Yeah, agree with you on that. Be nice if we saw it but i have the feeling it will be like ANF again but hey, we can always go back at watch season 1 again lol.
Lol can't see that happening. Even if they did bring more interaction back, it won't be the same as the way Season 1's interaction was where… more even the minor optional choices you ask someone could be important and not just a major choice. Those days are gone sadly
Yeah, agree with you on that. Be nice if we saw it but i have the feeling it will be like ANF again but hey, we can always go back at watch season 1 again lol.
* Characters like Christa, Lilly and Arvo will show up in Clementine's life again against all odds, especially with the "I got lucky" excuse… more for Christa
* Any characters that returned from before ANF will become bastardized versions of themselves
* AJ will be captured and become little more than a plot device yet again and we'll have very little interaction with him
* Clementine will die no matter what choices you make simply because it's the final installment in her story
* Choice descriptions will be misleading once again like "Tell Him Off"
I'll update if I think of more
Well good for you I could no longer give a shit about it, It was a chore, the monster hunter cliche was cheap (Like ToS Chronicles). Wow this game had great sales! Lets change everything people liked about it! I genuinely enjoyed the demo of Lightning Returns, not sure if I want to pull the trigger on it. Same with another game that I cannot pronounce but with similar mechanics.
Oh god FFXIII-2 was rushed. I know about a bunch of content that got cut from the game because of deadlines. And there's plenty of reused co… morentent from FFXIII dropped in there and padding. That and the time travel business never really got used that great in the plot.
Despite that, I still love the game and have replayed it a bunch of times just because I enjoy the character interactions and the dialogue choices/quick time events. But god it could've been so much better. This is why I get annoyed by games being rushed.
Im really not bothered if it is anymore. Season 3 ruined it for me and any other Telltale game in my opinion that is made in the future won't replicate how good TWD S1 was
That stupid baby returns and neuters Clementines inevitable badassery.
@ about.
Clementine is a feminist, social commentary, pandering BS.… more
Even MORE complicated quicktime events. Figure 8 with the mouse! Press Q and M really fast then connect the dots with the pointer!
I don't have any worries on concerns about TWDG anymore. With every new release in the franchise the quality lessens. I don't think it'll get any better
* Episode lengths being under the one hour and fourty five minutes mark.
* Ridiculously short development time. Early 2018, what is this,… more Call of Duty?
* Joan being at the ranch. Yawn. Cliche character.
* Continuation of bad writing and even more cuts and disorganization from the development team.
* I'd like to know what happened to at least one of these people, Lilly or Christa. This is the final season. I'm sick of new people instead of people who we can relate to. (I WOULD RATHER HAVE DLC TO EXPLAIN THEIR STORY, please do this?!)
* AJ being stretched out for the full five episodes because Joan or Clint, or some other random cliche villan decides 'Lol no, I'm going to stop you from taking this baby for X reason, and then you'll have to challenge me at the end of the season'.
* Me having to write another rant on this board.
Im really not bothered if it is anymore. Season 3 ruined it for me and any other Telltale game in my opinion that is made in the future won't replicate how good TWD S1 was
"She's a girl trying to survive in the zombie apocalypse "
I don't want my female characters to be male characters with female skin. Ellie from the Last of US cannot run a shotgun like Joel can, this is realism. Clementine was damned near a superhero in TNF. I don't want it to get any worse.
She's a girl t̶r̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶v̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶z̶o̶m̶b̶i̶e̶ ̶a̶p̶o̶c̶a̶l̶y̶p̶s̶e̶ ̶who blows the heads off of guys who pissed her off... at what age?
Clementine is a feminist, social commentary, pandering BS.
Why is that such a concern? She's a girl trying to survive in the zombie apocalypse, for crying out loud. You seem to be doing some projecting here.
My biggest fear as of late is that TFS will go the same route as A New Frontier and put a large focus on the action and drama without spending enough time characterizing the survivors themselves so we can have a reason to truly care about their plights. Season 1 did have action scenes but the season still have many hubs and slow paced scenes where we could get a deeper look on the characters' perceptions on the situations.
My 1st worry: too much fan service
It's the final season. While TTG should listen to the fans and their feedback, I do not want them to … moreforce the fan's laundry list of needs and wants into a story solely to satisfy the forums. I think this is the main reason they crammed Clem into ANF (I'm not against her inclusion, just at the execution and reasoning). I really just want a good story. Returning characters are not a must if they aren't really necessary to the plot. Episode lengths will supplement the quality and flow of the story, so I'm not worried about length. The theme doesn't have to be extremely dark if the plot and story require something else/ I just want a good story that makes me want to jump in this forum and start discussing and sharing. Make it flow, make it thorough, and make it passionately.
My 2nd worry: TTG going against their own plan
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We're talking about a teenager travelling alone in the zombie apocalypse.
Teenagers can get raped at any time right now. Put aside your offended sensibilities, it could make for a good scene.
I mean, an action scene. Similar to the Winston chase in season 2. I don't want to see Clem go hand-to-hand and be super badass or something. I want to see her outrun and use her wits to beat someone.
That Clementine will be (or at the very least implied to be in the danger of being) sexually assaulted because it's the zombie apocalypse (I… more don't actually expect Telltale to try to pull this off but you never know)
Uh, yeah, how about no?
That Joan will come back to terrorize Clementine once again since she's still salty about Richmond
I honestly don't think that'd be likely to happen anyway since they didn't even know each other and Clementine did little to nothing to directly hinder her.
We're talking about a teenager travelling alone in the zombie apocalypse.
Teenagers can get raped at any time right now. Put aside your offended sensibilities, it could make for a good scene.
If by good, you mean uncomfortable, protracted, and with the potential for the momentum grinding to a halt for some unpleasant melodramatic 'pheelz,' then "K'yeh, Das Goo!"
I don't want to see Clem go hand-to-hand
I do. Not necessarily with a rapist, mind you, but it's time for her to put up and get knocked down.
I want to see her outrun and use her wits to beat someone.
Ah, so like every one-on-one encounter she's had ever?
We're talking about a teenager travelling alone in the zombie apocalypse.
Teenagers can get raped at any time right now. Put aside your o… moreffended sensibilities, it could make for a good scene.
I mean, an action scene. Similar to the Winston chase in season 2. I don't want to see Clem go hand-to-hand and be super badass or something. I want to see her outrun and use her wits to beat someone.
I'm worried the game will suffer from the bad translations again like in Batman : The Enemy Within i don't really care because i know how to talk and to understand english pretty well, but that's not an excuse a lot of people have been complaining about this in Batman.
I hope Telltale is aware about this and let's hope this doesn't happen in The Final Season.
Oh and please DON'T make us search AJ for Five fucking episodes because the main bad guy took him or some shit seriously i don't want this.
I second this. I fully expect Clementine to be able to talk about her s2 ending and her motivation finding AJ. If we don't get ample opportunities to talk about it, I will be sorely disappointed and it will only strengthen the feeling that Telltale doesn't care about them at all.
We are extremely worried that Clementine will not mention any of the events from Season 2 endings (Jane/Kenny/Edith/Alone), in The Finale Season. @Alyssa_TTG
My main concerns are the fact that Clementine will spend the entire Season looking for AJ like another user said. I want Clementine to rescue AJ and have a major enemy for the season that will force Clementine to do whatever she can to stop them from coming after AJ.
Momentum? What momentum? We're talking about a whole season dedicated to Clem walking to a Ranch which isn't even supposed to be that far away.
What do you think they're going to do to fill time?
I'm getting real tired of everyone being okay with graphic violence, but pretending like sexuality barely exists at all.
More to the point, I'm worried this season is going to be really cheesy and lack real tension. There seems to be a push for strong independent black protagonists lately, and while walking dead precedes this, that doesnt mean they can't jump on the bandwagon.
Clem's trashy haircut already sends me warning signals.
For example: the Batman telltale game, they killed off Lucius and replaced him with his young hip grandaughter who sports a similar haircut.
We're talking about a teenager travelling alone in the zombie apocalypse.
Teenagers can get raped at any time right now. Put aside yo… moreur offended sensibilities, it could make for a good scene.
If by good, you mean uncomfortable, protracted, and with the potential for the momentum grinding to a halt for some unpleasant melodramatic 'pheelz,' then "K'yeh, Das Goo!"
I don't want to see Clem go hand-to-hand
I do. Not necessarily with a rapist, mind you, but it's time for her to put up and get knocked down.
I want to see her outrun and use her wits to beat someone.
Ah, so like every one-on-one encounter she's had ever?
One thing I liked about TWD1 was having to find clues in order to carry on, like you had to try find a way through the walkers in the sewage tunnel or trying to find out where the missing meds went.
Momentum? What momentum? We're talking about a whole season dedicated to Clem walking to a Ranch which isn't even supposed to be that far away.
Oh, it better not be.
What do you think they're going to do to fill time?
Commune with the spirits of people from her past for guidance?
I'm getting real tired of everyone being okay with graphic violence, but pretending like sexuality barely exists at all.
I don't know who said I'm okay with graphic violence, but sexuality is fine.
More to the point, I'm worried this season is going to be really cheesy and lack real tension.
So let's throw in an obligatory rape scare for our "strong" female protagonist!
There seems to be a push for strong independent black protagonists lately, and while walking dead precedes this, that doesnt mean they can't jump on the bandwagon.
Is there?
For example: the Batman telltale game, they killed off Lucius and replaced him with his young hip grandaughter who sports a similar haircut.
Momentum? What momentum? We're talking about a whole season dedicated to Clem walking to a Ranch which isn't even supposed to be that far aw… moreay.
What do you think they're going to do to fill time?
I'm getting real tired of everyone being okay with graphic violence, but pretending like sexuality barely exists at all.
More to the point, I'm worried this season is going to be really cheesy and lack real tension. There seems to be a push for strong independent black protagonists lately, and while walking dead precedes this, that doesnt mean they can't jump on the bandwagon.
Clem's trashy haircut already sends me warning signals.
For example: the Batman telltale game, they killed off Lucius and replaced him with his young hip grandaughter who sports a similar haircut.
So you think an attractive 13 year old would walk by herself in the post-zombie apocalypse wasteland, and the obvious threat shouldn't even be brought up?
How sanitized is that? Yeah, sometimes obligatory is obligatory for a reason. Season 2 never brought it up, and neither did 3. Season 1 had one line from Christa vaguely alluding to it, and that was optional, too.
And of course there was the Jolene thing which we argued over.
commune with spirits from her past
Sounds silly, but at the same time probably better than that will happen.
Momentum? What momentum? We're talking about a whole season dedicated to Clem walking to a Ranch which isn't even supposed to be that far aw… moreay.
Oh, it better not be.
What do you think they're going to do to fill time?
Commune with the spirits of people from her past for guidance?
I'm getting real tired of everyone being okay with graphic violence, but pretending like sexuality barely exists at all.
I don't know who said I'm okay with graphic violence, but sexuality is fine.
More to the point, I'm worried this season is going to be really cheesy and lack real tension.
So let's throw in an obligatory rape scare for our "strong" female protagonist!
There seems to be a push for strong independent black protagonists lately, and while walking dead precedes this, that doesnt mean they can't jump on the bandwagon.
Is there?
For example: the Batman telltale game, they killed off Luc… [view original content]
Not really a worry, but seeing how it's the last season, it be nice to bring some elements back from season 1, like longer episodes and a chance to be able to interact more with characters.
* Characters like Christa, Lilly and Arvo will show up in Clementine's life again against all odds, especially with the "I got lucky" excuse… more for Christa
* Any characters that returned from before ANF will become bastardized versions of themselves
* AJ will be captured and become little more than a plot device yet again and we'll have very little interaction with him
* Clementine will die no matter what choices you make simply because it's the final installment in her story
* Choice descriptions will be misleading once again like "Tell Him Off"
I'll update if I think of more
The designs of these new kids. They're... off-putting to put it bluntly. I'll trust that Telltale knows what they're doing but what was shown at PAX did make me a bit nervous not going to lie.
I know it's been said but short episodes. But I don't want TT to add padding to make the episodes longer. It should all be natural
What ANF did with episode 1 and 2 was awful and just there to save money and time.
Also repeating all the mistakes and problems with season 2 and 3. Each season after 1 just got worse and worse and worse. I just want them to go back to their roots. Let us interact with characters. Get to know them and relate or hate them. I'm litually just describing Season 1 so can we go back to that TT please for the final season.
So you think an attractive 13 year old would walk by herself in the post-zombie apocalypse wasteland, and the obvious threat shouldn't even be brought up?
Heh.
Preferably, not.
What's up with everyone wanting her to have a rape scene?
How sanitized is that? Yeah, sometimes obligatory is obligatory for a reason. Season 2 never brought it up, and neither did 3. Season 1 had one line from Christa vaguely alluding to it, and that was optional, too.
Ugh, I guess. Doesn't mean I have to put up with it, though.
And of course there was the Jolene thing which we argued over.
To be fair, that's in the backstory and with a character that focuses more on what was taken from her, awaiting opportunities to get any sort of revenge/schadenfreude, and being somewhat Crazy Awesome.
And, you know, not an edgy little mean tween who's supposed to be our main character.
Sounds silly, but at the same time probably better than that will happen.
Perhaps, but it'd be nice.
Not sure where it'd happen after the PAX Panel, though.
So you think an attractive 13 year old would walk by herself in the post-zombie apocalypse wasteland, and the obvious threat shouldn't even … morebe brought up?
How sanitized is that? Yeah, sometimes obligatory is obligatory for a reason. Season 2 never brought it up, and neither did 3. Season 1 had one line from Christa vaguely alluding to it, and that was optional, too.
And of course there was the Jolene thing which we argued over.
commune with spirits from her past
Sounds silly, but at the same time probably better than that will happen.
I know it's been said but short episodes. But I don't want TT to add padding to make the episodes longer. It should all be natural
What A… moreNF did with episode 1 and 2 was awful and just there to save money and time.
Also repeating all the mistakes and problems with season 2 and 3. Each season after 1 just got worse and worse and worse. I just want them to go back to their roots. Let us interact with characters. Get to know them and relate or hate them. I'm litually just describing Season 1 so can we go back to that TT please for the final season.
Ugh, I guess. Doesn't mean I have to put up with it, though.
Post-apocalyptic survival should imply you have to put up with everything.
Perhaps, but it'd be nice. Not sure where it'd happen after the PAX Panel, though.
Well assuming it's a dream and not literal ghosts, anytime really. Or they could do a quasi-dream-flashback, again. Back to the motor inn this time. (goddammit I know I always want to see more of the time spent there)
So you think an attractive 13 year old would walk by herself in the post-zombie apocalypse wasteland, and the obvious threat shouldn't even … morebe brought up?
Heh.
Preferably, not.
What's up with everyone wanting her to have a rape scene?
How sanitized is that? Yeah, sometimes obligatory is obligatory for a reason. Season 2 never brought it up, and neither did 3. Season 1 had one line from Christa vaguely alluding to it, and that was optional, too.
Ugh, I guess. Doesn't mean I have to put up with it, though.
And of course there was the Jolene thing which we argued over.
To be fair, that's in the backstory and with a character that focuses more on what was taken from her, awaiting opportunities to get any sort of revenge/schadenfreude, and being somewhat Crazy Awesome.
And, you know, not an edgy little mean tween who's supposed to be our main character.
Sounds silly, but at the same time probably b… [view original content]
Not really a worry, but seeing how it's the last season, it be nice to bring some elements back from season 1, like longer episodes and a chance to be able to interact more with characters.
That it will be “good v. bad” and not a more controversial development. That it will end on a “you decide what happened after that”. And that (if they decide to make it a choice if Clem dies) you have to be a bad person, if you want Clem to live, just so they make you have Clem die.
Preferably, not.
I don't believe you.
Ugh, I guess. Doesn't mean I have to put up with it, though.
Post-apocalyptic s… moreurvival should imply you have to put up with everything.
Perhaps, but it'd be nice. Not sure where it'd happen after the PAX Panel, though.
Well assuming it's a dream and not literal ghosts, anytime really. Or they could do a quasi-dream-flashback, again. Back to the motor inn this time. (goddammit I know I always want to see more of the time spent there)
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Yeah, agree with you on that. Be nice if we saw it but i have the feeling it will be like ANF again but hey, we can always go back at watch season 1 again lol.
Definitely. Despite how i feel about Telltale these days, i'll always hold a special place in my heart for Season 1. Always...
I think Clementine should die but not just because it's the final installment.
I'd be fine with that as well if it's done well enough.
Well good for you I could no longer give a shit about it, It was a chore, the monster hunter cliche was cheap (Like ToS Chronicles). Wow this game had great sales! Lets change everything people liked about it! I genuinely enjoyed the demo of Lightning Returns, not sure if I want to pull the trigger on it. Same with another game that I cannot pronounce but with similar mechanics.
My biggest fear is the "final" season being the actual end of TWD franchise
Im really not bothered if it is anymore. Season 3 ruined it for me and any other Telltale game in my opinion that is made in the future won't replicate how good TWD S1 was
Excessively outraged haters awaking the deepest hell and the giant shitstorm that would doom us all.
I never really liked the art style A New Frontier had, I hope it somehow returns to the original S1 & S2 art style.
You called me?
Why is that such a concern? She's a girl trying to survive in the zombie apocalypse, for crying out loud. You seem to be doing some projecting here.
I don't have any worries on concerns about TWDG anymore. With every new release in the franchise the quality lessens. I don't think it'll get any better
NUMBER SIX
Sad but true. Now that I think about it, if TT keeps it up it'll start to die out. So I'd rather just play this season finale and have good memories.
Same
Lack of character development.
Lack of hubs.
Short episodes.
A female dying to generate manpain and "motivate" her boyfriend/husband aka another Sarita death.
Interesting ideas being scrapped and rewritten in the last minute.
The most genuine character turning out a traitor.
Locations like Prescott and Wellington being wasted - destroyed, unexplored.
One character taking the spotlight from the entire cast.
"She's a girl trying to survive in the zombie apocalypse "
I don't want my female characters to be male characters with female skin. Ellie from the Last of US cannot run a shotgun like Joel can, this is realism. Clementine was damned near a superhero in TNF. I don't want it to get any worse.
She's a girl t̶r̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶v̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶z̶o̶m̶b̶i̶e̶ ̶a̶p̶o̶c̶a̶l̶y̶p̶s̶e̶ ̶who blows the heads off of guys who pissed her off... at what age?
Just compile a list based on what many have stated about Season 1, 2, 400 Days, ANF, Michonne and anything related to TWD.
For me, I rather not have any in-universe cross-overs (e.g., comic, TV series). TWD is expansive, and this provides the potential for more stories.
I actually called Ghostbusters.
My biggest fear as of late is that TFS will go the same route as A New Frontier and put a large focus on the action and drama without spending enough time characterizing the survivors themselves so we can have a reason to truly care about their plights. Season 1 did have action scenes but the season still have many hubs and slow paced scenes where we could get a deeper look on the characters' perceptions on the situations.
We're talking about a teenager travelling alone in the zombie apocalypse.
Teenagers can get raped at any time right now. Put aside your offended sensibilities, it could make for a good scene.
I mean, an action scene. Similar to the Winston chase in season 2. I don't want to see Clem go hand-to-hand and be super badass or something. I want to see her outrun and use her wits to beat someone.
If by good, you mean uncomfortable, protracted, and with the potential for the momentum grinding to a halt for some unpleasant melodramatic 'pheelz,' then "K'yeh, Das Goo!"
I do. Not necessarily with a rapist, mind you, but it's time for her to put up and get knocked down.
Ah, so like every one-on-one encounter she's had ever?
I'm worried the game will suffer from the bad translations again like in Batman : The Enemy Within i don't really care because i know how to talk and to understand english pretty well, but that's not an excuse a lot of people have been complaining about this in Batman.
I hope Telltale is aware about this and let's hope this doesn't happen in The Final Season.
Oh and please DON'T make us search AJ for Five fucking episodes because the main bad guy took him or some shit seriously i don't want this.
I second this. I fully expect Clementine to be able to talk about her s2 ending and her motivation finding AJ. If we don't get ample opportunities to talk about it, I will be sorely disappointed and it will only strengthen the feeling that Telltale doesn't care about them at all.
My main concerns are the fact that Clementine will spend the entire Season looking for AJ like another user said. I want Clementine to rescue AJ and have a major enemy for the season that will force Clementine to do whatever she can to stop them from coming after AJ.
Momentum? What momentum? We're talking about a whole season dedicated to Clem walking to a Ranch which isn't even supposed to be that far away.
What do you think they're going to do to fill time?
I'm getting real tired of everyone being okay with graphic violence, but pretending like sexuality barely exists at all.
More to the point, I'm worried this season is going to be really cheesy and lack real tension. There seems to be a push for strong independent black protagonists lately, and while walking dead precedes this, that doesnt mean they can't jump on the bandwagon.
Clem's trashy haircut already sends me warning signals.
For example: the Batman telltale game, they killed off Lucius and replaced him with his young hip grandaughter who sports a similar haircut.
One thing I liked about TWD1 was having to find clues in order to carry on, like you had to try find a way through the walkers in the sewage tunnel or trying to find out where the missing meds went.
Oh, it better not be.
Commune with the spirits of people from her past for guidance?
I don't know who said I'm okay with graphic violence, but sexuality is fine.
So let's throw in an obligatory rape scare for our "strong" female protagonist!
Is there?
Doh, EH! Fuckin SPOILERS!
So you think an attractive 13 year old would walk by herself in the post-zombie apocalypse wasteland, and the obvious threat shouldn't even be brought up?
How sanitized is that? Yeah, sometimes obligatory is obligatory for a reason. Season 2 never brought it up, and neither did 3. Season 1 had one line from Christa vaguely alluding to it, and that was optional, too.
And of course there was the Jolene thing which we argued over.
Sounds silly, but at the same time probably better than that will happen.
Yeah I’d like to see longer chapters considering it is the final season
The tell him off thing in season 3 pissed me off when I did it
The designs of these new kids. They're... off-putting to put it bluntly. I'll trust that Telltale knows what they're doing but what was shown at PAX did make me a bit nervous not going to lie.
I know it's been said but short episodes. But I don't want TT to add padding to make the episodes longer. It should all be natural
What ANF did with episode 1 and 2 was awful and just there to save money and time.
Also repeating all the mistakes and problems with season 2 and 3. Each season after 1 just got worse and worse and worse. I just want them to go back to their roots. Let us interact with characters. Get to know them and relate or hate them. I'm litually just describing Season 1 so can we go back to that TT please for the final season.
Heh.
Preferably, not.
What's up with everyone wanting her to have a rape scene?
Ugh, I guess. Doesn't mean I have to put up with it, though.
To be fair, that's in the backstory and with a character that focuses more on what was taken from her, awaiting opportunities to get any sort of revenge/schadenfreude, and being somewhat Crazy Awesome.
And, you know, not an edgy little mean tween who's supposed to be our main character.
Perhaps, but it'd be nice.
Not sure where it'd happen after the PAX Panel, though.
Nice name and profile pic combo there, Jack.
Gabe in the 2nd junkyard area, anyone?
Or relate AND hate them.
I don't believe you.
Post-apocalyptic survival should imply you have to put up with everything.
Well assuming it's a dream and not literal ghosts, anytime really. Or they could do a quasi-dream-flashback, again. Back to the motor inn this time. (goddammit I know I always want to see more of the time spent there)
Yes I agree, I would love for the episodes to be longer like they were in season 1.
That it will be “good v. bad” and not a more controversial development. That it will end on a “you decide what happened after that”. And that (if they decide to make it a choice if Clem dies) you have to be a bad person, if you want Clem to live, just so they make you have Clem die.
Wow, the grammar in that exchange is a bit unclear.
There are ways to get around having to do so.
Fair enough.
I'd prefer being on the road in Virginia, personally