It’s a 50/50 chance of it happening. Don’t forget Kirkman himself said she wasn’t going to be in the comics or TV show. Well, he may have been pulling our leg so we wouldn’t suspect anything.
I think it all comes down to how The Final Season ends and the fans reaction towards it.
It’s a 50/50 chance of it happening. Don’t forget Kirkman himself said she wasn’t going to be in the comics or TV show. Well, he may have be… moreen pulling our leg so we wouldn’t suspect anything.
I think it all comes down to how The Final Season ends and the fans reaction towards it.
I think it was a few months ago at San Diego Comic Con during one of his panels. A fan asked him and he said “No, but you could write fan fiction about it.”
I wouldn’t take Kirkman seriously because he’s joked about a few things before. He also didn’t give us a reason as to why Clem won’t be in the comics. That’s why I think he may have been pulling our leg.
Kirkman said she wont get involved with comics but you never know. However, he is usually the man of his word, he promised that no one has the guarantee of surviving and now we saw some examples about it. There is a fact that I will highly appreciate if she appears.
While I like the idea of her appearing in the comic, I also have to ask myself what would be the point of it.
Is there a role she could fill in the The Walking Dead comic? I really don't think there is. She'd be in the comic to be a background character and would likely be killed off in order to drum up some hype "Kirkman kills beloved video game character" style.
Personally I'd rather Clem's story continue in novel form. If there was a comic with her in then set it in the time jumps that occur in the games. I'd love to see how they came across Mark or how she and Christa coped after Omid's death.
The only character who 'counts' in the main comic is Rick, Clem deserves better than being a shadow in his presence.
I could swear there was a letter hacks about Clementine potentially coming into the comic, dated before New Frontier was officially teased as such but after S2. I'm not seeing it on Google, but I know there was a discussion we had about it. I won't be able to find it since we don't have the search function anymore and I can't call on anyone to find it for me. I was hesitant to bring it up here, though, because of a user.
I am vehemently against the idea of Clem being in any other medium besides the video games for so many reasons:
She has determinant markings as of ANF
She has a personality determined largely by the player (ie. "MY" Clementine)
Telltale said they want to give Clem a suiting farewell and not drag out her character. What better way to destroy her character than giving a guy who hasn't written for the video games complete liberty with her character, AFTER her final season?
What better way to destroy her character than giving a guy who hasn't written for the video games complete liberty with her character, AFTER her final season?
I am vehemently against the idea of Clem being in any other medium besides the video games for so many reasons:
* She has determinant m… morearkings as of ANF
* She has a personality determined largely by the player (ie. "MY" Clementine)
* Telltale said they want to give Clem a suiting farewell and not drag out her character. What better way to destroy her character than giving a guy who hasn't written for the video games complete liberty with her character, AFTER her final season?
Like come on, guys. We really don't want this.
The lost finger can be covered up with a glove (ditto the tattoo) or prosthetic. The facial scars could have healed or (also applicable to the tattoo) be covered in make-up. Also, the determinant parts of her could be off-panel or zoomed out for the entirety of her appearance in the comic, more believably so if she only shows up for, like, a page. Her hair could also be covering the face scars.
Eh, her actions this season have been determinant, but her personality is pretty solid, at least in the present day. I don't think there'd be any conflict with that, unless TFS miraculously proves that wrong.
While it's entirely possible that Kirkman and Co. can ruin Clem (further?) and they have probably done so before with other characters, who knows how he/Skybound/Telltale will treat the character going forward. She may have been doomed from the get-go, or she could be on her way to her saving grace or something, idk.
I am vehemently against the idea of Clem being in any other medium besides the video games for so many reasons:
* She has determinant m… morearkings as of ANF
* She has a personality determined largely by the player (ie. "MY" Clementine)
* Telltale said they want to give Clem a suiting farewell and not drag out her character. What better way to destroy her character than giving a guy who hasn't written for the video games complete liberty with her character, AFTER her final season?
Like come on, guys. We really don't want this.
The only way I can see it happening is by Kirkman co-writing The Final Season so he can tailor Clementine into the comics this way, but the chances of that are slim. There would be huge changes from the game however, the determinant scars/injuries from ANF have to be labelled off as non-canon for the comics.
While I like the idea of her appearing in the comic, I also have to ask myself what would be the point of it.
Is there a role she could f… moreill in the The Walking Dead comic? I really don't think there is. She'd be in the comic to be a background character and would likely be killed off in order to drum up some hype "Kirkman kills beloved video game character" style.
Personally I'd rather Clem's story continue in novel form. If there was a comic with her in then set it in the time jumps that occur in the games. I'd love to see how they came across Mark or how she and Christa coped after Omid's death.
The only character who 'counts' in the main comic is Rick, Clem deserves better than being a shadow in his presence.
I really think this is a bad idea because if you think about it everyone has they're own Clem and knows what's true to their Clem, bringing her into the comics means there's only one and true Clem and I don't like the thought of it, I'll feel like none of my choicest would matter.
Please Robert Kirkman don't bring Clem into the comics just to make money,
I have my own Clem like many others do please don't rob us of that.
I'm not fully for clem being in a comic written by kirkman but yall saying it wouldnt work because of the whole "my clem" thing doesnt make sense. You very well know your choices didnt shape her and shes the same clem as everyone else's lol, except maybe for a scratch on her forehead or a mark on her hand. Doesnt change hardly anything.
The Kenny scar would likely not fade away completely (nor would I want it to), using gloves to ignore the other markings would be insulting, basically everything you suggested is why I wouldn't want this to happen. Let's just retcon the whole damn character, amirite?
People didn't liks the fact that Clem had a one dimensional personality in ANF. We should hope for more differentiation in the final season, and hope to never have her consolidated as a flat gimmicky character again.
Have you been reading the comics? They've been fairly mediocre lately. I would not trust them with Clem, AT ALL.
* The lost finger can be covered up with a glove (ditto the tattoo) or prosthetic. The facial scars could have healed or (also applicable to… more the tattoo) be covered in make-up. Also, the determinant parts of her could be off-panel or zoomed out for the entirety of her appearance in the comic, more believably so if she only shows up for, like, a page. Her hair could also be covering the face scars.
* Eh, her actions this season have been determinant, but her personality is pretty solid, at least in the present day. I don't think there'd be any conflict with that, unless TFS miraculously proves that wrong.
* While it's entirely possible that Kirkman and Co. can ruin Clem (further?) and they have probably done so before with other characters, who knows how he/Skybound/Telltale will treat the character going forward. She may have been doomed from the get-go, or she could be on her way to her saving grace or something, idk.
I wouldn't want them to retcon Clementine (but they could, like they did with Lilly), I'm just saying that if they wanted to put her in the comics without getting rid of her determinant markings, they'd find a way.
Agreed
No, but I've heard some of what's going on if that counts for anything. TBH, I don't trust anyone with Clem at this point. But it's The Walking Dead--anything can happen, good or bad.
Additionally, as I was coming here, I thought, "hmm, maybe they could have digital comics tailored to determinant choices and added into the episodes." Kill two birds with one stone in a neat way without having to relegate Clem to a physical comic appearance that would water down our choices. (Or they could put out variant issues/covers.)
* The Kenny scar would likely not fade away completely (nor would I want it to), using gloves to ignore the other markings would be insultin… moreg, basically everything you suggested is why I wouldn't want this to happen. Let's just retcon the whole damn character, amirite?
* People didn't liks the fact that Clem had a one dimensional personality in ANF. We should hope for more differentiation in the final season, and hope to never have her consolidated as a flat gimmicky character again.
* Have you been reading the comics? They've been fairly mediocre lately. I would not trust them with Clem, AT ALL.
While I like the idea of her appearing in the comic, I also have to ask myself what would be the point of it.
Is there a role she could f… moreill in the The Walking Dead comic? I really don't think there is. She'd be in the comic to be a background character and would likely be killed off in order to drum up some hype "Kirkman kills beloved video game character" style.
Personally I'd rather Clem's story continue in novel form. If there was a comic with her in then set it in the time jumps that occur in the games. I'd love to see how they came across Mark or how she and Christa coped after Omid's death.
The only character who 'counts' in the main comic is Rick, Clem deserves better than being a shadow in his presence.
I am vehemently against the idea of Clem being in any other medium besides the video games for so many reasons:
* She has determinant m… morearkings as of ANF
* She has a personality determined largely by the player (ie. "MY" Clementine)
* Telltale said they want to give Clem a suiting farewell and not drag out her character. What better way to destroy her character than giving a guy who hasn't written for the video games complete liberty with her character, AFTER her final season?
Like come on, guys. We really don't want this.
I'm not fully for clem being in a comic written by kirkman but yall saying it wouldnt work because of the whole "my clem" thing doesnt make … moresense. You very well know your choices didnt shape her and shes the same clem as everyone else's lol, except maybe for a scratch on her forehead or a mark on her hand. Doesnt change hardly anything.
We really don't want this.
Speak for yourself buddy. I don't want Clem's story to end. I want The Adventures of Clementine to last forever.
* We vote on past choices.
* We vote on past choices.
* Kirkman is king.
They still have that? Anyway, I think it'd be cool. But maybe not for the comics. I'm thinking of endless possibilities for her character. Like maybe when their done with TFS, I'll be able to make sense of where I'm headed. I think it's a show, but idk.
I'm torn if I would like to see her not. On the one hand, it would be cool to see her more even if she becomes a side character. On the other hand, it makes her story have a specific cannon. Even if they don't refer to her background, what scar (or tattoo) she has would at least show what the cannon Season 2 ending choice was.
If TT actually handles the ending in a more competent way than they handled ANF and Batman, I'll probably agree with this. Otherwise, I'd be really interested in seeing how the comics handle her.
If TT actually handles the ending in a more competent way than they handled ANF and Batman, I'll probably agree with this. Otherwise, I'd be really interested in seeing how the comics handle her.
This. My Clem went completely out the window when they tried to hand over the reigns to Xavier lol. Maybe seeing her from another perspective would have worked if she wasn't the same edgelord regardless of how you played, but the new writers have already rolled everyone's Clem into the character they wanted.
I'm not sure why people are so up in arms about a new writer who's never worked on the games before deciding her character, it literally just happened with some 20 or so new writers.
I'm not fully for clem being in a comic written by kirkman but yall saying it wouldnt work because of the whole "my clem" thing doesnt make … moresense. You very well know your choices didnt shape her and shes the same clem as everyone else's lol, except maybe for a scratch on her forehead or a mark on her hand. Doesnt change hardly anything.
I'm not fully for clem being in a comic written by kirkman but yall saying it wouldnt work because of the whole "my clem" thing doesnt make … moresense. You very well know your choices didnt shape her and shes the same clem as everyone else's lol, except maybe for a scratch on her forehead or a mark on her hand. Doesnt change hardly anything.
Getting clem to the comics would be worse than her anf charecter because that would mean she will be in the fucking show in the future...you don't want clem in that show don't u now...
Getting clem to the comics would be worse than her anf charecter because that would mean she will be in the fucking show in the future...you don't want clem in that show don't u now...
I agree with everything you said besides your 2nd point because ANF proved that your choices don’t define her personality for shit.
The only way they could bring her in without breaking the games determinant canon would be to give her all of the phiscal determinant features and just say that she got them off screen/page which would be stupid but I think that’s really the only way they could do it.
I am vehemently against the idea of Clem being in any other medium besides the video games for so many reasons:
* She has determinant m… morearkings as of ANF
* She has a personality determined largely by the player (ie. "MY" Clementine)
* Telltale said they want to give Clem a suiting farewell and not drag out her character. What better way to destroy her character than giving a guy who hasn't written for the video games complete liberty with her character, AFTER her final season?
Like come on, guys. We really don't want this.
It's more to do with the handling of some of the characters, as a long time Batman fan some of the directions they've went/are going with just left me feeling a bit "wut?"
It's more to do with the handling of some of the characters, as a long time Batman fan some of the directions they've went/are going with just left me feeling a bit "wut?"
At worst, it butchers characters that have been established in the lore for over half a century. At best, it just flips some roles around for shock factor. I don't really want to spoil specific twists for anyone who's interested but hasn't tried it, but I felt the entire basis of the first seasons story was horrid, and aside from the terrible reveal using an existing character instead of just introducing a new one, the twist did nothing but diminish Wayne/Batman as a character by throwing out a key factor in his origin for shock value. Season 2 though. Even one of the best graphic novels left doubt in this particular characters origins. I don't know why anyone thought it would be a good idea to prioritize a character introduced in TAS and reduce one of the oldest, most celebrated characters in comics to the role she fullfilled when she was introduced in a 90s cartoon.
Nolan put out 3 of the greatest comic book movies without resorting to cheap twists, keeping true to just about every notable character he featured. Rocksteady did the same throughout the Arkham series. Taking extreme liberties with the long standing creations of another writer is just in poor taste.
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It’s a 50/50 chance of it happening. Don’t forget Kirkman himself said she wasn’t going to be in the comics or TV show. Well, he may have been pulling our leg so we wouldn’t suspect anything.
I think it all comes down to how The Final Season ends and the fans reaction towards it.
When did he say she wouldn't be in the comics?
I think it was a few months ago at San Diego Comic Con during one of his panels. A fan asked him and he said “No, but you could write fan fiction about it.”
I wouldn’t take Kirkman seriously because he’s joked about a few things before. He also didn’t give us a reason as to why Clem won’t be in the comics. That’s why I think he may have been pulling our leg.
Kirkman said she wont get involved with comics but you never know. However, he is usually the man of his word, he promised that no one has the guarantee of surviving and now we saw some examples about it. There is a fact that I will highly appreciate if she appears.
AJ dies, Clementine moves on and gets adopted by comics.
While I like the idea of her appearing in the comic, I also have to ask myself what would be the point of it.
Is there a role she could fill in the The Walking Dead comic? I really don't think there is. She'd be in the comic to be a background character and would likely be killed off in order to drum up some hype "Kirkman kills beloved video game character" style.
Personally I'd rather Clem's story continue in novel form. If there was a comic with her in then set it in the time jumps that occur in the games. I'd love to see how they came across Mark or how she and Christa coped after Omid's death.
The only character who 'counts' in the main comic is Rick, Clem deserves better than being a shadow in his presence.
That would completely defeat the purpose of ending her story in the first place. Plus I just really hate the idea.
Clem would be a good addition to Alexandria in my opinion, or even an adversary depending on where S4 goes.
I could swear there was a letter hacks about Clementine potentially coming into the comic, dated before New Frontier was officially teased as such but after S2. I'm not seeing it on Google, but I know there was a discussion we had about it. I won't be able to find it since we don't have the search function anymore and I can't call on anyone to find it for me. I was hesitant to bring it up here, though, because of a user.
I am vehemently against the idea of Clem being in any other medium besides the video games for so many reasons:
Like come on, guys. We really don't want this.
Agreeable.
Oh god please no. Anyone who has read issue 171 knows better than to hand anything over for Kirkman to handle.
The only way I can see it happening is by Kirkman co-writing The Final Season so he can tailor Clementine into the comics this way, but the chances of that are slim. There would be huge changes from the game however, the determinant scars/injuries from ANF have to be labelled off as non-canon for the comics.
I completely agree
I really think this is a bad idea because if you think about it everyone has they're own Clem and knows what's true to their Clem, bringing her into the comics means there's only one and true Clem and I don't like the thought of it, I'll feel like none of my choicest would matter.
Please Robert Kirkman don't bring Clem into the comics just to make money,
I have my own Clem like many others do please don't rob us of that.
I'm not fully for clem being in a comic written by kirkman but yall saying it wouldnt work because of the whole "my clem" thing doesnt make sense. You very well know your choices didnt shape her and shes the same clem as everyone else's lol, except maybe for a scratch on her forehead or a mark on her hand. Doesnt change hardly anything.
Additionally, as I was coming here, I thought, "hmm, maybe they could have digital comics tailored to determinant choices and added into the episodes." Kill two birds with one stone in a neat way without having to relegate Clem to a physical comic appearance that would water down our choices. (Or they could put out variant issues/covers.)
She could be Sophia's bff. Give Sophia an arc and some development, introduce her to Clem, and presto... two badasses.
Speak for yourself buddy. I don't want Clem's story to end. I want The Adventures of Clementine to last forever.
Adversary? Really?
But... MyClem's cooler than yours.
I could not disagree more, sounds like something that a Pokemon show would do.
They still have that? Anyway, I think it'd be cool. But maybe not for the comics. I'm thinking of endless possibilities for her character. Like maybe when their done with TFS, I'll be able to make sense of where I'm headed. I think it's a show, but idk.
Lol I've read a few war books, can you tell?
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I'm torn if I would like to see her not. On the one hand, it would be cool to see her more even if she becomes a side character. On the other hand, it makes her story have a specific cannon. Even if they don't refer to her background, what scar (or tattoo) she has would at least show what the cannon Season 2 ending choice was.
If TT actually handles the ending in a more competent way than they handled ANF and Batman, I'll probably agree with this. Otherwise, I'd be really interested in seeing how the comics handle her.
Didn't like the Batman ending? Or do just generally dislike cliffhangers?
This. My Clem went completely out the window when they tried to hand over the reigns to Xavier lol. Maybe seeing her from another perspective would have worked if she wasn't the same edgelord regardless of how you played, but the new writers have already rolled everyone's Clem into the character they wanted.
I'm not sure why people are so up in arms about a new writer who's never worked on the games before deciding her character, it literally just happened with some 20 or so new writers.
There is a problem that she can lose her finger and Kirkman can't decide whether to let her have the finger or lose it.
Getting clem to the comics would be worse than her anf charecter because that would mean she will be in the fucking show in the future...you don't want clem in that show don't u now...
Not all characters there are in the comics are also in the show.
Would AMC miss the opportunity to include clementine in their series? I don't think so
As bad as the comics have been lately Clementine should stay far away after season 4.
For the love of god it’s not gonna happen it’s impossible. ANF added Clementine’s determinant physical features.
I agree with everything you said besides your 2nd point because ANF proved that your choices don’t define her personality for shit.
The only way they could bring her in without breaking the games determinant canon would be to give her all of the phiscal determinant features and just say that she got them off screen/page which would be stupid but I think that’s really the only way they could do it.
It's more to do with the handling of some of the characters, as a long time Batman fan some of the directions they've went/are going with just left me feeling a bit "wut?"
Personally I felt Telltale's unique take on all the characters and the story was the best part.
At worst, it butchers characters that have been established in the lore for over half a century. At best, it just flips some roles around for shock factor. I don't really want to spoil specific twists for anyone who's interested but hasn't tried it, but I felt the entire basis of the first seasons story was horrid, and aside from the terrible reveal using an existing character instead of just introducing a new one, the twist did nothing but diminish Wayne/Batman as a character by throwing out a key factor in his origin for shock value. Season 2 though. Even one of the best graphic novels left doubt in this particular characters origins. I don't know why anyone thought it would be a good idea to prioritize a character introduced in TAS and reduce one of the oldest, most celebrated characters in comics to the role she fullfilled when she was introduced in a 90s cartoon.
Nolan put out 3 of the greatest comic book movies without resorting to cheap twists, keeping true to just about every notable character he featured. Rocksteady did the same throughout the Arkham series. Taking extreme liberties with the long standing creations of another writer is just in poor taste.