[Ride with Leo to Castamere] It would be good for her if she just stops sulking in her tent, and I want to see the interactions between Leonard and the Reynes, since while he despises most nobility, he's technically still one of them.
That Aklen definitely doesn't look Westerosi to me, and certainly not someone to get on their bad side.
[Demand an answer from Alan] He's not making himself any favors by refusing to say were he got the money, so is better to be sure he's not doing some shady deals.
Since apparently we have to tag people so they know this is a reply to them, here is my reply to the post made by @Edinosaur23 right above mine.
I want to see the interactions between Leonard and the Reynes, since while he despises most nobility, he's technically still one of them.
Aye, then this is the choice to pick. Leonard and the Reynes will have a very interesting relationship, because of how heavily different they are. His views are bound to clash with those of traditional views of nobility and even with more moderate and reasonable nobles, which I'd say Mileena Reyne counts as, he won't quite get along.
That Aklen definitely doesn't look Westerosi to me, and certainly not someone to get on their bad side.
Here I can confirm, Aklen is Westerosi, yet still no one anyone should count to their enemies. He had some influence from outside Westeros for sure, habits and visual elements he picked up during his long service in various sellsword groups, yet is actually a native of the Rock.
Also, ugh, this apparently just started a new site. To everyone reading this and being confused where the new part is located, look at the last post of page 276. More precisely, look at this post here:
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] I figure it's better for Sadie to have something to do. And I feel like going to Castamere would be more interesting for the readers as well I did like Sadie's training with Edward, perhaps there is still hope for making her a warrior again.
[Demand an answer from Alan] I really want to know what this weasel has been up to, and there shouldn't be a reason for him to keep secrets from Richard. Only thing I'm a bit worried about is Mathea's presence in this situation - Alan already slipped that Kersea is a killer, he might slip something more (like Leonard's presence for example) if we start arguing with him. That said, Mathea is definitely trustworthy, so it's not that big of a deal if she learns something.
Alright then, my internet is working again! Thank you Mathea for giving the others this update. The new forum style, well, it's still shitty… more as hell and I hope there will eventually be a less confusing and bland design. Until then, I hope you all manage to see this new part. Next time I close the voting, I will also have a little something for you, to inform you on how I plan on keeping the main post present even when it is now no longer at the top of the thread.
Sadie
The sword felt unusually heavy in her hand, even if her left arm was used to lift the much heavier weight of a shield. It was an odd feeling, striking with her left, while there was the painful absence of any sensation in her right. That being said this was still better than the feeling she had in the morning, the pain that shouldn't have been there.
It wasn't the first time she held a sword with her left hand and some things were familiar still, even if it was all w… [view original content]
I did like Sadie's training with Edward, perhaps there is still hope for making her a warrior again.
Hm, it very much depends on herself. Edward brought up two people (submitted characters by the way, super sneaky, ominous foreshadowiiiing) who managed to become accomplished fighters despite their disabilities, yet on the other hand you got someone like Jaime Lannister, who instead took on a larger role, becoming more a leader than a fighter. It is not hopeless with her, but she remains ambiguous if it is even worth trying, because this is going to be one hell of a long road to recovery.
I really want to know what this weasel has been up to, and there shouldn't be a reason for him to keep secrets from Richard. Only thing I'm a bit worried about is Mathea's presence in this situation - Alan already slipped that Kersea is a killer, he might slip something more (like Leonard's presence for example) if we start arguing with him. That said, Mathea is definitely trustworthy, so it's not that big of a deal if she learns something.
It's true Alan might slip more than just Kersea's former profession, even if he has a tiny bit more respect for Leonard (mostly because Leonard, unlike Kersea, is in the physical position to beat the crap out of him if he looks at him the wrong way). Saying this towards Mathea is a relatively low risk, it is highly unlikely she is running to Mullendore next scene to tell him about all this. However, Richard is mainly concerned that such knowledge could put her at risk in the end, that she could accidentally reveal something or stuff like that.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] I figure it's better for Sadie to have something to do. And I feel like going to Castamere would be more intere… moresting for the readers as well I did like Sadie's training with Edward, perhaps there is still hope for making her a warrior again.
[Demand an answer from Alan] I really want to know what this weasel has been up to, and there shouldn't be a reason for him to keep secrets from Richard. Only thing I'm a bit worried about is Mathea's presence in this situation - Alan already slipped that Kersea is a killer, he might slip something more (like Leonard's presence for example) if we start arguing with him. That said, Mathea is definitely trustworthy, so it's not that big of a deal if she learns something.
Alright then, my internet is working again! Thank you Mathea for giving the others this update. The new forum style, well, it's still shitty… more as hell and I hope there will eventually be a less confusing and bland design. Until then, I hope you all manage to see this new part. Next time I close the voting, I will also have a little something for you, to inform you on how I plan on keeping the main post present even when it is now no longer at the top of the thread.
Sadie
The sword felt unusually heavy in her hand, even if her left arm was used to lift the much heavier weight of a shield. It was an odd feeling, striking with her left, while there was the painful absence of any sensation in her right. That being said this was still better than the feeling she had in the morning, the pain that shouldn't have been there.
It wasn't the first time she held a sword with her left hand and some things were familiar still, even if it was all w… [view original content]
[Don't demand an answer]
The fact that the new page is starting from one post, instead of being filled up with old post that are slowly replaced is actually the most annoying thing for me out of all annoying things on the new forum.
What the Hell!!, I can't enter the messages in the forums.
Yeah, that seems to be an issue that came up just after I sent you the reply to your latest PM. Around the same time, Telltale brought back two other features we had in the old forums, namely like counts (now measured by that little heart between the flag and reply button) and reply notifications. I guess someone forgot to check something there, surely not a big thing to fix. I know the mods are aware of that problem and have told the staff about it and for once, I am positive the fix will come soon.
@Edinosaur23
What the Hell!!, I can't enter the messages in the forums.
Yeah, that seems to be an issue that came up just afte… morer I sent you the reply to your latest PM. Around the same time, Telltale brought back two other features we had in the old forums, namely like counts (now measured by that little heart between the flag and reply button) and reply notifications. I guess someone forgot to check something there, surely not a big thing to fix. I know the mods are aware of that problem and have told the staff about it and for once, I am positive the fix will come soon.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] I think it's important for Sadie to get active as much as possible. I know she is technically handicapped but she shouldn't let it drag her down or change her. She may be in a bad place emotionally and not as great a fighter but I have hope that she can improve if she keeps at it.
[Don't demand an answer] Mathea is clearly uncomfortable so let's not cause a scene. It's probably better to ask Alan when he gets sober anyway.
Man, lately when Sadie's hand is mentioned it reminds me that Dan is dead! I miss him.
On the bright side, this part gave me a lot of hope for Sadie. I'm now confident that she can improve. Like Edward, I believe she did a lot better than expected. She can do this!
Mathea brings up a good point. It might be safer to bring Kersea somewhere else.
Kersea's mention of Clayton got me thinking. Do we know for certain that he's dead or is itg just presumed?
Just so you know, we can get reply notifications now. Check your preferences if you haven't already.
Alright then, my internet is working again! Thank you Mathea for giving the others this update. The new forum style, well, it's still shitty… more as hell and I hope there will eventually be a less confusing and bland design. Until then, I hope you all manage to see this new part. Next time I close the voting, I will also have a little something for you, to inform you on how I plan on keeping the main post present even when it is now no longer at the top of the thread.
Sadie
The sword felt unusually heavy in her hand, even if her left arm was used to lift the much heavier weight of a shield. It was an odd feeling, striking with her left, while there was the painful absence of any sensation in her right. That being said this was still better than the feeling she had in the morning, the pain that shouldn't have been there.
It wasn't the first time she held a sword with her left hand and some things were familiar still, even if it was all w… [view original content]
Man, lately when Sadie's hand is mentioned it reminds me that Dan is dead! I miss him.
And she surely misses him as well, probably even more than her hand, even if that particular loss affects her more in her day to day life. Dan has been one of a kind, her best friend by far and losing him, she hasn't even fully realized just how deeply this has hit her.
On the bright side, this part gave me a lot of hope for Sadie. I'm now confident that she can improve. Like Edward, I believe she did a lot better than expected. She can do this!
Well, she did a lot better than both expected there, but that is because both pretty much expected nothing of her. She has fought with her left hand before, the main problem is the difference in skill both hands have and the fact that years of instinct have to be unlearned, as her reflexes all tell her to strike with the right hand.
Kersea's mention of Clayton got me thinking. Do we know for certain that he's dead or is itg just presumed?
So far, it is only presumed. He is in the deceased or unknown list as one of the characters who are decidedly unknown and not confirmed deceased. Last you saw him, he has been heavily bleeding from having his arm chopped off halfway between shoulder and elbow. That is a terrible injury, the kind that is lethal if not treated in time and even then, Richard's current fear for Clayton is unfounded, as even if he survived, he will need a phase of recovery significantly longer than what Sadie has to go through at the time.
Just so you know, we can get reply notifications now. Check your preferences if you haven't already.
I have already seen it, a very helpful thing, though it has to be enabled manually. Not sure if I have to still tag you all here, but it still makes it easier to see whom is being replied to. Now, if we can get our main post back (maybe in form of a sticky comment, stuff like that works on many other forums), that'd be amazing.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] I think it's important for Sadie to get active as much as possible. I know she is technically handicapped but s… morehe shouldn't let it drag her down or change her. She may be in a bad place emotionally and not as great a fighter but I have hope that she can improve if she keeps at it.
[Don't demand an answer] Mathea is clearly uncomfortable so let's not cause a scene. It's probably better to ask Alan when he gets sober anyway.
Man, lately when Sadie's hand is mentioned it reminds me that Dan is dead! I miss him.
On the bright side, this part gave me a lot of hope for Sadie. I'm now confident that she can improve. Like Edward, I believe she did a lot better than expected. She can do this!
Mathea brings up a good point. It might be safer to bring Kersea somewhere else.
Kersea's mention of Clayton got me thinking. Do we know for certain that he's dead or is itg just presumed?
Just so you know, we can get reply notifications now. Check your preferences if you haven't already.
Good, to know, not being able to answer messages is rather frustrating.
Ironically, I just got a PM from you, thought the bug is resolved and then realized that I can't even open that PM and now have an unread notification stuck in my PM notification folder. No idea how you managed to even send it XD Man, whatever is going on, I can only hope this is priority work for the staff right now.
The fact that the new page is starting from one post, instead of being filled up with old post that are slowly replaced is actually the most annoying thing for me out of all annoying things on the new forum.
I agree, this is probably one of the most annoying things, albeit I personally miss the main post even more than that, given how I now have to do some workaround to still have it ever present (be assured though, I am working on something there). When it comes to the new page not showing posts from previous pages (in this case even the part you guys are voting on), the only way to make it slightly less annoying for you and me is to include a link right to the most recent part in the first comment I make on every page. Very unfortunate and something that could have been prevented, but well, we have to be crafty now to regain at least a semblance of the features we lost.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere]
[Don't demand an answer]
The fact that the new page is starting from one post, instead of being filled up w… moreith old post that are slowly replaced is actually the most annoying thing for me out of all annoying things on the new forum.
Hi everyone,
I received a message from Liquid saying the newest part is ready, however he is facing some Internet issues which makes post… moreing impossible at this moment. He wants you to know that he will do his best to fix it as soon possible.
If I will get any new update, I will let you all know.
Ok this is awful. Actually awful. My comment to Mathea is below Liquids latest comment instead of under Matheas.......What???!!! Why is so confusing? Why is its line blue, is it trying to tell the emotion I'm feeling? What the heck happened?
Ok this is awful. Actually awful. My comment to Mathea is below Liquids latest comment instead of under Matheas.......What???!!! Why is so confusing? Why is its line blue, is it trying to tell the emotion I'm feeling? What the heck happened?
It's called a forum update and it is apparently encouraging better discussion and making things easier to overview, yadda, yadda. In truth, the forums have switched back to a linear style, but not out of comfort (because nothing has been more comforting that the old style), but because of technical limitations. You probably notice that the forums have been glitchy as hell before this update and to prevent such bugs in an increasingly more complicated code, it was decided to switch back to the more simplistic and less glitchy linear style, which you might know from other forums. Virtually every other forum uses it for some reason. To make things at least marginally less confusing, I would advise you to use quotes (by putting the > symbol in front of the copied text you wish to comment on) so that everyone knows whom you are commenting to. It sucks, but this is one of the features I don't think we'll get back anytime soon. Until then, if you reply to anything but the part itself (which should be obvious to anyone because of the vote), just do it that way, similar to how I replied to TheAPlegends' post right above your post.
Ok this is awful. Actually awful. My comment to Mathea is below Liquids latest comment instead of under Matheas.......What???!!! Why is so confusing? Why is its line blue, is it trying to tell the emotion I'm feeling? What the heck happened?
Thank you, Liquid human friend. I am saddened that this is the only certain way that i feel i can communicate via text with you, Liquid human friend. It is a system that resembles the content of an oxes feces and that enrages me and saddens me similarly, Liquid human friend. I still don't understand the color, Liquid human friend. Is the forum attempting to read my soul?
@LiquidChicagoTed
Thank you, Liquid human friend. I am saddened that this is the only certain way that i feel i can communicate via text … morewith you, Liquid human friend. It is a system that resembles the content of an oxes feces and that enrages me and saddens me similarly, Liquid human friend. I still don't understand the color, Liquid human friend. Is the forum attempting to read my soul?
Calm down Lord, it's not that bad. Admittedly it's a bit jarring at first but I think you'll get used to it. I am already. Liquid's suggestion is a good one. Using quotes is an easier way for others to tell what your talking about. And if you click the arrow on the bottom right of a comment that says 'In reply to...' it'll highlight the comment it's replying to. Be sure to check your preferences in your profile. So you can control what you get notifications for.
As for the colours. Blue means that it's your comment. Yellow means that it's a reply. Red means that it's just a regular comment.
Calm down Lord, it's not that bad. Admittedly it's a bit jarring at first but I think you'll get used to it. I am already. Liquid's suggestion is a good one. Using quotes is an easier way for others to tell who what your talking about. And if you click the arrow on the bottom right of a comment that says 'In reply to...' it'll highlight the comment it's replying to. Be sure to check your preferences in your profile. So you can control what you get notifications for.
Perhaps i am aged, but i am yet to truly discern this as a positive force, let alone grow accustomed to it. Every attempt i partake in ends with me yelling 'Disgrace!!' as i flail my arms dramatically and my eyes attempt to bulge out of my skull. It is with a great and burdensome heart that i must submit to this........disturbed reiteration. I feel as if i am now trapped within an inescapable cell an must partake in surviving on its twisted and macabre rules. Truly 'tis a shame.
As for the colours. Blue means that it's your comment. Yellow means that it's a reply. Red means that it's just a regular comment.
Thank you, for if no one could answer i would delve into great conspiratorial essays about the forum attempting to convert us into a cast system.
Calm down Lord, it's not that bad. Admittedly it's a bit jarring at first but I think you'll get used to it. I am already. Liquid's suggesti… moreon is a good one. Using quotes is an easier way for others to tell what your talking about. And if you click the arrow on the bottom right of a comment that says 'In reply to...' it'll highlight the comment it's replying to. Be sure to check your preferences in your profile. So you can control what you get notifications for.
As for the colours. Blue means that it's your comment. Yellow means that it's a reply. Red means that it's just a regular comment.
Hope this helps
Alright then, my internet is working again! Thank you Mathea for giving the others this update. The new forum style, well, it's still shitty… more as hell and I hope there will eventually be a less confusing and bland design. Until then, I hope you all manage to see this new part. Next time I close the voting, I will also have a little something for you, to inform you on how I plan on keeping the main post present even when it is now no longer at the top of the thread.
Sadie
The sword felt unusually heavy in her hand, even if her left arm was used to lift the much heavier weight of a shield. It was an odd feeling, striking with her left, while there was the painful absence of any sensation in her right. That being said this was still better than the feeling she had in the morning, the pain that shouldn't have been there.
It wasn't the first time she held a sword with her left hand and some things were familiar still, even if it was all w… [view original content]
What the actual fuck? So I find out there is a new part from the notification, so I'm glad that is back. But, the moment I click on the Forums, I'm immediatly taken to the replies, not the part itself. So, how is this is a problem? Because I just read the choices before I even read the part itself. And this is garbage, I seriously hate when that happens. It is bad enough when we get updates that break the system, but this is just cruel. If this is going to keep happening, I honestly can not say I will be staying here. This will become a major issue for me when important parts come out and I get spoiled.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] Nothing for Sadie here if she stays, better explore some areas where her expertise can be put to good use.
[Demand an answer from Alan] Spill the beans pal. Watcha hidin?
Alright then, my internet is working again! Thank you Mathea for giving the others this update. The new forum style, well, it's still shitty… more as hell and I hope there will eventually be a less confusing and bland design. Until then, I hope you all manage to see this new part. Next time I close the voting, I will also have a little something for you, to inform you on how I plan on keeping the main post present even when it is now no longer at the top of the thread.
Sadie
The sword felt unusually heavy in her hand, even if her left arm was used to lift the much heavier weight of a shield. It was an odd feeling, striking with her left, while there was the painful absence of any sensation in her right. That being said this was still better than the feeling she had in the morning, the pain that shouldn't have been there.
It wasn't the first time she held a sword with her left hand and some things were familiar still, even if it was all w… [view original content]
What the actual fuck? So I find out there is a new part from the notification, so I'm glad that is back. But, the moment I click on the Forums, I'm immediatly taken to the replies, not the part itself. So, how is this is a problem? Because I just read the choices before I even read the part itself. And this is garbage, I seriously hate when that happens. It is bad enough when we get updates that break the system, but this is just cruel. If this is going to keep happening, I honestly can not say I will be staying here. This will become a major issue for me when important parts come out and I get spoiled.
Yeah, this update hasn't really made things easier for the writers. In fact, I'd say this has been one of the hardest downsides of it. In this particular case, I think this was especially bad because the part itself is the last comment on Page 276, with the first vote being on Page 277. Technically though, it should have brought you to page 276 first, as the part itself should have been marked as unread for you. Ah, whatever, I am not going to claim I know how the update works. Fact is, linear style is significantly more difficult, but I believe in this community and its ability to improvise, adapt and overcome. Surely, there will be further tweaks down the line to make it better to read.
All I can say is, I am sorry you have been spoiled for these choices. I have previously not been aware this could be such a problem. Luckily, they weren't the most spoilerish choices, but thinking about it, I can see how it can be a problem in some cases. Just imagine the choice from that old Jaron part, to kill or spare Butterfly, would have been spoiled in such a way, I guess people would have been rightfully upset. Technically, it shouldn't do this though and actually just take you to the first unread comment, which should be the part itself. I can only guess it didn't do it here because of the part being the last comment on the previous page, which I think is going to be a rare occasion.
A further solution could be if the first voters for each choice put their votes into the new spoiler tags. That would, of course, require a lot of foresight from the voters and they have to remember it, but I think if we all work together there, it can happen. I know you are upset about this right now, though I can only implore you not to leave the forums over this. Sure, things look really messy right now, yet I hope the quality of the story itself is enough to get through this without any voter deciding to leave because of design alone. And I mean, the consequence of leaving would be not reading the parts at all. Is that truly better than occasionally being accidentally spoiled on the choices without knowing their context? I mean, take the first vote here, the one from Edinosaur, as an example. From it, you only learn that Sadie gets the choice to ride to Castamere, meaning you know very little of what happened in her actual part. Meanwhile, you learn that Alan appears in Richard's part, but no context on their apparent confrontation and what kind of an answer Richard demands from him. I know, other choices won't be so ambiguous (Kill Character X, for example), but I hope there won't be such occasions and I hope that even if there are, they won't ruin the story for you in such a way that stopping to read altogether is the only solution you see.
What the actual fuck? So I find out there is a new part from the notification, so I'm glad that is back. But, the moment I click on the Foru… morems, I'm immediatly taken to the replies, not the part itself. So, how is this is a problem? Because I just read the choices before I even read the part itself. And this is garbage, I seriously hate when that happens. It is bad enough when we get updates that break the system, but this is just cruel. If this is going to keep happening, I honestly can not say I will be staying here. This will become a major issue for me when important parts come out and I get spoiled.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] Nothing for Sadie here if she stays, better explore some areas where her expertise can be put to good use.
[Demand an answer from Alan] Spill the beans pal. Watcha hidin?
Man, this new update is total bs. I'm sorry, but it just has to be said. Sure, the PMs are a lot better now, but it just wasn't worth it. And it's worse when some of the mods, who should be looking at both sides btw, are apparently just going with the "Well, too bad you don't like this monstrosity we disguised as a 'normal forum maintenance', but things are going to stay this way no matter what, so you're best just sucking it up" attitude. Really, this new update is making me want to simply stop using the forums altogether and just read the new parts through Google Docs. What a bummer.
Alright then, my internet is working again! Thank you Mathea for giving the others this update. The new forum style, well, it's still shitty… more as hell and I hope there will eventually be a less confusing and bland design. Until then, I hope you all manage to see this new part. Next time I close the voting, I will also have a little something for you, to inform you on how I plan on keeping the main post present even when it is now no longer at the top of the thread.
Sadie
The sword felt unusually heavy in her hand, even if her left arm was used to lift the much heavier weight of a shield. It was an odd feeling, striking with her left, while there was the painful absence of any sensation in her right. That being said this was still better than the feeling she had in the morning, the pain that shouldn't have been there.
It wasn't the first time she held a sword with her left hand and some things were familiar still, even if it was all w… [view original content]
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] It is a more interesting choice
[Demand an answer from Alan] Obviously Richard won't be so dumb to let his brother do anything that he want with his coin
RT:
1) First of all...the new forum sucks!
2)Well Sadie has start to learn how at least defend herself without a hand
3)Are the characters that Edward mentioned in this part that live without a hand submitted ones?Some of them look hilarious!
4)Welcome to the story torturer!It seems that Leo forgot to introduce you to Sadie during the timeskip!
5)Mathea manage to do a good job healing Kersea!
6)I'm surprised that Mathea mentioned a new location in this part ,maybe we will see it (or much more probably the Lord of it) inside the story?
7)The day that Richard will throw Alan out of his house will be one of the best moments inside all the story
At the very least the linear style, yes. I think there is no other way of putting it, this is a severe downgrade to what we had and it makes things notably more confusing. Nonetheless, I hope this won't tarnish your excitement for the story and I hope the story in general can get through this without any losses. There will be ways around the limitations it currently holds. For example, it might be that the main post won't be gone forever and with it back, things might not be all that bad. I also have to say one rare wholeheartedly good thing about the new update, something that will be of note to all of you as well: It appears the post length limit is either completely gone or has been raised in some capacity. That is right, my old enemy has been defeated, which means I no longer have to cut parts of my writing, which is something I had to do to dramatic degrees in some past occasions. Whole sub-plots have been dropped because of this, that's how bad it has been, all to get my 19700 letters per part. Well, guess what, the most recent one had 20100 and I will eventually try to find out the new limits next time I write a super long part. So... linear style will always suck, but the new forums do have a few things speaking in their favour as well, even for me as a writer
2)Well Sadie has start to learn how at least defend herself without a hand
This is at least something, yeah. It will be a very long road and it is highly questionable if she will fully regain the skill she lost, but she won't be completely helpless if all of a sudden someone decides to attack her. Still outmatched, yeah, but she is not completely defenseless.
3)Are the characters that Edward mentioned in this part that live without a hand submitted ones?Some of them look hilarious!
Arstan Kalloway and Gunther Bladehand, you probably mean. Check the main post on Page 1, they are right there in the list and both will appear sooner or later I guess Gunther does have a slightly strange look to him (as Arstan is really just a guy missing his right hand), though imagine his bladehand similar to a hook, but instead of a hook, there's a long knife. Now imagine a guy with a temper to match such a crude prosthesis and you probably have someone who is a lot less hilarious
4)Welcome to the story torturer!It seems that Leo forgot to introduce you to Sadie during the timeskip!
I wouldn't say he forgot it, he just didn't bother introducing Sadie to every member of his company, which has over a hundred members after all. Aklen in particular is not the kind of guy he wanted Sadie to meet until she now had to meet him and in return, the torturer is not a person to approach others by his own accord. So, Sadie has seen him before, but never spoken to him, always just spotting him from afar.
5)Mathea manage to do a good job healing Kersea!
Aye, never doubt that she knows exactly what she is doing when healing someone. As she said, it has been a procedure that was most difficult even for her, but she made it and Kersea will very likely make it as well.
6)I'm surprised that Mathea mentioned a new location in this part ,maybe we will see it (or much more probably the Lord of it) inside the story?
Hehe, this is the sneaky mention no one caught up to yet. See, it is not the first time Lindenhill has been mentioned in the story. It was first brought up by Jaro in an old John part in December 2015 (according to the super hidden, but still very much working search function, then again a couple months later, all in all about 4 times in the story, with their ruling house, House Camberlyng, mentioned about three times. One member of the family is submitted and will appear in time.
7)The day that Richard will throw Alan out of his house will be one of the best moments inside all the story
I am very much inclined to agree. Unfortunately, this is not Richard's style. Family is important to him, even ungrateful, shitty parts of his family. However, he is increasingly fed up with Alan and might actually consider such a drastic step at some point in the future.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] It is a more interesting choice
[Demand an answer from Alan] Obviously Richard won't be so dumb to let his b… morerother do anything that he want with his coin
RT:
1) First of all...the new forum sucks!
2)Well Sadie has start to learn how at least defend herself without a hand
3)Are the characters that Edward mentioned in this part that live without a hand submitted ones?Some of them look hilarious!
4)Welcome to the story torturer!It seems that Leo forgot to introduce you to Sadie during the timeskip!
5)Mathea manage to do a good job healing Kersea!
6)I'm surprised that Mathea mentioned a new location in this part ,maybe we will see it (or much more probably the Lord of it) inside the story?
7)The day that Richard will throw Alan out of his house will be one of the best moments inside all the story
Man, this new update is total bs. I'm sorry, but it just has to be said. Sure, the PMs are a lot better now, but it just wasn't worth it. And it's worse when some of the mods, who should be looking at both sides btw, are apparently just going with the "Well, too bad you don't like this monstrosity we disguised as a 'normal forum maintenance', but things are going to stay this way no matter what, so you're best just sucking it up" attitude. Really, this new update is making me want to simply stop using the forums altogether and just read the new parts through Google Docs. What a bummer.
All in all, I am inclined to agree that what we have lost is too much when compared to what we have gained. I hope this is not a final build (and for example, the main post might not be gone forever). What I agree with is that there is not enough dialogue between those that are unhappy about this and those that are happy about this, with one person outright describing the rightful anger over the linear style as nothing but a hissy fit. I think everything should be up for a rational discussion, but I'm not seeing the sides in the forums having any of it. In any way, there should be solutions to satisfy us as well.
What I hope is that this will not tarnish your joy for the story. I am sorry you feel like this after the update and trust me, I feel similarly bad. The thing is, I dearly hope that no reader decides to stop reading after this. The interaction I have with you here is a big part of my joy for the story, so losing any of it, well, that'd suck more than the update. After all, such interaction won't be possible over google docs. Of course I will try to find solutions to make this all a bit less of a cluttered and confusing mess, I even have ideas which I will announce next time I close the voting. While I doubt it will ever look as neat as it used to look, I hope that the story itself will remain readable and enjoyable here in the forums, so that no one has to take such drastic steps.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere]
[Demand an answer from Alan]
Man, this new update is total bs. I'm sorry, but it just has to be said. Sur… moree, the PMs are a lot better now, but it just wasn't worth it. And it's worse when some of the mods, who should be looking at both sides btw, are apparently just going with the "Well, too bad you don't like this monstrosity we disguised as a 'normal forum maintenance', but things are going to stay this way no matter what, so you're best just sucking it up" attitude. Really, this new update is making me want to simply stop using the forums altogether and just read the new parts through Google Docs. What a bummer.
I'm posting this in a separate reply, as I am not sure if edit notifications are still a thing, though I think you should see this. I have put some thought into your problem and I actually realized where it came from, that it took you directly to the comments and not to the unread part. This could be interesting for others who have the similar problem. See, you get notifications not as they used to be. There are several new functions at the top of the page for you, a Notification symbol (the globe), an Inbox symbol (the letter), a Bookmark symbol (the star) and, of lesser importance right now, an Account Option symbol (the gear). You get a notification not for every thread that you follow, but for every post made in this thread. Means, you received one notification for the latest part, followed by one notification for Edinosaur's vote, followed by one notification for my comment to his vote, followed by one notification for WildlingKing's vote and so one. What you likely did was, you clicked onto the newest of these notifications, which was likely StarKing's vote right above yours and this took you right to the post in question, inevitably spoiling you for the votes in the process.
To avoid this, do not open the thread through these notifications when there is a new part, but rather open it by clicking onto the star, the Bookmark symbol. There, you should see my lovely profile picture next to a link to the story itself and this should take you right to the first unread post in the thread, in this case the part on page 276. Alternatively, you can check if there are new comments through this link: https://telltale.com/community/discussions/bookmarked which pretty much works like the now defunct https://telltale.com/community/discussions/following, meaning all your followed discussions from before the update became bookmarked discussions to be found under this new link. I have reason to believe that doing things that way will prevent you from being spoiled by accidentally reading the choices first. That being said, it would be much appreciated if you, or anyone else willing to give it a try, could inform me if this truly works, because at the moment, it is just a theory of mine, which I have reason to believe in.
It will take a bit to get used to, but as I said, there are solutions beyond just stopping to read and I'd be nothing if not here to find and provide them
it's worse when some of the mods, who should be looking at both sides btw, are apparently just going with the "Well too bad you don't like this monstrosity we disguised as a 'normal forum maintenance' , but things are going to stay this way no matter what, so you're best just sucking it up" attitude.
Let's not be unfair to the mods. It's easy to forget this but they are fans like everyone else and are volunteer moderators. What they say is their opinion. And it's not like they're going "Well too bad, I like it so you gotta deal!" They're being very reasonable and offering help to those who are having issues with the new update. Seriously Blind_Sniper in particular has been especially helpful. Offering solutions, messaging the web team about issues members are having and more. If there's something you're having an issue with I recommend giving Blind Sniper a PM. I'm certain he'll be happy to help out and offer a solution to any problems you're having.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere]
[Demand an answer from Alan]
Man, this new update is total bs. I'm sorry, but it just has to be said. Sur… moree, the PMs are a lot better now, but it just wasn't worth it. And it's worse when some of the mods, who should be looking at both sides btw, are apparently just going with the "Well, too bad you don't like this monstrosity we disguised as a 'normal forum maintenance', but things are going to stay this way no matter what, so you're best just sucking it up" attitude. Really, this new update is making me want to simply stop using the forums altogether and just read the new parts through Google Docs. What a bummer.
I don't think I'm being unfair to the mods and I know that they are volunteers, still some of them are giving off that vibe in my opinion. Thing is, this new update was done almost 100% for the convenience of the web team and the mods from what I've seen, there's just no denying that. Sure we got some features, yet the vast majority of the forum users didn't like/care for them (aside from the PM stuff, of course). Some mods, to me, appear to be just outright refusing to acknowledge this and, to me, they're giving off exactly the kind of attitude I mentioned.
If Telltale wants to dumb down the site with every update, be my guest, it's their site after all, but just don't come at us saying that it was done for everyone's best interests when the majority of users would just rather go back to the old style.
*edit: So now when I edit a reply it is no longer a reply, huh? Oh, the joy that this new update is giving me grows by leaps and bounds.
Thing is, this new update was done almost 100% for the convenience of the web team and the mods from what I've seen, there's just no denying that.
This is very much true, however, come to think of it, this is not a bad thing in itself. You have partially seen this yourself, each update broke the forums more and more and well, it would have been only a matter of time until the forums would have been broken beyond repair with whatever mess of a custom code they used for the threaded conversations. The only alternative probably would have been a complete wipe of the forums and rebuilding them from scratch with an engine that is focussed on the threaded style from the very beginning. However, it would really help if they would openly acknowledge this instead of trying to sell us on this ridiculous point about linear style being better for deeper discussion. There is no shame in admitting that they failed at making the custom code properly work, yet many arguments in favour of the new style sound a bit like excuses and I think that is really upsetting many people on here.
Some mods, to me, appear to be just outright refusing to acknowledge this and, to me, they're giving off exactly the kind of attitude I mentioned.
I must say, I had the same opinion, but actually no longer have. There are comments made by the mods (basically Blind Sniper for the most in the update thread, but Jennifer has explained some stuff as well and I think I have seen InGen around there too) that actually acknowledge the problems, yet I think he is trying to prevent the worst by trying to argue in favour of the new system when almost no one else does (for good reason). The main argument that everything is better organized in this new layout is flat out ridiculous and I am sure he is aware of it. There are other points in favour of this, for example such as us having a normal, working forum that is less prone to glitches. However, just imagine if the mods actually start to support this outcry instead of trying to prevent it, in that case they would effectively not do their jobs anymore. I guess their hope is that some people can be convinced of this argument, so that the situation as a whole will calm down. I'd say I have more of a problem with certain users who give off this attitude you described, which is something I have seen by most that argue in favour of the new style. As a matter of fact, Agent is actually one of the few in favour of the new system that remain reasonable and polite in their discussion. Others, such as one particular user who described the outcry as a hissy fit, well, they are the ones I feel annoyed with, not the mods who are pretty much sitting between the chairs, nor the users that remain reasonable in their arguments in favour of the new system. That being said though, I don't condemn you for feeling differently here, I share your anger to a certain degree.
*edit: So now when I edit a reply it is no longer a reply, huh? Oh, the joy that this new update is giving me grows by leaps and bounds.
Pretty sure this one's a bug. It's the main reason why I tag the person I reply to, at least until the replied person becomes tagged automatically (which is being worked on).
All in all, there is one thing I can assure you of, I feel like my concerns are taken very seriously. I can't go into full reason why in public, I think, or at least I am not sure if it is appropriate, but I shall tell you in private. I think there is a PM and it is my turn to answer Just, you know how much difficult this update has made things for me as a writer, you know my initial anger over the update, so trust me there, I have an overwhelmingly good reason for having this feeling of being taken seriously in my concerns and I'll share this reason with you (as well as with any other who might feel like they aren't taken seriously, just send me a message and you shall receive an answer). Also, be assured that not all will stay as it is right now, things will get a bit better. I'm not saying accept the linear style, it is horrid, but being angry about this won't help anyone, least of it all you. When I said I don't want to lose anyone here, this includes me being worried that someone might get banned for accidentally being too crass towards the wrong person.
I don't think I'm being unfair to the mods and I know that they are volunteers, still some of them are giving off that vibe in my opinion. T… morehing is, this new update was done almost 100% for the convenience of the web team and the mods from what I've seen, there's just no denying that. Sure we got some features, yet the vast majority of the forum users didn't like/care for them (aside from the PM stuff, of course). Some mods, to me, appear to be just outright refusing to acknowledge this and, to me, they're giving off exactly the kind of attitude I mentioned.
If Telltale wants to dumb down the site with every update, be my guest, it's their site after all, but just don't come at us saying that it was done for everyone's best interests when the majority of users would just rather go back to the old style.
*edit: So now when I edit a reply it is no longer a reply, huh? Oh, the joy that this new update is giving me grows by leaps and bounds.
[Stay at the camp] Sadie is weak, must act weak. [Don't demand an answer] Alan probably ratted out Richard, but that's not an issue, really. We're fine. The guy has had a long day, he needs rest...
Alright then, my internet is working again! Thank you Mathea for giving the others this update. The new forum style, well, it's still shitty… more as hell and I hope there will eventually be a less confusing and bland design. Until then, I hope you all manage to see this new part. Next time I close the voting, I will also have a little something for you, to inform you on how I plan on keeping the main post present even when it is now no longer at the top of the thread.
Sadie
The sword felt unusually heavy in her hand, even if her left arm was used to lift the much heavier weight of a shield. It was an odd feeling, striking with her left, while there was the painful absence of any sensation in her right. That being said this was still better than the feeling she had in the morning, the pain that shouldn't have been there.
It wasn't the first time she held a sword with her left hand and some things were familiar still, even if it was all w… [view original content]
@LiquidChicagoTed Ah I see. An interesting solution never the less. I will try this theory when the next part comes out and hopefully this works. I just pray that the Telltale gods listen to us in terms of updates. The Forums right now looks like 4Chan or Tumblr.
@NightShroud18
I'm posting this in a separate reply, as I am not sure if edit notifications are still a thing, though I think you should … moresee this. I have put some thought into your problem and I actually realized where it came from, that it took you directly to the comments and not to the unread part. This could be interesting for others who have the similar problem. See, you get notifications not as they used to be. There are several new functions at the top of the page for you, a Notification symbol (the globe), an Inbox symbol (the letter), a Bookmark symbol (the star) and, of lesser importance right now, an Account Option symbol (the gear). You get a notification not for every thread that you follow, but for every post made in this thread. Means, you received one notification for the latest part, followed by one notification for Edinosaur's vote, followed by one notification for my comment to his vote, followed by one notification for … [view original content]
First of all, I am glad most regular voters have voted here, you guys really eased a big concern of mine after this update. Speaking of, I don't think I'll ever get used to the linear style. Here's hoping Telltale only does this to work on a less glitchy version of their custom threaded style, but admittedly, this hope is slim. They made a mistake and to be completely honest, you guys are the reason I'm still here after this. To be fair, you have always been the reason for me being here. That being said, while I loathe this particular style, there are actually a couple things speaking in favour of the update and I fear they wouldn't have been possible without the switch to the more simple linear style. Most importantly, some have likely noticed it in my reply to the_not_chosen_one, the post length limit seems gone or at least raised. My enemy lies defeated at last and I can write without artificial boundaries. Though since I have gotten used to it, I shall take 20000 letters per part as a point of reference for my writing. If it's going to be 21000? Probably not a problem anymore and that is actually a huge thing for the story. And well, once we get the main post back, things might not look as bleak as they do right now. One thing it makes a bit more complicated though is counting your votes. I'll have to think of something there.
Now, the next part is hopefully going to be out today. University has started again and I can't pull an all-nighter anymore, at least not all the time, but I think I might be able to finish this part today. It's going to be a Raenna part. Originally, Jenna was planned to be there as well, but I think both need a full-length part for the next step in their adventures. So, last time we saw Raenna, she arrived at Winterfell, together with Brandon Snow, Briar Catelins and their new guide for the final part of the journey, Myles Cerwyn. They met up with Mace Crowl and his actual living unicorn. It was not a nice unicorn. During this talk, Raenna learned about Aegon Targaryen's declaration of war on Westeros, reminding her of the fear she had of the name Targaryen in her childhood. With such negative thoughts, she met Torrhen Stark and his court for the first time, where she was presented with the option to kneel to him or not. With an overwhelming majority, you decided to kneel.
Also, remember how I said I will find a solution for the lack of a main post? Well, hopefully this is only necessary as a temporary solution, but I think in case the staff decides against reintroducing this feature, here is my alternative. I will copy the following part into any post I close a voting with, meaning the important links will remain present without you needing to switch back to Page 1 anytime you wish to check up on something. A bit more clicking is mandatory though, as long as we don't have a main post.
If you are a new reader, allow me to welcome you! Check out the first post on Page 1 to learn more about this!
And for readers new and old, here is a collection of important links you might be interested in:
I can't say I am too much of a fan of this linear style either. If it wasn't for FoT I probably would've left this forums. Not only is it an eyesore, it is also much more difficult to operate. I can't wait to see how conversations get oh so very jumbled and mumbled.
I'm very excited to get another part in the North. Can't wait to see what Raenna is going to do next up there. She is getting ever farther from Samuel, but I hold hope that they'll find eachother someday. Raenna can ride up to him atop Mace's unicorn and sweep him off his feet. And we are going to get extra long parts more often now, which I am very excited for to say the least. Keep at the good work Liquid! You're the guy that makes this forum worth it!
The Voting is closed!
Sadie is going to ride with Leo to Castamere
Richard is going to demand an answer from Alan
First of all, I a… morem glad most regular voters have voted here, you guys really eased a big concern of mine after this update. Speaking of, I don't think I'll ever get used to the linear style. Here's hoping Telltale only does this to work on a less glitchy version of their custom threaded style, but admittedly, this hope is slim. They made a mistake and to be completely honest, you guys are the reason I'm still here after this. To be fair, you have always been the reason for me being here. That being said, while I loathe this particular style, there are actually a couple things speaking in favour of the update and I fear they wouldn't have been possible without the switch to the more simple linear style. Most importantly, some have likely noticed it in my reply to the_not_chosen_one, the post length limit seems gone or at l… [view original content]
Woops, I missed the vote. Awfully sorry for that. I loved Sadie's chapter particularly because it means that we will finally see the Reyne family again! I'm really happy, missed them a lot.
Also I have to mention that my absence here can be explained with my secret project, which is connected to your story Might tell you the details later!
Comments
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] It would be good for her if she just stops sulking in her tent, and I want to see the interactions between Leonard and the Reynes, since while he despises most nobility, he's technically still one of them.
That Aklen definitely doesn't look Westerosi to me, and certainly not someone to get on their bad side.
[Demand an answer from Alan] He's not making himself any favors by refusing to say were he got the money, so is better to be sure he's not doing some shady deals.
Since apparently we have to tag people so they know this is a reply to them, here is my reply to the post made by @Edinosaur23 right above mine.
Aye, then this is the choice to pick. Leonard and the Reynes will have a very interesting relationship, because of how heavily different they are. His views are bound to clash with those of traditional views of nobility and even with more moderate and reasonable nobles, which I'd say Mileena Reyne counts as, he won't quite get along.
Here I can confirm, Aklen is Westerosi, yet still no one anyone should count to their enemies. He had some influence from outside Westeros for sure, habits and visual elements he picked up during his long service in various sellsword groups, yet is actually a native of the Rock.
Also, ugh, this apparently just started a new site. To everyone reading this and being confused where the new part is located, look at the last post of page 276. More precisely, look at this post here:
https://telltale.com/community/discussion/comment/2866323#Comment_2866323
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] I figure it's better for Sadie to have something to do. And I feel like going to Castamere would be more interesting for the readers as well
I did like Sadie's training with Edward, perhaps there is still hope for making her a warrior again.
[Demand an answer from Alan] I really want to know what this weasel has been up to, and there shouldn't be a reason for him to keep secrets from Richard. Only thing I'm a bit worried about is Mathea's presence in this situation - Alan already slipped that Kersea is a killer, he might slip something more (like Leonard's presence for example) if we start arguing with him. That said, Mathea is definitely trustworthy, so it's not that big of a deal if she learns something.
@WildlingKing
Hm, it very much depends on herself. Edward brought up two people (submitted characters by the way, super sneaky, ominous foreshadowiiiing) who managed to become accomplished fighters despite their disabilities, yet on the other hand you got someone like Jaime Lannister, who instead took on a larger role, becoming more a leader than a fighter. It is not hopeless with her, but she remains ambiguous if it is even worth trying, because this is going to be one hell of a long road to recovery.
It's true Alan might slip more than just Kersea's former profession, even if he has a tiny bit more respect for Leonard (mostly because Leonard, unlike Kersea, is in the physical position to beat the crap out of him if he looks at him the wrong way). Saying this towards Mathea is a relatively low risk, it is highly unlikely she is running to Mullendore next scene to tell him about all this. However, Richard is mainly concerned that such knowledge could put her at risk in the end, that she could accidentally reveal something or stuff like that.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere].
[Demand an answer from Alan]
[Ride with Leo to Castamere]
[Don't demand an answer]
The fact that the new page is starting from one post, instead of being filled up with old post that are slowly replaced is actually the most annoying thing for me out of all annoying things on the new forum.
What the Hell!!, I can't enter the messages in the forums.
@Edinosaur23
Yeah, that seems to be an issue that came up just after I sent you the reply to your latest PM. Around the same time, Telltale brought back two other features we had in the old forums, namely like counts (now measured by that little heart between the flag and reply button) and reply notifications. I guess someone forgot to check something there, surely not a big thing to fix. I know the mods are aware of that problem and have told the staff about it and for once, I am positive the fix will come soon.
Good, to know, not being able to answer messages is rather frustrating.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] I think it's important for Sadie to get active as much as possible. I know she is technically handicapped but she shouldn't let it drag her down or change her. She may be in a bad place emotionally and not as great a fighter but I have hope that she can improve if she keeps at it.
[Don't demand an answer] Mathea is clearly uncomfortable so let's not cause a scene. It's probably better to ask Alan when he gets sober anyway.
Man, lately when Sadie's hand is mentioned it reminds me that Dan is dead! I miss him.
On the bright side, this part gave me a lot of hope for Sadie. I'm now confident that she can improve. Like Edward, I believe she did a lot better than expected. She can do this!
Mathea brings up a good point. It might be safer to bring Kersea somewhere else.
Kersea's mention of Clayton got me thinking. Do we know for certain that he's dead or is itg just presumed?
Just so you know, we can get reply notifications now. Check your preferences if you haven't already.
@AgentZ46
And she surely misses him as well, probably even more than her hand, even if that particular loss affects her more in her day to day life. Dan has been one of a kind, her best friend by far and losing him, she hasn't even fully realized just how deeply this has hit her.
Well, she did a lot better than both expected there, but that is because both pretty much expected nothing of her. She has fought with her left hand before, the main problem is the difference in skill both hands have and the fact that years of instinct have to be unlearned, as her reflexes all tell her to strike with the right hand.
So far, it is only presumed. He is in the deceased or unknown list as one of the characters who are decidedly unknown and not confirmed deceased. Last you saw him, he has been heavily bleeding from having his arm chopped off halfway between shoulder and elbow. That is a terrible injury, the kind that is lethal if not treated in time and even then, Richard's current fear for Clayton is unfounded, as even if he survived, he will need a phase of recovery significantly longer than what Sadie has to go through at the time.
I have already seen it, a very helpful thing, though it has to be enabled manually. Not sure if I have to still tag you all here, but it still makes it easier to see whom is being replied to. Now, if we can get our main post back (maybe in form of a sticky comment, stuff like that works on many other forums), that'd be amazing.
@Edinosaur23
Ironically, I just got a PM from you, thought the bug is resolved and then realized that I can't even open that PM and now have an unread notification stuck in my PM notification folder. No idea how you managed to even send it XD Man, whatever is going on, I can only hope this is priority work for the staff right now.
@TheAPlegends
I agree, this is probably one of the most annoying things, albeit I personally miss the main post even more than that, given how I now have to do some workaround to still have it ever present (be assured though, I am working on something there). When it comes to the new page not showing posts from previous pages (in this case even the part you guys are voting on), the only way to make it slightly less annoying for you and me is to include a link right to the most recent part in the first comment I make on every page. Very unfortunate and something that could have been prevented, but well, we have to be crafty now to regain at least a semblance of the features we lost.
Thank you Mathea. I know i am super late, but still, thank you for helping liquid
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Ok this is awful. Actually awful. My comment to Mathea is below Liquids latest comment instead of under Matheas.......What???!!! Why is so confusing? Why is its line blue, is it trying to tell the emotion I'm feeling? What the heck happened?
@Lord_EAA
It's called a forum update and it is apparently encouraging better discussion and making things easier to overview, yadda, yadda. In truth, the forums have switched back to a linear style, but not out of comfort (because nothing has been more comforting that the old style), but because of technical limitations. You probably notice that the forums have been glitchy as hell before this update and to prevent such bugs in an increasingly more complicated code, it was decided to switch back to the more simplistic and less glitchy linear style, which you might know from other forums. Virtually every other forum uses it for some reason. To make things at least marginally less confusing, I would advise you to use quotes (by putting the > symbol in front of the copied text you wish to comment on) so that everyone knows whom you are commenting to. It sucks, but this is one of the features I don't think we'll get back anytime soon. Until then, if you reply to anything but the part itself (which should be obvious to anyone because of the vote), just do it that way, similar to how I replied to TheAPlegends' post right above your post.
@LiquidChicagoTed
Thank you, Liquid human friend. I am saddened that this is the only certain way that i feel i can communicate via text with you, Liquid human friend. It is a system that resembles the content of an oxes feces and that enrages me and saddens me similarly, Liquid human friend. I still don't understand the color, Liquid human friend. Is the forum attempting to read my soul?
The blue just means it's your comment. Yellow is for replys, red for regular comments.
Calm down Lord, it's not that bad. Admittedly it's a bit jarring at first but I think you'll get used to it. I am already. Liquid's suggestion is a good one. Using quotes is an easier way for others to tell what your talking about. And if you click the arrow on the bottom right of a comment that says 'In reply to...' it'll highlight the comment it's replying to. Be sure to check your preferences in your profile. So you can control what you get notifications for.
As for the colours. Blue means that it's your comment. Yellow means that it's a reply. Red means that it's just a regular comment.
Hope this helps
@AgentZ46
Perhaps i am aged, but i am yet to truly discern this as a positive force, let alone grow accustomed to it. Every attempt i partake in ends with me yelling 'Disgrace!!' as i flail my arms dramatically and my eyes attempt to bulge out of my skull. It is with a great and burdensome heart that i must submit to this........disturbed reiteration. I feel as if i am now trapped within an inescapable cell an must partake in surviving on its twisted and macabre rules. Truly 'tis a shame.
Thank you, for if no one could answer i would delve into great conspiratorial essays about the forum attempting to convert us into a cast system.
It aids me yes, if ever so slightly.
@WildlingKing
Thank you, fellow brethren. It is bizarre still, is it not, whoever would pick such odd coloring scheme?
[Ride with Leo to Castamere]
[Don't demand an answer]
What the actual fuck? So I find out there is a new part from the notification, so I'm glad that is back. But, the moment I click on the Forums, I'm immediatly taken to the replies, not the part itself. So, how is this is a problem? Because I just read the choices before I even read the part itself. And this is garbage, I seriously hate when that happens. It is bad enough when we get updates that break the system, but this is just cruel. If this is going to keep happening, I honestly can not say I will be staying here. This will become a major issue for me when important parts come out and I get spoiled.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] Nothing for Sadie here if she stays, better explore some areas where her expertise can be put to good use.
[Demand an answer from Alan] Spill the beans pal. Watcha hidin?
@NightShroud18
Yeah, this update hasn't really made things easier for the writers. In fact, I'd say this has been one of the hardest downsides of it. In this particular case, I think this was especially bad because the part itself is the last comment on Page 276, with the first vote being on Page 277. Technically though, it should have brought you to page 276 first, as the part itself should have been marked as unread for you. Ah, whatever, I am not going to claim I know how the update works. Fact is, linear style is significantly more difficult, but I believe in this community and its ability to improvise, adapt and overcome. Surely, there will be further tweaks down the line to make it better to read.
All I can say is, I am sorry you have been spoiled for these choices. I have previously not been aware this could be such a problem. Luckily, they weren't the most spoilerish choices, but thinking about it, I can see how it can be a problem in some cases. Just imagine the choice from that old Jaron part, to kill or spare Butterfly, would have been spoiled in such a way, I guess people would have been rightfully upset. Technically, it shouldn't do this though and actually just take you to the first unread comment, which should be the part itself. I can only guess it didn't do it here because of the part being the last comment on the previous page, which I think is going to be a rare occasion.
A further solution could be if the first voters for each choice put their votes into the new spoiler tags. That would, of course, require a lot of foresight from the voters and they have to remember it, but I think if we all work together there, it can happen. I know you are upset about this right now, though I can only implore you not to leave the forums over this. Sure, things look really messy right now, yet I hope the quality of the story itself is enough to get through this without any voter deciding to leave because of design alone. And I mean, the consequence of leaving would be not reading the parts at all. Is that truly better than occasionally being accidentally spoiled on the choices without knowing their context? I mean, take the first vote here, the one from Edinosaur, as an example. From it, you only learn that Sadie gets the choice to ride to Castamere, meaning you know very little of what happened in her actual part. Meanwhile, you learn that Alan appears in Richard's part, but no context on their apparent confrontation and what kind of an answer Richard demands from him. I know, other choices won't be so ambiguous (Kill Character X, for example), but I hope there won't be such occasions and I hope that even if there are, they won't ruin the story for you in such a way that stopping to read altogether is the only solution you see.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere]
[Demand an answer from Alan]
Man, this new update is total bs. I'm sorry, but it just has to be said. Sure, the PMs are a lot better now, but it just wasn't worth it. And it's worse when some of the mods, who should be looking at both sides btw, are apparently just going with the "Well, too bad you don't like this monstrosity we disguised as a 'normal forum maintenance', but things are going to stay this way no matter what, so you're best just sucking it up" attitude. Really, this new update is making me want to simply stop using the forums altogether and just read the new parts through Google Docs. What a bummer.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere] It is a more interesting choice
[Demand an answer from Alan] Obviously Richard won't be so dumb to let his brother do anything that he want with his coin
RT:
1) First of all...the new forum sucks!
2)Well Sadie has start to learn how at least defend herself without a hand
3)Are the characters that Edward mentioned in this part that live without a hand submitted ones?Some of them look hilarious!
4)Welcome to the story torturer!It seems that Leo forgot to introduce you to Sadie during the timeskip!
5)Mathea manage to do a good job healing Kersea!
6)I'm surprised that Mathea mentioned a new location in this part ,maybe we will see it (or much more probably the Lord of it) inside the story?
7)The day that Richard will throw Alan out of his house will be one of the best moments inside all the story
@The_not_chosen_one
At the very least the linear style, yes. I think there is no other way of putting it, this is a severe downgrade to what we had and it makes things notably more confusing. Nonetheless, I hope this won't tarnish your excitement for the story and I hope the story in general can get through this without any losses. There will be ways around the limitations it currently holds. For example, it might be that the main post won't be gone forever and with it back, things might not be all that bad. I also have to say one rare wholeheartedly good thing about the new update, something that will be of note to all of you as well: It appears the post length limit is either completely gone or has been raised in some capacity. That is right, my old enemy has been defeated, which means I no longer have to cut parts of my writing, which is something I had to do to dramatic degrees in some past occasions. Whole sub-plots have been dropped because of this, that's how bad it has been, all to get my 19700 letters per part. Well, guess what, the most recent one had 20100 and I will eventually try to find out the new limits next time I write a super long part. So... linear style will always suck, but the new forums do have a few things speaking in their favour as well, even for me as a writer
This is at least something, yeah. It will be a very long road and it is highly questionable if she will fully regain the skill she lost, but she won't be completely helpless if all of a sudden someone decides to attack her. Still outmatched, yeah, but she is not completely defenseless.
Arstan Kalloway and Gunther Bladehand, you probably mean. Check the main post on Page 1, they are right there in the list and both will appear sooner or later
I guess Gunther does have a slightly strange look to him (as Arstan is really just a guy missing his right hand), though imagine his bladehand similar to a hook, but instead of a hook, there's a long knife. Now imagine a guy with a temper to match such a crude prosthesis and you probably have someone who is a lot less hilarious 
I wouldn't say he forgot it, he just didn't bother introducing Sadie to every member of his company, which has over a hundred members after all. Aklen in particular is not the kind of guy he wanted Sadie to meet until she now had to meet him and in return, the torturer is not a person to approach others by his own accord. So, Sadie has seen him before, but never spoken to him, always just spotting him from afar.
Aye, never doubt that she knows exactly what she is doing when healing someone. As she said, it has been a procedure that was most difficult even for her, but she made it and Kersea will very likely make it as well.
Hehe, this is the sneaky mention no one caught up to yet. See, it is not the first time Lindenhill has been mentioned in the story. It was first brought up by Jaro in an old John part in December 2015 (according to the super hidden, but still very much working search function, then again a couple months later, all in all about 4 times in the story, with their ruling house, House Camberlyng, mentioned about three times. One member of the family is submitted and will appear in time.
I am very much inclined to agree. Unfortunately, this is not Richard's style. Family is important to him, even ungrateful, shitty parts of his family. However, he is increasingly fed up with Alan and might actually consider such a drastic step at some point in the future.
@Javier Raviolli
All in all, I am inclined to agree that what we have lost is too much when compared to what we have gained. I hope this is not a final build (and for example, the main post might not be gone forever). What I agree with is that there is not enough dialogue between those that are unhappy about this and those that are happy about this, with one person outright describing the rightful anger over the linear style as nothing but a hissy fit. I think everything should be up for a rational discussion, but I'm not seeing the sides in the forums having any of it. In any way, there should be solutions to satisfy us as well.
What I hope is that this will not tarnish your joy for the story. I am sorry you feel like this after the update and trust me, I feel similarly bad. The thing is, I dearly hope that no reader decides to stop reading after this. The interaction I have with you here is a big part of my joy for the story, so losing any of it, well, that'd suck more than the update. After all, such interaction won't be possible over google docs. Of course I will try to find solutions to make this all a bit less of a cluttered and confusing mess, I even have ideas which I will announce next time I close the voting. While I doubt it will ever look as neat as it used to look, I hope that the story itself will remain readable and enjoyable here in the forums, so that no one has to take such drastic steps.
@NightShroud18
I'm posting this in a separate reply, as I am not sure if edit notifications are still a thing, though I think you should see this. I have put some thought into your problem and I actually realized where it came from, that it took you directly to the comments and not to the unread part. This could be interesting for others who have the similar problem. See, you get notifications not as they used to be. There are several new functions at the top of the page for you, a Notification symbol (the globe), an Inbox symbol (the letter), a Bookmark symbol (the star) and, of lesser importance right now, an Account Option symbol (the gear). You get a notification not for every thread that you follow, but for every post made in this thread. Means, you received one notification for the latest part, followed by one notification for Edinosaur's vote, followed by one notification for my comment to his vote, followed by one notification for WildlingKing's vote and so one. What you likely did was, you clicked onto the newest of these notifications, which was likely StarKing's vote right above yours and this took you right to the post in question, inevitably spoiling you for the votes in the process.
To avoid this, do not open the thread through these notifications when there is a new part, but rather open it by clicking onto the star, the Bookmark symbol. There, you should see my lovely profile picture next to a link to the story itself and this should take you right to the first unread post in the thread, in this case the part on page 276. Alternatively, you can check if there are new comments through this link: https://telltale.com/community/discussions/bookmarked which pretty much works like the now defunct https://telltale.com/community/discussions/following, meaning all your followed discussions from before the update became bookmarked discussions to be found under this new link. I have reason to believe that doing things that way will prevent you from being spoiled by accidentally reading the choices first. That being said, it would be much appreciated if you, or anyone else willing to give it a try, could inform me if this truly works, because at the moment, it is just a theory of mine, which I have reason to believe in.
It will take a bit to get used to, but as I said, there are solutions beyond just stopping to read and I'd be nothing if not here to find and provide them
Let's not be unfair to the mods. It's easy to forget this but they are fans like everyone else and are volunteer moderators. What they say is their opinion. And it's not like they're going "Well too bad, I like it so you gotta deal!" They're being very reasonable and offering help to those who are having issues with the new update. Seriously Blind_Sniper in particular has been especially helpful. Offering solutions, messaging the web team about issues members are having and more. If there's something you're having an issue with I recommend giving Blind Sniper a PM. I'm certain he'll be happy to help out and offer a solution to any problems you're having.
I don't think I'm being unfair to the mods and I know that they are volunteers, still some of them are giving off that vibe in my opinion. Thing is, this new update was done almost 100% for the convenience of the web team and the mods from what I've seen, there's just no denying that. Sure we got some features, yet the vast majority of the forum users didn't like/care for them (aside from the PM stuff, of course). Some mods, to me, appear to be just outright refusing to acknowledge this and, to me, they're giving off exactly the kind of attitude I mentioned.
If Telltale wants to dumb down the site with every update, be my guest, it's their site after all, but just don't come at us saying that it was done for everyone's best interests when the majority of users would just rather go back to the old style.
*edit: So now when I edit a reply it is no longer a reply, huh? Oh, the joy that this new update is giving me grows by leaps and bounds.
@Javier Raviolli
This is very much true, however, come to think of it, this is not a bad thing in itself. You have partially seen this yourself, each update broke the forums more and more and well, it would have been only a matter of time until the forums would have been broken beyond repair with whatever mess of a custom code they used for the threaded conversations. The only alternative probably would have been a complete wipe of the forums and rebuilding them from scratch with an engine that is focussed on the threaded style from the very beginning. However, it would really help if they would openly acknowledge this instead of trying to sell us on this ridiculous point about linear style being better for deeper discussion. There is no shame in admitting that they failed at making the custom code properly work, yet many arguments in favour of the new style sound a bit like excuses and I think that is really upsetting many people on here.
I must say, I had the same opinion, but actually no longer have. There are comments made by the mods (basically Blind Sniper for the most in the update thread, but Jennifer has explained some stuff as well and I think I have seen InGen around there too) that actually acknowledge the problems, yet I think he is trying to prevent the worst by trying to argue in favour of the new system when almost no one else does (for good reason). The main argument that everything is better organized in this new layout is flat out ridiculous and I am sure he is aware of it. There are other points in favour of this, for example such as us having a normal, working forum that is less prone to glitches. However, just imagine if the mods actually start to support this outcry instead of trying to prevent it, in that case they would effectively not do their jobs anymore. I guess their hope is that some people can be convinced of this argument, so that the situation as a whole will calm down. I'd say I have more of a problem with certain users who give off this attitude you described, which is something I have seen by most that argue in favour of the new style. As a matter of fact, Agent is actually one of the few in favour of the new system that remain reasonable and polite in their discussion. Others, such as one particular user who described the outcry as a hissy fit, well, they are the ones I feel annoyed with, not the mods who are pretty much sitting between the chairs, nor the users that remain reasonable in their arguments in favour of the new system. That being said though, I don't condemn you for feeling differently here, I share your anger to a certain degree.
Pretty sure this one's a bug. It's the main reason why I tag the person I reply to, at least until the replied person becomes tagged automatically (which is being worked on).
All in all, there is one thing I can assure you of, I feel like my concerns are taken very seriously. I can't go into full reason why in public, I think, or at least I am not sure if it is appropriate, but I shall tell you in private. I think there is a PM and it is my turn to answer
Just, you know how much difficult this update has made things for me as a writer, you know my initial anger over the update, so trust me there, I have an overwhelmingly good reason for having this feeling of being taken seriously in my concerns and I'll share this reason with you (as well as with any other who might feel like they aren't taken seriously, just send me a message and you shall receive an answer). Also, be assured that not all will stay as it is right now, things will get a bit better. I'm not saying accept the linear style, it is horrid, but being angry about this won't help anyone, least of it all you. When I said I don't want to lose anyone here, this includes me being worried that someone might get banned for accidentally being too crass towards the wrong person.
[Stay at the camp] Sadie is weak, must act weak.
[Don't demand an answer] Alan probably ratted out Richard, but that's not an issue, really. We're fine. The guy has had a long day, he needs rest...
[Ride with Leo to Castamere]
[Demand an answer]
[Stay at the camp] Two Face is just going to go spat in our face if we go knock on his door. Might as well hang out with our fam.
[Don't demand an answer] If we are ever going to be buddies with our lil bro ever again, we are going to have to trust him in his crappy decisions.
@LiquidChicagoTed Ah I see. An interesting solution never the less. I will try this theory when the next part comes out and hopefully this works. I just pray that the Telltale gods listen to us in terms of updates. The Forums right now looks like 4Chan or Tumblr.
[Ride with Leo to Castamere]
[Demand an answer from Alan]
The Voting is closed!
Sadie is going to ride with Leo to Castamere
Richard is going to demand an answer from Alan
First of all, I am glad most regular voters have voted here, you guys really eased a big concern of mine after this update. Speaking of, I don't think I'll ever get used to the linear style. Here's hoping Telltale only does this to work on a less glitchy version of their custom threaded style, but admittedly, this hope is slim. They made a mistake and to be completely honest, you guys are the reason I'm still here after this. To be fair, you have always been the reason for me being here. That being said, while I loathe this particular style, there are actually a couple things speaking in favour of the update and I fear they wouldn't have been possible without the switch to the more simple linear style. Most importantly, some have likely noticed it in my reply to the_not_chosen_one, the post length limit seems gone or at least raised. My enemy lies defeated at last and I can write without artificial boundaries. Though since I have gotten used to it, I shall take 20000 letters per part as a point of reference for my writing. If it's going to be 21000? Probably not a problem anymore and that is actually a huge thing for the story. And well, once we get the main post back, things might not look as bleak as they do right now. One thing it makes a bit more complicated though is counting your votes. I'll have to think of something there.
Now, the next part is hopefully going to be out today. University has started again and I can't pull an all-nighter anymore, at least not all the time, but I think I might be able to finish this part today. It's going to be a Raenna part. Originally, Jenna was planned to be there as well, but I think both need a full-length part for the next step in their adventures. So, last time we saw Raenna, she arrived at Winterfell, together with Brandon Snow, Briar Catelins and their new guide for the final part of the journey, Myles Cerwyn. They met up with Mace Crowl and his actual living unicorn. It was not a nice unicorn. During this talk, Raenna learned about Aegon Targaryen's declaration of war on Westeros, reminding her of the fear she had of the name Targaryen in her childhood. With such negative thoughts, she met Torrhen Stark and his court for the first time, where she was presented with the option to kneel to him or not. With an overwhelming majority, you decided to kneel.
Also, remember how I said I will find a solution for the lack of a main post? Well, hopefully this is only necessary as a temporary solution, but I think in case the staff decides against reintroducing this feature, here is my alternative. I will copy the following part into any post I close a voting with, meaning the important links will remain present without you needing to switch back to Page 1 anytime you wish to check up on something. A bit more clicking is mandatory though, as long as we don't have a main post.
If you are a new reader, allow me to welcome you! Check out the first post on Page 1 to learn more about this!
And for readers new and old, here is a collection of important links you might be interested in:
I can't say I am too much of a fan of this linear style either. If it wasn't for FoT I probably would've left this forums. Not only is it an eyesore, it is also much more difficult to operate. I can't wait to see how conversations get oh so very jumbled and mumbled.
I'm very excited to get another part in the North. Can't wait to see what Raenna is going to do next up there. She is getting ever farther from Samuel, but I hold hope that they'll find eachother someday. Raenna can ride up to him atop Mace's unicorn and sweep him off his feet. And we are going to get extra long parts more often now, which I am very excited for to say the least. Keep at the good work Liquid! You're the guy that makes this forum worth it!
Woops, I missed the vote. Awfully sorry for that. I loved Sadie's chapter particularly because it means that we will finally see the Reyne family again! I'm really happy, missed them a lot.
Might tell you the details later!
Also I have to mention that my absence here can be explained with my secret project, which is connected to your story