Arvo Did Nothing Wrong!
Yep, that's all. Discuss pls
"I'm playing devils advocate if you couldnt tell pls dont crucify me lol"
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Yep, that's all. Discuss pls
"I'm playing devils advocate if you couldnt tell pls dont crucify me lol"
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I wouldn't say *nothing wrong, but pretty close.
Well, besides shooting a kid after robbing said kid and a recently born baby of desperately needed supplies, being directly or indirectly responsible for Luke's death and an ambush that nearly killed the whole main cast including said baby, and just being, as dear ol' Ken would put it, a shitbird of maximum levels, yeah, Arvo was great!
Well, he lied about the supplies for his ‘sick’ sister and surrounded Clementine’s group even if she did not rob him. He instigated the shoot-out in the first place and got Luke / Bonnie killed due to recklessness, so how did he do nothing wrong?
Plus he shot Clementine!
I forgot to mention that, but you knew what I meant.
Oh and he pulled a gun on Clem when they first met...but sure...other than all that other shit...he is innocent.
He's wrong for not slapping the living shit out of Jane when she tried to rob him
He ambushed me despite the fact that I didn't rob anything from him and shot Clem in the shoulder after I dropped the gun.
Yeah, totally innocent.
He may be a little sh!t but you kinda right, he was just upset and angry, I mean he did lose this sister and his group then you have psycho Kenny on his back 24/7, the only thing I hate him for is shooting Clem, he shouldn't have done it
You know, part of me thought it would've been hilarious if it turned out his gun wasn't even loaded or at least had the safety on when Jane threatened him.
Nah, the medicine was indeed hers. Not only do the symptoms he described Natasha having match up with them, but she apparently has a line specifically mentioning them when things start getting out of control.
Self-defense.
Uh, define wrong?
Kinda glad we're getting another topic about something, though.
IT'S A DOG-EAT-DOG WORLD. EVERY MAN, WOMAN, CHILD, AND BABY FOR THEMSELVES.
Well, as many others already mentioned, there ARE for sure things he did wrong.
1. He tells his group that you stole from them even when you decide to give him the medicine. (But I still don't understand why they didn't just share it tbh...)
2. He runs off at the lake, indirectly causing Luke's and eventually Bonnie's death. (I understand that he would want to escape, but they were standing on frcking ice!)
3. He steals from a group with a newborn and a little girl who need the food really bad.
4. He. Fckin. Shots. At. Clementine. Without a reason. What fool just shots at a little girl?? There even are options where you can stand up for Arvo like stopping Kenny from beating him. So just... why?
He tried to hide medicine in a rubbish bin, he distracted the group so his friends could pull off an ambush and he shot Clementine out of spite and knew full well she could've died. However, this is the apocalypse, every character has had to do a lot of crappy things to survive, doesn't mean they did nothing wrong though.
How is this an excuse? It was never my fault, I didn't rob him and he still ambushed the group. Natasha died because of his stupid brother. I never felt any sympathy when he lost his sister.
This threat is about Arvo, you talk about Kenny. Seems logic and stupid.
Fair enough, I don't get why he ambushed them ether especially when you don't rob him makes no sense, I blame Telltale bad writing, idk why i bought Kenny into this, very stupid of me,
Sorry
Good response, surprisingly.
Yeah, I was wonderin about that myself once.
But because there'd be no obstacle.
Ice he was confident they've all be able to cross, suggesting that he and Buricko's gun totin ass were able to get across with no problem before.
The fact that he ended up nearly falling in himself goes to show that either they were more careful before or that the ice had thinned since they'd last been there.
Though, considering Jane was able to get to the spot they fell in at and then run Clementine across the thing....
But yeah, environmental hazard.
Because they needed a dramatic/intense segueway into the Lee flashback and having Arvo shoot her even when they're on relatively "decent" terms and/or it makes little to no sense for him to do so was the laziestsimplest way of doing it.
Uh, more like because of Buricko, Kenny, and determinately Clementine.
It's the consistent reason as to why Arvo got so aggressive(?) near the end compared to his first couple of scenes.
Because he was ordered to.
Sometimes I get myself thinking about what was going on with the brainstorming of No Going Back's plot and how Arvo was handled as a villain:
I honestly cannot consider Arvo a villain let alone hate him for shooting a child, simply because of the writing in No Going Back having clumsily delivered the message that 'the end justify the means', regarding on how Kenny would eventually appear to be justified in taking a disabled and defenseless kid hostage, while regularly hurling verbal and physical abuse towards him at every opportunity he gets.
This is something that Life Is Strange would come up with, since the same game tries to justify or persuade the player to go easy on Chloe for wanting to steal from a disabled persons funds from Max's university to pay off a drug debt she is in.
Okay, lowkey, I got you and prink confused for a second.
I think the blame for that unfortunately goes to Nick Breckon.
He probably came back from wherever it was he was busy with during In Harm's Way and Amid the Ruins, got a rundown on everything Mr. Shorette, Mr. Ainsworth(?), Mr. Darin(?). and the guest writers had done in his absence, was told to include Jane in Luke's place, resolved & boot Luke and the Defector Trio at some point, and just did what he could to amend it with what he could salvage of his plans.
Whatever nailed down aspects of Arvo's continued character and arc was available at the time was simply shortchanged in the scramble.
Eh, Buricko was a dick and Arvo's priority was always his sister.
He's relatively close to being a Designated Villain, honestly.
Yeah, Season 2.5 was pretty disillusioning with that kinda shit..
Another thing about the poor writing. Anyone find it dumb how Arvo goes from being able to speak fluent English in episode 4, to acting like he can barely speak it in episode 5? Jane even says at one point, that he doesn't speak much English, when in fact she was one of the first characters to confront him, when he showed that he had a good grasp of the language.
Change good to decent.
At the very least, he wasn't on an emotional slope at the time, so he was more inclined to choose his english carefully yet quickly then compared to later.
If you ask me, it's just a lack of consistency with Season Two, like many other things; especially with that comment that Jane made.
That too.
It's often bi with these details.
As a fan of Arvo, no, he did things wrong, he may have had motives backing them up, but he did wrong. Unfortunately the whole medicine shenanigans are unclear due to never being able to talk to him, thus we cannot know the whole situation there, though it is very much clear Arvo's uncomfortable with the situation, even trying to get the others to stop when he notices baby AJ. Shooting Clementine, on the other hand, we have his motives, he mistakenly believed she shot his unarmed sister while she was trying to crawl away, while this is a sympathetic motive and I know some people would chose to shoot a character they believe to have shot another character they like when that was not the full situation, firing at Clementine is still attempted murder and a dumb thing to do in that situation at the time, so he did do wrong, but that's what I feel makes him an interesting character, with potential to grow in any future appearance.
S O U N D S L I K E A L O T O F
You forgot the rest.
Look up what an actual psycho is before judging someone wrongly
Well, as I said, my Clementine didn't rob him and Arvo brought this on himself.
He was only angry because little shit blames everything on Clem even if you try so hard to sympathize with him.
I don't judge him infact I think Kenny had every right to be mad at Arvo also saying someone's a psycho is another way of saying their mentally unstable which Kenny was, also I would never judge Kenny after everything he's been through and it didn't get any easier for him with everyone picking on him, sorry for the confusion
Its ok. Just that someone who is genuinely psychotic has no conscience whatsoever and we all know that Kenny clearly has one. Sorry to be defensive
Neither did the Saint Johns! No wants to live in a world where you can’t have some barbecue for supper.
I don't think that was barbecue.
Against an unarmed 11 year old?
An 11 year old who approached him from behind, could be hiding a weapon in her ugly jacket, and is most likely an equivalent scout/decoy for a potentially hostile group.
Not to different from himself, consequently.