AJ sees Marlon as a threat. If you actually think about it, in all the scenarios given to what to do with Marlon (forgiveness or exile) Marlon can still be a threat. Why?
Because he's a pathological liar.
There's absolutely no reason to believe what comes out of Marlon's mouth.
He has no problem in trading kids to raiders and wanting to execute Clem and AJ at the drop of a hat.
Anything he can weasel, he will.
Telltale even gave us like 9 different death animations of Marlon killing Clem/AJ.
Marlon goes from "Clem killed Brody" to "Clem collaborated with raiders" without flinching.
Yes it is!!! She KNEW why she killed him. She did it with REASON. AJ had no reasoning behind killing Marlon. When everyone stared at him he said "What? I saved one for myself". Clearly he didn't understand what was going on and acted without thinking
AJ sees Marlon as a threat. If you actually think about it, in all the scenarios given to what to do with Marlon (forgiveness or exile) Marl… moreon can still be a threat. Why?
Because he's a pathological liar.
There's absolutely no reason to believe what comes out of Marlon's mouth.
He has no problem in trading kids to raiders and wanting to execute Clem and AJ at the drop of a hat.
Anything he can weasel, he will.
Telltale even gave us like 9 different death animations of Marlon killing Clem/AJ.
Marlon goes from "Clem killed Brody" to "Clem collaborated with raiders" without flinching.
Just one constant lie to the next.
Being six doesn't excuse a kid from getting punished and its not psycho to punish someone for murder. I'm not saying to kill AJ or anything, but I am saying it'd be irresponsible to not punish him in some fashion.
Marlon isn't a pathological liar. That'd be someone who believes in their own lies and does it frequently. He's not even compulsive, he's just someone who did a bad thing and then lied about it.
AJ sees Marlon as a threat. If you actually think about it, in all the scenarios given to what to do with Marlon (forgiveness or exile) Marl… moreon can still be a threat. Why?
Because he's a pathological liar.
There's absolutely no reason to believe what comes out of Marlon's mouth.
He has no problem in trading kids to raiders and wanting to execute Clem and AJ at the drop of a hat.
Anything he can weasel, he will.
Telltale even gave us like 9 different death animations of Marlon killing Clem/AJ.
Marlon goes from "Clem killed Brody" to "Clem collaborated with raiders" without flinching.
Just one constant lie to the next.
yah me too. i hope it has more of an effect than in ANF. i remember thanking david for disarming the crazy woman with the gun but david still ended up blaming everyone for being "against him".
I hope Telltale gives us an option to praise or justify AJ's behavior.
I feel like scolding him for what he did will happen regardless of our input, butt it'd be an interesting twist.
What AJ is aware of -- is Marlon wielding a gun threatening people, and insinuating that his foster mom is a killer, and that she and him need to be dealt with.
Because he's a pathological liar.
The fact that you use that to defend AJ shooting Marlon when AJ himself wasn't aware of that is ju… morest....wow
He has no problem in trading kids to raiders and wanting to execute Clem and AJ at the drop of a hat.
Yeah, BEFORE the jig was up. He couldn't do any of that once everyone stepped in.
Marlon isn't a pathological liar. That'd be someone who believes in their own lies and does it frequently. He's not even compulsive, he's just someone who did a bad thing and then lied about it.
AJ is a child, he's not aware of a lot of things.
What AJ is aware of -- is Marlon wielding a gun threatening people, and insinuating that his foster mom is a killer, and that she and him need to be dealt with.
yah me too. i hope it has more of an effect than in ANF. i remember thanking david for disarming the crazy woman with the gun but david still ended up blaming everyone for being "against him".
He doesn't believe his own lies, he knows what he's saying is a lie. It'd be like someone telling another person they know karate when they actually don't but sincerely believe they do. He's not a compulsive liar because its natural for them and they do it in pretty much every conversation, big or small.
Marlon's one lie was discovered by Clem and in a panic he tried to cover everything up. He then fell a part and told the truth by the end. Both pathological and compulsive liars wouldn't do that, they cling to their lies and bury it beneath more lies. They will never admit to lying, even if caught red-handed or confronted with irrefutable proof.
Hmm...
He lies to everyone about what happened to Tenn's sister.
He deliberately PLANS to sell AJ and Clem off to the raiders.
Then… more when that plan is foiled due to killing Brodie he lies to everyone that Clem killed Brodie.
Then he insinuates Clem is a collaborator with the raiders, when he himself is ACTUALLY the collaborator.
Am I missing something?
"Ok kid, here's your options. 1, we take these 2 and you don't fight us about it and you and your girlfriend there get to walk away and go home safe and sound. 2, we get in a fight and probably end up killing all of you. We don't want that. We need bodies, not corpses. You make us fight and we will keep one of you alive and force you to tell us where you came from and we will go there and take everyone. Be smart, don't fight this. Just walk away."
I know that's terrible but I just pulled it out of my ass in 10 seconds. Point is, Marlon was put into a position where he had to let the twins go to save everyone else. Sometimes you get put into a no win scenario and all you can do is minimize your losses. If giving up the twins spared everyone else at the school, then he made the right call in the moment, no matter how terrible it may seem. Hell, you could think of it like getting bit on the hand. You can cut the arm off immediately and save your life, or you can refuse and die. Minimize your loss or lose everything.
Marlon implies he was too much of a bitch to stand against the raiders' demands.
Which implies he had an actual choice.
You think Clem would yield to the raider's demands, too?
The entire tragedy of Marlon is that despite aspiring to be this caring, protective leader, he lacks the actual typical traits that a typical leader would have, one of which is bravery. Marlon admits he's a coward.
He's a well written character but still deserves what's coming to him.
Also it's implied Marlon's been selling off kids by the boatload.
"the Kids die when they went out of the safe zone" = are actually the kids Marlon trades off to the raiders.
You have to be stupid to believe Marlon isn't slowly picking off every kid to the raiders because he's too bitchmade to take a stand against anything that impedes his personal survival.
It's actually kind of sick how Marlon masks the selling of children with " Our kids keep dying out there" to the school kids.
"Ok kid, here's your options. 1, we take these 2 and you don't fight us about it and you and your girlfriend there get to walk away and go h… moreome safe and sound. 2, we get in a fight and probably end up killing all of you. We don't want that. We need bodies, not corpses. You make us fight and we will keep one of you alive and force you to tell us where you came from and we will go there and take everyone. Be smart, don't fight this. Just walk away."
I know that's terrible but I just pulled it out of my ass in 10 seconds. Point is, Marlon was put into a position where he had to let the twins go to save everyone else. Sometimes you get put into a no win scenario and all you can do is minimize your losses. If giving up the twins spared everyone else at the school, then he made the right call in the moment, no matter how terrible it may seem. Hell, you could think of it like getting bit on the hand. You can cut the arm off immediately and save your life, or you can refuse and die. Minimize your loss or lose everything.
Also people tend to forget Marvin saved Clem and AJ, and he was really friendly towards them, yet again doesn't mean he should go unpunished, but we know he can shoot a bow, he has a trained dog, he is far from useless, him being dead is useless.
Also people tend to forget Marvin saved Clem and AJ, and he was really friendly towards them, yet again doesn't mean he should go unpunished, but we know he can shoot a bow, he has a trained dog, he is far from useless, him being dead is useless.
Also people tend to forget Marvin saved Clem and AJ, and he was really friendly towards them, yet again doesn't mean he should go unpunished, but we know he can shoot a bow, he has a trained dog, he is far from useless, him being dead is useless.
Some people are so willing to throw AJ under the bus due to a mistake he made. A fatal mistake, sure, but a mistake nonetheless. Growing up in a high-risk environment has instilled him with such a healthy dose of panic, high-alert, mistrust, and combat-readiness that it's no wonder he shot Marlon even after he dropped the gun and stood down. I mean, Squirt elbows people in the balls when they come up behind him!
Trust me you'd rather be a slave, when you're safe like that you don't realize how much you wanna live. Plus when there's life there's hope, when you're a slave you can still escape, when you are dead there is nothing you can do.
And I'm pretty sure he took Clem and AJ to save them and potentially for them to be useful to the community, I mean Marlon isn't a monster jeez, why does one team always have to be so extreme, those who defend Marlon think AJ deserve to die and those who defend AJ think Marlon deserves to die, nobody deserved to die end of story, they both need to be punished though, too late for Marlon but you get what I mean.
If Telltale actually gives the choice to shoot Aj or not I can’t wait to see the percentage difference be like 80% didn’t shoot to 20% shot lol. Y’all are the real psychos lmao.
Also people tend to forget Marvin saved Clem and AJ, and he was really friendly towards them, yet again doesn't mean he should go unpunished, but we know he can shoot a bow, he has a trained dog, he is far from useless, him being dead is useless.
Trust me you'd rather be a slave, when you're safe like that you don't realize how much you wanna live. Plus when there's life there's hope,… more when you're a slave you can still escape, when you are dead there is nothing you can do.
And I'm pretty sure he took Clem and AJ to save them and potentially for them to be useful to the community, I mean Marlon isn't a monster jeez, why does one team always have to be so extreme, those who defend Marlon think AJ deserve to die and those who defend AJ think Marlon deserves to die, nobody deserved to die end of story, they both need to be punished though, too late for Marlon but you get what I mean.
You make him out to be this pantomime villain when all he’s doing is trying to survive. We still don’t know why he’s trading with them; the alternative could potentially be far worse.
Nah, it's clear as day he's plotting from the beginning.
Marlon has a RELATIONSHIP with the raiders. He deals with them periodically. Thi… mores is not happenstance. This is controlled trade.
All the kids that "died" out of the safe zone that he's so supposedly traumatized by, are actually just kids he sold over to the raiders.
Given that Clem and AJ were newbies, it'd be a no brainer for Marlon to give them up should the raiders come knocking.
Brody only exacerbated his plans.
Interesting theory, so that would make Marlon way more evil than I thought he was. I also agree this isn't the first time he's sold someone to the raiders. He's probably been doing it for a while.
Nah, it's clear as day he's plotting from the beginning.
Marlon has a RELATIONSHIP with the raiders. He deals with them periodically. Thi… mores is not happenstance. This is controlled trade.
All the kids that "died" out of the safe zone that he's so supposedly traumatized by, are actually just kids he sold over to the raiders.
Given that Clem and AJ were newbies, it'd be a no brainer for Marlon to give them up should the raiders come knocking.
Brody only exacerbated his plans.
Have you ? Everybody wanna live it's our most basic instinct, even those who "wants to die" don't really wanna, they are just sick and see no other way out from the pain.
Jeez calm down, the kid is just trying to survive.
Obviously it's the first time since the twins are the first children to have "died" here, why you gotta make him so evil ? The world ain't just black and white, there is contrast and it ain't so easy. Stop trying to find the easy way and try to pin everything on a goddamn kid.
Nah, it's clear as day he's plotting from the beginning.
Marlon has a RELATIONSHIP with the raiders. He deals with them periodically. Thi… mores is not happenstance. This is controlled trade.
All the kids that "died" out of the safe zone that he's so supposedly traumatized by, are actually just kids he sold over to the raiders.
Given that Clem and AJ were newbies, it'd be a no brainer for Marlon to give them up should the raiders come knocking.
Brody only exacerbated his plans.
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AJ sees Marlon as a threat. If you actually think about it, in all the scenarios given to what to do with Marlon (forgiveness or exile) Marlon can still be a threat. Why?
Because he's a pathological liar.
There's absolutely no reason to believe what comes out of Marlon's mouth.
He has no problem in trading kids to raiders and wanting to execute Clem and AJ at the drop of a hat.
Anything he can weasel, he will.
Telltale even gave us like 9 different death animations of Marlon killing Clem/AJ.
Marlon goes from "Clem killed Brody" to "Clem collaborated with raiders" without flinching.
Just one constant lie to the next.
I hope Telltale gives us an option to praise or justify AJ's behavior.
I feel like scolding him for what he did will happen regardless of our input, butt it'd be an interesting twist.
The fact that you use that to defend AJ shooting Marlon when AJ himself wasn't aware of that is just....wow
Yeah, BEFORE the jig was up. He couldn't do any of that once everyone stepped in.
Being six doesn't excuse a kid from getting punished and its not psycho to punish someone for murder. I'm not saying to kill AJ or anything, but I am saying it'd be irresponsible to not punish him in some fashion.
Marlon isn't a pathological liar. That'd be someone who believes in their own lies and does it frequently. He's not even compulsive, he's just someone who did a bad thing and then lied about it.
yah me too. i hope it has more of an effect than in ANF. i remember thanking david for disarming the crazy woman with the gun but david still ended up blaming everyone for being "against him".
You just gave Telltale an idea. You monster lol
AJ is a child, he's not aware of a lot of things.
What AJ is aware of -- is Marlon wielding a gun threatening people, and insinuating that his foster mom is a killer, and that she and him need to be dealt with.
Hmm...
He lies to everyone about what happened to Tenn's sister.
He deliberately PLANS to sell AJ and Clem off to the raiders.
Then when that plan is foiled due to killing Brodie he lies to everyone that Clem killed Brodie.
Then he insinuates Clem is a collaborator with the raiders, when he himself is ACTUALLY the collaborator.
Am I missing something?
He would also be aware that, by sheer virtue of AJ getting his gun back, that Marlon no longer had it and couldn't shoot Clem.
Being a loyal brother to David has literally no affect on anything except maybe sorta the ending where he's alive.
Just straight up lazy writing from Telltale.
He doesn't believe his own lies, he knows what he's saying is a lie. It'd be like someone telling another person they know karate when they actually don't but sincerely believe they do. He's not a compulsive liar because its natural for them and they do it in pretty much every conversation, big or small.
Marlon's one lie was discovered by Clem and in a panic he tried to cover everything up. He then fell a part and told the truth by the end. Both pathological and compulsive liars wouldn't do that, they cling to their lies and bury it beneath more lies. They will never admit to lying, even if caught red-handed or confronted with irrefutable proof.
Ok, he's a gaslighter then.
"I'M PROTECTING YOU!"
*By selling off your siblings as slaves
"Ok kid, here's your options. 1, we take these 2 and you don't fight us about it and you and your girlfriend there get to walk away and go home safe and sound. 2, we get in a fight and probably end up killing all of you. We don't want that. We need bodies, not corpses. You make us fight and we will keep one of you alive and force you to tell us where you came from and we will go there and take everyone. Be smart, don't fight this. Just walk away."
I know that's terrible but I just pulled it out of my ass in 10 seconds. Point is, Marlon was put into a position where he had to let the twins go to save everyone else. Sometimes you get put into a no win scenario and all you can do is minimize your losses. If giving up the twins spared everyone else at the school, then he made the right call in the moment, no matter how terrible it may seem. Hell, you could think of it like getting bit on the hand. You can cut the arm off immediately and save your life, or you can refuse and die. Minimize your loss or lose everything.
Marlon implies he was too much of a bitch to stand against the raiders' demands.
Which implies he had an actual choice.
You think Clem would yield to the raider's demands, too?
The entire tragedy of Marlon is that despite aspiring to be this caring, protective leader, he lacks the actual typical traits that a typical leader would have, one of which is bravery. Marlon admits he's a coward.
He's a well written character but still deserves what's coming to him.
Also it's implied Marlon's been selling off kids by the boatload.
"the Kids die when they went out of the safe zone" = are actually the kids Marlon trades off to the raiders.
You have to be stupid to believe Marlon isn't slowly picking off every kid to the raiders because he's too bitchmade to take a stand against anything that impedes his personal survival.
It's actually kind of sick how Marlon masks the selling of children with " Our kids keep dying out there" to the school kids.
Also people tend to forget Marvin saved Clem and AJ, and he was really friendly towards them, yet again doesn't mean he should go unpunished, but we know he can shoot a bow, he has a trained dog, he is far from useless, him being dead is useless.
Can I just trade AJ for Tenn? I like Tenn way more than I ever have AJ.
The only reason he saved them is to trade them back to raiders and trust me i prefer to be dead than be slave (sexual or labor one)
*Marilyn
*Marlon.
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Oh okay.
From what I understand, that was only the plan sometime after dinner that final night.
Some people are so willing to throw AJ under the bus due to a mistake he made. A fatal mistake, sure, but a mistake nonetheless. Growing up in a high-risk environment has instilled him with such a healthy dose of panic, high-alert, mistrust, and combat-readiness that it's no wonder he shot Marlon even after he dropped the gun and stood down. I mean, Squirt elbows people in the balls when they come up behind him!
Trust me you'd rather be a slave, when you're safe like that you don't realize how much you wanna live. Plus when there's life there's hope, when you're a slave you can still escape, when you are dead there is nothing you can do.
And I'm pretty sure he took Clem and AJ to save them and potentially for them to be useful to the community, I mean Marlon isn't a monster jeez, why does one team always have to be so extreme, those who defend Marlon think AJ deserve to die and those who defend AJ think Marlon deserves to die, nobody deserved to die end of story, they both need to be punished though, too late for Marlon but you get what I mean.
If Telltale actually gives the choice to shoot Aj or not I can’t wait to see the percentage difference be like 80% didn’t shoot to 20% shot lol. Y’all are the real psychos lmao.
He saves them because he sees Clem and AJ as perfect bargaining chips.
Replaying the episode everything about Marlon makes sense.
So you've personally been a slave before?
Nah, it's clear as day he's plotting from the beginning.
Marlon has a RELATIONSHIP with the raiders. He deals with them periodically. This is not happenstance. This is controlled trade.
All the kids that "died" out of the safe zone that he's so supposedly traumatized by, are actually just kids he sold over to the raiders.
Given that Clem and AJ were newbies, it'd be a no brainer for Marlon to give them up should the raiders come knocking.
Brody only exacerbated his plans.
You make him out to be this pantomime villain when all he’s doing is trying to survive. We still don’t know why he’s trading with them; the alternative could potentially be far worse.
Interesting theory, so that would make Marlon way more evil than I thought he was. I also agree this isn't the first time he's sold someone to the raiders. He's probably been doing it for a while.
Have you ? Everybody wanna live it's our most basic instinct, even those who "wants to die" don't really wanna, they are just sick and see no other way out from the pain.
Jeez calm down, the kid is just trying to survive.
Obviously it's the first time since the twins are the first children to have "died" here, why you gotta make him so evil ? The world ain't just black and white, there is contrast and it ain't so easy. Stop trying to find the easy way and try to pin everything on a goddamn kid.