S2 Clem Vs. TFS AJ
Clem:
- 3 years in the Apocalypse
- kicked down a door
- been shot without medical care and was funcntional
- able to carry a grown man
Able to kill walker with ease
AJborn in the Apocalypse
- Stonecold killer
- beat down a grown man with a Crowbar
- was shot
In my opionion, Aj is a better survivor than a season 2 Clem. I think if it came to a 1v1 he would win. When it comes to surviving longer I think Aj would survive the longest.
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AJ is just a little psycho with a gun, take away the gun and he aint shit.
S2 Clem is a way better survivor than AJ, I think you know all the shit she had to do in S1 and S2 and what has Aj done by himself ?
Well, obviously.
For better or worse, AJ definitely breathes some of that "the strong will prosper" shit.
AJ's life revolves around survival & Clem. It's all he knows. I channel my inner Grimes when AJ and Clem speak to guide em.
When did this happen??? Sorry I only know this for Kenny.
I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure this happens when you let AJ have "dibs" on Abel.
It was a poker.
And it's during the fight with Abel up stairs.
Ohh yeah okay, this is what I was thinking. Wasn't that a firepoker though? Screw abel and those bible cigarettes lol.
Yep I was almost for sure it was a firepoker
Aj takes out walkers as well. In couple failed attempts he is seen stabbing walkers and taking them out. without the gun, he is just as capable of defending himself as S2 Clem.
I have to strongly disagree. AJ would not survive what Clem went threw in season 2.
If you replaced Aj with Clem for season 2, Aj would've broken into the house like Clem does in episode 1. Aj would've not been emphatic to Bonnie in episode 2, would've been more respected by Carver, because of his strong will; would've robbed Arvo. I think that he would've shot Arvo, Mike, and Bonnie in the gun situation when they were stealing their stuff. There would be no Kenny vs Jane because Jane would not have a attachment to Aj so she would've parted ways. Kenny and AJ would've just went to Wellington with baby x. And the Wellington ending would be the only ending. less people would die.
Going down that Savior path. Or is he too much for Negan?
I don't think you can compare AJ taking out a couple of walker to all the shit Clem had to do.
wow, that`s so smart that you have me mindblown right now
If you replace AJ white Clem in season 2 he would've been dead in the woods with christa. He has no social skills or capability to read the situation, he probably would've started threatening the guys that attack them and getting them both killed instead of sneaking away.
If he did do as Clem an run he never would've been able to fight of Winston.
If he did he would have drowned because, almost garantine he can't swim.
If he did he probably to small and physically weak to fight of Sam.
If he did he has to social skills, he probably would have threaten the Cabin group or try to kill them before sneaking would've been an option for him. (there's a reason because Clem in season 4 needs to remind him of bacic shit so often)
Even if they made it to Carvers camp he would never been able to do any of the shit clem did even if he wants to he is just to small (and too stupid) for that.
Do you think Jane would listen to 5 year old to shoot someone? She's not even listens to Clem.
Strong will isn't the same to being stupid and have no social skills.
Clem had alot of plot armor. Aj with the same treatment can do the same thing.
What about season 3, Lingard basically declared AJ as a lost cause but then he magically was better than he ever been, even if you didn't inject him with the medicine.
I think it fair to say AJ has his fair share of plott armor.
I was going to say, S2 Clem is not realistic in the slightest with the way she was 10x more competent than the adults at almost every turn. Clem was basically a savant prodigy of the post-apocalypse. The only thing she couldn't do was boss other people around due to being a child.
Atleast with AJ, it makes narrative sense. He's a hardened survivor since he came out the womb.
AJ has at least as much plot armor bullshit as Clem does. If you want to be realistic, AJ would be dead within the first 2 weeks from when he was born. In a realistic scenario no baby would have survived 9 days without food like he did in the end of season 2.
I think you meant if you replaced Clem with Aj.
If you replaced Aj with Clem for season 2...
...Clem would be trapped in Rebecca's uterus for most of it.
Oh the horror.
Sorry, sorry, I'll see myself out.
Clem would beat his ass, not only she's bigger and stronger physically than the boy who we've never seen to perform any kind of combat with no weapons, when Clem on S2 could defend herself from Winston with no weapons at her disposal. But also, the only thing AJ has over Clementine is will to kill.
If they have a 1v1 with no weapons, Clem could probably have no problems stopping him, not killing him maybe, but she's shown a lot more of ability to find things around her and using the place where a fight is happening to her advantage. She still beats him in how strong they are.
If we're talking about weapons, well, obviously AJ would have his Revolver, but let's not forget Clem also has a gun, and she's shown she's better at shooting while taking cover.
Clem absolutely wins in a 1v1 with no weapons, but if both have guns, it would be more about who can shoot quicker and more accurately
AJ has made ONE shot. Yes he nailed it but the target was standing still and not hard to shot at all. He also hesitates to shot abel twice and the walker in the car when they are about to crash.
On the other hand clem has had plenty of experience shooting walkers and people. Depending on how you play in season 2 Clem would not hesitate to shoot AJ.
Conclusion AJ has no chance in winning over Clem in a fair fight at all.
Oh wow, that mental image is somethin.
When was it implied AJ was never fed?
End of season 2 Kenny says they maby got one day of food left for AJ. then they do a 9 day timeskip right after the Kenny and Jane fight no matter what you do, and there is no sign of them getting any supplies under the timeskip because they are in the middle of nowhere and babyformela iset the easiest to find.
S2 clem
physically she is stronger and show great feats of strength for a girl her age she was able to take down door and over power walkers who are bigger than her that's is more than enough for her crush aj.
aj had the advantage of the endurance he took a shotgun shot and was able to keep running and stay Conscious clem got shot by a rifle and lost Conscious i think if clem got beat up first she will lose for her lack of endurance clem is weak when it come to physical abuse.
aj is a mindless psycho if he got the go ahead over clem he will rage his way out and kill her but S2 clem stoic and too smart for a girl at her age she wont let aj get the go a head and will make the smart actions that will lower AJ's endurance and than kill him.
The will to kill is a huge advantage in a 1v1. he's ruthless.