Is Luke Underrated?

Luke in Season 3, is apart of the story builder but hasn't been mentioned in that Season. Clem in season 2 has some sort of crush on him or some kind of brotherly relation with him. I would even go as far saying that she has more of a bound with Luke then Javi because she spends a month with Luke vs 2 days with Javi. Yet, Season 4 made no mentions of him.

Has Telltale forgotten about Luke?

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  • give me likes

    Luke bad

  • ok.

    MrGraffio posted: »

    give me likes

  • My feelings towards him are lukewarm.

    Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all week.

  • edited October 2018

    Not sure what the correlation is here, but yeah, somewhat?

    Luke, probably the most egregious of any Cabin Group member alongside Sarah, also kinda has the problem of not really getting much in the way of story arc resolution or hard character work, though he does manage to get something in that vain in No Going Back, which is probably & partially thanks to Nick Breckon coming back.

  • Omids_catOmids_cat Banned
    edited October 2018

    I love luke. One of my fav characters in the series.
    Sad fact: originally, luke wasnt supposed to die, but thanks yo creepyass lukentine shippers, the devs were forced to kill him.

  • Why do you like Sarah? I don't get it.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Not sure what the correlation is here, but yeah, somewhat? Luke, probably the most egregious of any Cabin Group member alongside Sarah, a

  • Gibmelikesalsopliz;-;thenkchu

    MrGraffio posted: »

    give me likes

  • Actually, I'm semi-sure he would've been inherently determinant had the gameplan for the finale not shifted at the eleventh hour.

    Omids_cat posted: »

    I love luke. One of my fav characters in the series. Sad fact: originally, luke wasnt supposed to die, but thanks yo creepyass lukentine shippers, the devs were forced to kill him.

  • im just gonna say this: If the fight at the end was Luke and Kenny then i would not have even hesitated to pull the trigger.

  • Since when this community turned to YouTube cancer?

    MrGraffio posted: »

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  • Why dose everyone have the hate on Luke, he’s a very nice person.

  • No they killed him because Job J Stauffer teased the fucking pizza or ice cream choice for no reason and everyone immediately figured out the final choice would be Luke or Kenny.

    Omids_cat posted: »

    I love luke. One of my fav characters in the series. Sad fact: originally, luke wasnt supposed to die, but thanks yo creepyass lukentine shippers, the devs were forced to kill him.

  • After what happened to him. I say yes he is underrated, more like 100 meters deep down underrated.

  • Back in the day he was overrated if you ask me. I don't hate him but when replaying s2 I didn't like him either. Nick, who was his best friend for so many years, was in a really depressive state after losing both his mum and his uncle. So instead checking up on his friend, he brushes him off and asks an 11 year old girl to keep an eye out on him.

    Other than that and when he slept with Jane, I could see why he was such a likable character but the way the fandom was obsessive with him low-key put me off him.

  • edited October 2018

    He was a good guy, but not much depth other than being that one honest to god good guy who was good. Still liked him a lot, especially in episode 2

  • The fanbase can be really weird and creepy sometimes.

    Omids_cat posted: »

    I love luke. One of my fav characters in the series. Sad fact: originally, luke wasnt supposed to die, but thanks yo creepyass lukentine shippers, the devs were forced to kill him.

  • Nick, who was his best friend for so many years, was in a really depressive state after losing both his mum and his uncle. So instead checking up on his friend, he brushes him off and asks an 11 year old girl to keep an eye out on him.

    He was mainly trying to focus on getting everyone to asylum away from Carver and just asked Clementine to help him keep track of both on the side.
    Still then, he did make efforts to give Nick some easy time off and tried to talk it through with him at least once.

    the way the fandom was obsessive with him low-key put me off him.

    Hm...where have I heard that before?

    lottii-lu posted: »

    Back in the day he was overrated if you ask me. I don't hate him but when replaying s2 I didn't like him either. Nick, who was his best frie

  • Luke was a nice guy, but that was pretty much it. And there wasn't really anything he did that affected Clementine on a major scale. And because it ended up being Jane vs Kenny in the end instead of the original Luke vs. Kenny, he has even less significance.

  • I liked Luke, he genuinely cared for Clem and he was a good guy. If you help him in the frozen lake he basically sacrifices himself to save Clem, he didn't deserve to die like that, I think it was one of the worst death in this series. Also he's still probably "swimming" underwater as an undead for a very long time.

  • He was originally intended to be a moral compass and pseudo-protege to her much like she was Lee, but they decided to [initially] go with the awkward big brother angle instead.
    He does reinforce trying to do what's right and looking out for the group, among a few other values in the Story Builder or whatever.

    @Gauss99 Also he's still probably "swimming" underwater as an undead for a very long time.

    Don't you kinda need the infected oxygen for that to happen though?

    Luke was a nice guy, but that was pretty much it. And there wasn't really anything he did that affected Clementine on a major scale. And bec

  • That's kinda redundant though. We don't need another Lee. I thought the whole point of the second season was application of the lessons taught, not a retread of the mentor figure.

    DabigRG posted: »

    He was originally intended to be a moral compass and pseudo-protege to her much like she was Lee, but they decided to [initially] go with th

  • edited October 2018

    When someone dies, he/she becomes an undead. Everyone seems to be already infected by this disease. So no matter if there's oxygen or not, Luke was already infected like everyone else so when he died, he turned unless his brain gets destroyed.

    DabigRG posted: »

    He was originally intended to be a moral compass and pseudo-protege to her much like she was Lee, but they decided to [initially] go with th

  • I don't think he's underrated or overrated. He kinda gets the acclaim he deserves. He was a important role and he gets talked about. I mean Cluke did exist unfortunately :( People do like Luke. I'd say Nick is even more underated than Luke. Both get the props they deserve. As good role playing characters but not main roles and they get talked about enough i'd say.

  • edited October 2018

    No, Clementine was gonna be the Lee.

    @ZombieKenny I'd say Nick is even more underated than Luke. Both get the props they deserve. As good role playing characters but not main roles and they get talked about enough i'd say.

    What's weird is that TVTropes used to have him as both a Scrappy and an Ensemble Darkhorse, but recently removed the latter, for some reason.

    That's kinda redundant though. We don't need another Lee. I thought the whole point of the second season was application of the lessons taught, not a retread of the mentor figure.

  • edited October 2018

    Okay, I get what you mean now. At first Clementine was a moral compass for Lee and you're saying for Season Two, Luke was supposed to be that for Clementine.

    But I still think that angle fails because Luke... can be stupid. Like, really stupid.

    "Hey guys, even though a huge herd is coming to eat us all tonight, let's just wait some other night to go through with the plan!"

    "Hey guys, there's a blizzard coming! Let's take a couple of days off so Rebecca can recover!"

    Yeah, I know Rebecca's health is a thing too, but so is not freezing our asses off before we make any progress! Also screw them for writing out the small town/church they were originally alluding to.

    Also, a truly moral person wouldn't just ditch their group. Yeah, we still got no explanation for why Luke ditched Kenny back at the ski lodge.

    DabigRG posted: »

    No, Clementine was gonna be the Lee. @ZombieKenny I'd say Nick is even more underated than Luke. Both get the props they deserve. As

  • What do you mean with the "pizza or ice cream choice"?

    No they killed him because Job J Stauffer teased the fucking pizza or ice cream choice for no reason and everyone immediately figured out the final choice would be Luke or Kenny.

  • Okay, I get what you mean now. At first Clementine was a moral compass for Lee and you're saying for Season Two, Luke was supposed to be that for Clementine.

    Essentially. They decided to change that in favor of making Luke even more of a main character a while after that inception, though.

    But I still think that angle fails because Luke... can be stupid. Like, really stupid.

    I'd say something more akin to uncertain, irresolute, or ironically somewhat reckless, but yeah, he didn't always think things all the way through.

    "Hey guys, even though a huge herd is coming to eat us all tonight, let's just wait some other night to go through with the plan!"

    Oops.

    Also screw them for writing out the small town/church they were originally alluding to.

    To be fair, I think it's safe to say that was another example of the writers making up & adding stuff as they went along.

    Also, a truly moral person wouldn't just ditch their group. Yeah, we still got no explanation for why Luke ditched Kenny back at the ski lodge.

    At the risk of exposing more inconsistent writing, Kenny himself explains it if you sided with Rebecca and snuck out:
    Where's Luke?
    He was whining something or other, so I told him to take a hike.

    @Thebatman377 What do you mean with the "pizza or ice cream choice"?

    There was a little list of the episode titles with cute little descriptors that was released on Twitter(?) during Season 2. "Pizza or Ice Cream" was next to No Going Back, while Amid the Ruins was "Sunshine and Rainbows," for example.

    Okay, I get what you mean now. At first Clementine was a moral compass for Lee and you're saying for Season Two, Luke was supposed to be tha

  • I know this has been said plenty of times, but Luke was such a flake.

    "Don't worry, if you fall I'll catch you - probably." Pretty much sums up his character. He's such a little chicken shit at times, and then at others, he just can't commit.

    "Ok, I know this is partially my fault; I stole some food and got caught" What do you mean PARTIALLY? Of course it's your fault!

    "Look I'm sorry okay, but I needed it" The classic "I'm sorry but not really" excuse.

    "Well you better be fine. Because I ain't carrying you no more with that bite on your arm" Dude, this ain't 28 days later. You don't turn on a dime. It happens slowly.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Okay, I get what you mean now. At first Clementine was a moral compass for Lee and you're saying for Season Two, Luke was supposed to be tha

  • At the risk of exposing more inconsistent writing, Kenny himself explains it if you sided with Rebecca and snuck out:
    Where's Luke?
    He was whining something or other, so I told him to take a hike.

    Oh yeah, I remember that, but like, really? Did Kenny hurt his feelings that bad? I can just imagine Luke sulking off like some little kid after a "scolding" from Kenny.

  • edited October 2018

    He's such a little chicken shit at times, and then at others, he just can't commit.

    I'd say both of those together make up half of his demeanor, anyway.

    "Look I'm sorry okay, but I needed it" The classic "I'm sorry but not really" excuse.

    I don't know if I'd go quite that far with it, but him unambiguously choosing himself for once was the whole point of that.

    "Well you better be fine. Because I ain't carrying you no more with that bite on your arm" Dude, this ain't 28 days later. You don't turn on a dime. It happens slowly.

    ...Wait, what?
    (That ended up funny, though)

    Oh yeah, I remember that, but like, really? Did Kenny hurt his feelings that bad? I can just imagine Luke sulking off like some little kid after a "scolding" from Kenny.

    I mean, if you wanna laugh at it, sure, but the implication is that they got into argument and he left when Kenny suggested it.
    I personally think it may have been about either the others fighting the walkers or Carver likely being on their heels and him going to try to do something when he saw the actual situation and how it gradually played out.

    I know this has been said plenty of times, but Luke was such a flake. "Don't worry, if you fall I'll catch you - probably." Pretty much s

  • "Well you better be fine. Because I ain't carrying you no more with that bite on your arm". Dude, this ain't 28 Days Later. You don't turn on a dime. It happens slowly.

    ...Wait, what?
    (That ended up funny, though)

    Have you ever seen 28 Days Later? Similar premise (kinda) but when you're infected there, you turn immediately. In Walking Dead, you get sick and die, but it's a slower deterioration. It takes a day at the very least.

    So for Luke to just immediately drop Clementine and then whine about it:

    Pete: Why am I the one? [to check the bite]
    Luke: Because I don't wanna get my face bitten off!

    just makes him look like an unnecessary scaredy-cat. I'm not saying he has to score every brownie point with Clementine, but don't act like a little bitch.

    DabigRG posted: »

    He's such a little chicken shit at times, and then at others, he just can't commit. I'd say both of those together make up half of h

  • Huh. Okay.

    So for Luke to just immediately drop Clementine and then whine about it:

    Pete: Why am I the one? [to check the bite]
    Luke: Because I don't wanna get my face bitten off!

    just makes him look like an unnecessary scaredy-cat. I'm not saying he has to score every brownie point with Clementine, but don't act like a little bitch.

    The idea was that he's still a bit shaken up and burned over the last time they took in a bite victim.

    "Well you better be fine. Because I ain't carrying you no more with that bite on your arm". Dude, this ain't 28 Days Later. You don't turn o

  • Luke was a victim of the Kenny crutch. The writers were lazy and instead of taking time to build up the cabin group they decided...hey we have Kenny and people love Kenny...we can just dispose of the cabin group and saddle Clem with a baby cause something something future season.

    When Kenny appeared zero fucks were given by the writers about the cabin group. And then because of the Luke thing...they get Jane to fight Kenny...now Jane...who up to the point they are at the cabin...is insisting that Clem help Kenny. Last second change to someone who hates Kenny is just bad writing.

    S2 had so many missed opportunities...such as giving Sarah a chance to grow...taming Jane...letting Nick find his place. The second half of the season was an epic fail...except for when they were setting around the fire sharing the rum and being human.

  • Now you've got me thinking that the next time the group unwinds, Clem should take charge. "Let me show you how I unwind." As Clem pulls out a bottle of rum.

    Luke was a victim of the Kenny crutch. The writers were lazy and instead of taking time to build up the cabin group they decided...hey we h

  • Yeah, that didn't exactly help.

    now Jane...who up to the point they are at the cabin

    :confused:

    taming Jane

    Oooooh myyy...!

    Luke was a victim of the Kenny crutch. The writers were lazy and instead of taking time to build up the cabin group they decided...hey we h

  • Oooooh myyy...

    You know making her more of a team player and giving a damn about people like Sarah.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Yeah, that didn't exactly help. now Jane...who up to the point they are at the cabin taming Jane Oooooh myyy...!

  • I, believe me honey, I know. :sweat_smile: I just could've resist.

    Oooooh myyy... You know making her more of a team player and giving a damn about people like Sarah.

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