Oh and you know this for a fact do you? A sense of relief punching something? Done it before have you? Lol it would more likely hurt your hand than make you feel better. Sorry but in my eyes being angry does not make you have a sense of relief at the same time and even if it did, i'm not agreeing with your theory saying Kenny "enjoyed" it. You don't know me or when ive got angry and when that has happened I certainly have never felt happy about it taking my aggression out on something. That is how i see and think on situations and you need to accept that and to please stop making it seem like i am wrong when neither you or me are because (and i'll say it again) it is our differences of opinion.
Nothing you ever say will make me agree with you on anything you've said. In fact every post i've seen from you has been negative. It seems like no one here can have a discussion with you because you think you are always right and others are wrong when the fact of the matter is there is no right or wrong. End of story. Enjoy the rest of your Christmas holiday sir/madam
well it felt like you havent, since you dont even know what people feel when they punch something in anger. A sense of relief and you're saying thats not enjoyable?
Thanks, try telling that to zykelator! Talk about a guy/girl who argues non stop! Why can't everyone on this board just respect opinions? No one has to agree/accept them but should be respectful
No, you are fine. We disagree on things but you dont personally attack people, which I appreciate. I understand people can get heated and s… moreay things they probably shouldnt. I guess its a credit to these series that they can get people so emotionally invested, but fans should remember that they are talking to real people behind these posts, you know?
Like i said no one will ever know if he was alive or dead. They made it ambiguous deliberately. That's fine you don't think he was turning but i believe there was a chance he was or that he was dead and the mouth twitching was an after death reaction because the body does that when you die but there is no right or wrong answer on this. Alive or dead it is never answeree. I think its great how we are all still discussing this after all these years!
Well we don't know for sure, as posted above it's ambiguous, I doubt it would be a sign of turning since his mouth only moves(As far as I can tell) if you do the 4 chest presses in time.
There is no part anywhere in the game where he can deliberately slap Clementine yet you say depending on choices he can?
Actually he hit her instead of slapping. My bad. Ignore that as a sleepy comment.
Also he never "forces" her to go to Wellington, they talk in the car about it, Clem can disagree.
Even if you clearly let him know that you think its a bad idea and you dont want to go there, after she wakes up, they are going north and Kenny says theres no arguing about where the car is going. How is that not forcing her to go there?
and it's your opinion that it's a suicide trip
So would you say that "playing russian roulette is dangerous" is just an opinion? They had no definite proof of that places existance and had no idea where exactly it was, they werent properly prepared and you say it wasnt suicidal? Kenny was desperate and he put all his hopes on Wellington. If you dont agree with that, then you are just delusional.
Sarita had just died, he was angry, emotions take over when your angry (you ever been angry lol?), Mike was also running away with Kenny yet you don't critiscise him do you! Or Luke/Nick/Bonnie, all who never tried to look after her but people choose to ignore this and blame just Kenny.
I thought we were talking about Kenny, not rest of the group.
He forced her to take the radio, this is true and that was because she was the only one he trusted. He didn't have to force her no but what did Kenny do after the plan got discovered? He grabbed the radio off Clem and took the blame for it, getting his eye bashed in, in the process. I don't recall Jane or anyone else taking the blame to protect Clem?
So trusting someone justifies action to put them in danger? Ok. Why would she take a blame for someone she doesnt even care about? And others were being selfish also, but they werent the ones making Clementine take that radio in the first place.
he said "i'll fucking kill you"after the second time she swung the knife at him outside the building (play the game again and see). Jane was at this point trying to kill him and in my opinion that was the point where Kenny and Jane just went too far because as i said, i think it started out just as a fight until Jane swung the knife at him.
He said "you're fucking dead" after Kenny goes down the first time inside and Jane puches him on the ground. I think it turned to worse the moment Kenny tried to charge at Jane while she on ground after Kenny/Clementine pushes her on ground the first time. If she didnt use the knife, kenny couldve just went on top of her and hit/strangle her.
Its only your opinion that all opinions are eqal, because they are not.
There is no part anywhere in the game where he can deliberately slap Clementine yet you say depending on choices he can? Not true. Please sh… moreow me proof of this? Also he never "forces" her to go to Wellington, they talk in the car about it, Clem can disagree. He never says "your going there whether you like it or not", and it's your opinion that it's a suicide trip, what is to say they wouldn't have found Wellington by a stroke of luck? But yeah going to Howe's was the better option and i told you I agreed with that but again saying suicide trip is just an opinion.
Sarita had just died, he was angry, emotions take over when your angry (you ever been angry lol?), Mike was also running away with Kenny yet you don't critiscise him do you! Or Luke/Nick/Bonnie, all who never tried to look after her but people choose to ignore this and blame just Kenny.
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He ACCIDENTALLY hits her which is DETERMINENT by the way and then he stops after realising he elbowed her. I assume that is the scene you are referring to because there is no scene in the game where he "deliberately" hits her and i made that clear in my last post. Of course you probably think it was deliberate. Point is it is a determinant choice for goodness sake and in my game i didn't get accidentally hit.
There is no dialogue where Kenny says "your going no matter what" and the fact hes driving when the argument about where to go is happening there and then doesn't even give the players the option for her to say no. That is how the episode was made like it or not. You are just finding this a petty point to be negative about Kenny yet if it was Jane forcing Clem you would agree with it because you like her and you hate Kenny and just want to point out everything negative about him yet you think its alright for her to start riling him up causing an argument, risking the car to crash putting the baby and Clem in danger.
Yes that's it insult me and call me delusional! It's funny that determinantly they find Wellington anyway so the suicide mission wasn't one anyway IF THE PLAYER CHOOSES THAT ENDING! The whole of episode 5 was a suicide mission if you think about it, they had no proper place to stay, low on food, water. But because its KENNY and his ideas you call it suicide. Stop bashing my opinion just because you can't except that my opinions are different to yours. And anyway, I actually said i AGREED that going to Howe's was the better option.
Yes we were talking about Kenny and the whole herd thing but I pointed out that you didn't blame Mike or Bonnie, Luke or Nick leaving Clem behind but just because you don't like Kenny you soley blame him for it so im giving you my opinion that he shouldn't be soley blamed for that.
Are you forgetting that it was actually Luke that asked Clem to get the radio? But here you are attacking Kenny because he was making the plan happen when no one else would speak up despite the risk which i actually agreed with you on! But if Clem hadn't got the radio and someone else had done it, the risk would still be there and if no one did anything they would all still be prisoners. There would be no gameplay either if she hadn't done it, dont forget that. So what would you have done if you were a prisoner in that position eh? Nothing right? Because you won't take risks! Also when the group wanted Clem to turn on the PA system, I suppose that wasn't forced because everyone else wanted her to do it? Oh but when it's Kenny doing it, immediately you have to attack him for it! Lol.
And when Kenny took the blame for the radio, yeah no one else took the blame because (oh wait for it, here comes my OPINION lol) it shows that none of them care as much about Clem as Kenny did and i really don't care who disagrees, that's how i see it and that's my opinion.
Well once again i disagree that the Jane/Kenny fight got worse at what you said. When she slashed the knife at him is in "my opinion" when it got extremely personal between both of them. If Clem tried to get in between them, Jane or Kenny determinately pushes Clem to the ground and then Jane is the one who charges at Kenny and he throws her to the ground. It all went to shit then and both characters lost control of themselves because each tried to kill the other.
And finally, all opinions are equal because an opinion is not a fact. An opinion is one's own thoughts on a subject that can differ to others but a fact is something that is a definite thing like for example, every living thing will one day die in life. That's a fact. What i am trying to state is that in a lot of your posts you are making things sound like they are a fact about Kenny or anything else you discuss, but there are no facts. It is a GAME and we as players choose how we want the game to play out.
Now seriously sir/madam, i don't wish to waste anymore of my Christmas holiday arguing with you. We agree to disagree on this and i respect your opinions so please respect mine. Lets leave it at that and maybe we'll actually discuss other things and be more civil.
There is no part anywhere in the game where he can deliberately slap Clementine yet you say depending on choices he can?
Actually he… more hit her instead of slapping. My bad. Ignore that as a sleepy comment.
Also he never "forces" her to go to Wellington, they talk in the car about it, Clem can disagree.
Even if you clearly let him know that you think its a bad idea and you dont want to go there, after she wakes up, they are going north and Kenny says theres no arguing about where the car is going. How is that not forcing her to go there?
and it's your opinion that it's a suicide trip
So would you say that "playing russian roulette is dangerous" is just an opinion? They had no definite proof of that places existance and had no idea where exactly it was, they werent properly prepared and you say it wasnt suicidal? Kenny was desperate and he put all his hopes on Wellington. If you dont agree with that, then you ar… [view original content]
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Oh and you know this for a fact do you? A sense of relief punching something? Done it before have you? Lol it would more likely hurt your hand than make you feel better. Sorry but in my eyes being angry does not make you have a sense of relief at the same time and even if it did, i'm not agreeing with your theory saying Kenny "enjoyed" it. You don't know me or when ive got angry and when that has happened I certainly have never felt happy about it taking my aggression out on something. That is how i see and think on situations and you need to accept that and to please stop making it seem like i am wrong when neither you or me are because (and i'll say it again) it is our differences of opinion.
Nothing you ever say will make me agree with you on anything you've said. In fact every post i've seen from you has been negative. It seems like no one here can have a discussion with you because you think you are always right and others are wrong when the fact of the matter is there is no right or wrong. End of story. Enjoy the rest of your Christmas holiday sir/madam
Thanks, try telling that to zykelator! Talk about a guy/girl who argues non stop! Why can't everyone on this board just respect opinions? No one has to agree/accept them but should be respectful
Keep it civil guys, otherwise this thread will be locked.
Like i said no one will ever know if he was alive or dead. They made it ambiguous deliberately. That's fine you don't think he was turning but i believe there was a chance he was or that he was dead and the mouth twitching was an after death reaction because the body does that when you die but there is no right or wrong answer on this. Alive or dead it is never answeree. I think its great how we are all still discussing this after all these years!
Actually he hit her instead of slapping. My bad. Ignore that as a sleepy comment.
Even if you clearly let him know that you think its a bad idea and you dont want to go there, after she wakes up, they are going north and Kenny says theres no arguing about where the car is going. How is that not forcing her to go there?
So would you say that "playing russian roulette is dangerous" is just an opinion? They had no definite proof of that places existance and had no idea where exactly it was, they werent properly prepared and you say it wasnt suicidal? Kenny was desperate and he put all his hopes on Wellington. If you dont agree with that, then you are just delusional.
I thought we were talking about Kenny, not rest of the group.
So trusting someone justifies action to put them in danger? Ok. Why would she take a blame for someone she doesnt even care about? And others were being selfish also, but they werent the ones making Clementine take that radio in the first place.
He said "you're fucking dead" after Kenny goes down the first time inside and Jane puches him on the ground. I think it turned to worse the moment Kenny tried to charge at Jane while she on ground after Kenny/Clementine pushes her on ground the first time. If she didnt use the knife, kenny couldve just went on top of her and hit/strangle her.
Its only your opinion that all opinions are eqal, because they are not.
Lol here we go again!
He ACCIDENTALLY hits her which is DETERMINENT by the way and then he stops after realising he elbowed her. I assume that is the scene you are referring to because there is no scene in the game where he "deliberately" hits her and i made that clear in my last post. Of course you probably think it was deliberate. Point is it is a determinant choice for goodness sake and in my game i didn't get accidentally hit.
There is no dialogue where Kenny says "your going no matter what" and the fact hes driving when the argument about where to go is happening there and then doesn't even give the players the option for her to say no. That is how the episode was made like it or not. You are just finding this a petty point to be negative about Kenny yet if it was Jane forcing Clem you would agree with it because you like her and you hate Kenny and just want to point out everything negative about him yet you think its alright for her to start riling him up causing an argument, risking the car to crash putting the baby and Clem in danger.
Yes that's it insult me and call me delusional! It's funny that determinantly they find Wellington anyway so the suicide mission wasn't one anyway IF THE PLAYER CHOOSES THAT ENDING! The whole of episode 5 was a suicide mission if you think about it, they had no proper place to stay, low on food, water. But because its KENNY and his ideas you call it suicide. Stop bashing my opinion just because you can't except that my opinions are different to yours. And anyway, I actually said i AGREED that going to Howe's was the better option.
Yes we were talking about Kenny and the whole herd thing but I pointed out that you didn't blame Mike or Bonnie, Luke or Nick leaving Clem behind but just because you don't like Kenny you soley blame him for it so im giving you my opinion that he shouldn't be soley blamed for that.
Are you forgetting that it was actually Luke that asked Clem to get the radio? But here you are attacking Kenny because he was making the plan happen when no one else would speak up despite the risk which i actually agreed with you on! But if Clem hadn't got the radio and someone else had done it, the risk would still be there and if no one did anything they would all still be prisoners. There would be no gameplay either if she hadn't done it, dont forget that. So what would you have done if you were a prisoner in that position eh? Nothing right? Because you won't take risks! Also when the group wanted Clem to turn on the PA system, I suppose that wasn't forced because everyone else wanted her to do it? Oh but when it's Kenny doing it, immediately you have to attack him for it! Lol.
And when Kenny took the blame for the radio, yeah no one else took the blame because (oh wait for it, here comes my OPINION lol) it shows that none of them care as much about Clem as Kenny did and i really don't care who disagrees, that's how i see it and that's my opinion.
Well once again i disagree that the Jane/Kenny fight got worse at what you said. When she slashed the knife at him is in "my opinion" when it got extremely personal between both of them. If Clem tried to get in between them, Jane or Kenny determinately pushes Clem to the ground and then Jane is the one who charges at Kenny and he throws her to the ground. It all went to shit then and both characters lost control of themselves because each tried to kill the other.
And finally, all opinions are equal because an opinion is not a fact. An opinion is one's own thoughts on a subject that can differ to others but a fact is something that is a definite thing like for example, every living thing will one day die in life. That's a fact. What i am trying to state is that in a lot of your posts you are making things sound like they are a fact about Kenny or anything else you discuss, but there are no facts. It is a GAME and we as players choose how we want the game to play out.
Now seriously sir/madam, i don't wish to waste anymore of my Christmas holiday arguing with you. We agree to disagree on this and i respect your opinions so please respect mine. Lets leave it at that and maybe we'll actually discuss other things and be more civil.
Yeah seeing the other threads and rereading this one is enough.
I'm sure this topic will pop back up again though.