This is just an assumption on my part, but there's a few sound files of Sarita's VA screaming, annotated as [scream of terror as your arm is cut off] and stuff like that. However, they don't really sound all that convincing.
What that leads me to believe is that they couldn't get good enough sounding screams for Sarita (or just weren't happy with what they recorded), so they opted to reuse one they already had instead.
The scene was originally supposed to be a lot more chaotic. After Carlos dies, there's an unused audio file of Rebecca calling out for him a… morefter he's shot. Mike would also comment on "how they got Carlos". After hearing more of the unused audio file, the scene originally sounded crazier. And agreed on the Sarita voice, why the hell did they reuse Beatrice's scream?
Nick's death scene. It was bad enough that he was the most developed character out of the whole cabin group and then they just threw him to the side in Episode 3, but they killed him off just for the sake of shock value.
There is a plot hole though. Why did the walkers go away just minutes after they had been banging on those doors? Perhaps they were actually Telltale employees who knew that the plot had to advance somehow.
Ben taking the axe that is blocking the door. The same axe given to Lee from freakin Ben. From the same freakin doors Ben hid behind from a horde of zombies. Sheesh, what is up with ep. 4s eh?
Yes i absolutely loved the Ep4 slide as well. It got me so hyped for it long before it was released and I remember all the speculation surrounding it. The music was so eery and looked like it was going to be a great episode but was so disappointing. Literally nothing in Amid The Ruins had anything to do with the slide, Clem always had her hat, she didn't in the slide, blood on her face like a ritual as people thought, night time setting never took place.
I remember in Season 1, Long Road Ahead's slide showed Duck at the front of the train and smiling and we all know that never happened. I won't believe episode slides again because TTG end up changing them in the end. Anyone remember them completely changing one of the episode slides in The Wolf Among Us?
Yeah the old music was scary. Hated how they changed it to Jolene's theme. Many speculated that a war would take place, a cult came into min… mored aswell. It looked like she was performing some sort of blood ritual. They had so many open opportunities, and they decided to take the easy route out.
Agreed. People say that the slide is showing her getting ready to walk through the herd, I don't believe that was the original intent. As for her being hatless, I never really believed she would lose the hat. I just thought she was hatless in the slide so you can actually see her face. I was also expecting a night time setting aswell. sign.
Yes i absolutely loved the Ep4 slide as well. It got me so hyped for it long before it was released and I remember all the speculation surro… moreunding it. The music was so eery and looked like it was going to be a great episode but was so disappointing. Literally nothing in Amid The Ruins had anything to do with the slide, Clem always had her hat, she didn't in the slide, blood on her face like a ritual as people thought, night time setting never took place.
I remember in Season 1, Long Road Ahead's slide showed Duck at the front of the train and smiling and we all know that never happened. I won't believe episode slides again because TTG end up changing them in the end. Anyone remember them completely changing one of the episode slides in The Wolf Among Us?
Now that I think about it, half the stuff that happened in Amid The Ruins made no sense.
* Rebecca dying the SAME exact way, even if yo… moreu leave after a couple of days (what you said)
* Sarah somehow getting stuck under part of the deck when she fell on top of it
* Nick's death in general
* Jane still somehow being around the area and saving the group, even if you wait for a couple of days.
* Rebecca giving birth with her pants on
* Arvo accusing you of robbing even if you didn't
I think the worst is Sarah's Observation Deck Death Scene just because it's the most illogical one of all, they show planks of wood fall and then Sarah fall but then have planks of wood somehow 'fall'/magically appear perfectly on top of her legs and cause her to get stuck to the point where she is immovable even with Jane's help. I guess it's possible to come up with an explanation for the scenario but it felt like they were just trying to kill Sarah off just because, it sounded like that even more when they laughed that scene up with that IGN guy during an interview
Overall I didn't hate Amid The Ruins but i was disappointed. Also when we see "next time" previews for each episode, they are never accurate and most things that we see don't happen like for example, in Starved For Help we see Katjaa either thanking you or scolding you for saving/not saving Duck at Hershel's farm and Ben firing a rifle which didn't happen and again the Long Road Ahead preview shows walkers attacking Omid and Christa in the station which also didn't happen in the episode and once again the Amid The Ruins preview showed Clem taking care of Kenny's bandage which didn't happen until episode 5 instead. So when i see previews now i expect that some things will happen but won't pay close attention to the preview because i know it will most likely change
Agreed. People say that the slide is showing her getting ready to walk through the herd, I don't believe that was the original intent. As fo… morer her being hatless, I never really believed she would lose the hat. I just thought she was hatless in the slide so you can actually see her face. I was also expecting a night time setting aswell. sign.
Overall I didn't hate Amid The Ruins but i was disappointed. Also when we see "next time" previews for each episode, they are never accurate… more and most things that we see don't happen like for example, in Starved For Help we see Katjaa either thanking you or scolding you for saving/not saving Duck at Hershel's farm and Ben firing a rifle which didn't happen and again the Long Road Ahead preview shows walkers attacking Omid and Christa in the station which also didn't happen in the episode and once again the Amid The Ruins preview showed Clem taking care of Kenny's bandage which didn't happen until episode 5 instead. So when i see previews now i expect that some things will happen but won't pay close attention to the preview because i know it will most likely change
in Starved For Help we see Katjaa either thanking you or scolding you for saving/not saving Duck at Hershel's farm
Believe it or not, that actually does happen, it's just relatively hidden away:
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By the way really loved that guy's youtube page. So many things from this game I didn't even know about. This is why i feel they put so much effort into season 1 as opposed to season 2, adding extra lines during convo's like that is everything i loved about the first game. Thanks again for showing me this
in Starved For Help we see Katjaa either thanking you or scolding you for saving/not saving Duck at Hershel's farm
Believe it or not, that actually does happen, it's just relatively hidden away:
enter link description here
By the way really loved that guy's youtube page. So many things from this game I didn't even know about. This is why i feel they put so much… more effort into season 1 as opposed to season 2, adding extra lines during convo's like that is everything i loved about the first game. Thanks again for showing me this
If you free Sarita by killing the walker, you will hear her scream in shock, not in pain, which leads me to believe that that was the scream initially intended to use if you chop off her arm. Julia Farmer wasn't very convincing.
why the hell did they reuse Beatrice's scream?
This is just an assumption on my part, but there's a few sound files of Sarita's VA s… morecreaming, annotated as [scream of terror as your arm is cut off] and stuff like that. However, they don't really sound all that convincing.
What that leads me to believe is that they couldn't get good enough sounding screams for Sarita (or just weren't happy with what they recorded), so they opted to reuse one they already had instead.
What I hate most about that scene with Arvo, and the other Russians is that even if you don't steal from Arvo, he says that you did. I saw that lil' shit walk away with his meds and such..
I'm surprised no one has said 'The herd Scene' in Episode 3. Here are my reasons for that choice:
* Carlos dying had no purpose and was… more shit.
* The lack of walkers attacking the group, especially Sarah and Bonnie, one was screaming her head off and the other was firing her gun in the middle of a herd.
* Lack of emotion in the scene. It seemed like no one was really scared other than Sarah, even after everything went ot shit and people started dying and fighting walkers. It was like everyone was a mime in that scene.
* The shitty choice with Sarita.
Yeah that part was bullshit but I feel like it will be explained at some point in the future, Arvo most likely stole those meds from his own group and wanted to try and survive with his sister so he blamed it on Clementine so that he wouldn't get into trouble. If that doesn't happen then it's the most illogical part of TWD.
What I hate most about that scene with Arvo, and the other Russians is that even if you don't steal from Arvo, he says that you did. I saw that lil' shit walk away with his meds and such..
Yeah that part was bullshit but I feel like it will be explained at some point in the future, Arvo most likely stole those meds from his own… more group and wanted to try and survive with his sister so he blamed it on Clementine so that he wouldn't get into trouble. If that doesn't happen then it's the most illogical part of TWD.
That is a possibility but come on, would they really risk their lives for a single gun? Remember, Arvo was happy if you refused to steal the medicine, he even thanked Clementine and smiled, if you ask me, I think he stole the medicine from his own group and put the blame on Clementine.
That is a possibility but come on, would they really risk their lives for a single gun? Remember, Arvo was happy if you refused to steal the… more medicine, he even thanked Clementine and smiled, if you ask me, I think he stole the medicine from his own group and put the blame on Clementine.
Agreed. People say that the slide is showing her getting ready to walk through the herd, I don't believe that was the original intent. As fo… morer her being hatless, I never really believed she would lose the hat. I just thought she was hatless in the slide so you can actually see her face. I was also expecting a night time setting aswell. sign.
I think you misinterpreted my comment, no ofcourse the rest of the group wasn't happy but why would Arvo be so shifty? He went from happy and thankful to blame Clementine eventhough he had the medicine, if you ask me, I think it will be explained at some point. :P
I think you misinterpreted my comment, no ofcourse the rest of the group wasn't happy but why would Arvo be so shifty? He went from happy an… mored thankful to blame Clementine eventhough he had the medicine, if you ask me, I think it will be explained at some point. :P
I dunno, I find it hard to get mad about the obvious attempts to make Clementine do stuff on S2, they were in an impossible situation with the only real criticism of the first season being lack of interactivity.
Can't remember if they mentioned meds being stolen, but if all that happened because Jane stole a gun, then those Russians were being a bit extreme.. Oh and psychopaths!
Luke's death is pretty dumb and really forced. No way in a million years would I walk that lake to begin with. I would go AROUND like a normal person! "If we distant ourselves we should be alright"? Why take that stupid chance?
To me it would be the scene when Lee tells everybody at St. Johns that they're eating human flesh. I mean, a guy comes in starts screaming sh*t about what this people did to Mark, with no gun, nor taking away the rifle from the emo-farmer.
Anyway, when you have to chose if tell Kenny to get his gun or Lilly to take a knife, it's pointless, they do nothing. At least Lilly coulda kill Andy and grab his gun, while Lee takes the rifle and Kenny his own gun, so they coulda threaten the other two folks.
To be honest i wouldn't say it's the WOOORST scene but it was so obvious that they writed it that way to make the plot larger.
To me it would be the scene when Lee tells everybody at St. Johns that they're eating human flesh. I mean, a guy comes in starts screaming s… moreh*t about what this people did to Mark, with no gun, nor taking away the rifle from the emo-farmer.
Anyway, when you have to chose if tell Kenny to get his gun or Lilly to take a knife, it's pointless, they do nothing. At least Lilly coulda kill Andy and grab his gun, while Lee takes the rifle and Kenny his own gun, so they coulda threaten the other two folks.
To be honest i wouldn't say it's the WOOORST scene but it was so obvious that they writed it that way to make the plot larger.
"At least Lilly coulda kill Andy and grab his gun, while Lee takes the rifle and Kenny his own gun, so they coulda threaten the other two folks."
What do you think this people would do if you get to the living room and screaming this dudes are making you eat human flesh. "Oh, i didn't realise you didn't like it. I'm sorry, i'll take you guys to the door".
If you're going to do some acusations better to get a gun first, don't you think?
Exactly my point.. Telltale isn't known for making a story that no one in the right mind would follow. The fact that they forced me to walk that ice without even sharing any doubt was really.. dumb and forced like I said.
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Arvo's sister was shot like near her heart which has not much chance to survive that
That is a good point.
This is just an assumption on my part, but there's a few sound files of Sarita's VA screaming, annotated as [scream of terror as your arm is cut off] and stuff like that. However, they don't really sound all that convincing.
What that leads me to believe is that they couldn't get good enough sounding screams for Sarita (or just weren't happy with what they recorded), so they opted to reuse one they already had instead.
Nick's death scene. It was bad enough that he was the most developed character out of the whole cabin group and then they just threw him to the side in Episode 3, but they killed him off just for the sake of shock value.
There is a plot hole though. Why did the walkers go away just minutes after they had been banging on those doors? Perhaps they were actually Telltale employees who knew that the plot had to advance somehow.
Yes i absolutely loved the Ep4 slide as well. It got me so hyped for it long before it was released and I remember all the speculation surrounding it. The music was so eery and looked like it was going to be a great episode but was so disappointing. Literally nothing in Amid The Ruins had anything to do with the slide, Clem always had her hat, she didn't in the slide, blood on her face like a ritual as people thought, night time setting never took place.
I remember in Season 1, Long Road Ahead's slide showed Duck at the front of the train and smiling and we all know that never happened. I won't believe episode slides again because TTG end up changing them in the end. Anyone remember them completely changing one of the episode slides in The Wolf Among Us?
Agreed. People say that the slide is showing her getting ready to walk through the herd, I don't believe that was the original intent. As for her being hatless, I never really believed she would lose the hat. I just thought she was hatless in the slide so you can actually see her face. I was also expecting a night time setting aswell. sign.
7 - The Russian group attacking you on the same path regardless of when you leave.
I think the worst is Sarah's Observation Deck Death Scene just because it's the most illogical one of all, they show planks of wood fall and then Sarah fall but then have planks of wood somehow 'fall'/magically appear perfectly on top of her legs and cause her to get stuck to the point where she is immovable even with Jane's help. I guess it's possible to come up with an explanation for the scenario but it felt like they were just trying to kill Sarah off just because, it sounded like that even more when they laughed that scene up with that IGN guy during an interview![:\](https://community.telltale.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
Overall I didn't hate Amid The Ruins but i was disappointed. Also when we see "next time" previews for each episode, they are never accurate and most things that we see don't happen like for example, in Starved For Help we see Katjaa either thanking you or scolding you for saving/not saving Duck at Hershel's farm and Ben firing a rifle which didn't happen and again the Long Road Ahead preview shows walkers attacking Omid and Christa in the station which also didn't happen in the episode and once again the Amid The Ruins preview showed Clem taking care of Kenny's bandage which didn't happen until episode 5 instead. So when i see previews now i expect that some things will happen but won't pay close attention to the preview because i know it will most likely change
Believe it or not, that actually does happen, it's just relatively hidden away:
enter link description here
Deltino you're a legend wow i never knew this after all this time! Thanks for that. I never realised you could talk to Kat once he left the barn.
By the way really loved that guy's youtube page. So many things from this game I didn't even know about. This is why i feel they put so much effort into season 1 as opposed to season 2, adding extra lines during convo's like that is everything i loved about the first game. Thanks again for showing me this
Why thank you
I need to find more things to record eventually
I think you hit the nail on the head.
If you free Sarita by killing the walker, you will hear her scream in shock, not in pain, which leads me to believe that that was the scream initially intended to use if you chop off her arm. Julia Farmer wasn't very convincing.
What I hate most about that scene with Arvo, and the other Russians is that even if you don't steal from Arvo, he says that you did. I saw that lil' shit walk away with his meds and such..
Have you seen the parody videos on youtube? Gamer poop do some hilarious walking dead vids haha love them!
Well, that's one of the best S2 scenes for me
Yeah that part was bullshit but I feel like it will be explained at some point in the future, Arvo most likely stole those meds from his own group and wanted to try and survive with his sister so he blamed it on Clementine so that he wouldn't get into trouble. If that doesn't happen then it's the most illogical part of TWD.
Probably Sarahs death on the balcony.
What the fuck was she doing out there anyway???It's not like she was going to be able to help.
I think he is talking about the gun Jane stole...
That is a possibility but come on, would they really risk their lives for a single gun? Remember, Arvo was happy if you refused to steal the medicine, he even thanked Clementine and smiled, if you ask me, I think he stole the medicine from his own group and put the blame on Clementine.
Tell me about it. That's not what she would REALLY do. Her staying with Rebecca and Kenny would have made more sense.
Just because he thanked Clementine and was happy doesn't mean the rest of the group was :P
I wonder if the original idea for the episode was scrapped, because otherwise the slide makes no sense.
I think you misinterpreted my comment, no ofcourse the rest of the group wasn't happy but why would Arvo be so shifty? He went from happy and thankful to blame Clementine eventhough he had the medicine, if you ask me, I think it will be explained at some point. :P
Well, it is possible, but I don't think that they will worry about explaining :v
I dunno, I find it hard to get mad about the obvious attempts to make Clementine do stuff on S2, they were in an impossible situation with the only real criticism of the first season being lack of interactivity.
They probably had a general idea for it. They probably thought it didn't match up with the direction they wanted S2 to go, so they changed it.
Can't remember if they mentioned meds being stolen, but if all that happened because Jane stole a gun, then those Russians were being a bit extreme.. Oh and psychopaths!
Luke's death is pretty dumb and really forced. No way in a million years would I walk that lake to begin with. I would go AROUND like a normal person! "If we distant ourselves we should be alright"? Why take that stupid chance?
Dude it's just a game, they wouldn't take that chance in real life.
To me it would be the scene when Lee tells everybody at St. Johns that they're eating human flesh. I mean, a guy comes in starts screaming sh*t about what this people did to Mark, with no gun, nor taking away the rifle from the emo-farmer.
Anyway, when you have to chose if tell Kenny to get his gun or Lilly to take a knife, it's pointless, they do nothing. At least Lilly coulda kill Andy and grab his gun, while Lee takes the rifle and Kenny his own gun, so they coulda threaten the other two folks.
To be honest i wouldn't say it's the WOOORST scene but it was so obvious that they writed it that way to make the plot larger.
What should he have done??? Just let everyone eat Mark???
at least their dialogue wasn't..
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Huh?
"At least Lilly coulda kill Andy and grab his gun, while Lee takes the rifle and Kenny his own gun, so they coulda threaten the other two folks."
What do you think this people would do if you get to the living room and screaming this dudes are making you eat human flesh. "Oh, i didn't realise you didn't like it. I'm sorry, i'll take you guys to the door".
If you're going to do some acusations better to get a gun first, don't you think?
Ha.
Tie between Nick and Sarah's deaths.
Exactly my point.. Telltale isn't known for making a story that no one in the right mind would follow. The fact that they forced me to walk that ice without even sharing any doubt was really.. dumb and forced like I said.