I also gave reasons as to why the shot could have missed man. It's not like I just say "Lee's alive" in the video I even said he could come back as a walker. I never say for sure he's alive.
Impossible. My Clem shot him. Even if he is a walker, he is not that smart to travel around America, he is stuck in Savannah. That city is DONE, alright?
It would be really funny for this guy if they did bring him back. Also in the video I said something along the lines that he may come back as a walker.
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Sorry to break it to you, but Lee is dead, or a walker. There isn't any room for speculation here. He either gets his brains blown out or succumbs to either blood loss or the bite. Robert Kirkman has made it very clear that no one is immune to the bite, which means that he is confirmed dead for everyone who did not cut his arm off. It doesn't even matter if you think Clem 'missed' because she 'pulled her gun up'. He's still bitten. He dies either way. But Clem didn't 'pull her gun up'. She shot Lee in the head to prevent him from becoming a walker, and tells Luke in 201 that she killed Lee. That means Lee is definitley dead for everyone who:
didn't cut his arm off
had Clem shoot him (with or w/o arm doesn't matter)
Do you really think that Telltale would bring Lee back for the minority who cut his arm off and had Clem leave him? The answer is no. It's as simple as that. Lee dies either by Clem's hand, the virus or blood loss after an extremely sloppy amputation. It's also possible and pretty likely that it was still the virus that killed him in the end, even if you cut his arm off. A character in the comics gets bit and his arm is cut off not even a minute after the bite, yet he still succumbs to it. Lee took about an hour, at least, to cut it off. Go figure.
Lee is dead. Everyone who says otherwise is simply wrong and in denial. There is no way that he will ever return as an alive human being in the game. End of story.
I kind of also explain that in the video I think. I think I talk about how Lee told her to close her eyes shoot and walk away. So if she did miss she may not have known. Also I do in one of the videos say something along the lines of telltale could be bringing him back as a walker or something like that.
I also did research on how someone could possibly survive the bite and realized there were a number of options. I explain those in another video I believe. I can link that if you want.
Sorry to break it to you, but Lee is dead, or a walker. There isn't any room for speculation here. He either gets his brains blown out or su… moreccumbs to either blood loss or the bite. Robert Kirkman has made it very clear that no one is immune to the bite, which means that he is confirmed dead for everyone who did not cut his arm off. It doesn't even matter if you think Clem 'missed' because she 'pulled her gun up'. He's still bitten. He dies either way. But Clem didn't 'pull her gun up'. She shot Lee in the head to prevent him from becoming a walker, and tells Luke in 201 that she killed Lee. That means Lee is definitley dead for everyone who:
* didn't cut his arm off
* had Clem shoot him (with or w/o arm doesn't matter)
Do you really think that Telltale would bring Lee back for the minority who cut his arm off and had Clem leave him? The answer is no. It's as simple as that. Lee dies either by Clem's hand, the virus or blood loss… [view original content]
Yes but my point was that the writer's didn't even tell the voice actor of Clementine who the two people were after the game was over. So it is possible that the writers wouldn't have told the voice actor's if they were planning to bring him back. Based on the fact that in the past they've not told the voice actor's until later than I believe most companies would. Also directors have been known to change their mind which leads to completely different story lines. Like in Star Wars the Force Awakens.
But they told them LEE WAS GOING TO DIE. He's dead. The writers told the voice actors that. It's not hard. I know you think Lee is the onl… morey one who can survive a bullet wound to the head and a zombie bite, but you're wrong. He's DEAD. And any theory as to how he survived is stupid and ignorant of the facts.
he may come back as a walker.
Impossible. My Clem shot him. Even if he is a walker, he is not that smart to travel around America, he is stuck in Savannah. That city is DONE, alright?
Clementine did not miss the shot, lee is hancuffed to a radiator, Lee is in the middle of the city with no way or reason to escape the room or escape savannah, clementine has traveled very far without making any real noise.
That would have been terrible me thinks. When that happened I was like "this has to be a flashback" and it was.
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God bless you.
But they told the voice actors that LEE IS DEAD. HOW IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? Your theory makes NO SENSE. Yes they didn't say who those two people were, but you know what they did say. LEE IS GOING TO DIE AT THE END OF EPISODE 5! LEE IS DEAD.
Yes but my point was that the writer's didn't even tell the voice actor of Clementine who the two people were after the game was over. So i… moret is possible that the writers wouldn't have told the voice actor's if they were planning to bring him back. Based on the fact that in the past they've not told the voice actor's until later than I believe most companies would. Also directors have been known to change their mind which leads to completely different story lines. Like in Star Wars the Force Awakens.
Your theory is stupid. It's like people who ignore the facts just to suit themselves. "Well, we know the evidence proves this guy is innocent, but we're going to put him in jail for life anyway." That's what you sound like.
I kind of also explain that in the video I think. I think I talk about how Lee told her to close her eyes shoot and walk away. So if she did… more miss she may not have known. Also I do in one of the videos say something along the lines of telltale could be bringing him back as a walker or something like that.
I also did research on how someone could possibly survive the bite and realized there were a number of options. I explain those in another video I believe. I can link that if you want.
Thank you for watching the video and for comment.
God bless you.
The difference between all those people you mentioned and Lee is that we didn't see Lee's death. Even if you decide to have Clementine shoo… moret him it simply goes to black screen from there. I have a basic rule that if I don't actually see a death in a movie or video game I can't rule out that the person is alive. Why? Because it's happened in too many movies and tv shows and video games where a character get's a death scene and then ends up not dead.
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Can we lock this thread. We've already provided 100% proof he's dead. The voice actors have said he's dead, and they were told by the writers. They even said it on video he's dead. Telltale themselves confirmed he's dead. He was confirmed dead again in season 2 by Clem. We've got a guy here saying that because the writers didn't tell them who the people were at the end of season 1 that they wouldn't tell them if Lee survived being shot, turned into a zombie, blood loss, because they don't tell the voice actors everything even though they did in fact tell the voice actors from Episode 2 onwards that Lee was going to die.
He's got no actual evidence that Lee survived. Yes, it's an opinion, but an opinion that's proved false by facts is just willfull ignorance.
And personally. If someone wants me to watch a TWD discussion video, I will, but they lose all credibility and my interest as soon as they say Lee survived.
I like how the thread title and description is something completely different from what everyone—including the author of the thread—is talking about in the comments.
And you know the shot didn't miss how?
Because she flat out says she shot him in season 2?
Why on earth would she miss?
Why on earth would she not check the body afterwards?
People have survived worse death scenes in movies and in video games. Plus you didn't actually see him die. You saw him lean his head against the heater or whatever that thing was.
Dude I'm looking at the evidence. The ones that most people tend to ignore. And I admit I could be wrong, but after playing through the first game multiple times I noticed some things that were out of place about that scene. I'm not going to ignore them.
Your theory is stupid. It's like people who ignore the facts just to suit themselves. "Well, we know the evidence proves this guy is innocent, but we're going to put him in jail for life anyway." That's what you sound like.
Lee is dead and is never coming back in any form.
Clementine did not miss the shot, lee is hancuffed to a radiator, Lee is in the middle … moreof the city with no way or reason to escape the room or escape savannah, clementine has traveled very far without making any real noise.
That video is ridiculous
Lee is dead and is never coming back in any form.
Clementine did not miss the shot, lee is hancuffed to a radiator, Lee is in the middle … moreof the city with no way or reason to escape the room or escape savannah, clementine has traveled very far without making any real noise.
That video is ridiculous
It seems like alot of hopeful (but unrealistic/delusional) thinking that would make someone think Lee is still alive.
He's dead breh, and he's not coming back so don't set yourself up for dissapointment.
I'm just replying to what the people are commenting on. I mean in that video I talked more than just Lee. I meantioned about the endings of season 2 not making much of a difference (my theory) and how we may play as someone familiar rather than Clementine. However most of the people seemed to be focusing on how I mentioned Lee may still alive.
I like how the thread title and description is something completely different from what everyone—including the author of the thread—is talking about in the comments.
It is possible they said that to get real emotion out of the actors or that they just haven't thought that far ahead. A similar thing happened in Star Wars The Force Awakens.
But they told the voice actors that LEE IS DEAD. HOW IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? Your theory makes NO SENSE. Yes they didn't say who those two people were, but you know what they did say. LEE IS GOING TO DIE AT THE END OF EPISODE 5! LEE IS DEAD.
Dude I'm looking at the evidence. The ones that most people tend to ignore. And I admit I could be wrong, but after playing through the fi… morerst game multiple times I noticed some things that were out of place about that scene. I'm not going to ignore them.
It is possible they said that to get real emotion out of the actors or that they just haven't thought that far ahead. A similar thing happened in Star Wars The Force Awakens.
But no one is interested in your theory that Lee is immortal/immune/the writers did not think as far ahead even though they'd told the voice actors by Episode 2 Lee was going to die/that Clem who was shown to be able to shoot a zombie from a distance can't shoot at close range.
Also if you watch carefully she had her eyes open when she shot Lee.
I've also noticed that the only way he can present evidence is attempting to get views on youtube. He can't provide his false evidence in writing.
I'm just replying to what the people are commenting on. I mean in that video I talked more than just Lee. I meantioned about the endings o… moref season 2 not making much of a difference (my theory) and how we may play as someone familiar rather than Clementine. However most of the people seemed to be focusing on how I mentioned Lee may still alive.
Thank you for watching the video and for comment.
God bless you.
People have survived worse death scenes in movies and in video games. Plus you didn't actually see him die. You saw him lean his head against the heater or whatever that thing was.
I'm just replying to what the people are commenting on. I mean in that video I talked more than just Lee. I meantioned about the endings o… moref season 2 not making much of a difference (my theory) and how we may play as someone familiar rather than Clementine. However most of the people seemed to be focusing on how I mentioned Lee may still alive.
Thank you for watching the video and for comment.
God bless you.
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The shot didn't miss though. He's 100% dead. And we'll never see him as a walker either because that would cheapen the death.
Impossible. My Clem shot him. Even if he is a walker, he is not that smart to travel around America, he is stuck in Savannah. That city is DONE, alright?
Sorry to break it to you, but Lee is dead, or a walker. There isn't any room for speculation here. He either gets his brains blown out or succumbs to either blood loss or the bite. Robert Kirkman has made it very clear that no one is immune to the bite, which means that he is confirmed dead for everyone who did not cut his arm off. It doesn't even matter if you think Clem 'missed' because she 'pulled her gun up'. He's still bitten. He dies either way. But Clem didn't 'pull her gun up'. She shot Lee in the head to prevent him from becoming a walker, and tells Luke in 201 that she killed Lee. That means Lee is definitley dead for everyone who:
didn't cut his arm off
had Clem shoot him (with or w/o arm doesn't matter)
Do you really think that Telltale would bring Lee back for the minority who cut his arm off and had Clem leave him? The answer is no. It's as simple as that. Lee dies either by Clem's hand, the virus or blood loss after an extremely sloppy amputation. It's also possible and pretty likely that it was still the virus that killed him in the end, even if you cut his arm off. A character in the comics gets bit and his arm is cut off not even a minute after the bite, yet he still succumbs to it. Lee took about an hour, at least, to cut it off. Go figure.
Lee is dead. Everyone who says otherwise is simply wrong and in denial. There is no way that he will ever return as an alive human being in the game. End of story.
I kind of also explain that in the video I think. I think I talk about how Lee told her to close her eyes shoot and walk away. So if she did miss she may not have known. Also I do in one of the videos say something along the lines of telltale could be bringing him back as a walker or something like that.
I also did research on how someone could possibly survive the bite and realized there were a number of options. I explain those in another video I believe. I can link that if you want.
Thank you for watching the video and for comment.
God bless you.
And you know the shot didn't miss how?
Yes but my point was that the writer's didn't even tell the voice actor of Clementine who the two people were after the game was over. So it is possible that the writers wouldn't have told the voice actor's if they were planning to bring him back. Based on the fact that in the past they've not told the voice actor's until later than I believe most companies would. Also directors have been known to change their mind which leads to completely different story lines. Like in Star Wars the Force Awakens.
But those other walkers followed them all the way to Savannah.
Because they followed the train which made a lot of noise.
Lee is dead and is never coming back in any form.
Clementine did not miss the shot, lee is hancuffed to a radiator, Lee is in the middle of the city with no way or reason to escape the room or escape savannah, clementine has traveled very far without making any real noise.
That video is ridiculous
Indeed it would have been. Him just being alive after everything would be even more terrible though.
Because she flat out says she shot him in season 2?
Why on earth would she miss?
Why on earth would she not check the body afterwards?
This whole "Lee is not/maybe not dead" thing again? Seriously? Time to let it go.
But they told the voice actors that LEE IS DEAD. HOW IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? Your theory makes NO SENSE. Yes they didn't say who those two people were, but you know what they did say. LEE IS GOING TO DIE AT THE END OF EPISODE 5! LEE IS DEAD.
Your theory is stupid. It's like people who ignore the facts just to suit themselves. "Well, we know the evidence proves this guy is innocent, but we're going to put him in jail for life anyway." That's what you sound like.
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It seems like alot of hopeful (but unrealistic/delusional) thinking that would make someone think Lee is still alive.
He's dead breh, and he's not coming back so don't set yourself up for dissapointment.
but you do see him die, he got bitten possibly multiple times, and no matter what he was so weak he couldn't even stand, he died.
Well , Lee's blood spatters on her face and clothes afterwards , sooo...
Can we lock this thread. We've already provided 100% proof he's dead. The voice actors have said he's dead, and they were told by the writers. They even said it on video he's dead. Telltale themselves confirmed he's dead. He was confirmed dead again in season 2 by Clem. We've got a guy here saying that because the writers didn't tell them who the people were at the end of season 1 that they wouldn't tell them if Lee survived being shot, turned into a zombie, blood loss, because they don't tell the voice actors everything even though they did in fact tell the voice actors from Episode 2 onwards that Lee was going to die.
He's got no actual evidence that Lee survived. Yes, it's an opinion, but an opinion that's proved false by facts is just willfull ignorance.
And personally. If someone wants me to watch a TWD discussion video, I will, but they lose all credibility and my interest as soon as they say Lee survived.
I like how the thread title and description is something completely different from what everyone—including the author of the thread—is talking about in the comments.
Yes but Lee actually tells her (I'm paraphrasing) to close her eyes, shoot and walk away. It is quite possible she never looked back.
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Actually I made a video showing that wasn't shown.
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People have survived worse death scenes in movies and in video games. Plus you didn't actually see him die. You saw him lean his head against the heater or whatever that thing was.
Dude I'm looking at the evidence. The ones that most people tend to ignore. And I admit I could be wrong, but after playing through the first game multiple times I noticed some things that were out of place about that scene. I'm not going to ignore them.
I actually made a video showing evidence from the game that Clem could have missed her shot.
Also we've walkers break handcuffs before.
We'll see.
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I won't be disappointed. If anything I'll be relieved if in Season 3 we get a clear answer to this.
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I'm just replying to what the people are commenting on. I mean in that video I talked more than just Lee. I meantioned about the endings of season 2 not making much of a difference (my theory) and how we may play as someone familiar rather than Clementine. However most of the people seemed to be focusing on how I mentioned Lee may still alive.
Thank you for watching the video and for comment.
God bless you.
It is possible they said that to get real emotion out of the actors or that they just haven't thought that far ahead. A similar thing happened in Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Maybe, we'll just have to wait and see how season 3 goes down. Even if he's dead I bet the voice actor will be in there somewhere.
Like what? The little elf in the corner.He's dead. You're clutching at straws. He's 100% DEAD
But they DID plan that far ahead, As they knew from Episode 2 LEE was going to DIE. So again, clutching at straws.
But no one is interested in your theory that Lee is immortal/immune/the writers did not think as far ahead even though they'd told the voice actors by Episode 2 Lee was going to die/that Clem who was shown to be able to shoot a zombie from a distance can't shoot at close range.
Also if you watch carefully she had her eyes open when she shot Lee.
I've also noticed that the only way he can present evidence is attempting to get views on youtube. He can't provide his false evidence in writing.
She didn't miss though, She didn't close her eyes when she took her shot. So your theory is wrong. Quit clutching at thin air.
You saw him get shot. And your theory that he's alive because Clem had a clean face in the end credits is also wrong.
Yeah, I know. That's why it seemed strange to me that everyone was just talking about Lee, instead of how Season 3 could improve.
i agree lee is alive and i think he and clementine will be the two of the playable characters in season 3
Don't encourage him.
Just a question. Do you think Ben is alive too.