That's like saying we didn't see Lee die so he's definitely alive. You could kill him at the tower so there he could be dead there. Ben fell and broke his back. There is a pole going through his stomach. With a whole bunch of walkers surrounding him. The walkers couldn't just leave him and again Kenny said he couldn't save him. There is NO way that Ben is alive. He's DEAD.
Never said he was definitely alive in fact in the video "Did Clementine miss her shot" I believe I mentioned they may bring him back as a walker. It's just a theory.
That's like saying we didn't see Lee die so he's definitely alive. You could kill him at the tower so there he could be dead there. Ben fell… more and broke his back. There is a pole going through his stomach. With a whole bunch of walkers surrounding him. The walkers couldn't just leave him and again Kenny said he couldn't save him. There is NO way that Ben is alive. He's DEAD.
Yes but antibiotics can still be used to treat said infection. Which was my point in one of my videos.
"In a world with an endless supply of antibiotics and clean bandages maybe their bite wouldn't kill you, but in The Walking Dead universe where people are perpetually covered in dirt and gore, it means certain death. Once you kick the bucket from the bite wound, the virus activates in your brain and you get a sudden craving for craniums. Make sense?"
The infection from a bite is established in the comic book series (which the game is canon to) to be invariably fatal, with immediate amputa… moretion being the only sure-fire way to prevent it. Antibiotics can ease the symptoms of the infection, but are still not able to stop it. There have been multiple doctors in the series (Denise and Carson, most prominently) that have tried to no avail to halt the infection from a bite. Doctors like Denise and Carson have a large supply of medicine, including antibiotics, yet are never shown using them on bite victims, which implies that they have tried to do so in the past. Even S2 suggests as much, given Carlos' hesitation to help Clementine on the assumption it was a walker bite, as well as Luke mentioning that the last time they tried to help a bitten survivor, they ended up dying regardless.
And even if he did, it'd be too late by then
Like, you don't take antivenom several hours after a rattlesnake bites you, do you? No, you get it right away before that venom wrecks your shit
You didn't watch the video. In it I explain how Molly could have found him almost right after Clem left. Applied said antibiotics. Listen if I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I have no proble with that.
The blood stain is from Lee getting bitten when he grabs her hat. Lee's 100% dead considering he still got bit. It doesn't matter if Clementine missed the shot or not, he's still infected with nothing to save him.
Get.
Over.
It.
Yes but antibiotics can still be used to treat said infection. Which was my point in one of my videos.
"In a world with an endless suppl… morey of antibiotics and clean bandages maybe their bite wouldn't kill you, but in The Walking Dead universe where people are perpetually covered in dirt and gore, it means certain death. Once you kick the bucket from the bite wound, the virus activates in your brain and you get a sudden craving for craniums. Make sense?"
Source: http://www.bustle.com/articles/45066-how-does-the-walking-dead-virus-work-could-a-cure-really-stop-it
Yes you do have a problem with that. We've pointed out time and time again how you're wrong. You cannot cure the bite with Anti biotics. There is no cure. And he got shot in the head so there is definatly no cure for that.
You didn't watch the video. In it I explain how Molly could have found him almost right after Clem left. Applied said antibiotics. Listen if I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I have no proble with that.
Yeah, it sometimes makes me question the 'rule' of 'trust your audience, they're smart and will figure things out'. These days, in addition to what you said, it feels like if something's not explained, it comes down to the 'bad/lazy writing' argument.
Edit: Btw, Feeding, this was said generally and not aimed at you. Just echoing Deltino's general sentiments really. But on the topic, I would say he's definitely dead. At least far as Telltale and canon is concerned. Whether you want to head-cannon that he's alive or not is up to you.
I miss the days when writers didn't have to hold their audience's hand and show them every minute detail, and could let characters die witho… moreut having to show it solely because people will believe otherwise if they didn't
The whole "if there's no body..." rule is dumb, and whoever helped popularize it can go have an off screen death for all I care. It's helped dumb down writing universally to the point where if you don't show every possible detail, someone's going to believe otherwise, all the way to the point where the theories and evidence provided reach astronomically ridiculous -- if not stupid -- levels
Never said he was definitely alive in fact in the video "Did Clementine miss her shot" I believe I mentioned they may bring him back as a walker. It's just a theory.
Uh, I'm pretty sure the article you just linked is arguing against antibiotics helping? Am I misreading something here or...
You know what, I'm actually confused now
Yeah, it sometimes makes me question the 'rule' of 'trust your audience, they're smart and will figure things out'. These days, in addition … moreto what you said, it feels like if something's not explained, it comes down to the 'bad/lazy writing' argument.
Edit: Btw, Feeding, this was said generally and not aimed at you. Just echoing Deltino's general sentiments really. But on the topic, I would say he's definitely dead. At least far as Telltale and canon is concerned. Whether you want to head-cannon that he's alive or not is up to you.
But you haven't proved it. You haven't explained off all the evidence. It's more been (he's dead just let him be dead) In this comment alone you ignored the fact that I explained how Clem could have missed her shot. There was to evidence to back that up. Also Anti biotic can be used to treat the bite because the bite doesn't kill you the bacteria around the dead rotting teeth cause death.
Yes you do have a problem with that. We've pointed out time and time again how you're wrong. You cannot cure the bite with Anti biotics. There is no cure. And he got shot in the head so there is definatly no cure for that.
Lee is dead and is never coming back in any form.
Clementine did not miss the shot, lee is hancuffed to a radiator, Lee is in the middle … moreof the city with no way or reason to escape the room or escape savannah, clementine has traveled very far without making any real noise.
That video is ridiculous
Also Anti biotic can be used to treat the bite because the bite doesn't kill you the bacteria around the dead rotting teeth cause death.
Unfortunately, that's not true. A bite from a freshly turned zombie also causes the fever. The infection that results from a bite is not from the rotting teeth or the various foreign bacteria in the mouth/body as a lot of people believe: it's from the zombie's saliva. Whatever causes reanimation also causes the zombie's saliva to become extremely toxic in the process, to the point where direct blood contact with it (getting in any wound deep enough to reach the blood stream) is lethal. Direct blood contact with zombie saliva, regardless of the zombie's 'age,' causes infection. The infection caused by exposure to zombie saliva is not treatable, and will invariably cause the victim's death, unless it can be amputated immediately afterwards (within 10-20 minutes). The infection is fast acting, the fever taking effect within hours after the bite, and will generally kill the victim within 24 hours, with only a few people rarely surviving any longer than that (Dale in the comics gets bitten, and manages to survive a little bit over 24 hours before finally succumbing to the infection)
The effect from the saliva might also apply to other body fluids from a zombie, but there's been no scenes in the comics or game where this is explicitly seen. The people in the comic series that made use of the infected weapon concept (explained below) did so by rubbing their weapons near the zombies' mouths. Whether or not zombie guts and blood from other parts of their body are toxic like the saliva is, is still up in the air/unknown.
Bites are the easiest and most common vector for direct blood contact, but covering a knife in zombie saliva (IE putting your knife into its mouth and rubbing it around), will cause the same effects as a bite does, inevitably killing whoever was injured by the infected weapon (unless its on a limb that can be amputated, obviously). Bear in mind that this rule in particular applies to the comic universe, as the TV show has taken some liberties with this concept. Since the game is canon to the comic series though, that means it follows the comic universe, and thus, the rules of the comic universe.
But you haven't proved it. You haven't explained off all the evidence. It's more been (he's dead just let him be dead) In this comment alo… morene you ignored the fact that I explained how Clem could have missed her shot. There was to evidence to back that up. Also Anti biotic can be used to treat the bite because the bite doesn't kill you the bacteria around the dead rotting teeth cause death.
hopefully they can release it when they say they will and not haphazardly post a comment the day of release saying "sorry two more days assholes, deal with it"
I didn't know people actually thought Clem missed the shot, that would just make the final choice irrelevant and as much as Telltale gets criticism for not making choices matter, I don't think they would do that for a moment that is so emotionally powerful.
You didn't hear them munching on Ben. That was just random noises. You can't argue the impossibility of Ben surviving when you argue that it's not impossible that Lee survived even though we did see him get bit by a zombie, lose his arm, get shot, and every one knows he's dead because there is no cure as Robert Kirkman has said.
Did you not read the article where the voice actors said he was dead and that they were told he was going to die early on? Did you not see the video where they repeated that information?
LEE IS DEAD. GET A GRIP. CLEM DID NOT MISS HER SHOT.
But you haven't proved it. You haven't explained off all the evidence. It's more been (he's dead just let him be dead) In this comment alo… morene you ignored the fact that I explained how Clem could have missed her shot. There was to evidence to back that up. Also Anti biotic can be used to treat the bite because the bite doesn't kill you the bacteria around the dead rotting teeth cause death.
We play as an older Clem and our choices ACTUALLY MATTER you know choose to stay at Wellington, with Jane, with Kenny or on your own and the story will be different for everyone which would be new since to be honest our choices in the end don't REALLY matter.
Or we play as Christa for some episodes and Kenny for others I dunno but to be honest I'm not expecting much difference I doubt it anyway.
hopefully they can release it when they say they will and not haphazardly post a comment the day of release saying "sorry two more days assholes, deal with it"
I didn't know people actually thought Clem missed the shot, that would just make the final choice irrelevant and as much as Telltale gets cr… moreiticism for not making choices matter, I don't think they would do that for a moment that is so emotionally powerful.
Kenny was a determinant, so I don't think we'd play as him because that would mean there would probably be a scenario where we play as Jane. I don't think they would do that because they would have about five scenario's to start with if they went that way.
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
I think Season 3 might be one of two things:
* We play as an older Clem and our choices ACTUALLY MATTER you know choose to stay at Well… moreington, with Jane, with Kenny or on your own and the story will be different for everyone which would be new since to be honest our choices in the end don't REALLY matter.
* Or we play as Christa for some episodes and Kenny for others I dunno but to be honest I'm not expecting much difference I doubt it anyway.
You talking to me. Cause I'm not really frustrated. If people don't believe me, I don't really care and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. We'll see what happens in Season 3.
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
Also Anti biotic can be used to treat the bite because the bite doesn't kill you the bacteria around the dead rotting teeth cause death.
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Unfortunately, that's not true. A bite from a freshly turned zombie also causes the fever. The infection that results from a bite is not from the rotting teeth or the various foreign bacteria in the mouth/body as a lot of people believe: it's from the zombie's saliva. Whatever causes reanimation also causes the zombie's saliva to become extremely toxic in the process, to the point where direct blood contact with it (getting in any wound deep enough to reach the blood stream) is lethal. Direct blood contact with zombie saliva, regardless of the zombie's 'age,' causes infection. The infection caused by exposure to zombie saliva is not treatable, and will invariably cause the victim's death, unless it can be amputated immediately afterwards (within 10-20 minutes). The infection is fast acting, the fever… [view original content]
If that's true then it's true. Also like I believe I said before the people down at telltale could have decided to keep him alive. Something similar to this happened in Force Awakens where an actor was told his character was going to die and then his character lived because the director changed his mind.
Did you not read the article where the voice actors said he was dead and that they were told he was going to die early on? Did you not see the video where they repeated that information?
LEE IS DEAD. GET A GRIP. CLEM DID NOT MISS HER SHOT.
You didn't hear them munching on Ben. That was just random noises. You can't argue the impossibility of Ben surviving when you argue that it… more's not impossible that Lee survived even though we did see him get bit by a zombie, lose his arm, get shot, and every one knows he's dead because there is no cure as Robert Kirkman has said.
You didn't hear them munching on Ben. That was just random noises. You can't argue the impossibility of Ben surviving when you argue that it… more's not impossible that Lee survived even though we did see him get bit by a zombie, lose his arm, get shot, and every one knows he's dead because there is no cure as Robert Kirkman has said.
It is true. I showed you the interview and video. And for them to change their mind they would have to rewrite Episdoe 4 and 5 so he didn't get bitten or get shot by clem.
If that's true then it's true. Also like I believe I said before the people down at telltale could have decided to keep him alive. Somethi… moreng similar to this happened in Force Awakens where an actor was told his character was going to die and then his character lived because the director changed his mind.
You talking to me. Cause I'm not really frustrated. If people don't believe me, I don't really care and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. We'll see what happens in Season 3.
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
God bless you.
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That's like saying we didn't see Lee die so he's definitely alive. You could kill him at the tower so there he could be dead there. Ben fell and broke his back. There is a pole going through his stomach. With a whole bunch of walkers surrounding him. The walkers couldn't just leave him and again Kenny said he couldn't save him. There is NO way that Ben is alive. He's DEAD.
Never said he was definitely alive in fact in the video "Did Clementine miss her shot" I believe I mentioned they may bring him back as a walker. It's just a theory.
Actually we heard ben die. We heard the walkers munching on him and Kenny shoot him.
Yes but antibiotics can still be used to treat said infection. Which was my point in one of my videos.
"In a world with an endless supply of antibiotics and clean bandages maybe their bite wouldn't kill you, but in The Walking Dead universe where people are perpetually covered in dirt and gore, it means certain death. Once you kick the bucket from the bite wound, the virus activates in your brain and you get a sudden craving for craniums. Make sense?"
Source: http://www.bustle.com/articles/45066-how-does-the-walking-dead-virus-work-could-a-cure-really-stop-it
You take it when you can get it.
You didn't watch the video. In it I explain how Molly could have found him almost right after Clem left. Applied said antibiotics. Listen if I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I have no proble with that.
We'll see.
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
God bless you.
We'll see.
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
God bless you.
If Clem didn't miss her shot then the blood stain on the hat should be much bigger if she shot him.
Uh, I'm pretty sure the article you just linked is arguing against antibiotics helping? Am I misreading something here or...
You know what, I'm actually confused now
Yes you do have a problem with that. We've pointed out time and time again how you're wrong. You cannot cure the bite with Anti biotics. There is no cure. And he got shot in the head so there is definatly no cure for that.
He obviously missed. Surrounded by Zombies, he was too upset to aim right.
Yeah, it sometimes makes me question the 'rule' of 'trust your audience, they're smart and will figure things out'. These days, in addition to what you said, it feels like if something's not explained, it comes down to the 'bad/lazy writing' argument.
Edit: Btw, Feeding, this was said generally and not aimed at you. Just echoing Deltino's general sentiments really. But on the topic, I would say he's definitely dead. At least far as Telltale and canon is concerned. Whether you want to head-cannon that he's alive or not is up to you.
I wasn't talking about your video.
I sent you the quote that the clean bandages and antibiotics one.
Very nice. Thank you.
We'll see. It's just happened way too much in the past for me to ignore the signs.
Thank you for watching the video and for commenting.
God bless you.
And what were the walkers munching on?
But you haven't proved it. You haven't explained off all the evidence. It's more been (he's dead just let him be dead) In this comment alone you ignored the fact that I explained how Clem could have missed her shot. There was to evidence to back that up. Also Anti biotic can be used to treat the bite because the bite doesn't kill you the bacteria around the dead rotting teeth cause death.
Oh okay then.
I can sense the frustration in your words and its making me laugh so fucking hard cause I totally feel
Unfortunately, that's not true. A bite from a freshly turned zombie also causes the fever. The infection that results from a bite is not from the rotting teeth or the various foreign bacteria in the mouth/body as a lot of people believe: it's from the zombie's saliva. Whatever causes reanimation also causes the zombie's saliva to become extremely toxic in the process, to the point where direct blood contact with it (getting in any wound deep enough to reach the blood stream) is lethal. Direct blood contact with zombie saliva, regardless of the zombie's 'age,' causes infection. The infection caused by exposure to zombie saliva is not treatable, and will invariably cause the victim's death, unless it can be amputated immediately afterwards (within 10-20 minutes). The infection is fast acting, the fever taking effect within hours after the bite, and will generally kill the victim within 24 hours, with only a few people rarely surviving any longer than that (Dale in the comics gets bitten, and manages to survive a little bit over 24 hours before finally succumbing to the infection)
The effect from the saliva might also apply to other body fluids from a zombie, but there's been no scenes in the comics or game where this is explicitly seen. The people in the comic series that made use of the infected weapon concept (explained below) did so by rubbing their weapons near the zombies' mouths. Whether or not zombie guts and blood from other parts of their body are toxic like the saliva is, is still up in the air/unknown.
Bites are the easiest and most common vector for direct blood contact, but covering a knife in zombie saliva (IE putting your knife into its mouth and rubbing it around), will cause the same effects as a bite does, inevitably killing whoever was injured by the infected weapon (unless its on a limb that can be amputated, obviously). Bear in mind that this rule in particular applies to the comic universe, as the TV show has taken some liberties with this concept. Since the game is canon to the comic series though, that means it follows the comic universe, and thus, the rules of the comic universe.
hopefully they can release it when they say they will and not haphazardly post a comment the day of release saying "sorry two more days assholes, deal with it"
I didn't know people actually thought Clem missed the shot, that would just make the final choice irrelevant and as much as Telltale gets criticism for not making choices matter, I don't think they would do that for a moment that is so emotionally powerful.
You didn't hear them munching on Ben. That was just random noises. You can't argue the impossibility of Ben surviving when you argue that it's not impossible that Lee survived even though we did see him get bit by a zombie, lose his arm, get shot, and every one knows he's dead because there is no cure as Robert Kirkman has said.
Did you not read the article where the voice actors said he was dead and that they were told he was going to die early on? Did you not see the video where they repeated that information?
LEE IS DEAD. GET A GRIP. CLEM DID NOT MISS HER SHOT.
I think Season 3 might be one of two things:
They've done that before?
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
God bless you.
Perhaps but there is evidence that she did miss her shot. I know it may just be the animators forgetting to animate the blood splatter but still.
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
God bless you.
Kenny was a determinant, so I don't think we'd play as him because that would mean there would probably be a scenario where we play as Jane. I don't think they would do that because they would have about five scenario's to start with if they went that way.
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
God bless you.
You talking to me. Cause I'm not really frustrated. If people don't believe me, I don't really care and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. We'll see what happens in Season 3.
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment.
God bless you.
Can you show the source where this rule came from?
If that's true then it's true. Also like I believe I said before the people down at telltale could have decided to keep him alive. Something similar to this happened in Force Awakens where an actor was told his character was going to die and then his character lived because the director changed his mind.
When did Lee get shot?
Also I wouldn't really argue that long with someone if they did think Ben was alive. If they want to think that, they can think that.
It is true. I showed you the interview and video. And for them to change their mind they would have to rewrite Episdoe 4 and 5 so he didn't get bitten or get shot by clem.
He got shot at the end by Clementine. Clementine confirms she killed him in Season 2.
I wasn't talking to you but God bless you too, sir
Yeah I wasn't sure. That's why I kind of asked at the beginning of the comment.
Thank you.