To people who thought Norma and Randall were reasonable
how s that going for you guys now huh? Doesnt seem from the preview Norma s gonna be ´´reasonable´´´even if you give Randall mercy
edit: i ve changed my opinion on norma she s really not that bad actually it was just a bad chain of events
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Well, yeah. We burned down her whole community, so..
She started this shit I'd kill that sow.
Well considering we killed all of her people in mass murdering genocide I'd say it's understandable. Picture seeing your friends and while community literally go up in flames. Then tell me how reasonable you'd be
I thought she was going to be reasonable until we set up Monroe on fire and pushed a couple of citizens to the water. Although it would be morally-wrong to kill people on our side, we're not above her.
Norma was the only one that was reasonable throughout. Randall was too until he started to threaten the kids.
We only killed 4 as far as we know
Even if it didn't kill anyone else which is a big if it could have easily killed the whole community, destroying a safe haven and people's homes. Plus Monroe is built on the sea which increases the possibility of death if not by burning then by drowning
True but TBH rick would have done worse to them
I can put my answer into one word for you, and it would this:
Whoops ^_^
Well, that is true. It's still wrong imo
Well they were a threat and chonne only killed when she had too
I never saw Randall as a reasonable person to begin with.
Norma, however, I still assume that she has good reasons for her actions and mistrust towards Michonne and Sam, especially after how her community ended up being set on fire when the majority of Monroe never interacted with the heroes and did nothing to them that warranted their deaths.
yeah lol
I did feel like they were reasonable before and didn't think they murdered those people from the ferry but after episode 2, I was just convinced. Norma's group is gonna attack me regardless if I spared or killed her brother so I made sure Randall wouldn't hurt anybody again.
I never thought they were good, I just hoped they wouldn't make them ridiculously evil. I did always think they'd be revealed to be bad.
Lol people who say "it's justified, we destroyed the community" ....COME ON!!!!
She literally said "I'll make what happened on the ferry look like a motherfucking picnic if you don't give me randall"
Weren't we a threat for them, even if it was involuntary? We were basically dragged there and unbalanced the peace in the process. I feel like Randall should've radioed Norma and ask her for an opinion—it just wasn't his call to make.
Norma could still be reasonable. At the point of the third episode we have her brother as a hostage after burning down her community. Her reaction makes sense.
So it is true that Randall killed those people and children from the ferry. I knew I couldn't trust Norma saying that random scavengers killed them instead and Randall gave them justice.
They killed thatferry loads of people including children before we destroyed their community. Is killing children reasonable?
They slaughtered the children on the ferry,. They aren't reasonable.
Was it ever confirmed that it was a group of people including Randall that killed the scavengers, or was it just Randall alone?
True that
I bet Randall,Gabby and Cam did it
Randall implies it
When and how?
Did they confirm that? Or is there still the idea that they killed the people on the ferry who already killed the inhabitants. I guess I'm still hoping for some actual morally grey characters
He implies he's killed kids before
Well it was probably just Randall Gabby and Cam who did it. I bet Randall lied to Norma
Don't know about Gabby and Cam, but they seem to be his henchman--uh, morally ambiguous followers, so it's possible that they gave him a hand on that horrific massacre. I don't think he necessarily lied to Norma. Both of them seem like straight-forward people, even if Randall can be brutal. I'm supposing that he just told her and she disagreed with what he did.
@Firewallcano I am going with the latter, but I'm still waiting for some confirmation. Sam also said that they traded with them sometimes, so she should tell the remaining of her group—or Paige—that they died.
Well Randall had to have help tying em all up and Gabby and Cam seem to be loyal. P.S i love Cams model what kind of hat is he wearing?
Who the Heck are cam and gabby? Are those the two randoms with Randall who don't even have any lines ?
If you ask Sam about the radio she mention the people on the ferry were the people she and Gerg trade with. last time she was there she used the radio, whitch brought randell. she heard randell killed them. she was still on the ferry when that happen but wasn't in the same room. is that proof enough for you?
Sam the perpetual liar, I can't trust a word she says in episode 1
Gabbys the girl pete knlcks into the water and Cam is tower dude and yes they have lines
Well Randall ain't any more reliable since he's a psycho
Norma says '"I'll make what happened on the ferry look like a motherfucking picnic if you don't give me randall"' on the walkie talkie, so I guess.
Also Randall alone couldn't take THAT many people.
fair enough.
I'm not doubting it , I fully expected them to make them 100% good and evil .
Well not everyone in Monroe is evil