It wasn't bad but I think they still made a bit too many mistakes for me to simply overlook them. If season 3 is going to be great than I think they have to work on these/ They can't get complaisant.
And she matures quickly and that is something to admire given all the horrible things she has seen. I think the fact she lost Lee had a big impact on her maturing so fast. I do hope we see her in Season 3.
Throughout season 2 is nothing but reference after reference after reference to season 1. Instead of giving us time to get attached to these characters, it was filled with "Here's a painting of a duck. Don't you miss Duck? You should miss Duck. Why don't you miss Duck?" Or "God, remember when Lee did that?" Yes. I understand that Clementine would miss the old group yes she should have time to remember and mourn the old group. But it never gave season 2's treatment the same flair that season 1's did.
.2 Lack of meaningful character development
Now season 1 had this kind of issue too. Katjaa, Duck, and Chuck could've used a hell of a lot more development. Now, don't get me wrong, I liked season 2's group. I was devastated as hell when Alvin, Rebecca, Luke, Nick and definitely Sarah bit the dust. ( I took Sarah's death REALLY hard. Like, "not able to sleep that night" hard.) but, I never got time to LEARN about these people. Nick and Luke talk about themselves for a bit. We got to learn about Pete. Sarah go a LOT of development. But...everyone else...we didn't learn anything about anyone else. Like, what the fuck's up with Jane? I get her sister died, was that ALL that needed to happen for her to become such a bitch?
.3 "I got lucky".
Fuck that. That still pisses me off.
.4 The railroad being to obvious.
Season 1 had a railroad. But on a first playthrough, I never noticed. Some parts I did, but it was during scenes that were so good, I didn't really care. Season 2? "Amid The Ruins" Is my most hated episode because of the Nick and scene and the fact that Sarah didn't live to episode 5 made me roll my eyes. Episode 3 and 4 were not really that affected by Nick and Sarah being alive. I used to get pissed when people let Ben die, because of all the development he gets in the fifth episode. In 3 and 4 of Season 2, Nick and Sarah being alive or dead leads to no development and they just kinda...hang around in the background. Say a line or two.
.5 400 Days being 100 percent POINTLESS!
Really? We had a whole episode for these people, and Bonnie's the only one we're gonna use? Really? Remember those tweets? "Remember to play 400 Days" "400 days is super important." Remember when we were all like "Man...what a bunch of fucking liars".
i've changed my opinion(s) on S2 so many times since it was released two years ago.
i've decided that it's okay.
7/10.
201-202 are great, others after are just okay, not bad. i really like all the endings now that i think about it. IMO that was the number one thing they got perfect was the ending(s). i'm intrigued to see how these unfold.
My 5 things.
* The reliance on season 1.
Throughout season 2 is nothing but reference after reference after reference to season 1. … moreInstead of giving us time to get attached to these characters, it was filled with "Here's a painting of a duck. Don't you miss Duck? You should miss Duck. Why don't you miss Duck?" Or "God, remember when Lee did that?" Yes. I understand that Clementine would miss the old group yes she should have time to remember and mourn the old group. But it never gave season 2's treatment the same flair that season 1's did.
.2 Lack of meaningful character development
Now season 1 had this kind of issue too. Katjaa, Duck, and Chuck could've used a hell of a lot more development. Now, don't get me wrong, I liked season 2's group. I was devastated as hell when Alvin, Rebecca, Luke, Nick and definitely Sarah bit the dust. ( I took Sarah's death REALLY hard. Like, "not able to sleep that night" hard.) but, I never go… [view original content]
I feel like there are people that don't like season 2 so much that they go as far to make crap up about it. Constantly people make criticisms that don't make sense to me.
Yeah Job tweeted that but, come on. What else happened other than a few cameos and a couple of lines? As Mrbman said, they suffered the determinant curse, just hanging in the background saying a line or two.
Quite present, QUITE present, like, 30 seconds screen time never to be seen or referenced again present, that kind of quite present.
And @Mrbman9001 agreeing with your comments. I remember all that news about 400 Days being important too. I was convinced right up until the finale they were going to do something with those guys and they didn't. They're going to bring them back, right? God it'll suck if they never come back at all.
I also remember an article before Episode 1 of Season 2 came out with something about how you would have to convince people as Clementine into letting you use a gun, and it all to do with trust. In the end Clem is handed a gun regardless during most situations. Nick just goes and hands her one in Episode 2 like 'here you go kid, I've never seen you use one of these things before and apparently I won't need it when a zombie attacks me in a few minutes...have fun!'
I feel like there are people that don't like season 2 so much that they go as far to make crap up about it. Constantly people make criticisms that don't make sense to me.
"Quite present" in all caps is meant to say "not really that present at all."
Although, let me say, I didn't mind that we didn't interact much with the 400 Days crew, apart from Bonnie. I would've rather have them have cameos—as they did—and really explore the rest of Howe's inhabitants. Wouldn't it seem a little too coincidental if Clementine, out of everyone, interacted heavily only with them, out of everyone at Howe's Hardware? I know I would've been bugged out.
Quite present, QUITE present, like, 30 seconds screen time never to be seen or referenced again present, that kind of quite present.
… moreAnd @Mrbman9001 agreeing with your comments. I remember all that news about 400 Days being important too. I was convinced right up until the finale they were going to do something with those guys and they didn't. They're going to bring them back, right? God it'll suck if they never come back at all.
I also remember an article before Episode 1 of Season 2 came out with something about how you would have to convince people as Clementine into letting you use a gun, and it all to do with trust. In the end Clem is handed a gun regardless during most situations. Nick just goes and hands her one in Episode 2 like 'here you go kid, I've never seen you use one of these things before and apparently I won't need it when a zombie attacks me in a few minutes...have fun!'
I feel like there are people that don't like season 2 so much that they go as far to make crap up about it. Constantly people make criticisms that don't make sense to me.
But in a sense that is also what the Internet is known to do. Shit it happens on both sides. Games get hyped a lil extra and critics blast it a lil extra. Well maybe a lot of extra depending on the fandom but you see my point.
* Too short
* Too many timeskips
* Bugs
* Having only two characters from S1 with a main role.
* Killing off every character. The game needs a main cast like the show that is in every game.
-The story- was terrible. Build up this big bad villain and kill him of in an episode & a half. All that tension for nothin'. Also why won't they go darker with this series? I thought S2 was going to be dark (like Lisa RPG).
-Huds, puzzles & such - remember how old TTg had puzzles that took time off of a story, now? Not at all... complete rushness to the max.
-BUGSSS - at least get a new engine and copy paste characters into it, Christ... Im tired of seeing bodies going through the ceiling before loading screens...
-Character Development - this is what I noticed a lot in these recent games, they kill off a character that you know very little/ or nothing at all and they expect you to feel sympathy towards them! Why? such cheap Hollywood movie cliche...
-Release dates - create a deadline or finish the product entirely... (I don't really care about TTg games anymore after Twd season 2, but I do feel bad for folks how play 'em)
-The story- was terrible. Build up this big bad villain and kill him of in an episode & a half. All that tension for nothin'. Also why w… moreon't they go darker with this series? I thought S2 was going to be dark (like Lisa RPG).
-Huds, puzzles & such - remember how old TTg had puzzles that took time off of a story, now? Not at all... complete rushness to the max.
-BUGSSS - at least get a new engine and copy paste characters into it, Christ... Im tired of seeing bodies going through the ceiling before loading screens...
-Character Development - this is what I noticed a lot in these recent games, they kill off a character that you know very little/ or nothing at all and they expect you to feel sympathy towards them! Why? such cheap Hollywood movie cliche...
-Release dates - create a deadline or finish the product entirely... (I don't really care about TTg games anymore after Twd season 2, but I do feel bad for folks how play 'em)
And she matures quickly and that is something to admire given all the horrible things she has seen. I think the fact she lost Lee had a big impact on her maturing so fast. I do hope we see her in Season 3.
Yeah the characters still being alive made almost no difference. Even Alvin was quickly taken away in Ep 3. I was mad about Sarah as well because she died like 30 minutes later. There was almost no point. 400 days well I didn't mind too much, we still got the cameos but you're right the decisions made had I think no impact on Season 2. I had a video about how Kenny survived so I was glad when he came back, just wish they didn't give him such a similar story line.
My 5 things.
* The reliance on season 1.
Throughout season 2 is nothing but reference after reference after reference to season 1. … moreInstead of giving us time to get attached to these characters, it was filled with "Here's a painting of a duck. Don't you miss Duck? You should miss Duck. Why don't you miss Duck?" Or "God, remember when Lee did that?" Yes. I understand that Clementine would miss the old group yes she should have time to remember and mourn the old group. But it never gave season 2's treatment the same flair that season 1's did.
.2 Lack of meaningful character development
Now season 1 had this kind of issue too. Katjaa, Duck, and Chuck could've used a hell of a lot more development. Now, don't get me wrong, I liked season 2's group. I was devastated as hell when Alvin, Rebecca, Luke, Nick and definitely Sarah bit the dust. ( I took Sarah's death REALLY hard. Like, "not able to sleep that night" hard.) but, I never go… [view original content]
When I first finished S2 I hated it and was purely in love with Jane and Clem. I thought of S2 as at least 4.5-5/10.
Well, I ended up replaying it a few months later and actually came to appreciate it a little more. Though, the feeling of them making things seemingly favorable to Kenny even when you disagreed with him was annoying. Having the story revolve more around Kenny was its big undoing especially when you couldn't really choose how Clem felt about Kenny. After replaying I gave it a 6-7/10.
Honestly, how I feel about it still kinda fluctuates.
Yeah Job tweeted that but, come on. What else happened other than a few cameos and a couple of lines? As Mrbman said, they suffered the determinant curse, just hanging in the background saying a line or two.
I think they had plans to make it more about trust but when it came to making the game they most likely changed a lot. Probably due to conflicts in the story arc or something like that.
Quite present, QUITE present, like, 30 seconds screen time never to be seen or referenced again present, that kind of quite present.
… moreAnd @Mrbman9001 agreeing with your comments. I remember all that news about 400 Days being important too. I was convinced right up until the finale they were going to do something with those guys and they didn't. They're going to bring them back, right? God it'll suck if they never come back at all.
I also remember an article before Episode 1 of Season 2 came out with something about how you would have to convince people as Clementine into letting you use a gun, and it all to do with trust. In the end Clem is handed a gun regardless during most situations. Nick just goes and hands her one in Episode 2 like 'here you go kid, I've never seen you use one of these things before and apparently I won't need it when a zombie attacks me in a few minutes...have fun!'
Quite present, QUITE present
"Quite present" in all caps is meant to say "not really that present at all."
Although, let me say, … moreI didn't mind that we didn't interact much with the 400 Days crew, apart from Bonnie. I would've rather have them have cameos—as they did—and really explore the rest of Howe's inhabitants. Wouldn't it seem a little too coincidental if Clementine, out of everyone, interacted heavily only with them, out of everyone at Howe's Hardware? I know I would've been bugged out.
i've changed my opinion(s) on S2 so many times since it was released two years ago.
i've decided that it's okay.
7/10.
201-202 are … moregreat, others after are just okay, not bad. i really like all the endings now that i think about it. IMO that was the number one thing they got perfect was the ending(s). i'm intrigued to see how these unfold.
I tried to keep it real in the video. S2 I think just had too many obvious mistakes to ignore. Most of them I believe occurring by episode 4 and 5. I plan on eventually making a 5 things season 2 got right video as they did make some improvements over season 1.
I feel like there are people that don't like season 2 so much that they go as far to make crap up about it. Constantly people make criticisms that don't make sense to me.
Yeah you don't want to kill off everyone. However notice who they didn't kill off. Kind of speaks for what they may be planning to do next season. Of all the people to ensure they left alive, they chose Arvo.
* Too short
* Too many timeskips
* Bugs
* Having only two characters from S1 with a main role.
* Killing off every character. The game needs a main cast like the show that is in every game.
I gave this season a 7/10 purely because of the way they handled the deaths of characters 1. Nick was one of my fav characters at the start and his character development was going well ( even though it slacked a bit in ep3) and then in episode 4 they give him a really shitty death where you don't know how it happened and the fact that no one gave a shit about it apart from Rebecca and sort of Luke. Luke's death was bs for so many reasons, I didn't really like Sarah any ways but still no one cared that she died even after the baby was born no one even mentioned her, I don't really have an opinion on alvins death, Kennys death ( if you picked that option ) was a good send off for him but the one where he kills Jane then you can just shoot him was bs and a few deaths I can't be bothered to talk about at this point
I'm with you on the complete the game entirely. Sometimes I think they suffer from stuff they plan but because they do the episodes I believe in between releasing them they veer off course in a sense. Also I think killing off Carver that early was a mistake.
-The story- was terrible. Build up this big bad villain and kill him of in an episode & a half. All that tension for nothin'. Also why w… moreon't they go darker with this series? I thought S2 was going to be dark (like Lisa RPG).
-Huds, puzzles & such - remember how old TTg had puzzles that took time off of a story, now? Not at all... complete rushness to the max.
-BUGSSS - at least get a new engine and copy paste characters into it, Christ... Im tired of seeing bodies going through the ceiling before loading screens...
-Character Development - this is what I noticed a lot in these recent games, they kill off a character that you know very little/ or nothing at all and they expect you to feel sympathy towards them! Why? such cheap Hollywood movie cliche...
-Release dates - create a deadline or finish the product entirely... (I don't really care about TTg games anymore after Twd season 2, but I do feel bad for folks how play 'em)
Nick just goes and hands her one in Episode 2 like 'here you go kid, I've never seen you use one of these things before and apparently I won't need it when a zombie attacks me in a few minutes...have fun!'
Quite present, QUITE present, like, 30 seconds screen time never to be seen or referenced again present, that kind of quite present.
… moreAnd @Mrbman9001 agreeing with your comments. I remember all that news about 400 Days being important too. I was convinced right up until the finale they were going to do something with those guys and they didn't. They're going to bring them back, right? God it'll suck if they never come back at all.
I also remember an article before Episode 1 of Season 2 came out with something about how you would have to convince people as Clementine into letting you use a gun, and it all to do with trust. In the end Clem is handed a gun regardless during most situations. Nick just goes and hands her one in Episode 2 like 'here you go kid, I've never seen you use one of these things before and apparently I won't need it when a zombie attacks me in a few minutes...have fun!'
It was okay but I just wanted to point out these mistakes. I think I'll eventually do a 5 things season 2 got right as well.
Thank you for the comment.
God bless you.
I don't hate s2 but there were a lot of things that were too obviously wrong about it to ignore. Most of them I believe occurred by episode 4 and 5.
Thank you for the comment.
God bless you.
Nick just goes and hands her one in Episode 2 like 'here you go kid, I've never seen you use one of these things before and apparently I won't need it when a zombie attacks me in a few minutes...have fun!'
Nick had his own gun as well though
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season 2 is the best for me! Clem
CUTE!
It wasn't bad but I think they still made a bit too many mistakes for me to simply overlook them. If season 3 is going to be great than I think they have to work on these/ They can't get complaisant.
And she matures quickly and that is something to admire given all the horrible things she has seen. I think the fact she lost Lee had a big impact on her maturing so fast. I do hope we see her in Season 3.
My 5 things.
Throughout season 2 is nothing but reference after reference after reference to season 1. Instead of giving us time to get attached to these characters, it was filled with "Here's a painting of a duck. Don't you miss Duck? You should miss Duck. Why don't you miss Duck?" Or "God, remember when Lee did that?" Yes. I understand that Clementine would miss the old group yes she should have time to remember and mourn the old group. But it never gave season 2's treatment the same flair that season 1's did.
.2 Lack of meaningful character development
Now season 1 had this kind of issue too. Katjaa, Duck, and Chuck could've used a hell of a lot more development. Now, don't get me wrong, I liked season 2's group. I was devastated as hell when Alvin, Rebecca, Luke, Nick and definitely Sarah bit the dust. ( I took Sarah's death REALLY hard. Like, "not able to sleep that night" hard.) but, I never got time to LEARN about these people. Nick and Luke talk about themselves for a bit. We got to learn about Pete. Sarah go a LOT of development. But...everyone else...we didn't learn anything about anyone else. Like, what the fuck's up with Jane? I get her sister died, was that ALL that needed to happen for her to become such a bitch?
.3 "I got lucky".
Fuck that. That still pisses me off.
.4 The railroad being to obvious.
Season 1 had a railroad. But on a first playthrough, I never noticed. Some parts I did, but it was during scenes that were so good, I didn't really care. Season 2? "Amid The Ruins" Is my most hated episode because of the Nick and scene and the fact that Sarah didn't live to episode 5 made me roll my eyes. Episode 3 and 4 were not really that affected by Nick and Sarah being alive. I used to get pissed when people let Ben die, because of all the development he gets in the fifth episode. In 3 and 4 of Season 2, Nick and Sarah being alive or dead leads to no development and they just kinda...hang around in the background. Say a line or two.
.5 400 Days being 100 percent POINTLESS!
Really? We had a whole episode for these people, and Bonnie's the only one we're gonna use? Really? Remember those tweets? "Remember to play 400 Days" "400 days is super important." Remember when we were all like "Man...what a bunch of fucking liars".
i've changed my opinion(s) on S2 so many times since it was released two years ago.
i've decided that it's okay.
7/10.
201-202 are great, others after are just okay, not bad. i really like all the endings now that i think about it. IMO that was the number one thing they got perfect was the ending(s). i'm intrigued to see how these unfold.
I feel like there are people that don't like season 2 so much that they go as far to make crap up about it. Constantly people make criticisms that don't make sense to me.
Yeah Job tweeted that but, come on. What else happened other than a few cameos and a couple of lines? As Mrbman said, they suffered the determinant curse, just hanging in the background saying a line or two.
Quite present, QUITE present, like, 30 seconds screen time never to be seen or referenced again present, that kind of quite present.
And @Mrbman9001 agreeing with your comments. I remember all that news about 400 Days being important too. I was convinced right up until the finale they were going to do something with those guys and they didn't. They're going to bring them back, right? God it'll suck if they never come back at all.
I also remember an article before Episode 1 of Season 2 came out with something about how you would have to convince people as Clementine into letting you use a gun, and it all to do with trust. In the end Clem is handed a gun regardless during most situations. Nick just goes and hands her one in Episode 2 like 'here you go kid, I've never seen you use one of these things before and apparently I won't need it when a zombie attacks me in a few minutes...have fun!'
This.
"Quite present" in all caps is meant to say "not really that present at all."
Although, let me say, I didn't mind that we didn't interact much with the 400 Days crew, apart from Bonnie. I would've rather have them have cameos—as they did—and really explore the rest of Howe's inhabitants. Wouldn't it seem a little too coincidental if Clementine, out of everyone, interacted heavily only with them, out of everyone at Howe's Hardware? I know I would've been bugged out.
Sounds like ppl have different opinions then you. Sounds normal. Sounds like the Internet.
You shouldn't be surprised at this point.
I'm not saying people aren't allowed to have a diffrerent opinion. I'm just saying that people are exaggerating.
My fault for misquoting you on that.
But in a sense that is also what the Internet is known to do. Shit it happens on both sides. Games get hyped a lil extra and critics blast it a lil extra. Well maybe a lot of extra depending on the fandom but you see my point.
Trolls are gonna troll
This. A thousand times this. Kind of hard to give a damn about anything that happens when you don't give a damn about anyone it happens to.
-The story- was terrible. Build up this big bad villain and kill him of in an episode & a half. All that tension for nothin'. Also why won't they go darker with this series? I thought S2 was going to be dark (like Lisa RPG).
-Huds, puzzles & such - remember how old TTg had puzzles that took time off of a story, now? Not at all... complete rushness to the max.
-BUGSSS - at least get a new engine and copy paste characters into it, Christ... Im tired of seeing bodies going through the ceiling before loading screens...
-Character Development - this is what I noticed a lot in these recent games, they kill off a character that you know very little/ or nothing at all and they expect you to feel sympathy towards them! Why? such cheap Hollywood movie cliche...
-Release dates - create a deadline or finish the product entirely... (I don't really care about TTg games anymore after Twd season 2, but I do feel bad for folks how play 'em)
I agree . People make up things to add a reason to hate s2.
Agreed. Especially on S2 being darker, I thought Amid The Ruins would be the grand master of dark episodes.
Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3
Episode 4
Episode 5
Nah just kiddin'. Same as previous writers!
Yes but I wouldn't want to play as her I think. I'd like to play as an adult this time.
Thank you for the comment.
God bless you.
Yeah the characters still being alive made almost no difference. Even Alvin was quickly taken away in Ep 3. I was mad about Sarah as well because she died like 30 minutes later. There was almost no point. 400 days well I didn't mind too much, we still got the cameos but you're right the decisions made had I think no impact on Season 2. I had a video about how Kenny survived so I was glad when he came back, just wish they didn't give him such a similar story line.
Thank you for the comment.
God bless you.
When I first finished S2 I hated it and was purely in love with Jane and Clem. I thought of S2 as at least 4.5-5/10.
Well, I ended up replaying it a few months later and actually came to appreciate it a little more. Though, the feeling of them making things seemingly favorable to Kenny even when you disagreed with him was annoying. Having the story revolve more around Kenny was its big undoing especially when you couldn't really choose how Clem felt about Kenny. After replaying I gave it a 6-7/10.
Honestly, how I feel about it still kinda fluctuates.
Yup.
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The only real choice present was who went with Tavia and who didn't.
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I think they had plans to make it more about trust but when it came to making the game they most likely changed a lot. Probably due to conflicts in the story arc or something like that.
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God bless you.
Yeah if she had too much interaction it may have made the difference in who came too much. They couldn't have it affect the story I think.
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God bless you.
It was okay but I just wanted to point out these mistakes. I think I'll eventually do a 5 things season 2 got right as well.
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God bless you.
I tried to keep it real in the video. S2 I think just had too many obvious mistakes to ignore. Most of them I believe occurring by episode 4 and 5. I plan on eventually making a 5 things season 2 got right video as they did make some improvements over season 1.
Thank you for the comment.
God bless you.
I don't hate s2 but there were a lot of things that were too obviously wrong about it to ignore. Most of them I believe occurred by episode 4 and 5.
Thank you for the comment.
God bless you.
Yeah you don't want to kill off everyone. However notice who they didn't kill off. Kind of speaks for what they may be planning to do next season. Of all the people to ensure they left alive, they chose Arvo.
Thank you for the comment.
God bless you.
I gave this season a 7/10 purely because of the way they handled the deaths of characters 1. Nick was one of my fav characters at the start and his character development was going well ( even though it slacked a bit in ep3) and then in episode 4 they give him a really shitty death where you don't know how it happened and the fact that no one gave a shit about it apart from Rebecca and sort of Luke. Luke's death was bs for so many reasons, I didn't really like Sarah any ways but still no one cared that she died even after the baby was born no one even mentioned her, I don't really have an opinion on alvins death, Kennys death ( if you picked that option ) was a good send off for him but the one where he kills Jane then you can just shoot him was bs and a few deaths I can't be bothered to talk about at this point
I'm with you on the complete the game entirely. Sometimes I think they suffer from stuff they plan but because they do the episodes I believe in between releasing them they veer off course in a sense. Also I think killing off Carver that early was a mistake.
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Yeah the picture with clem putting what appears to be human blood on her cheeks had nothing to do with the episode whatsoever.
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LOL.
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Nick had his own gun as well though
Job is a cool guy, but this was nothing but PR talk, plain and simple
god bless.
I agree there were quite a few mistakes but some of the stuff people say just makes no sense.
That's the thing about human beings though, they have two hands. He could've had it as backup, or done a Lara Croft.
And I er, didn't at all forget he had a gun, h-honest >.>