Well It's Been Over 2 Weeks Since the Season 6 Finale...
And I'm okay with it.
I still agree that the cliffhanger was unneeded, and everyone does, but I don't think that it detracts from the fact that everything that came beforehand was completely amazing and engrossing! Some of the darkest, scariest, and most thought-provoking scenes in the series took place in the finale, and I feel that nobody remembers that!
What about you? Are you still up in arms about Episode 16? Or do you think that, while it was ultimately disappointing, the rest of the episode was spectacular?
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I actually thought it was a great cliffhanger, I loved it and was really confused when I went on the internet and everyone was going apeshit.
It was terrible and remains terrible. Im really going to struggle to be positive towards that show anymore.
I was over it the next day, but I wasnt surprised about fans going nuts about it. People only seem to remember the endings, not everything in between no matter how good it may be.
The stuff in between wasn't the best either, the cliffhanger just rounded the season in a terrible way
Well, opinions. I thought it was good. I liked the sort of cat and mouse thing they had going. It was different from most people probably expected, quieter and more psychological.
Yeah, the episode was great. Especially with the acting. The cliffhanger wasn't that bad at all, but people always feel the need to overreact and be negative.
All of Season 6 was pretty bad.
I really disagree with that.
Well that's the problem with the cliff hanger, that episode would have been perfect if it showed who died. The whole build up, the feel of dread, and just knowing one of them is going to die was perfect build up, just for it to be all thrown away because you won't be feeling that in 6 months.
The problem is that every episode ends with a cliffhanger, there's no pay off whatsoever to episodes until next week/month/season. That's long term reason
Short term, it was just terrible writing. The scene did not need a cliffhanger as it would ruin it. In the scenario where he HAD to have a cliffhanger, it could've been written better in every way, we didn't get a cliffhanger, we just got a half-scene
But on the flip side, they have a lot of people still talking and speculating instead of people just going "I called it" and moving on. I dont know whose idea this was, Gimples or the networks, but I dont feel like its that much of a disaster.
It is, people are talking about how bad it was not who it was. Especially as according to them the whole scene was a cliffhanger because people wernt supposed to focus on who it was
Everyone talking about it is talking about how bad it was, and even then you know its one out of the (10?) people tied up, so that's as far as it goes.
It was just funny trying to see them justify their cliffhanger by relating it to a cliffhanger on Lost, although the one on Lost was completely different in every way possible.
I'm still annoyed about it.
The Negan scene was built up for all the second half of Season 6 and when Jeffrey Dean Morgan showed up, he did not disappoint. However the fact that the moment ended on a cliffhanger is a complete disgrace to the fanbase. It was already on strike 2 after the dumpster and Daryl's 'death' so ending the Season like this was bound to leave a bad taste in fans mouths.
Not just that, they also screwed up the SINGLE MOST ICONIC MOMENT in the comics history by ending on a cliffhanger. All of the tension and build up will be lost by the time Season 7 rolls around, not to mention the fact that the death will have certainly leaked by then. Negan killing Glenn, his jokes and treat to Rick is the single most brutal and terrifying moment in the comics history. They had a chance to be the most shocking and violent episode of TV since 'The Red Wedding' but decided to pull an (awful) ratings trap and a shitty hashtag # #WhoIsIt. Ending the Negan scene like that is like ending the Red Wedding like this-
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They have singlehandedly betrayed the show's even most loyal friends with this stunt and will suffer in the ratings once Season 7 comes around.
I still can't believe AMC thought this would be a good idea. Did they honestly think this would be a 'bold choice' in ending the Season and that everyone would love it? It is comedy gold however to hear Gimble, Kirkman and Chris Hardwick try to defend this. They should just release the death on YouTube and cut their losses. It's ironic, they thought this would get them higher ratings once Season 7 rolls around however it probably debut lower. This is the shows 'Jumping the Shark' moment. It's basically the TV equivalent of clickbait at the moment. I get that they needed a 'hook' to end the Season to ensure people tune back in next Season, but wouldn't seeing Negan murder a member of the group and the final shot of the group crying over the headless body of Glenn/Daryl/ whoever else be enough to keep you tuning in next Season? I can't wait to see Negan's comeuppance, How will 'insert character here' continue?, How can the group come back from this?
I am not up in arms about it any longer however, because I simply do not care anymore. The show has lost me. There is no coming back from this in my eyes. They are too far gone. Yes JDM was a great Negan, yes the acting is good (I love everyone on the show) but the writers and producers have gone too far this time and have betrayed their audience, THE REASON THIS SHOW IS STILL GOING IN THE FIRST PLACE! However, as I said, I don't care. I won't watch Season 7 on TV. Maybe if it shows up on Netflix or if I'm in a friend's house and there's nothing else on I'll watch it. Some thing that has helped me come to terms with this is the return of a FAR superior show to TV (Game of Thrones). I'm not mad anymore, just disappointed.
I'll be watching this instead-
6B, with the exception of one or two Episodes, was one of the best TWD (sub) Seasons ever. It's ridiculous how some people rate it so low just because the last 30 seconds sucked. Most everything else about 6B was great, and 6A was ok too.
Great cliffhanger? They just broke all the suspence of the scene, and all the espectations that the fans had since season 6 started on who he was gonna kill, a great cliffhanger would be if he killed the person on camera ( like Gleen ) and than someone runs towards Negan to prevent it, and then when he would hit that person too the screen goes black and it ends! Not hiding from us to get more audience on S07EP1
But people are still talking, and people who are unhappy tend to speak the loudest and most often if my experience reading forums is anything to go by. I say its not a disaster because people are hot about it now but as we get closer to the next season premiere people will cool down about the cliffhanger and start anticipating the show again. Even see the finale with fresh eyes. My feeling was also that who died wasnt really the important thing as much as seeing how Negan operates and how thats going to affect the survivors, Rick especially. But I see how people were expecting it to be exactly how it was in the comic and are disappointed that it wasnt. I totally get that. I just dont feel like this rancor is going to last all summer. When we see the premier, and hopefully we will get some payoff them, as Gimple promises, it will be totally different. But thats my view on the matter, I guess time will tell.
still terrible and that is never gonna change
I concur! I view the main plot point of the episode to be Rick's realization that everything has gone wrong, and not whoever dies!
I still understand why so many people are angry and "boycotting" the show (Which is ridiculous, because it's a fictional television show), but I think AMC's executive powers realize that they screwed up and can't take advantage of their viewers. They should've understood that people were most definitely going to come back for the next season, and it was a weird decision to do that on their part. But I think they learned.
Hopefully the premiere of Season 7 can still build up the anticipation from the finale, and if not, people learned some lessons. I believe the show is only going to get better from here (Which I believe it has been doing for the past 3 seasons!). But to each his/her own!
Right, it was a cop out but it's nothing that hasn't been done before in entertainment. And though it was a cheap low blow for marketing ratings it wasn't that awful and folks as usual just overreact. I always look at the comic and show differently.
I gave up after Glenn's dumpster fakeout.
Okay, too many comic characters have avoided their deaths because they are "fan favorites".
Examples:
Carol? She's the merged badass of the season! They can't kill her!
Daryl? Lol, and you thought the show was about Rick.
Abraham? ....Okay he can live. But in all honesty, he's a fan favorite and that's probably the reason he didn't die.
Glenn? How many times has this dude somehow escaped death? Seriously? It's getting real fucking annoying and if your fans are LAUGHING at a character surviving near death (again..) doesn't that say something?
Judith? Baby! We can't kill babies on TV! We barely got the word "damn" into a MATURE 18+ RATED SHOW! (Honestly, where the hell is this infant half the time?)
If only the unimportant characters are going to be dying, you'll eventually lose the fanbase that are probably in denial that the world's most famous TV Show bandwagon device is taking a huge plunge downhill.
I hated the first half of the season. The second half was meh.
Dude, if he likes the cliffhanger, he likes it.
Should've just stuck to the way the comics did it. I found it and still find it to be a real kick in the nuts.
I disagree.
This post right here is truth.
I am someone that watched the show twice all the way through before watching season six and I think people forget what the walking dead is really about sometimes. I really loved this season although there were some inexplicable hic cups and weird decisions that I don't all agree with.
But all in all this was a beautiful season and this season finale was just what everyone needed. Especially Rick. Can't wait for October. Can't wait for Negan. Can't wait for season seven
I think Kirkman killed people in the comics more for shock value then he does in the show.
At least in the show there is a substance for their death. everyone all the way from Noah to Denise. Read the comics again. Compare them to the show.
Hate to sound like a condescending writer but please understand when and how ppl should die and what shock value actually means and entails. Cause that's all the comics do.
I always thought Kirkman relied a little too much on shock value, at least in this comic. Was there a reason to make Glenn's death that gruesome? Im trying a couple of his other things, Invincible and Outcast and so far they have my interest, although Im very new in.
Now that is a good point and I agree. The forums are mostly the vocal minority. The exact same thing happened with Season 2 and Clementine.
I should have but I thought 'No way they'd do that again. They just did that to throw us off the fact that Glenn will die in the finale, right?'
But nope.
I actually think there was. If you wanted people to truly fear Negan (which the TV show to it's credit didn't do a bad job at), you have to show the full extent of his brutality. At least in my eyes.
My opinion hasn't changed. The writers and actors were building up so much hype for the finale and they didn't deliver. There was no reason that episode had to be 90 minutes long and there was no reason they couldn't just show the face of who was picked before going to the POV shot. They had a chance at their own Red Wedding type scenario and they 100% blew it. It's the lowest rated episode of The Walking Dead yet and for good reason. The writers messed up big time.
And we're going to know who was picked when filming starts and one of those cast members isn't around much, if at all.
It's probably different in comics where the screen is talking and there's no music playing so you'd have to be more visual. They still did a wonderful job in the show even with their being a cliffhanger
Yep, oh well im partially glad because i was always the only one in my group attempting to defend the show it will be a relief to not have to any more. Role on season 7 with the awful cliffhangers, ridiculous dialogue and all over the place plot.
Will keep watching the show, but won´t share a single tear when is cancelled, if that moment ever comes which seems unlikely considering the high rates this show gets. Wasn´t like the most watched TV show of the last year or the previous one? And is not even good.
And yes, I agree with almost everyone in this post, that cliffhanger was bullshit. Clearly they have no fucking idea who dies and are water testing, they will survey the internet to see what fan theory seems to be the less harmful and go on with it. Or simply go out and kill Abraham as he already had a short of goodbye moment with both Eugene and the lady he likes (can´t remember the name of useless character) and now he´s just at the same spot he was in the comics when he died, in peace with himself and doing nothing for the plot.
Why?
Because I liked it. It was a good scene.
Hey, I'm sorry, but I can't see your point just by saying 'It was good'; Altought if you don't want to explain it's also fine to me.
If he liked it, he liked it.