Whatever you did to Randall ill do to your crew
so in the episode 3 trailer norma says this line
and i would like to ask: what did you do to randall.
did you kill him?
hit him a couple of times? < (i did this )
break his arms or just hit him when your forced to? (the fight sequence)
(also by spoilers from episode 3 i mean the trailer)
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Killed him ;-;
But I don't think Norma will kill everyone of the crew, maybe just Oak (I think Jonas will kill Berto if you killed Zachary)
PD.: Norma is starting to act like Negan in some way or it's just me?
sorry for you ;-;
i just hit him a couple of times to try to make him shut up! (and cause he had it coming)
I feel really nervous about the finale. The trailer said that all of our choices will boil down to this, and looking back I've made some questionable decisions. I let Zachary die, didn't let Pete surrender, tightened the vice on Randall twice, and bashed in his head afterwards. Hell, I didn't even accept the sip of beer from Norma.
Now I feel like Norma and Jonas are going to torture the crew in front of us. I truly didn't think Norma would find the crew so I feel like I screwed the pooch.
why did you kill zachary?
Because he deliberately pointed a gun at two scared kids and pulled the trigger. Not to say I don't regret it at least a bit.
i think you mean: randall made him point the gun and he pulled the trigger by accident because if randall was not there he wouldnt have even touched the gun and wouldnt have threatened while trembling
... I killed him.
Shit, time to replay.
Honestly it could be a shitty Arvo choice from Amid The Ruins
There are a lot of what ifs. I also told Zachary to make Randall leave so maybe if Zachary had some guts he would have been the better person and done the right thing instead of killing a child.
To be fair, Sam was Zachary's target and Greg did chose to take the bullet. Though I am curious if Zachary meant to shoot AT Sam to begin with, or just at the wall behind her to give her a scare.
Besides, it's easier said than done to stand up to a psychopathic dominant figure who you've worked for an undisclosed amount of time, especially when he's pressuring you into trying to shoot someone.
This.
What if it's just another Arvo situation in Amid the Ruins where either option you choose ends up with a gunfight?
I believe thinking that Randall wanted Zachary to shoot one of them is a misconception, to be honest.
He says "I couldn't get anything of them. Zachary was useless" to Norma, which, in my opinion, proves that he was only using him to get information out of the siblings and Michonne. Norma tried the same earlier that day, except Michonne was in Zachary's place. Randall is visibly angered when he shot Greg, too.
So if Zachary was useless to Randall, then why even bring him in the interrogation room and give him the gun to begin with?
I've seen the scene where Norma interrogates the siblings and Michonne, and I don't see Michonne being given a gun to point at either Sam or Greg, correct me if I'm wrong.
And given Randall treatment of Zachary, I was given the impression that he was going to get angry no matter what Zachary does. He doesn't do a good enough job interrogating the hostages? He gets angry. He gets a little too sympathetic? He gets angry. He appears too weak in Randall's eyes? He gets angry.
He also doesn't strike me as the kind of man who knows how to interrogate his hostages without resorting to simple threats and violence, let alone teach others how to interrogate properly. For all we know Zachary was lead to the interrogation room under the presumption that he'll have to kill someone, since Randall is far from a moral person and clearly enjoys killing people, so why else was Zachary not told not to shoot someone before entering the room?
And as for the "I couldn't get anything of them. Zachary was useless line", it's doesn't really explain everything. Who to say that Randall knew that whether someone dies or not in that room because of Zachary being pressured by Randall, the hostages still wouldn't talk?
He says that to Norma after Zachary has shot Greg. I should've claryfied that from the beginning, so I apologize.
I believe Norma is—far—more reasonable than her brother, but that doesn't disprove the fact that he didn't expect Zachary to kill either of the siblings. I named this example to show that both of them were aiming at the same—use somebody else to get information about stolen goods. Of course, Randall's attempt was messier, and he is arguably, indirectly responsible for Greg's death. But if he enjoys killing as you say, then why didn't he kill them all himself?
Zachary successfully extracts information on where Sam has Monroe's bags of guns and ammunition? Randall gets happy, and tells Norma. It's just that we didn't see this happen.
We were there, in Zachary's room, when he was told that he'd have to interrogate Sam and Greg using a gun. If I am missing something, please let me know.
Randall can't predict the future, as far as my knowledge goes. I believe his reasoning was that, if Greg and Michonne's answers contradicted one another, force would have to be applied to get the truth. That doesn't mean that I agree with this principle.
No, it's fine. My point was that Randall knew Zachary for longer than we did, and I presumed that he should have known that he wasn't up to the task and yet gave him the gun to begin with.
I wouldn't really call it a fact considering how little we know about how Randall's mind work, but it's possible. But I guess the real problem is what we've, or at least I, know about Randall is that he's merciless and has no qualms in killing people, and that Zachary presumed that was what Randal wanted when he gave him the gun.
Probably because of Norma and how she would disapprove, I suppose. Since she wasn't around in Episode 2, it likely gave Randall the freedom to cause carnage, hence why he shot an innocent man in the head for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, and went on to describe it to his children with glee.
True, but I can't imagine Zachary's position would have been any better off. Randall seemed like a bully at heart, which is why I believe he decided to bring Zachary to his business not just to pile on the pressure on him to interrogate their hostages with a loaded gun, but to give him a verbal beating at every opportunity he gets.
Even if Zachary does well, Randall isn't going to have a change of heart over it, which is probably why Zachary gave into peer pressure over what he had thought Randall wanted to do, which he thought was to shoot a hostage, just to get another hostage to confess AND to make Randall stop bullying him.
My mistake. I've only just watched the playthrough online once, so it's easy to forget. Still, if he wanted them alive but not spoil their interrogation, he could have simply just took Zachary outside and explained it to him. Instead he gives Zachary the gun and just tells him to "fucking do something", and Zachary may have made the wrong call with knowing what he had wanted at the time.
That's how I see the whole situation, at least.
Since this is a short series with Michonne being the only character they have to revisit, I have a sneaking suspicion they'll go wild and make our choices REALLY matter, death everywhere depending on our decisions and fuck ups.
I have faith that choice will matter at least somewhat, considering how the trailer presents itself and the fact that this is the last episode.
Even if there is a gunfight no matter what (which there will be, lol) we at least will determine how many fighters each side has (whether Zachary and Randall are alive and whether you let Pete surrender) as well as the relationship with certain characters (Zachary + Jonas being friendly/hostile or just Jonas looking to avenge his boyfriend). Same path, different route but I wouldn't be surprised to have a lot of determinants and perhaps one or two different endings.
This is my biggest fear for the finale. I let Pete surrender and spared Randall yet I fear it will be for nothing.
My problem with the trailer was they showed a big fight at the end and I think no matter what you did to Randall, that fight WILL happen.. so I regret not killing Randall. I knew better but I let him live in the off chance Norma would take him and leave the family alone. That's what I get for not doing what I knew I should have done. I suppose the fight could be if you killed Randall and maybe there is a version with no fight, but I highly doubt it.
Dude, are you alright?
We are talking about Telltale, stop saying non-senses!! STOP PLEASEE
Pete and Siddiq are it he comics, so they have to survive no matter what too.
Well, the big fight mainly seems to be against walkers.
I agree I definitely think are choices will have large consequences in the finale. People are for sure going to die depending on our choices.
I'm gonna stay positive and hope not
Hopefully Jane won't bash Randalls brains out off camera if you spare him.
KILLED THAT SoB
I'm in Majority
You were right.