Curious about Kenny's Injuries (& PTSD)
Is there a doctor in the house... er, forums? 
Basically, I'm really wondering just how badly Kenny's injuries would've fucked him over. Not that TWD is the most realistic ever or anything, I mean, I kinda doubt Kenny would've been capable of much of anything after that beatdown w/o loads of painkillers (though, otoh, humans are capable of amazing things when pushed)
But
Carlos did kind of hint at 'brain damage' possibly occurring. Just what kind is left vague. But...Given Kenny's already untreated PTSD from previous season, the stress of his situation, and then losing Sarita like losing his fam all over again, it's like holy crap, TT really wanted to mess him up as much as possible. And to me, it only makes Jane seem even more manipulative than before, but that's somewhat of another topic entirely.
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Well he said we won't know if there was any damage to the brain until he wakes up. They never said anything afterwards so I think it's safe to say that his brain's okay.
Presumably. What I'm wondering is, if the injury made his hair-trigger anger issues that much worse. I can't imagine S1!Kenny beating up a young crippled kid, before or especially after Duck's death, for example.
As for Kenneth's PTSD, all of 2 days passed from Sarita's death. So he never actually got to the Post aspect, its all just Trauma.
But his orbital being crushed, I just chalk that up to being one tough sob.
PTSD not just from Sarita, but from all of S1 as well. Remember, Sarita mentions finding Kenny 'holed up' in a diner (or.. somewhere, I forget) and 'you should've seen his beard then!'. When Clem talks with Kenny about his past, he does this odd 'stare blankly off into the distance' moment before brightening with '... and then I met Sarita! Gosh, its great to have you back, Clem!' Paraphrasing as I don't remember exact wording.
But basically, it points to Kenny completely losing it after he got separated from Lee. He's starting to go back to his old self with Walter's group, though still a tad off (angrily snatching the box of decorations away from Sarita, crude comments about Nick & Luke being a pair, his reckless plan of attack vs ten armed guards, etc).
Yea, definitely. It's really why I hope S2 ain't the last we see of him. He's clearly on a bit of a redemption arc, even mentioning to Clem how something inside of him is broken but he's really trying to keep it altogether. I feel for the guy. Obviously, I don't expect him to be a main character again, as it seems a lot of people chose to kill him off, but I really hope TT gives us a satisfying conclusion to his storyline, for those that chose to go with him outside of Wellington.
If he has to go out then, dang it, at least let him finally find a damn boat
Everyone has PTSD in this world. Im not saying Kenny didn't have it rough, because he most certainly did. Its a problem with all versions of TWD, these characters go from one trauma to the next so rapidly that everyone should buckle under the stress.
Im no expert on CTE but Im pretty sure the problems of emotional disturbance from those events dont manifest quickly. So I wouldn't chalk up his actions post beatdown to the effects of brain damge.
Not trying to be negative towards Kenny but it's definitely possible, I think, considering how he wanted Lee to leave Ben to die and did murder Larry but he has changed since Season One, so I think it'd be definitely less likely.
Regarding Ben, they were being overrun by walkers and had to leave the watchtower quickly. Ben was even saying to leave him behind, trying to get his hand out of Lee's. So it was more of a 'Dude wants to die, so fuck him, we gotta go NOW' and less any sort of malicious intent. I mean, if Ben lives, then Ken even sacrifices himself for him in the next episode, despite how Ben got his family killed.
And Larry's death wasn't murder, as he was already dead or soon would be. I highly doubt Lily could've saved him, but really, I'm no doctor.
Point being, both situations you mentioned were more 'we gotta do this terrible thing to survive' and less about angry feelings. Whereas the beatdown with Arvo... Eeesh.
Maybe not suicide, but I do think Kenny had given up on life and was surviving purely on instinct by the time Sarita found him. I doubt we'll get a flashback in S3 - S2 would've been way more appropriate, but it wasn't his perspective - but, who knows.
At this point, I'm really hoping TT gives him a proper send-off in S3, for those that stayed with him, and not just a quick line from Clem explaining his absence.
Looks like his orbital bone was pretty much completely crushed. Given that they can't exactly perform surgery on him, chances are, it isn't going to heal all that well. He might still be able to see out of it, given enough time. Or if it's bad enough, he might not even be able to open his eye period, which unfortunately, seems to be the case, given how it seems to look in episode 5.
I doubt his injuries are anything life-threatening, though. The worst case scenario is that he goes blind in his eye. There's a chance that he suffered brain damage, but since no one has any of the medical equipment needed to be able to tell for sure, it's up in the air for now. Until we see definite signs of it, I'm going to say he's probably fine.
So yeah, if worst comes to worst, his eye won't heal correctly, and he might not be able to open it. Not to mention his eye will probably be all droopy and misaligned due to the bone damage. Beyond that, if he is able to open his eye again, his vision will probably be a bit impaired, and could possibly result in eventual blindness if he's unlucky enough.
As for his anger issues, I'd just chalk that up to him being angry over getting the shit beat out of him. And the fact that he's probably in quite a bit of pain, which would make his already bad temper even worse.
I was about to say the same thing to prink thanks Daze. Im fed up of people saying he murdered Larry as if it were a fact when it simply is not because the death was deliberately left ambiguous so we wouldn't know for sure. Telltale themselves confirmed this at the time i believe. A little twitch of the mouth means nothing unless you see a clinically dead person open their eyes and show clearer signs they are alive.
Yeah, that is the correct word, doesn't make any better tho
Wouldn't be saying that had he turned though if you were in a real life situation such as that lol
That's very clearly not what happened. Ben only expressed that he wanted to be let go and die of the fall after Kenny left a second time.
What about infection?
What about the food situation?
What about protection?
What about when this place falls?
I don't think the writers had wound infection, depth-perception issues, migraines, dizziness, lapse of judgement and planning skills, memory loss, and all the rest in mind after Kenny was beaten to near death by Carver with a handheld radio.
...Okay, maybe the lapse of judgement and planning skills, but still.
Well, to be fair, Carlos was kinda busy being dead at that point, so who knows.
Nah, its made relatively clear Kenny really wanted Lee to drop Ben, since not only does he show contentment/irritation if you do/don't back at the house, but he determinantly says "do what you gotta do" when he gives you that look at the clock tower. It just so happened to be the perfect opportunity to do so.
As for Larry, I recall hearing a voice clip implying that he was originally gonna be able to survive that heart attack at one point. Not that it really makes any difference in Kenny's decision, but just sayin.
Da fuck was this?!
Uh, you sure that's not just Kenny being Kenny?
Is that Sarita or Michelle?
I believe there's dialogue with Lee in season 1, where Kenny admits he cried when having to put down the family's dog. I think it's after the Larry situation, maybe? I could be wrong, though, but yeah, Kenny definitely said that at some point in the first game.
Wow, if that's true, I'm not sure if that's touching or insensitive...
He wasn't dead when he woke up.
It's when Lee gets mad at him for killing Larry and Kenny explains that he didn't like doing what he did but it had to be done.
"You think I liked doing what I did? I'm the one who couldn't stand to see the family dog get put down.
Not a doctor, but I'm Red Cross certified in first aid and reasonably familiar with the basics of emergency medicine.
Realistically, it would be hard to guess whether or not Kenny could survive that beating without surgery. There's a few things that could kill you or put you in a coma in these circumstances. Particularly, swelling, bleeding or shock. When you get bludgeoned, especially against the ground, your brain is liable to get knocked around in your skull (or the skull could fracture) which could cause swelling or hemorrhage. Shock can also kill as it lowers your blood pressure, causing all sorts of unpleasant stuff to happen, even a good while after the fact.
Assuming, there isn't serious cerebral bleeding/swelling, Kenny would still have a lot of problems. His eye-socket (basically reduced to mush) is a magnet for infection, without proper cleaning and possibly surgery. The orbital is shattered and will probably never heal correctly without surgery, same with the eye. He'd also probably have a concussion, which could cause long term changes in his behavior. It would probably be excruciatingly painful. Without use of both eyes, Kenny also loses his depth perception and field of vision, greatly reducing his chances of long-term survival. The pain, concussion and sudden blindness would do no favors for his mental state. Combined with losing Sarita, he's actually doing much better than others in that situation would.
Tl;dr: In the universe of TWD, it would be a devastating injury that would probably catch up with him sooner or later. Realistically, Kenny would probably be completely incapacitated by his injuries. It's a crapshoot whether he would live for minutes, hours or months.
When Carlos woke up, he was undead.
When Kenny woke up.
I'm just messing around.
There we go! That's what I hoped he meant.
To be fair, he would have to observe Kenny's behavior for a bit to get a diagnosis, which they didn't have time for.
Touche. But from what we can see in the game, it doesn't seem like his wound is causing any serious problems for him. If anything overly serious was wrong, we probably would have seen signs of it already. But who knows, that could quickly change for him, depending on how things go.
Maybe we'll see him suffering a bit more from it in S3, provided he shows up.
But he didn't turn... there's literally no indications of him turning and I think I would still be saying that if I were in a real life situation - killing is still killing after all :x
If you kill someone that is being resuscitated...it is murder.
Somehow worse than it was?
And there's no real "clear" indication he was alive either. I think that one episode of Fear The Walking Dead sums up the meat locker scene perfectly as to why i wouldn't risk trying to revive Larry so killing is killing yes but certainly not done for monsterous reasons
Not if he was already dead as the ambiguous scene showed
Carlos couldn't diagnose what a nostril hair is
Why not?
EDIT: Oh, you're doubting his abilities as a doctor.
You nailed it DabigRG haha! Good o'l Carlos! Uses big words like capitulation but can't diagnose a dog bite lol