I don't believe she contributed that much in the game. The game was good until her and Omid showed up. They added virtually nothing to the game. All she did was complain about most of the ideas or situations, wanted medicine for Omid, was pregnant and wanted to take Clementine after Lee died, then she's killed off at the start of the new season. The plot holes added nothing to season 1, With what was going to happen in season 1 with the stranger, we didnt need her or Omid. To me, the group of Lee, Clementine, Ben Chuck and Kenny was good until they came a long.
But, it's just my opinion, if people liked Christa and Omid, that's fine, i didn't find them interesting or relevant to the story.
I don't hate any of the characters enough to sentence them to a gruesome and tortuous death. Of course, I wouldn't feel too bad if Danny St. John got chomped on.
I don't believe she contributed that much in the game. The game was good until her and Omid showed up. They added virtually nothing to the g… moreame. All she did was complain about most of the ideas or situations, wanted medicine for Omid, was pregnant and wanted to take Clementine after Lee died, then she's killed off at the start of the new season. The plot holes added nothing to season 1, With what was going to happen in season 1 with the stranger, we didnt need her or Omid. To me, the group of Lee, Clementine, Ben Chuck and Kenny was good until they came a long.
But, it's just my opinion, if people liked Christa and Omid, that's fine, i didn't find them interesting or relevant to the story.
Takes 2 to tango mate.
She should've woken Lee and told him the situation, instead, her negligence got her kidnapped and the group had to … morego save her, which resulted in 2 characters dying and one being separated from the group. How you can't find any fault on her part only proves what Kenny said to her in amid the ruins.
After season 1 i thought the same, but yeah season 2 was bad.
I have said that it was the writers fault.
Why introduce 2 new characters when the game only has 2 episodes left and the main story is done?
And then kill them off at the start of the new season.
The stranger lost his mind.
Even if you don't agree to steal, he will still blame Lee because of all the terrible things he did according to him.
He will always blame Lee for something no matter how good you try to be.
The stranger set out for revenge, but then he decided to manipulate Clementine with her parents and then she decided to believe him instead of telling Lee.
Kenny and the rest are to blame on a small scale but if the biggest culprits are Clementine and the stranger because had clementine not believed him, she wouldn't of got kidnapped, Lee wouldn't of got bitten, Ben wouldn't of died and Kenny would've still been with the group.
Her actions caused the group to have to worry about saving her instead of their plan and that was to get on the boat, and they also lost that because while they went searching for at the morgue, thinking Vernoon took her, his group stole the boat. So, we can blame her for that as well.
Sorry but no...Clementine is no more guilty than any number of children that get preyed upon by sickos every year. Lee should told her flat out that her parents were dead. Kenny chose to steal...costing the Stranger his family...he could have waited to see if the owner was coming back, but chose not to. Now truthfully...no one person is to blame totally...but assigning a 9 year old the weight guilt is wrong.
The stranger lost his mind.
Even if you don't agree to steal, he will still blame Lee because of all the terrible things he did according t… moreo him.
He will always blame Lee for something no matter how good you try to be.
The stranger set out for revenge, but then he decided to manipulate Clementine with her parents and then she decided to believe him instead of telling Lee.
Kenny and the rest are to blame on a small scale but if the biggest culprits are Clementine and the stranger because had clementine not believed him, she wouldn't of got kidnapped, Lee wouldn't of got bitten, Ben wouldn't of died and Kenny would've still been with the group.
Her actions caused the group to have to worry about saving her instead of their plan and that was to get on the boat, and they also lost that because while they went searching for at the morgue, thinking Vernoon took her, his group stole the boat. So, we can blame her for that as well.
If we are being honest here, I don't think Lee needed to go to Jail for killing the senator, in fact it goes against his rights as a American. The Senator was in his property at the end of the day and it was probably self defense.
Fuck Larry.
Again solely blaming Kenny for stealing from the Stranger is again typical hate for the man when the actual fact is, they all agreed to steal minus Clem and determinant Lee.
Sorry but no...Clementine is no more guilty than any number of children that get preyed upon by sickos every year. Lee should told her flat… more out that her parents were dead. Kenny chose to steal...costing the Stranger his family...he could have waited to see if the owner was coming back, but chose not to. Now truthfully...no one person is to blame totally...but assigning a 9 year old the weight guilt is wrong.
I do, but that is irrelevant when you encounter the convicted killer with a little girl that is not his daughter, and you, your family and the girl are about to be trapped with him for life.
Lee did tell her, on the train he can say to her they're dead and that they have to move on, he also implies to her when they get back from crawford, that theyre gone, which makes her cry. then she takes off when Lee is asleep and when the stranger is enticing her to come outside, that's when she should've told Lee, she said they were a team and they should work together, yet she betrays lee and goes out to listen to the stranger, rather then tell Lee first. Like i have said , The whole group chose to steal, not just Kenny, Lee and Clementine can choose not to be involved, but the rest of the group agrees, so if you want to blame people, blame the rest of the group, not just Kenny. You won't blame Clementine, because you're one of those people who gives her the benefit of the doubt because of her age and her gender.
Wheater you choose to be biased towards her it doesn't change the fact that Clementine was the one to blame, she chose to believe the stranger and desert the group. the groups plan was to get on the boat and get into the water, they had to abandon that plan to save Clementine because of her negligence, it resulted in Lee getting bit because he was trying to find clementine which he never would of had to, had she not listened to the stranger, Ben dying and Kenny getting separated as a result of trying to get to Clementine.
And as i said, Clementine can even admit that she blames herself for Lee's death so you don't have a leg to stand on. Lee says "i didnt steal from you" and the stranger replies "but think of everything you did". Even not stealing, the stranger still finds you at fault, you can't win with him, his lost his mind.
Sorry but no...Clementine is no more guilty than any number of children that get preyed upon by sickos every year. Lee should told her flat… more out that her parents were dead. Kenny chose to steal...costing the Stranger his family...he could have waited to see if the owner was coming back, but chose not to. Now truthfully...no one person is to blame totally...but assigning a 9 year old the weight guilt is wrong.
I do, but that is irrelevant when you encounter the convicted killer with a little girl that is not his daughter, and you, your family and the girl are about to be trapped with him for life.
Katjaa really got on my bad side for killing herself in front of Duck, I'm not mad about the suicide but rather the way she did it.
Ben would repeatedly cause us trouble, and at rare times he would show no remorse. But the straw that broke the camel's back for me was when he left Clementine for dead. I understand he was scared, but I couldn't forgive him after that.
Bonnie, I had it out for her since the Carver situation. She was a very selfish woman, too. Constantly egging Clementine on, trying to use her as a tool of some sort - the way I saw it. Then in my playthrough she blamed Clementine for Luke's death and left her for dead.
Arvo in my playthrough blamed Clementine for the robbery even though I didn't take anything from him. I really wanted to steal that supplies, but again I decided not to - just like season 1 with The Stranger. Yet again I'm blamed anyway, so that ticked me off.
Feeding those people to walkers is no different than feeding the walkers with said liabilities. If we strictly apply a morally equivalent version of that rule, you would deserve to be eaten by walkers as well.
We are—or were—discussing Larry's murder attempt of Lee; hence, his motivations are fundamental and should be taken into consideration. Something that happened ninety days later, even though it is vital to their relationship, simply isn't part of the picture.
As in Shel and Roman feed? I just assumed this was an ancient Rome type of scenario.
Plus, who wants to get close enough to walkers to feed somebody to them?
If The Walking Dead writers know their terminology, the killing executed by Lee had been planned. I am confident that, legally, a killing is only considered murder when it has been planned beforehand.
Besides, the senator was not an intruder because Lee's wife let him into their shared property to have sex with him.
If we are being honest here, I don't think Lee needed to go to Jail for killing the senator, in fact it goes against his rights as a American. The Senator was in his property at the end of the day and it was probably self defense.
Fuck Larry.
Feeding those people to walkers is no different than feeding the walkers with said liabilities. If we strictly apply a morally equivalent version of that rule, you would deserve to be eaten by walkers as well.
If The Walking Dead writers know their terminology, the killing executed by Lee had been planned. I am confident that, legally, a killing is… more only considered murder when it has been planned beforehand.
Besides, the senator was not an intruder because Lee's wife let him into their shared property to have sex with him.
We are—or were—discussing Larry's murder attempt of Lee; hence, his motivations are fundamental and should be taken into consideration. Some… morething that happened ninety days later, even though it is vital to their relationship, simply isn't part of the picture.
While I do agree to a certain extent that Clementine is to blame for all the unfortunate things that happened in Ep 5(I actually find myself getting mad at her thinking about it) but don't you think throwing her into a herd of walkers is way to far? It's not like she is the spawn of Satan and wanted Lee to die, truth is Clementine was just indenial and wanted a glimpse of hope that her parents were still alive. I place 90% of the blame on the stranger for manipulating Clementine in the first place.
Lee did tell her, on the train he can say to her they're dead and that they have to move on, he also implies to her when they get back from … morecrawford, that theyre gone, which makes her cry. then she takes off when Lee is asleep and when the stranger is enticing her to come outside, that's when she should've told Lee, she said they were a team and they should work together, yet she betrays lee and goes out to listen to the stranger, rather then tell Lee first. Like i have said , The whole group chose to steal, not just Kenny, Lee and Clementine can choose not to be involved, but the rest of the group agrees, so if you want to blame people, blame the rest of the group, not just Kenny. You won't blame Clementine, because you're one of those people who gives her the benefit of the doubt because of her age and her gender.
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Because he hates him.
Do you consider that he did that because his wife was committing adultery, which is, I think, illegal in most parts of the USA?
I don't believe she contributed that much in the game. The game was good until her and Omid showed up. They added virtually nothing to the game. All she did was complain about most of the ideas or situations, wanted medicine for Omid, was pregnant and wanted to take Clementine after Lee died, then she's killed off at the start of the new season. The plot holes added nothing to season 1, With what was going to happen in season 1 with the stranger, we didnt need her or Omid. To me, the group of Lee, Clementine, Ben Chuck and Kenny was good until they came a long.
But, it's just my opinion, if people liked Christa and Omid, that's fine, i didn't find them interesting or relevant to the story.
I don't hate any of the characters enough to sentence them to a gruesome and tortuous death. Of course, I wouldn't feel too bad if Danny St. John got chomped on.
I would try to protect everyone in my group.
I agree their inclusion made less sense after learning they were barely in season 2.
But it was Kenny's fault...he stole from the Stranger and started the whole mess.
After season 1 i thought the same, but yeah season 2 was bad.
I have said that it was the writers fault.
Why introduce 2 new characters when the game only has 2 episodes left and the main story is done?
And then kill them off at the start of the new season.
The stranger lost his mind.
Even if you don't agree to steal, he will still blame Lee because of all the terrible things he did according to him.
He will always blame Lee for something no matter how good you try to be.
The stranger set out for revenge, but then he decided to manipulate Clementine with her parents and then she decided to believe him instead of telling Lee.
Kenny and the rest are to blame on a small scale but if the biggest culprits are Clementine and the stranger because had clementine not believed him, she wouldn't of got kidnapped, Lee wouldn't of got bitten, Ben wouldn't of died and Kenny would've still been with the group.
Her actions caused the group to have to worry about saving her instead of their plan and that was to get on the boat, and they also lost that because while they went searching for at the morgue, thinking Vernoon took her, his group stole the boat. So, we can blame her for that as well.
Sorry but no...Clementine is no more guilty than any number of children that get preyed upon by sickos every year. Lee should told her flat out that her parents were dead. Kenny chose to steal...costing the Stranger his family...he could have waited to see if the owner was coming back, but chose not to. Now truthfully...no one person is to blame totally...but assigning a 9 year old the weight guilt is wrong.
How do we know the Senator was in his property?
Again solely blaming Kenny for stealing from the Stranger is again typical hate for the man when the actual fact is, they all agreed to steal minus Clem and determinant Lee.
Kenny: "the rest of us are taking this stuff"
I do, but that is irrelevant when you encounter the convicted killer with a little girl that is not his daughter, and you, your family and the girl are about to be trapped with him for life.
Lee did tell her, on the train he can say to her they're dead and that they have to move on, he also implies to her when they get back from crawford, that theyre gone, which makes her cry. then she takes off when Lee is asleep and when the stranger is enticing her to come outside, that's when she should've told Lee, she said they were a team and they should work together, yet she betrays lee and goes out to listen to the stranger, rather then tell Lee first. Like i have said , The whole group chose to steal, not just Kenny, Lee and Clementine can choose not to be involved, but the rest of the group agrees, so if you want to blame people, blame the rest of the group, not just Kenny. You won't blame Clementine, because you're one of those people who gives her the benefit of the doubt because of her age and her gender.
Wheater you choose to be biased towards her it doesn't change the fact that Clementine was the one to blame, she chose to believe the stranger and desert the group. the groups plan was to get on the boat and get into the water, they had to abandon that plan to save Clementine because of her negligence, it resulted in Lee getting bit because he was trying to find clementine which he never would of had to, had she not listened to the stranger, Ben dying and Kenny getting separated as a result of trying to get to Clementine.
And as i said, Clementine can even admit that she blames herself for Lee's death so you don't have a leg to stand on. Lee says "i didnt steal from you" and the stranger replies "but think of everything you did". Even not stealing, the stranger still finds you at fault, you can't win with him, his lost his mind.
He was an annoying twerp.
Still ignoring the fact that he went with maximum effort to save his life though.
Larry's a piece of shit.
Lee stated to the stranger that he got sick and cancelled class and went home and when he got home, he saw the senator and wife in bed together.
Season 1: I'd feed Katjaa or Ben to the walkers. I'd protect Clementine.
Season 2: I'd feed Bonnie or Arvo to the walkers. I'd protect Kenny.
Contributed at taking care of Clementine for eight months.
What you point out is irrelevant to what's being discussed.
I would not have expected this from you, Bundy.
I'd protect the "liabilities" and feed to the walkers anyone who would feed said "liabilities" to the walkers.
You know what, I actually agree with that. It's a potential Karmic Death and a Darwinistic Test of their abilities.
I'm sorry!
Katjaa really got on my bad side for killing herself in front of Duck, I'm not mad about the suicide but rather the way she did it.
Ben would repeatedly cause us trouble, and at rare times he would show no remorse. But the straw that broke the camel's back for me was when he left Clementine for dead. I understand he was scared, but I couldn't forgive him after that.
Bonnie, I had it out for her since the Carver situation. She was a very selfish woman, too. Constantly egging Clementine on, trying to use her as a tool of some sort - the way I saw it. Then in my playthrough she blamed Clementine for Luke's death and left her for dead.
Arvo in my playthrough blamed Clementine for the robbery even though I didn't take anything from him. I really wanted to steal that supplies, but again I decided not to - just like season 1 with The Stranger. Yet again I'm blamed anyway, so that ticked me off.
Then lee's past is just as irrelevant.
Feeding those people to walkers is no different than feeding the walkers with said liabilities. If we strictly apply a morally equivalent version of that rule, you would deserve to be eaten by walkers as well.
I thought it was guaranteed the walkers would eat the people we chose.
We are—or were—discussing Larry's murder attempt of Lee; hence, his motivations are fundamental and should be taken into consideration. Something that happened ninety days later, even though it is vital to their relationship, simply isn't part of the picture.
As in Shel and Roman feed? I just assumed this was an ancient Rome type of scenario.
Plus, who wants to get close enough to walkers to feed somebody to them?
This is just hypothetical! We won't get close to the walkers.
If The Walking Dead writers know their terminology, the killing executed by Lee had been planned. I am confident that, legally, a killing is only considered murder when it has been planned beforehand.
Besides, the senator was not an intruder because Lee's wife let him into their shared property to have sex with him.
Oh, okay. Metaphorgotten, I guess.
So, it is the basic Roman method then?
It is a method that gets them devoured without putting us at risk.
K.(This tangent went on a little long.
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Hey, that's fine by me. I think the ones I'd save are far better people than I am, and I already have s******l tendencies.
But Lee didn't plan to kill the senator, If anything based on some dialogue he had no intentions of killing him.
Then why was he charged with murder?
Is this just a plot hole in Season One?
Are you honestly suggesting that larry's attempted murder of lee should not take into consideration the immediate service he just provided?
Because that's asinine.
The fact that lee just saved his life should be a massive motivation and incredibly important to what he decides to do at that point.
It is far more relevant than lee's past to the current decision making.
Kenny hands down.
Sarah.
Damn, you have shit against Luke too? You just hate all the hot people in TWD don'tcha? Lol.
While I do agree to a certain extent that Clementine is to blame for all the unfortunate things that happened in Ep 5(I actually find myself getting mad at her thinking about it) but don't you think throwing her into a herd of walkers is way to far? It's not like she is the spawn of Satan and wanted Lee to die, truth is Clementine was just indenial and wanted a glimpse of hope that her parents were still alive. I place 90% of the blame on the stranger for manipulating Clementine in the first place.