Could Clementine possibly be working for the bad guys?

edited December 2016 in The Walking Dead

The trailer shows moments where I think this could be possible.

  • She doesn't have A.J, maybe a community offered her safety in exchange for her working for them.
  • She has a shotgun four years into the apocalypse
  • Javier's hands are bonded together like he's been taken prisoner
  • Javier is alone
  • Clementine walks behind Javier at the end of the trailer with her gun in her hands as if she's making sure he won't try anything.
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  • That would be a beast plot and would make sense. Javier seems not to trust Clem in the first trailer, seeing that he has the ammo. Clem being the "bad guy" would make the revenge plot make sense. Clem would probably what to devise some kind of plan to kill off the guy in charge with Javier but gets caught and they have to flee .

  • It could be possible, the teaser seems to show that Javier is captured by Clem, also Telltale has been super shady about Clem and what her role is other than "she's in it."

  • Maybe she is deep undercover, but she better not be working with bandits or monsters. She was raised better than that.

  • Well good and evil is a bit subjective..perhaps this is a misunderstanding and they will all laugh about this later. Or perhaps he stole something from her community. Or maybe she has gone bad...it happens.

  • Javier: "Haha, remember that time when you pressed that hot iron on my neck? Good times."

    Clementine: "Yeah, and that time when you brutally murdered AJ? Damn, that was a good one."

    Leader of baddies: "I sure am glad that we could sort these little misunderstandings out."

    everyone laughs diabolically as Clementine passes Javier the plate with the human steak

    Well good and evil is a bit subjective..perhaps this is a misunderstanding and they will all laugh about this later. Or perhaps he stole something from her community. Or maybe she has gone bad...it happens.

  • Not gonna lie, that would be fucking awesome.

  • I don't think she'd be working for "the bad guys" but maybe someone who is a threat to Javier. It would be really interesting if that's what Telltale gave us as the plot, but then I beg the question, why do they need each other?

    • Clem needs Javi as prisoner (maybe for a trade?)
    • Javi needs Clem because she knows where his family is kept?
      Whether it turns out to be true or not, we don't know. But I like that conflict you threw in there, my friend.
  • That's immediately what I thought was happening. She seems way too well equipped.

    It would be a little boring, though. Feels like she'd just be Bonnie 2.0 from when they were at Carver's camp.

  • I thought so too, especially after seeing Javier in restraints in the preview. But I really dislike it and hope it's more complicated than that. Here's why:

    • If you played as Clementine throughout Season 1/2 as open minded as possible and play Javier with a similar respect, then this is going to be weird and kind of a joke.
    • Clementine, of all people, should know the danger of a cult-like following of people after Carver's camp in S2E3, and from what we've seen this one looks even worse than Carver's camp. Considering she can completely tear into people like Reggie and Bonnie for passively following Carver, why is she now doing the same?
    • It's basically guaranteed that Javier and Clementine will drop this opposition to each other and work together, at least temporarily, as shown in videos and screenshots. Why such a sudden change? Is it caused by Javier's branding despite his probable innocence, leading to Clementine's revelation that the group she was with are psychopaths after all? Does the group betray her in regards to AJ? And how does Clementine's attitude to Javier change in all of this? Because in every screenshot and video, none of them seem particularly pleased or thankful to be in each others presence.

    I know all of this can be explained with: "Between Season 2 and Season 3 stuff might have happened to cause a change in personality and intentions, and we'll see why in flashbacks." But this still remains as one of the biggest reasons why I'm sceptical about this game - namely the use of flashbacks to facilitate and explain any drastic changes in Clementine.

    I'm hoping it's just a misunderstanding on the part of Clementine. I think she, like Javier, will be after those in charge of the Capricorn farms. Clementine will mistake Javier for being a part of their group and take him hostage with the hopes of trading him for AJ or something. Once she realises she made a mistake, she'll release him and then properly go to find the main group (as seen in the first teaser).

    But iunno.

  • Tweet: How far would you go to save your family (It said something like that)

    AJ is taken from Clem and Clem is forced to do there dirty job. Clem said no to help them and they took her finger and the next one more no will kill AJ. So she does the job. The job is to, I don't know, get Javier for them. In the meantime Javier is trying to find/save his family members.

  • edited December 2016

    Or... what if, Clementine choose to keep AJ there. Even though they might be bad people, she believes that this community is the best bet for AJ. If they have walls and food, that's all AJ needs. Hence the "When family is all you have left…how far will you go to protect it?"

    Tweet: How far would you go to save your family (It said something like that) AJ is taken from Clem and Clem is forced to do there dirty

  • Nope, anyone on Clementine's sh** list is the bad guy in my eyes :)

  • It sounds cool but it's kinda out of character for my Clementine.

  • What if its the other way around? What if Javi is working for Capricorn Farms. He does say he did what he had to to protect his family. So perhaps he has been a "Road Agent" of sorts for the Capricorn people in order to keep his family safe.

  • She probably just dosn't trust Javier. Maybe they don't meet on the best of terms. Clem is well armed and Javier isn't, so Javier gets to play prisoner this time.

  • I love the idea.

  • edited December 2016

    I feel like it could work for some of you guys saying Clementine would never stoop so low.

    • She could be working on the inside in order to get revenge (maybe to avenge Kenny or Jane, maybe she realized they wouldn't be willing to kill children and joined)
    • She could be extremely misinformed, they could've easily brainwashed an impressionable preteen/teen in order to convince her that they aren't bad people. She realizes that they have been lying to her when she sees them torturing Javier and wants revenge on them for accidentally doing their dirty work and sending innocent people to their deaths.
    • AJ is a big factor in why Clementine would make a decision like this as well.
  • That sounds funny. Clementine the once weak and naïve little girl holding a full grown adult hostage.

    DoubleJump posted: »

    She probably just dosn't trust Javier. Maybe they don't meet on the best of terms. Clem is well armed and Javier isn't, so Javier gets to play prisoner this time.

  • Considering she can completely [turn] into people like Reggie and Bonnie for passively following Carver, why is she now doing the same?

    She wants to live. If she is working for the same group that cuts off her finger, they definitely instill some fear into her. She's bound to anything for them, especially if they have A.J.

    Davissons posted: »

    I thought so too, especially after seeing Javier in restraints in the preview. But I really dislike it and hope it's more complicated than t

  • accidentally doing their dirty work and sending innocent people to their deaths.

    That's sooo dark. That would explain why Clem doesn't appear to have a soul.

    AAA_Jane posted: »

    I feel like it could work for some of you guys saying Clementine would never stoop so low. * She could be working on the inside in orde

  • Love the idea, I don't know though, they may go another direction with the game.

  • Considering her role models include an almost excon, a temperamental redneck, a critical preggo, and a delusional darwinist, I somehow doubt that.

    Maybe she is deep undercover, but she better not be working with bandits or monsters. She was raised better than that.

  • Protagonist Centered Morality, eh? Sounds about right.

    XgenDaNcEs posted: »

    Nope, anyone on Clementine's sh** list is the bad guy in my eyes

  • Her parents were good people who raised her in a nice area, and 3/4 of the people you listed are pretty great people.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Considering her role models include an almost excon, a temperamental redneck, a critical preggo, and a delusional darwinist, I somehow doubt that.

  • Eh...true enough, I guess.

    Her parents were good people who raised her in a nice area, and 3/4 of the people you listed are pretty great people.

  • Considering her role models include an almost excon, a temperamental redneck, a critical preggo, and a delusional darwinist, I somehow doubt that.

    Wut?

    DabigRG posted: »

    Considering her role models include an almost excon, a temperamental redneck, a critical preggo, and a delusional darwinist, I somehow doubt that.

  • Lee and Jane.

    Considering her role models include an almost excon, a temperamental redneck, a critical preggo, and a delusional darwinist, I somehow doubt that. Wut?

  • edited December 2016

    Looks like we were partially right guys.

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  • All but the temperamental redneck.

    I'm just kidding! :p

    Her parents were good people who raised her in a nice area, and 3/4 of the people you listed are pretty great people.

  • How so?

    AAA_Jane posted: »

    Looks like we were partially right guys.

  • She's pointing the gun at him, which doesn't necessarily mean she's working for the bad guys but certainly shows she's not on Javier's side in the beginning.

    Nikolaj-11 posted: »

    How so?

  • Perhaps Xavier is a bad guy...

  • He's Javier's evil twin!

    Perhaps Xavier is a bad guy...

  • I can't be asked to remember if the vaguely hispanic pretty boy's name is spelled with an X or J.

    DabigRG posted: »

    He's Javier's evil twin!

  • I'd like the choice to keep working with them or not tbh. I really like the idea of Clementine working with a community that's considered to be the bad guys, yet we know her. We know she's not bad, for the most part. So it really shows that grey area between good and bad.

  • edited December 2016

    Why not? It's not that hard and names beginning with X aren't that much more common in Latin languages.

    I can't be asked to remember if the vaguely hispanic pretty boy's name is spelled with an X or J.

  • That's just custom gesture, yeah? ;D

    Point and question, not being pointed at and questioned. Else you die in the world of WD :p

    AAA_Jane posted: »

    She's pointing the gun at him, which doesn't necessarily mean she's working for the bad guys but certainly shows she's not on Javier's side in the beginning.

  • Because Javier so far looks and has a back story as bland as his design. And it's hard to memorize a characters' name when all I know about him is that there'll be a part in the game in which he is taken hostage by a child.

    Nikolaj-11 posted: »

    Why not? It's not that hard and names beginning with X aren't that much more common in Latin languages.

  • edited December 2016

    But there is no conflict of information, not source has named him Xavier, ever.

    Anyway, let's not make more of a issue of it, I was just curious.

    Because Javier so far looks and has a back story as bland as his design. And it's hard to memorize a characters' name when all I know about him is that there'll be a part in the game in which he is taken hostage by a child.

  • It's good.

    I still sometimes confuse Kenny for fuckwad or Jane for dumbshit.

    Javier is lucky I only call him Xavier every now and again...

    Nikolaj-11 posted: »

    But there is no conflict of information, not source has named him Xavier, ever. Anyway, let's not make more of a issue of it, I was just curious.

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