The thing is, how could Kenny shoot from his chair to the road if the car crashed into a tree on the left side of the road?
Where is the realism in that????
Jane never would've gotten pregnant in the first place. Her death makes zero sense; even the Kenny fans say so.
Kenny's death actually does though, since he's so fucking stupid in the first place. "Hey, let me teach a pre-teen how to drive and not put on my own fucking seatbelt." Fucking idiot.
Just like his other stellar plans like, "Hey! In order to escape this truck let me punch this guy with a gun and take it and shoot his other armed comrades! There's no chance that either I or the rest of my group will get killed, even accidentally!"
Or "Hey! Let's go out into the herd and just improvise our way out of Howe's, meaning I have no plan on what to do when we actually meet those walkers. That'll work!"
Or "Hey! Let me provoke this Carver guy by cussing him out to his face. I'm sure I'll be fiiiiiine."
Or "Hey! Let's go out into the winter wilderness with a crying baby in subzero temperatures and a child and try to find a place that I'm not even sure exists, and I'm not even sure what state it's in, but I'm sure it's somewhere, even if it'll probably take me weeks to find it!"
Please.
Sorry but I cant see how people enjoy the kenny scene when they hate the jane one. Admit it they are both horrible scenes for both characters. Whether you hate either character or not its a disservice
Jane never would've gotten pregnant in the first place. Her death makes zero sense; even the Kenny fans say so.
Kenny's death actually do… morees though, since he's so fucking stupid in the first place. "Hey, let me teach a pre-teen how to drive and not put on my own fucking seatbelt." Fucking idiot.
Just like his other stellar plans like, "Hey! In order to escape this truck let me punch this guy with a gun and take it and shoot his other armed comrades! There's no chance that either I or the rest of my group will get killed, even accidentally!"
Or "Hey! Let's go out into the herd and just improvise our way out of Howe's, meaning I have no plan on what to do when we actually meet those walkers. That'll work!"
Or "Hey! Let me provoke this Carver guy by cussing him out to his face. I'm sure I'll be fiiiiiine."
Or "Hey! Let's go out into the winter wilderness with a crying baby in subzero temperatures and a child and try to find a place… [view original content]
When I get New Frontier I will not be importing my saves. I want to start with the Wellington ending with Kenny being a boss somewere and Jane is dead.
My mind hasn't even processed Jane or Kenny as being dead in Season 3, it basically is just a bad nightmare Clementine had, because I cannot comprehend writing that bad being real.
Although what I did find really interesting was that the age of clementine and AJ indicates that she was living with Kenny for longer than both Lee and Christa, meaning she spent most of her childhood after the apocalypse with him, experienced more with him, travelled more with him, learned new things with him as she began to enter adulthood, looked after a baby for two years with him, and generally had a lot more time to bond with him.
This is kind of a huge deal, and I feel like she should have had a more emotional and impactful connection with this person who has been a massive part of her life, even though the 3 months with Lee were very meaningful, there is this massive gap with both Christa/Omid and Kenny that were completely missed as story opportunities, and they completely undermined any sort of emotional connection Clementine would have no doubt built with her guardians, she only ever looks mildly disappointed at losing contact with Christa, and all the emotion was completely sunk in the new Kenny segment by poor pacing, writing, no build up and tonal dissonance.
My mind hasn't even processed Jane or Kenny as being dead in Season 3, it basically is just a bad nightmare Clementine had, because I cannot… more comprehend writing that bad being real.
Although what I did find really interesting was that the age of clementine and AJ indicates that she was living with Kenny for longer than both Lee and Christa, meaning she spent most of her childhood after the apocalypse with him, experienced more with him, travelled more with him, learned new things with him as she began to enter adulthood, looked after a baby for two years with him, and generally had a lot more time to bond with him.
This is kind of a huge deal, and I feel like she should have had a more emotional and impactful connection with this person who has been a massive part of her life, even though the 3 months with Lee were very meaningful, there is this massive gap with both Christa/Omid and Kenny that were completely missed as story opportuniti… [view original content]
I had Clementine leave with Kenny at end of season 2 so I got the Kenny death - car accident. Very sad - to me, he was the one who cared the most about the kids and stayed true to that to the end. The worst part was that after all he went through - he would end up a walker. I just found out in this thread that Jane killed herself - wow - no thought of others, as usual - totally selfish. I may go back and have Clementine and AJ stay at Wellington just so I don't have to know for sure that Kenny ends up a walker!
Personally, Kenny's scene was the best because it's engaging, the context gives the brevity of the scene so justification, and it mostly makes sense for the character. My only real problems with it is the rushed ending, where there's not much time spent on him post crash and the fact that he goes from being able to sit up and throw Clementine a decent distance away to just laying there like a crash dummy as the walkers peck at him.
Jane's, unfortunately, once again runs into many of the same problems I've always had about her: again, for the eulogic time, there are ways of doing this in a way that doesn't feel too hamfisted/meanspirited and make the character seem like a ...sociopath(I'm sorry, I sincerely couldn't think of a better word in general). There's some great ideas/subtext to it that could've/should've been used to flesh out her character after Season 2 and give her fate more context than people give it credit for, but it's just such a poorly done scene in general that it just sorta loses you for a bit before smacking you in the face with that ending.
Jane never would've gotten pregnant in the first place. Her death makes zero sense; even the Kenny fans say so.
Kenny's death actuall… morey does though, since he's so fucking stupid in the first place. "Hey, let me teach a pre-teen how to drive and not put on my own fucking seatbelt." Fucking idiot.
Just like his other stellar plans like, "Hey! In order to escape this truck let me punch this guy with a gun and take it and shoot his other armed comrades! There's no chance that either I or the rest of my group will get killed, even accidentally!"
Or "Hey! Let's go out into the herd and just improvise our way out of Howe's, meaning I have no plan on what to do when we actually meet those walkers. That'll work!"
Or "Hey! Let me provoke this Carver guy by cussing him out to his face. I'm sure I'll be fiiiiiine."
Or "Hey! Let's go out into the winter wilderness with a crying baby in subzero temperatures and a child and… [view original content]
I'll tell you what doesn't make sense, Telltale's writing when it came to the deaths.
Jane would never hang herself, she wasn't Jamie and it just seemed so out of character to do so, especially not even leaving a note for Clem. On the other hand you could say it was in character due to how selfish it was to leave behind a girl and a baby all alone not even closing the door which could have put the kids in danger if the noose had snapped and she managed to get out of the room and kill them whilst they were sleeping.
As for Kenny, i'll tell you what was really idiotic, the fact Telltale wrote it to make Clem lose control of the car when they seemingly weren't going that fast at all. I'm no expert but third gear in a manual car does not go that fast and i was surprised that it made someone go through the windshield. Also there was nothing in the road that caused her to lose control, i mean why did she? No sense. Just a badly written scene to kill off Kenny, same with Jane. Just awful writing and rushed to hell. Something i hope we can all agree on.
Jane never would've gotten pregnant in the first place. Her death makes zero sense; even the Kenny fans say so.
Kenny's death actually do… morees though, since he's so fucking stupid in the first place. "Hey, let me teach a pre-teen how to drive and not put on my own fucking seatbelt." Fucking idiot.
Just like his other stellar plans like, "Hey! In order to escape this truck let me punch this guy with a gun and take it and shoot his other armed comrades! There's no chance that either I or the rest of my group will get killed, even accidentally!"
Or "Hey! Let's go out into the herd and just improvise our way out of Howe's, meaning I have no plan on what to do when we actually meet those walkers. That'll work!"
Or "Hey! Let me provoke this Carver guy by cussing him out to his face. I'm sure I'll be fiiiiiine."
Or "Hey! Let's go out into the winter wilderness with a crying baby in subzero temperatures and a child and try to find a place… [view original content]
Oh but Jane disregarded Clem and AJ's safety as well. Twice in fact. Once in No Going Back and in season 3 when she left the door open after she hung herself. On the off chance the noose snapped, AJ and Clem could have been attacked in their sleep if she found a way out of the room.
it made sense for someone like Kenny to completely disregard everybody's safety if it means reaching a destination sooner, as he did from No Going Back.
sigh just yet another thing someone finds to critiscise him with...typical. Um? How did he disregard everyone else's safety? To me it seemed like it was his own safety that was at risk rather than everyone elses and im no expert but I don't think third gear doesn't go fast enough to fly through the windshield? There was fuck all reason why Clem lost control of the car as well except for Telltale plot reasons to kill off Kenny. Plus he got the walkers attention and pushed Clem away to safety before they attacked him, that is not disregarding someone's safety either.
In a different story outside The Walking Dead, a character such as Kenny would have be killed off a long time ago and not many would have sh… moreed many tears for him.
One of the few reasons why he lived for this long, which I suspect and as harsh as it sounds, is because of fan-service.
Jane never would've gotten pregnant in the first place. Her death makes zero sense; even the Kenny fans say so.
I found it ludicrous myself that Jane would have gotten pregnant from one random individual by pure chance, I would have imagined that it would take more than one act of sex for Jane to be impregnated.
And even if she was pregnant, I just can't buy Jane committing suicide on the spot after the realization that she's carry a baby either.
Kenny's death made more sense in comparison, since it made sense for someone like Kenny to completely disregard everybody's safety if it means reaching a destination sooner, as he did from No Going Back.
Exactly. That's why I was glad I went with Kenny. He died protecting Clementine and AJ, he stuck it out to the end. What did Jane do? Take the easy route because she couldn't handle the problem that SHE started. Nobody told her to have sex with Luke.
"This character I didn't like's death makes sense because he's an idiot."
"This character I liked death's didn't make sense because she's not an idiot."
Feel like there might be some bias here....
Sialark was just being bitter as usual Deltino. She hates Kenny yet whenever there is a thread about him she just has to post something to make herself feel better. Something hateful of the character she probably secretly likes but doesn't want to admit it lol
finally dies due to his own idiocy, which should've happened several times over by now.
To be fair, that actually tends to happen mo… morere often than it should in real life, too
There are a lot of stupid motherfuckers out there that have done some really stupid shit, but miraculously didn't get themselves killed in the process
All I can think of is that Jane was too preoccupied with the fight that Kenny started, and the fact that Kenny was about to kill her for som… moreething she technically didn't do likely made her too panicked and angry to think straight and confess to them about her plan.
Either that, or Jane honestly believed that from what she's seen with Kenny's recent behavior and interaction with their team before they broke off, Kenny was too far gone with listening to reason and would have blocked out what Jane could have confessed to them about the baby being alive.
As for the aftermath with Jane surviving and not bringing up the baby right away, Jane was likely recovering from the shock of almost being killed, and she was likely not thinking clearly at the time.
The only instance that I would believe that Jane didn't care about the baby whatsoever if she had continued to deceive Clementine after the fight when there is no reason to do so, but that … [view original content]
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He hit the tree, and was deflected into the road
you know, like in pinball
You mean
like Walking Dead Pinball
Sorry but I cant see how people enjoy the kenny scene when they hate the jane one. Admit it they are both horrible scenes for both characters. Whether you hate either character or not its a disservice
When I get New Frontier I will not be importing my saves. I want to start with the Wellington ending with Kenny being a boss somewere and Jane is dead.
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My mind hasn't even processed Jane or Kenny as being dead in Season 3, it basically is just a bad nightmare Clementine had, because I cannot comprehend writing that bad being real.
Although what I did find really interesting was that the age of clementine and AJ indicates that she was living with Kenny for longer than both Lee and Christa, meaning she spent most of her childhood after the apocalypse with him, experienced more with him, travelled more with him, learned new things with him as she began to enter adulthood, looked after a baby for two years with him, and generally had a lot more time to bond with him.
This is kind of a huge deal, and I feel like she should have had a more emotional and impactful connection with this person who has been a massive part of her life, even though the 3 months with Lee were very meaningful, there is this massive gap with both Christa/Omid and Kenny that were completely missed as story opportunities, and they completely undermined any sort of emotional connection Clementine would have no doubt built with her guardians, she only ever looks mildly disappointed at losing contact with Christa, and all the emotion was completely sunk in the new Kenny segment by poor pacing, writing, no build up and tonal dissonance.
Well, to be fair. Neither episode was quite as awfully handled as No Going Back was.
That fucking donkey-punch of an episode was nearly unbearable for me to sit through.
I had Clementine leave with Kenny at end of season 2 so I got the Kenny death - car accident. Very sad - to me, he was the one who cared the most about the kids and stayed true to that to the end. The worst part was that after all he went through - he would end up a walker. I just found out in this thread that Jane killed herself - wow - no thought of others, as usual - totally selfish. I may go back and have Clementine and AJ stay at Wellington just so I don't have to know for sure that Kenny ends up a walker!
By the way - Happy New Year all!
I can't....
Best thread of 2016.
Best thread of 2016.
Best thread of 2016.
Personally, Kenny's scene was the best because it's engaging, the context gives the brevity of the scene so justification, and it mostly makes sense for the character. My only real problems with it is the rushed ending, where there's not much time spent on him post crash and the fact that he goes from being able to sit up and throw Clementine a decent distance away to just laying there like a crash dummy as the walkers peck at him.
Jane's, unfortunately, once again runs into many of the same problems I've always had about her: again, for the eulogic time, there are ways of doing this in a way that doesn't feel too hamfisted/meanspirited and make the character seem like a ...sociopath(I'm sorry, I sincerely couldn't think of a better word in general). There's some great ideas/subtext to it that could've/should've been used to flesh out her character after Season 2 and give her fate more context than people give it credit for, but it's just such a poorly done scene in general that it just sorta loses you for a bit before smacking you in the face with that ending.
Best image ever lol.
Kenny died so that Tripp's beard may live.
I'll tell you what doesn't make sense, Telltale's writing when it came to the deaths.
Jane would never hang herself, she wasn't Jamie and it just seemed so out of character to do so, especially not even leaving a note for Clem. On the other hand you could say it was in character due to how selfish it was to leave behind a girl and a baby all alone not even closing the door which could have put the kids in danger if the noose had snapped and she managed to get out of the room and kill them whilst they were sleeping.
As for Kenny, i'll tell you what was really idiotic, the fact Telltale wrote it to make Clem lose control of the car when they seemingly weren't going that fast at all. I'm no expert but third gear in a manual car does not go that fast and i was surprised that it made someone go through the windshield. Also there was nothing in the road that caused her to lose control, i mean why did she? No sense. Just a badly written scene to kill off Kenny, same with Jane. Just awful writing and rushed to hell. Something i hope we can all agree on.
Brave is what i'd call it and noble.
Oh but Jane disregarded Clem and AJ's safety as well. Twice in fact. Once in No Going Back and in season 3 when she left the door open after she hung herself. On the off chance the noose snapped, AJ and Clem could have been attacked in their sleep if she found a way out of the room.
sigh just yet another thing someone finds to critiscise him with...typical. Um? How did he disregard everyone else's safety? To me it seemed like it was his own safety that was at risk rather than everyone elses and im no expert but I don't think third gear doesn't go fast enough to fly through the windshield? There was fuck all reason why Clem lost control of the car as well except for Telltale plot reasons to kill off Kenny. Plus he got the walkers attention and pushed Clem away to safety before they attacked him, that is not disregarding someone's safety either.
(waits for usual reply of disagreement) lol
Amen to that @LeeEverett
Oh they won't admit it but there certainly is bias. They don't feel better about things unless they say negative things about Kenny
Sialark was just being bitter as usual Deltino. She hates Kenny yet whenever there is a thread about him she just has to post something to make herself feel better. Something hateful of the character she probably secretly likes but doesn't want to admit it lol
Jane "No Clem, it's time to put this crusty piece of shit out of his misery"
(Jane continues walking towards him with the knife as he is backing off and then charges towards him)
No she didn't intend to kill him at all (sarcasm).
I second (or third?) that. He was gonna get beat up anyway.
welp, this thread escalated quickly
No kidding. I woke up, saw this and just went, "Holy shyte!"