Everyone hates me now. How do I make this right?
I really enjoyed episode 4. I feel we got more emotion and more development this time around. However, I feel my choices were a mess and now everyone hates me (Javi) or at least I think they do.
- I chose not to kill Lingard because I felt he could have had an impact later. Clementine was not pleased with this choice.
- Gabe seems to be mad at me because I am trying to keep him safe. He brought up shooting Conrad and now Tripp and Eleanor hate me.
- I told Kate that I could not be with her because of David and that did not sit well with her.
- I chose to save Tripp but Joan shoots him instead. David was not happy about that and I am sure Ava will feel betrayed so that's two more people angry with me
- And finally, I chose to take the deal so we can regroup and make a plan, but David took matters into his own hands. I'm sure he is pissed because I didn't shoot Joan. Clementine is also displeased because David ruined the deal and told me I can't trust him.
So after all these events, it feels like Javi has no allies. Am I the only one who is in this situation? This is the first time I have felt like I made all the wrong choices. I was even thinking about replaying the episode to get a better outcome but I am probably just going to stick with it to be honest. Is anyone else's Javi despised right now? Now it seems like the only person who would help me out in episode 5 would be Max because I spared him lol.
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Jesus still loves you
The Conrad decision really came back to bite a lot of people. Right now I think Clementine is the only one who isn't mad at me. I'm just wondering why wasn't Eleanor taken prisoner either? Did she just let them take Tripp? I wonder how things change if Conrad was still alive.
She contacted Joan and warned her about the plan while Clementine and the Garcias were gone. If I had to guess, Ava cutting out was the New Frontier coming into the room and both she and Tripp were arrested for resistance and conspiracy.
Go back to episode 2 and save Conrad.
Suggesting someone goes back nearly 4 hours to change the outcome of a story that couldn't be much more contrived or uninteresting if it tried to be, just to get some new dialogue scripting.
I think they should start renaming this episode. Maybe something like:
"Episode 4: Stop Yelling at Me!"
Or:
"Episode 4: My Friends Are Assholes!"
Or maybe even:
"Episode 4: Gabe's Busting Our Balls!"
Not detecting an obvious joke and then being a prick, that's never a good look friend. Do I have to put a kappa face on shit?
I feel as though that was sort of the point. Losing the trust of your allies thus making the stakes of the season finale run a lot higher.
Not detecting an even more obvious joke and being a prick to a prick...
"Episode 4: Everyone's understandably pissed at me!"
You just gotta try your best to make it up to them. That's all anyone can do. Just try and hope for the best.
Work on your jokes
David still likes me, Gabe still likes me, clem still likes me... Pretty much everybody still likes me. I don't know about Tripp because I accidentally got him killed
Do you still like David?
Yeah, kinda.
Work on your responses and try thinking before replying.
Can't believe you didn't detect that I was obviously responding to your joke as a joke and not being serious in the slightest.
Maybe my humor is just a little too over your head?
Kappa
I do too. I just wondered if people's feelings about David changed after his actions at the execution. (for those who tried to take Clint's deal)
I shit Joan because I knew David was a hot heat and he DID say he was going to do something if javi didn't so I took the opportunity to kill Joan while it was there.
Look on the bright side. Now you have no one to disappoint. But Clementine doesn't seem to be mad maybe just a little disappointed.
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4 hours ECIT? This isn't season 1 dude haha! More like 2 hours if not less!
Damn, you're right...
I guess my joke has more layers than even I know about.
I did the same decisions as you did, mate. The only one that still likes us is Clementine I believe.
In my game, Jesus was pretty pissed at me for killing Badger, so even he doesn't like me.
Episode titles are only 3 words long, so it would be more like:
Episode 4: My Friends Suck
Episode 4: Gabe's an Asshole
Episode 4: Puberty's a Bitch
Episode 4: Don't Hate Me
How? Which of there reactions is understandable
Gabe has no reason to do what he does whatsoever, he even says it in the next scene
Clementine can kill the fucking doctor herself if she wants some information
Tripp can be pissed of but he doesnt allow any explanation and gets violent
Kate wants you to be in a relationship with her against your will
David wants you to be suicidal and attack people or choose his friend over our "friend"
it doesn't look like it's going to matter. No choices so far have had any impact (from my point of view)
I told David that his men killed Mari, 30 seconds later he's talking and acting like I didn't say anything
Clem got pissed at me for something but then still hugged me
Along with Max and David I outed Joan. Clint got pissed then 10 seconds later sided with her anyway, as did the rest of them
Clem got pissed that I didn't kill Lingard, yet still allies with me
Gabe out's my shooting of Conrad, yet Tripp still implies for me to save him
I went back and forth between cocky and sensitive during the baseball scene, David got pissed, then was appreciative, then pissed, then thanked me and left fairly happy at the end
I'm going to assume that regardless of who you think you've pissed off by the end of episode 3 (4), everyone's going to be fine and ally with you in episode 4 (5) anyway because there's an extreme lack of solid storytelling that also seems to have a complete inability to deviate from it's set course
The only living character that doesn't hate my Javi is AJ and it's only because Javier hasn't met him yet.
Okay I'll give you Gabe and Clem, those two are a little more debateable.
Tripp however just found out you killed his friend and lied about it. I don't know how anyone could be calm and understanding in that situation.
I wasn't even thinking about Kate and David but fine:
Kate reacted in a way that's to be expected. Most people don't take rejection very well. I don't blame anyone who doesn't want a romantic relationship with Kate but I can understand why Kate reacted that way.
As for David, from his perspective you're letting his greatest friend die. It's all a matter of perspective. And he doesn't get mad at you for accepting the plan, he goes against it. Small difference but still a difference.
I can't help but find this a bit humorous.
I imagine Clem is still on good terms with me, I killed Lingard, because it was his wish, and it would help Clementine, Ava was also a pal, but she is dead now
, but everyone else seems to hate me, and I am frankly done with David after that stunt he pulled, I just fucking wanted everyone to get safely out of Richmond, Clementine was right, David is not good to have around, he is too unstable and too emotional, no way he is good to have as part of the group, I also dont think Clementine can hold me responsible for Davids actions, especially after I told her that I dont trust him in episode 3, I really hope we get a choice to leave David in the finale, I was actually starting to like David and thought he would become an asset, but now he has fucked everything up when we had a chance to get out safely, what a dumbass.
I think Clementine is pretty much the only person who still likes me in my playthrough, and I wouldnt have it any other way, now that Ava is dead and Eleanor is a backstabbing cunt, there is not really anyone except Clem that I am concerned about anymore
1- Well, I did kill him because of Clem factor. I wanted to know where AJ is. But, if you dont kill him you will lose less point against Joan during the execution.
2-Let me tell you something, Eleanor will rat you out and tell your plan to Joan, regardless killing Conrad or not. So it doesnt make a difference if she will mad at you or not. She is a betraying bitch, not a helpful person anymore. But I really felt sorry about Tripp and I understand his reaction halfly but I am not regret of that decision because I saved my family member and a teenage girl who doesnt have to do anything about the fucking New Frontier and also Francine as well. Conrad was totally out of it and didnt think through. I killed him and saved my nephew.
Gabe is a fucking hypocrat and he thinks he is a fucking badass who can manage to steal a truck on his own and lead the group for saving his dad. He is a fucking dumb, stupid, whiny, douchebag who just only cry about his dad and doesnt see to have a problem with sacrificing anyone in order to save his dad. Dont give a shit about him. He doesnt worth it. This ungrateful, hypocrat piece of shit will go first if I have the choice.
3- I accept Kate's offer. Because I used to think that Javier has feelings for her as well, regardless of what we did. You rejected her offer, it could be useful with David in finale, actually. But there is no way she will survive out of that kind of explosion so I guess it doesnt matter anymore.
4- Sticking to your friends is not a sucked up option, even a bitch like Joan admits that. But I picked Ava unless you, I couldnt think that Tripp will have our back after Conrad. But Ava could be a great companion with David.
5- I actually wanted to kill that sassy bitch. But, I trusted Clint. It was made the most sense. Killing Joan would only cause so many problems in that situation. David didnt think through and all he wanted was getting revenge. Getting along was the smart choice. It did work until David fucked it up. Its not our fault. Even David will bring you this in finale, you can pull this card and give some sense into him. Becuase he awfully needs it.
Regardless of what you do nearly everyone will be passed at you at some point.
I feel the same. I am doing the best I can but everyone keeps getting on my case about everything. Has anyone ever bothered to ask how Javi feels? No, they only think about themselves!
I wonder if there is any way to fix things with Tripp? I shot Conrad and chose Ava to live....
A very good point.
Heads up: You should really credit the artist when posting stuff like that.
Things aren't looking good for you and Tripp then.
But he still watch your back if you paid attention. He said that I will cover you in the final shooting. Maybe we can fix this somehow.