Are they messing up TWD games reputation ?

Let's start by saying this season 1&2 were expertly made 10/10 in my opinion but this season is missing something.They messed up somewhere in the writing it's not like the first two

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  • The first two episodes at least feel nothing like a TWD Game (easy choices, no interest in characters since they didn't get enough development, only a tiny bit of hubs etc.), in Episode 3 and 4 it feels like the game is picking up the pace a bit, it feels like it's setting up to be an interesting game but it might be too late for that since we are already at Episode 5. If they would make more episodes (like in Minecraft) I feel like ANF might come back and build an interesting story, since we only get 4 episodes this season it feels like the game just started, feels like I'm waiting for Episode 3 and not 5, they are wrapping things up too fast and we might not get a satisfying conclusion to this season.

  • It's because they scraped off the excess waste from S2 and recycled it into a horribly failed product

  • I'm sure the series is still loved but on this site its becoming hated.

  • edited May 2017

    Without a doubt, this season has been much, much weaker than the first two. And I feel like it's a combination of problems.

    The writing is pretty poor for one thing.

    The episodes are so short compared to before, with virtually no hubs to interact with the characters or solve some little puzzles.

    You don't get to play as clementine, the character we've all been invested in for 5 years, and she seems out of place here completely.

    The way they killed off Kenny in a lame fucking car accident caused by clementine being reckless/careless is legitimately one of the worst things I've ever seen, whether you liked Kenny or not, that was just pure laziness by telltale or just the worst decision ever for a character that had made it 2 seasons for some people.

    Gabentein

    Clem's radical personality change.

    Not enough intense action like at the end of episode 4. Moments like that are where heroes are made. Most of the season has been just... boring.

    I'm sure I could go on here, but there are plenty of things that have just left a sour taste in my mouth this season. And this is also just my opinion, maybe some people are loving this season. Hopefully, now that the guy in charge is the OG, we'll get quality work in the future. Maybe even episode 5 can redeem what's been mostly a boring season thus far.

  • Agreed. The first two episodes were just not as good as they could have been to be quite frank. Everything that happened before we reached the New Frontier just made no sense. The rational behind taking Javi prisoner because of "stealing gas" just was just hard to believe. It was great to see Clem ofcourse, but how the heck did she cut down the massive tree? It also felt like even if you were a complete ass to her, there wasn't a big a enough difference in her disposition towards you when you get to Episodes 3 & 4. I'm lastly still confused on how Tripp went from being the leader of a group to immediately following you around after he didn't trust you a few hours maybe a day ago. It just wasn't coherent for me.

    Other than that, Episodes 3&4 were very enjoyable for me, and I think it would be interesting to see if they did more than just 5 episodes for this season. However, now that Joan is dead. I'm wondering what the big goal of the season will be after they escape. I hope to God it doesn't turn into how episodes 4 and 5 went in season 2. That's when the season lost its touch.

    The first two episodes at least feel nothing like a TWD Game (easy choices, no interest in characters since they didn't get enough developme

  • They mess up episode 1 when conrad said to tripp "he thought he kick her a** out" talking about clem and TNF came for clem instead Javier

  • edited May 2017

    Season 1 and season 2 had great stories. And those great stories did not make it into season 3. Can you even call this a season 3? It has absolutely nothing to do with what happened in seasons 1 and 2. TellTale should've called it a whole new game, not a sequel to season 2. This game has been a meme fest and its so cringy

  • maybe you're missing something because this game isn't called season 3 to begin with. it's called a new frontier.

    Season 1 and season 2 had great stories. And those great stories did not make it into season 3. Can you even call this a season 3? It has ab

  • edited May 2017

    Maybe you missed it but this season has been called season 3 under the name ''A New Frontier''

    Looks like youre a newcomer that Telltale has been talking about

    maybe you're missing something because this game isn't called season 3 to begin with. it's called a new frontier.

  • maybe i did miss it so why don't you show me where exactly telltale themselves refer to a new frontier as season 3? in everything i've seen they specifically go out of their way to not refer to it as season 3.

    and maybe u wanna check my registry date vs your own and see who's the newcomer

    Maybe you missed it but this season has been called season 3 under the name ''A New Frontier'' Looks like youre a newcomer that Telltale has been talking about

  • It's loved outside of the forums. People seem to forget that this is only a minuscule percentage of the game's fanbase.

  • Dude do you even realize what you said ? These forums are what matters not god damn reviews from ign or god knows that other sites where they don't even remember all of the characters in the games and they say that episodes 1 and 2 are better than episode 4.
    These forums are filled with actual fans who actually know what they want from twd games and what's wrong with them, the other "fans" of the franchise are just brain washed people who go along with whatever review they find online without actually realizing what's wrong with the game

    ralo229 posted: »

    It's loved outside of the forums. People seem to forget that this is only a minuscule percentage of the game's fanbase.

  • The bar was definitely set high after both previous games were really good (the first one often called "a masterpiece"), so it's understandable that people had exorbitant expectations, maybe without even knowing it - you have a strong feeling that the game is gonna be great, because it's from the original, hard working and award-winning developers and their previous games had something that got you interested or dedicated to this franchise. Also, it's been a long wait. All those theories, fanarts, self-made projects, etc., everything kept us hyped, and ANF just didn't feel like it was worth the devotion.

  • Considering telltale had no direction or clue what to do with the series and went through several rewrites with no grounded concept still shows in the game. I do feel that ANF is the worse installment so far into the series. It's poorly written,poorly paced,inconsistent characters,unnecessary sub love plots,lack of hubs,forgettable characters,bland protagonist and Clementine being nothing but half assed fanservice. I think what we've learned from this ANF debacle is that telltale needs to end the series for good while their ahead.

  • Plan_RPlan_R Banned

    Of course they're destroying the games reputation but even worse they have completely destroyed their own reputation as a game developer. TWD was regarded as one of the best examples of storytelling through video games of all time, even with the bugs and choices never really mattering. It was very hard to argue against their ability to craft a fine narrative. In the last few years they have done nothing but continually slip further and further down. A Telltale game used to be something I eagerly anticipated, they were able to make tie-in games that could actually enhance the product they tied into. Now their games are nothing but worthless tie-in games that mean less than nothing and serve no purpose but to be a an attempt to cash in on a name.

    I cannot think of another example of a company becoming such a failure. People can say I'm just a disgruntled fan who wants to shit all over them. I'm certain that anyone from Telltale would dismiss this criticism as such. But I am deeply saddened to have had to watch this company become a complete failure.

  • i felt that this season is more aimed towards relationships and family.

  • People in the youtube comments section of ANF videos have been far from positive in several instances not to mention a few you tubers voicing their less then stellar opinions on aspects of the game. I've also seen a few people throughout the Internet who are also not happy with the product. Granted the majority of major game review sites and such have been giving it praise and critical acclaim.

    ralo229 posted: »

    It's loved outside of the forums. People seem to forget that this is only a minuscule percentage of the game's fanbase.

  • After job j stauffer dismissed the forums criticism and feedback as a "dismissive minority" I think that shows you what they think of their fan base.

    Dude do you even realize what you said ? These forums are what matters not god damn reviews from ign or god knows that other sites where the

  • Well you could argue S1 was family driven and relationship driven.

    • Lee & Clementine
    • Lily&Larry
    • Kenny,Katja,Duck
    • Clementine&Her parents
    • Lee&Kenny
    KaiMaestro posted: »

    i felt that this season is more aimed towards relationships and family.

  • edited May 2017

    Yeah you're right. i meant it's more aimed towards love relationships: Javi and Kate, Javi and David, Tripp and Eleanor (,Clem and Gabe). My bad

    Chibikid posted: »

    Well you could argue S1 was family driven and relationship driven. * Lee & Clementine * Lily&Larry * Kenny,Katja,Duck * Clementine&Her parents * Lee&Kenny

  • My last shred of faith for this game sitting entirely on how they sweep off this finale and if it doesn't live up to my expectations, my yearnings for a next installment is going to drop like a girl's undies

  • in my opinion this season(despite of the short episodes) is not bad at all...i don't see what you guys see wrong

  • Plan_RPlan_R Banned
    edited May 2017

    How about a list as long as my arm of Plot Holes you could drive a train through, cringe dialogue, Clem being shoehorned in and not the main focus, season 2 choices being wiped out, Clem being a hardass regardless if the player ever built her to be that way, a boring new protagonist, his boring family all being caricatures and not characters, a useless comic cameo, enough unneeded action scenes to make Michael Bay blush, yet another poorly built telltale villain, No Hubs, No chances to build a meaningful connection to these characters, character models that look like escapees from a wax museum, reused music, and the best part having TTG dismiss all of this criticism as minority opinion.

    If you like the game game, that's great, more power to you. But don't dismiss the incredibly valid complaints that have been made, its very condescending. Hell I like Gabe but I don't start dismissing people's complaints just because I can work my way around his faults as a character.

    -Dream- posted: »

    in my opinion this season(despite of the short episodes) is not bad at all...i don't see what you guys see wrong

  • I don't give a damn about Job anymore after he lied to us about the game before it came out

    Chibikid posted: »

    After job j stauffer dismissed the forums criticism and feedback as a "dismissive minority" I think that shows you what they think of their fan base.

  • I agree except wth re-used music. I actually like if they re-use music here and there for the feels.

    Plan_R posted: »

    How about a list as long as my arm of Plot Holes you could drive a train through, cringe dialogue, Clem being shoehorned in and not the main

  • edited May 2017

    Eh who cares about the registry date, there are many more players who dont even have a telltale forum account, i just happen to register later then you, don't feel all special

    And i won't even search it up for you, since im to lazy and since you feel special about registering earlier you could've and should've learned that this game is season 3 of the walking dead

    maybe i did miss it so why don't you show me where exactly telltale themselves refer to a new frontier as season 3? in everything i've seen

  • Plan_RPlan_R Banned

    I think they should have used something like Alive Inside for a huge moment, I love the song but I don't think it was used well. Its nice nice to have a musical call back but they went to that well way to often for me.

    I agree except wth re-used music. I actually like if they re-use music here and there for the feels.

  • Didn't they use Alive Inside for the Javi hugs Clem moment? That got me, a seldom moment of ANF that got me.

    Plan_R posted: »

    I think they should have used something like Alive Inside for a huge moment, I love the song but I don't think it was used well. Its nice nice to have a musical call back but they went to that well way to often for me.

  • edited May 2017

    Well anyways, since youre a smartass here you go:

    http://ps4daily.com/2016/09/walking-dead-s3-title-release-date/
    http://twinfinite.net/2016/09/the-walking-dead-season-3-has-a-new-title-coming-in-november/
    http://gamingnewscenter.com/platform/xbox/the-walking-dead-season-3-gets-title-and-release-date/
    https://www.ausgamers.com/news/read/3558687/telltales-the-walking-dead-season-3-gets-a-title-and-a-release-date
    http://www.cbr.com/telltales-the-walking-dead-season-3-lands-title-release-date/
    http://loadscreen.com.au/2016/09/04/telltales-walking-dead-season-3-gets-a-title-and-launch-window/
    https://www.trueachievements.com/n25097/the-walking-dead-season-3-to-be-called-a-new-frontier
    http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/80512/20161203/telltales-the-walking-dead-season-3-release-date-news-update-a-new-frontier-coming-this-holiday-season-watch-the-trailer-here.htm
    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/the-walking-dead/258256/telltale-the-walking-dead-season-3-release-date-trailer-latest-news
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-09-03-the-walking-dead-season-3-gets-title-and-release-date
    http://www.thewalkingdead.com/new-twd-telltale-game-gets-new-title/
    http://undeadwalking.com/2016/09/02/season-3-telltale-game-walking-dead-new-frontier/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_(video_game_series)
    https://www.slashgear.com/telltales-walking-dead-season-3-gets-release-date-titled-04454699/
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/02/pax-2016-telltales-the-walking-dead-season-3-official-title-revealed
    https://www.greenmangaming.com/newsroom/2016/11/25/telltales-walking-dead-season-3/
    https://gamefragger.com/multiplatform/action/the_walking_dead/telltales-the-walking-dead-season-3-gets-an-a5329
    http://mesf.mk/en-us/Media/News/telltales-the-walking-dead-season-3-official-title-revealed-145925
    https://www.follownews.com/telltales-the-walking-dead-season-3-official-title-revealed-1sifv
    http://www.geeksundergrace.com/gaming/walking-dead-telltale-series-season-3-premieres-next-month/
    http://www.gamenewstoday.com/the-walking-dead-season-3-gets-title-and-release-date.html
    http://www.ooyuz.com/geturl?aid=13028172

    And before you say telltale didnt say it!!!!
    https://telltale.com/news/2016/09/-the-walking-dead-the-telltale-series---a-new-frontier-premieres-this-november/

    Now please dont even reply back

    maybe i did miss it so why don't you show me where exactly telltale themselves refer to a new frontier as season 3? in everything i've seen

  • Almost every series has a bad installment....sometimes entire bad seasons...but ok say you really hate this season...I do not...but what does it mean....if season 4 does come and is back to bad ass standards...then you look back and go...meh...

    But no matter what...even if you hate this season.it does not wash out the goodness that is s 1 and 2

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    maybe i did miss it so why don't you show me where exactly telltale themselves refer to a new frontier as season 3? in everything i've seen

  • The game is still decreasing drastically on Steam...

    S1 - 97%
    S2 - 96%
    ANF - 77% and STILL decreasing with EVERY front page review being negative...

    Sales are doing pretty bad as well, hell, MICHONNE sold higher.

    ralo229 posted: »

    It's loved outside of the forums. People seem to forget that this is only a minuscule percentage of the game's fanbase.

  • What makes you say that?

    hesif posted: »

    It's because they scraped off the excess waste from S2 and recycled it into a horribly failed product

  • TNF came for clem instead Javier

    I think you got that backwards, mate.

    Justin22 posted: »

    They mess up episode 1 when conrad said to tripp "he thought he kick her a** out" talking about clem and TNF came for clem instead Javier

  • but this season is missing something

    yeah it's missing CLEMENTINE

  • edited May 2017

    These forums are filled with actual fans who actually know what they want from twd games and what's wrong with them, the other "fans" of the franchise are just brain washed people who go along with whatever review they find online without actually realizing what's wrong with the game

    Do YOU even realize what you just said? I mean, here I thought, that they legitimately enjoyed the game, but I'm clearly dead wrong. Yeah, I'm sure no other actual fans exist outside the Telltale forums. This entire site is the entire collective of every single TWD fan on the face of the earth. There isn't a single possibility that there's someone on the outside that truly is a fan that notices the issues, but still enjoys the game regardless. That just doesn't happen. Anyone who isn't a member of these forums isn't an actual fan and they're just brainwashed. That totally makes sense. With that logic, anyone who isn't a member of the Bioware forums isn't an actual fan of Mass Effect or Dragon Age. Or anyone who isn't a member of the Naughty Dog forums isn't an actual fan of Uncharted or the Last of Us. I enjoy every single one of those games, but I'm not a member of the forums, so I guess I'm not a real fan. Thank you for your wisdom and your insight. You are truly the voice of a generation.

    These forums are what matters not god damn reviews from ign or god knows that other sites where they don't even remember all of the characters in the games and they say that episodes 1 and 2 are better than episode 4.

    These forums are only a minuscule amount of the game's fanbase like I said. And IGN and other sites like episodes 1 and 2 better than episode 4? Oh the horror! How dare they! How dare they have differing opinions from the rest of us! Why can't they dislike them unconditionally? And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like IGN.

    And also, when was the instance where the critics didn't even remember the characters? (Not being sarcastic. Legitimately asking.)

    Dude do you even realize what you said ? These forums are what matters not god damn reviews from ign or god knows that other sites where the

  • A 77% is still a decent percentage. Can't really argue with you on the negative front page reviews. They also have other outlets besides Steam like PSN or Xbox Live.

    The game is still decreasing drastically on Steam... S1 - 97% S2 - 96% ANF - 77% and STILL decreasing with EVERY front page review being negative... Sales are doing pretty bad as well, hell, MICHONNE sold higher.

  • Yeah, I'm sure no other actual fans exist outside the Telltale forums

    You can try reddit I guess but people there are just blind and fail to see the problems with the game
    I guess you can try youtube ? I've seen lots of people complaining there as well
    Let's see...Facebook I guess ? People not happy there, at least on the Telltale page
    If you look at criticism people on these forums are the ones who've been fans since Season 1 and can tell what are the problems with the current episodes, the people I've seen elsewhere just say "The game is garbage" and failing to provide some arguments as to why the game is garbage.

    And IGN and other sites like episodes 1 and 2 better than episode 4? Oh the horror! How dare they! How dare they have differing opinions from the rest of us! Why can't they dislike them unconditionally?

    It's not about opinion here, they fail to provide what's good and what's bad with the episodes (In the ep4 review they didn't even mention the choices being really good, even better than some Season 1 and 2 choices, how many determinant characters there are or how we get to bond with Clem more in this episode) I could go on about this, how they just jump over a lot of thing in their reviews but I'm already bored.

    And also, when was the instance where the critics didn't even remember the characters? (Not being sarcastic. Legitimately asking.)

    That was a way of saying they don't give a damn about the game, there was once an interview hosted by IGN (I think) about Episode 1 and 2 and the guy who was asking the questions didn't play the episodes until after a few weeks after release, right before the interview, because he didn't really care about the game.

    ralo229 posted: »

    These forums are filled with actual fans who actually know what they want from twd games and what's wrong with them, the other "fans" of the

  • Truth, well said

    but this season is missing something yeah it's missing CLEMENTINE

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