Ava's 2nd, even though I had Tripp. It was pretty anticlimactic. It was very dumb (story-wise).
However, I must say, her death was probably one of the more realistic in the series. I'd imagine a bunch of people would die like that, just being gone in a flash, rather than have a drawn-out (but story-wise better) death like Tripp. Unfortunately, shock factors don't usually make for great story stuff, and well, that was obvious.
Telltale definitely could have improved it if more of a reaction was given by David and Clementine. The fact that there wasn't makes it worse than it should be.
Kenny ending wasn't ideal but it was very emotional and the best/longest flashback.
Jane ending made me laugh, celebrate, and say "I told you so" when I found out what she did.
Yeah, I did too, if only because there's a bit of an investigating element to figuring out what happened, the fact that he's given a pretty unique(if a bit disrespectful) sendoff, and that it ultimately speaks for what type of person he is.
Ava's 2nd, even though I had Tripp. It was pretty anticlimactic. It was very dumb (story-wise).
However, I must say, her death was probab… morely one of the more realistic in the series. I'd imagine a bunch of people would die like that, just being gone in a flash, rather than have a drawn-out (but story-wise better) death like Tripp. Unfortunately, shock factors don't usually make for great story stuff, and well, that was obvious.
Telltale definitely could have improved it if more of a reaction was given by David and Clementine. The fact that there wasn't makes it worse than it should be.
Though I suppose you could argue she saw Tripp coming and had time to prepare for him, while the walker caught her by surprise in a vulnerable position.
Jane's ultimate fates was fitting to me. Whether that be her season 2 fate or A New Frontier fate. Even leaving her after deceiving you about the baby is understandable. And I can understand others contempt after a few of her misdeeds..
That's just ... so mean, though.
Just because you prefer one character, doesn't mean you have to laugh about the fact that another person… more's favorite character was written off in a really insulting way. That just seems really mean spirited, to me. Not saying that I found either death good, but laughing at someone's favorite character getting killed off badly just comes across as kind of narrow minded, at least from my point of view. Not trying to be harsh, I just dunno the right words to describe this.
I'd also like to point out that, on your subreddit r/TeamKenny, you said that Kenny fans always, and I quote the thread 'Why I say F--k team Jane', "calmly defend Kenny and rationally explain why Jane ended up being the worst guardian for Clem", and that Jane fans - again, I quote the linked thread - "always resort to personal insults and attacks", but aren't you doing the same thing? I mean, I'm just looking at some of the comments you've… [view original content]
Yeah, seriously. It's a perfect example of how superfluous Clementine became as the story went on that her relationship/dynamic with Ava is pretty undersold outside of that flashback.
Such an great supporting character reduced to being damsel for the fridge or getting literally dropped off a bridge because... I guess Tripp is totally far more important and useful in everyway.
Yeah, you smell the bantha fodder from here.
Though I suppose you could argue she saw Tripp coming and had time to prepare for him, while the walker caught her by surprise in a vulnerable position.
I laughed about Jane's death because it was fitting to her character and it was validation that I was right about her. The entire wait after s2 I had to listen to people justifying her playing with a baby's life and saying that Kenny was this horrible abuser. The flashbacks proved otherwise as the Kenny ones were very happy and he dies for them, whilst Jane is a depressing mess who still talks shit about Kenny and then kills herself while AJ is still in swaddling clothes. And then her few supporters still have the nerve to suggest that she made a selfless decision for Clementine. It's b.s. and Jane is b.s. and that is why I laughed when i heard about what happened if you went with her, not because I hate people who like her and want to jeer at them.
That's just ... so mean, though.
Just because you prefer one character, doesn't mean you have to laugh about the fact that another person… more's favorite character was written off in a really insulting way. That just seems really mean spirited, to me. Not saying that I found either death good, but laughing at someone's favorite character getting killed off badly just comes across as kind of narrow minded, at least from my point of view. Not trying to be harsh, I just dunno the right words to describe this.
I'd also like to point out that, on your subreddit r/TeamKenny, you said that Kenny fans always, and I quote the thread 'Why I say F--k team Jane', "calmly defend Kenny and rationally explain why Jane ended up being the worst guardian for Clem", and that Jane fans - again, I quote the linked thread - "always resort to personal insults and attacks", but aren't you doing the same thing? I mean, I'm just looking at some of the comments you've… [view original content]
I noticed that too. Jane does not even last long enough to see AJ grow into a toddler. While Kenny seems to get to see him grow a bit. Also in that latest interview with Melissa Hutchison she called her Clementine 100% team Kenny. Whether that's due to her only being friends with the voice actor Gavin Hammond or because she feels Clem truly would be supportive of Kenny over Jane I am not sure.
Most of this kind of just makes Jane look like the worst possible guardian for Clem out of all the folks that helped look after Clem in the outbreak so far. Lee might of been best, but Jane sure looks as though she's the opposite or at the bottom.
I laughed about Jane's death because it was fitting to her character and it was validation that I was right about her. The entire wait after… more s2 I had to listen to people justifying her playing with a baby's life and saying that Kenny was this horrible abuser. The flashbacks proved otherwise as the Kenny ones were very happy and he dies for them, whilst Jane is a depressing mess who still talks shit about Kenny and then kills herself while AJ is still in swaddling clothes. And then her few supporters still have the nerve to suggest that she made a selfless decision for Clementine. It's b.s. and Jane is b.s. and that is why I laughed when i heard about what happened if you went with her, not because I hate people who like her and want to jeer at them.
Knocks big guy triple her size on his ass from that punch no less like she was Dwayne the Rock Johnson. And then goes down like a goof trooper.You also notice how that walker waited until every last person got pass then leaped out at the only determinate it smelled of the group. LoL
(Going to tag @Ladariel in this comment, as it talks about why I don't agree with Jane's death being fitting in ANF ^^)
I guess I misunderstood what you were saying in your previous posts, then, with the whole less than positive gist that was coming off them. My bad if that's the case. Just gonna quickly reply to this, and then ... yea.
Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but it does feel a bit weird to talk about how nice the Kenny fans are and how mean the Jane fans are, yet you do admit to indulging in laughing about what other players had to experience in. And the comments I did bring up from Reddit don't really leave much room for the imagination, you know? The ones about Jane fans all being 'fucked up' or 'plain stupid' (though they weren't made by you, of course! Just bringing them up to try and explain my point of view!) It feels a tiny bit like a contradiction in what's being said and what's actually happening, but I could be wrong!
I also hasten to point out that Jane's death is 100% not fitting, at all - in my mind - as she seems to have a deep resentment towards her late little sister for giving up, as her voice takes on a brittle yet, in equal parts, cutting tone when she explains what happened to Jaime (Going to paraphrase it because I can't remember the exact line, will edit the post later):
" - I couldn't talk her into jumping. I couldn't throw her! So I tried something else. I told her she could have what she wanted... and I left her."
So I don't really understand how her hanging herself is in character, as she was trying to convince her - from what we can infer - depressive sister to fight to survive, even when she hated her life, and only let her give up as an absolute last resort. So suicide is so far out of left field I'm still sort of amazed that's how they chose to kill her. But I really don't wanna have an argument about it, and I don't really trust myself to be able to debate it without maybe getting a little mean, so I'll just be leaving that there, and we'll have to agree to disagree. Sorry :c
I'm not saying that one person is 'right' and one person is 'wrong' - I honestly believe both endings deserve validity. As I told you a while back, my original ending was leaving with Kenny, despite feeling crummy about letting Jane die. But even though my personal favourite ending is with Jane at Howe's, I don't go on the forums saying 'fuck Kenny' and 'I laughed at his death', because it does, to me at least, come across as mean spirited, and - even though it may not be your intention - I'm going to quote you from the Unpopular walking dead opinions thread, because I was scrolling through that thread just now and thought it was a really good quote:
'Actions are actions.'
In a way, laughing at the death is - again, from where I'm 'standing' - jeering those who got that ending as you're laughing at the fact that Jane dies in such a miserable way and, with the power of rewind (I really miss rewind ._.), a lot of people will likely have changed their ending to get their 'favourite', like I did. Even though I personally don't like Kenny as much as, say, you or Dan#####, I can understand and acknowledge how shitty his death must've been for the 'hardcore' fans of him. And I am really sorry that's how they chose to write out a character we first met in the FIRST episode of the entire series. It's so crazy to think we all knew the lord of boats and peaches and beans for so long!
Sorry for the stand-under-missing on my part, hopefully this post explains why I was confused, and I hope we're all good. Don't wanna argue with anyone ._.
As an aside, my dad was really gutted when he played the Kenny flashback. I felt super crummy watching it happen, 'cause he really related to the guy. Poor Kenny and Jane.
I laughed about Jane's death because it was fitting to her character and it was validation that I was right about her. The entire wait after… more s2 I had to listen to people justifying her playing with a baby's life and saying that Kenny was this horrible abuser. The flashbacks proved otherwise as the Kenny ones were very happy and he dies for them, whilst Jane is a depressing mess who still talks shit about Kenny and then kills herself while AJ is still in swaddling clothes. And then her few supporters still have the nerve to suggest that she made a selfless decision for Clementine. It's b.s. and Jane is b.s. and that is why I laughed when i heard about what happened if you went with her, not because I hate people who like her and want to jeer at them.
Killing yourself and that situation is actually so selfish too. U were watching over a kid and a baby and then just decide to fucking hang yourself. And I actually really liked Jane up until S2 ep5 when she made me shoot Kenny thinking Kenny was actually loosing it but he wasn't, it was really Jane just being retarded.
I laughed about Jane's death because it was fitting to her character and it was validation that I was right about her. The entire wait after… more s2 I had to listen to people justifying her playing with a baby's life and saying that Kenny was this horrible abuser. The flashbacks proved otherwise as the Kenny ones were very happy and he dies for them, whilst Jane is a depressing mess who still talks shit about Kenny and then kills herself while AJ is still in swaddling clothes. And then her few supporters still have the nerve to suggest that she made a selfless decision for Clementine. It's b.s. and Jane is b.s. and that is why I laughed when i heard about what happened if you went with her, not because I hate people who like her and want to jeer at them.
Season 2 was a Smorgasbord of stupidly written characters with abjectly stupid deaths.
Sitting on top the thrown was undoubtedly Sarah's 2nd death, when she's ripped to shreds and eaten alive screaming and crying while the others were itching their asses, and turn around to welcome the newest plot-device-disguising-itself-as-a-character, AJ. And would do so with smiles and a nice charming melody, horribly confusing the tone of the entire death in the first place. Almost as unpleasant as a scene could deliver.
Knocks big guy triple her size on his ass from that punch no less like she was Dwayne the Rock Johnson. And then goes down like a goof troop… moreer.You also notice how that walker waited until every last person got pass then leaped out at the only determinate it smelled of the group. LoL
I mean come on, how dare you kill our dear lord, Telltale ?!?!
Joke's aside,
Ava's death made sense but the afterward was so hilarious.
AVAAAAAAA ! GODDAMNIT NO !!!!
Lets keep going. Ava would have kicked my ass.
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK ? I mean WHAT ? What the foxtrot is wrong with you, Telltale ? It was the laziest written death I have ever seen in my whole life.
I noticed that too. Jane does not even last long enough to see AJ grow into a toddler. While Kenny seems to get to see him grow a bit. Also… more in that latest interview with Melissa Hutchison she called her Clementine 100% team Kenny. Whether that's due to her only being friends with the voice actor Gavin Hammond or because she feels Clem truly would be supportive of Kenny over Jane I am not sure.
Most of this kind of just makes Jane look like the worst possible guardian for Clem out of all the folks that helped look after Clem in the outbreak so far. Lee might of been best, but Jane sure looks as though she's the opposite or at the bottom.
I believed he might of suffered from too much blood loss after getting shot in the shoulder then eventually succumbed. Far as how he got stuck in the fence I just don't know.
Yeah, I did too, if only because there's a bit of an investigating element to figuring out what happened, the fact that he's given a pretty unique(if a bit disrespectful) sendoff, and that it ultimately speaks for what type of person he is.
Again though, I have nothing against Jane supporters personally. Jane could be pretty cool. She could handle walkers and liked to drink. She saved Kenny from the Russian guy.
But her actions overall were pretty terrible, leading up to her playing with AJ's life in a blizzard after leaving Clem just to provoke a deadly confrontation with Kenny. Not much else needs to be said about all of that, but for her to pull that stunt and then just leave two children alone to find her walker corpse? Completely despicable and it ruins any credibility her and her supporters have tried building for her case.
Compare that with Kenny's flashbacks, who Jane's supporters always said was a rabid dog that needed to be put down, and you can see why i might mock the arguments that are for Jane and against Kenny.
Again, I didn't mean to personally offend you or your game experience. And even if you did come on the forums and say Kenny was a monster (which many people have) I wouldn't really care, I would just counter your argument. So no hard feelings I hope
(Going to tag @Ladariel in this comment, as it talks about why I don't agree with Jane's death being fitting in ANF ^^)
I guess I misunde… morerstood what you were saying in your previous posts, then, with the whole less than positive gist that was coming off them. My bad if that's the case. Just gonna quickly reply to this, and then ... yea.
Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but it does feel a bit weird to talk about how nice the Kenny fans are and how mean the Jane fans are, yet you do admit to indulging in laughing about what other players had to experience in. And the comments I did bring up from Reddit don't really leave much room for the imagination, you know? The ones about Jane fans all being 'fucked up' or 'plain stupid' (though they weren't made by you, of course! Just bringing them up to try and explain my point of view!) It feels a tiny bit like a contradiction in what's being said and what's actually happening, but I could be wrong… [view original content]
If they were trying to go for an honerable death by walkers they should of just let him meet his end with Ben in that back alleyway from season 1. They knew about that so season 3 should of been a different than once again sacrificing himself.
If they were trying to go for an honerable death by walkers they should of just let him meet his end with Ben in that back alleyway from season 1. They knew about that so season 3 should of been a different than once again sacrificing himself.
If they were trying to go for an honerable death by walkers they should of just let him meet his end with Ben in that back alleyway from season 1. They knew about that so season 3 should of been a different than once again sacrificing himself.
Killing yourself and that situation is actually so selfish too. U were watching over a kid and a baby and then just decide to fucking hang y… moreourself. And I actually really liked Jane up until S2 ep5 when she made me shoot Kenny thinking Kenny was actually loosing it but he wasn't, it was really Jane just being retarded.
I saw right through Jane in my first playthrough. After Kenny's sacrifices for Clem among other losses. Taking being beaten blind litterally for Clem and a thank you bullet to the chest in return seemed a bit sad..
What happened is that he, Luke, and Sarah ended up in the trailer, with all three being hurt in some way--Sarah's having a nervous breakdown and lost her glasses after smacking into a walker, Luke's ribs were aching due to the beatdown Carver gave him and all the running they did, and Nick himself had been shot in the shoulder by Tavia's men. It was apparent that they weren't getting out of there easily in their condition, so Nick just locked the trailer's front door and tried to make a break for it to get the other two help. Unfortunately, he ran into a walker(who I call the Nick-killer) that ended up taking a fair chomp out of his neck. Nick was somehow able to get away and reach the hole in the fence Sarah used to get in, but unfortunately, he'd lost a lot of blood due to not only the gunshot wound, but also the missing chunk in his neck bleeding out. He ultimately collapsed trying to leave through the hole, getting himself stuck on the wires and eventually turned. About an hour or so later, Clementine and Jane found his walker hanging there and after apologizing for not getting there sooner, the former put him down with three swipes of her axe and the latter, after advising Clementine that the ax is risky to use due to getting stuck on the final blow, unhooked his corpse and tossed it aside so they can get in. Jane then gave Clementine a screwdriver to use instead, picking the Nick Killer out as her first target.
So ultimately, Nick took a stupid risk by blatantly ignored his own injuries to go get the necessary help to save his friends--and in a way, he succeeded.
I believed he might of suffered from too much blood loss after getting shot in the shoulder then eventually succumbed. Far as how he got stuck in the fence I just don't know.
Edith, Jane (Season 3), Kenny (Season 3), Ava (Episode 5), David García, Hector, Sarah (2nd death), Reggie, Nick (2nd death), Francine, Lonnie and Stephanie.
He save Clem though, and he died forgotten and ignored just like the homeless in our world. Ava was just lol, it was so bad that it's just funny which I don't think the intention was.
They built up Ben that he was finally going to earn his place in episode 5 and do something that would benefit the group, which he never did, which cool at least it was un predictable. But then they just did it again with Sarah. I thought teaching her how to use a gun would be payed off in a later episode by saving a character but nope lol.
Her second death, since there are certain scenes that take her presence into account and play out with a key difference or two if you left h… moreer. I generally consider the latter death of a character in the story the canon one mostly because of that.
And it also just hammers in how terrible the developers/writers were about that that her canon death has the least amount of effort put into having it(and her presence as a fairly major character for several episodes) actually mean something and make sense in the context of the story.
Ava's death. It was just pure bullshit, honestly. It felt like Telltale really wanted to find an excuse to get rid of that character, so they picked the worst way possible for her to die.
I would of felt better if I didn't know the reason why they killed him off. Laziness. It's not like he had to be in every scene in ANF, they could of worked him into the game, which would of made a second play-through worth it.
And that's what makes her treatment even worse by comparison: there was clear effort and effects given to making Ben's determinate status matter across two separate episodes, while Sarah(who was younger, weaker(?), and far less guilty than him) got the rawest deal twice in the same fucking episode.
They built up Ben that he was finally going to earn his place in episode 5 and do something that would benefit the group, which he never did… more, which cool at least it was un predictable. But then they just did it again with Sarah. I thought teaching her how to use a gun would be payed off in a later episode by saving a character but nope lol.
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Ava's death. One of the few characters I actually gave a shit about AAAAANNNDDD she's dead what a pity let's go.
Ava's 2nd, even though I had Tripp. It was pretty anticlimactic. It was very dumb (story-wise).
However, I must say, her death was probably one of the more realistic in the series. I'd imagine a bunch of people would die like that, just being gone in a flash, rather than have a drawn-out (but story-wise better) death like Tripp. Unfortunately, shock factors don't usually make for great story stuff, and well, that was obvious.
Telltale definitely could have improved it if more of a reaction was given by David and Clementine. The fact that there wasn't makes it worse than it should be.
Agreed, though I laughed because of what a terrible segueway and mood whiplash it was considering it's the worst flashback.
Carlos, Ava (second), Nick (second), Sarah (second), Kenny (season 3), Jane (season 3)
Ava’s episode 5 death it was so stupid it made me laugh.
Yeah, I did too, if only because there's a bit of an investigating element to figuring out what happened, the fact that he's given a pretty unique(if a bit disrespectful) sendoff, and that it ultimately speaks for what type of person he is.
Punches a big guy with one hand and gets easily pushed off the bridge by a weak walker
What's funny is that Clementine and Ava don't interact much in the present.
Yeah, you smell the bantha fodder from here.
Though I suppose you could argue she saw Tripp coming and had time to prepare for him, while the walker caught her by surprise in a vulnerable position.
Jane's ultimate fates was fitting to me. Whether that be her season 2 fate or A New Frontier fate. Even leaving her after deceiving you about the baby is understandable. And I can understand others contempt after a few of her misdeeds..
Yeah, seriously. It's a perfect example of how superfluous Clementine became as the story went on that her relationship/dynamic with Ava is pretty undersold outside of that flashback.
Such an great supporting character reduced to being damsel for the fridge or getting literally dropped off a bridge because... I guess Tripp is totally far more important and useful in everyway.
At least Tripp's death was prepared after his name because it's awesome. He TRIPPED to his death.
I laughed about Jane's death because it was fitting to her character and it was validation that I was right about her. The entire wait after s2 I had to listen to people justifying her playing with a baby's life and saying that Kenny was this horrible abuser. The flashbacks proved otherwise as the Kenny ones were very happy and he dies for them, whilst Jane is a depressing mess who still talks shit about Kenny and then kills herself while AJ is still in swaddling clothes. And then her few supporters still have the nerve to suggest that she made a selfless decision for Clementine. It's b.s. and Jane is b.s. and that is why I laughed when i heard about what happened if you went with her, not because I hate people who like her and want to jeer at them.
[Insert Lily pic here] Ha.
I noticed that too. Jane does not even last long enough to see AJ grow into a toddler. While Kenny seems to get to see him grow a bit. Also in that latest interview with Melissa Hutchison she called her Clementine 100% team Kenny. Whether that's due to her only being friends with the voice actor Gavin Hammond or because she feels Clem truly would be supportive of Kenny over Jane I am not sure.
Most of this kind of just makes Jane look like the worst possible guardian for Clem out of all the folks that helped look after Clem in the outbreak so far. Lee might of been best, but Jane sure looks as though she's the opposite or at the bottom.
Knocks big guy triple her size on his ass from that punch no less like she was Dwayne the Rock Johnson. And then goes down like a goof trooper.You also notice how that walker waited until every last person got pass then leaped out at the only determinate it smelled of the group. LoL
(Going to tag @Ladariel in this comment, as it talks about why I don't agree with Jane's death being fitting in ANF ^^)
I guess I misunderstood what you were saying in your previous posts, then, with the whole less than positive gist that was coming off them. My bad if that's the case. Just gonna quickly reply to this, and then ... yea.
Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but it does feel a bit weird to talk about how nice the Kenny fans are and how mean the Jane fans are, yet you do admit to indulging in laughing about what other players had to experience in. And the comments I did bring up from Reddit don't really leave much room for the imagination, you know? The ones about Jane fans all being 'fucked up' or 'plain stupid' (though they weren't made by you, of course! Just bringing them up to try and explain my point of view!) It feels a tiny bit like a contradiction in what's being said and what's actually happening, but I could be wrong!
I also hasten to point out that Jane's death is 100% not fitting, at all - in my mind - as she seems to have a deep resentment towards her late little sister for giving up, as her voice takes on a brittle yet, in equal parts, cutting tone when she explains what happened to Jaime (Going to paraphrase it because I can't remember the exact line, will edit the post later):
So I don't really understand how her hanging herself is in character, as she was trying to convince her - from what we can infer - depressive sister to fight to survive, even when she hated her life, and only let her give up as an absolute last resort. So suicide is so far out of left field I'm still sort of amazed that's how they chose to kill her. But I really don't wanna have an argument about it, and I don't really trust myself to be able to debate it without maybe getting a little mean, so I'll just be leaving that there, and we'll have to agree to disagree. Sorry :c
I'm not saying that one person is 'right' and one person is 'wrong' - I honestly believe both endings deserve validity. As I told you a while back, my original ending was leaving with Kenny, despite feeling crummy about letting Jane die. But even though my personal favourite ending is with Jane at Howe's, I don't go on the forums saying 'fuck Kenny' and 'I laughed at his death', because it does, to me at least, come across as mean spirited, and - even though it may not be your intention - I'm going to quote you from the Unpopular walking dead opinions thread, because I was scrolling through that thread just now and thought it was a really good quote:
In a way, laughing at the death is - again, from where I'm 'standing' - jeering those who got that ending as you're laughing at the fact that Jane dies in such a miserable way and, with the power of rewind (I really miss rewind ._.), a lot of people will likely have changed their ending to get their 'favourite', like I did. Even though I personally don't like Kenny as much as, say, you or Dan#####, I can understand and acknowledge how shitty his death must've been for the 'hardcore' fans of him. And I am really sorry that's how they chose to write out a character we first met in the FIRST episode of the entire series. It's so crazy to think we all knew the lord of boats and peaches and beans for so long!
Sorry for the stand-under-missing on my part, hopefully this post explains why I was confused, and I hope we're all good. Don't wanna argue with anyone ._.
As an aside, my dad was really gutted when he played the Kenny flashback. I felt super crummy watching it happen, 'cause he really related to the guy. Poor Kenny and Jane.
mariana and ava.
Killing yourself and that situation is actually so selfish too. U were watching over a kid and a baby and then just decide to fucking hang yourself. And I actually really liked Jane up until S2 ep5 when she made me shoot Kenny thinking Kenny was actually loosing it but he wasn't, it was really Jane just being retarded.
Season 2 was a Smorgasbord of stupidly written characters with abjectly stupid deaths.
Sitting on top the thrown was undoubtedly Sarah's 2nd death, when she's ripped to shreds and eaten alive screaming and crying while the others were itching their asses, and turn around to welcome the newest plot-device-disguising-itself-as-a-character, AJ. And would do so with smiles and a nice charming melody, horribly confusing the tone of the entire death in the first place. Almost as unpleasant as a scene could deliver.
It's called Walker Ex-Machina
Kenny's death.
I mean come on, how dare you kill our dear lord, Telltale ?!?!
Joke's aside,
Ava's death made sense but the afterward was so hilarious.
AVAAAAAAA ! GODDAMNIT NO !!!!
Lets keep going. Ava would have kicked my ass.
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK ? I mean WHAT ? What the foxtrot is wrong with you, Telltale ? It was the laziest written death I have ever seen in my whole life.
Do you have a link to where Melissa said that?
I believed he might of suffered from too much blood loss after getting shot in the shoulder then eventually succumbed. Far as how he got stuck in the fence I just don't know.
Again though, I have nothing against Jane supporters personally. Jane could be pretty cool. She could handle walkers and liked to drink. She saved Kenny from the Russian guy.
But her actions overall were pretty terrible, leading up to her playing with AJ's life in a blizzard after leaving Clem just to provoke a deadly confrontation with Kenny. Not much else needs to be said about all of that, but for her to pull that stunt and then just leave two children alone to find her walker corpse? Completely despicable and it ruins any credibility her and her supporters have tried building for her case.
Compare that with Kenny's flashbacks, who Jane's supporters always said was a rabid dog that needed to be put down, and you can see why i might mock the arguments that are for Jane and against Kenny.
Again, I didn't mean to personally offend you or your game experience. And even if you did come on the forums and say Kenny was a monster (which many people have) I wouldn't really care, I would just counter your argument. So no hard feelings I hope
If they were trying to go for an honerable death by walkers they should of just let him meet his end with Ben in that back alleyway from season 1. They knew about that so season 3 should of been a different than once again sacrificing himself.
This.
Nah I loved the time that we got to spend with him in s2 and in ANF.
Nick, Kenny, Jane, Ava, Tripp, Omid, Luke, David (if he dies off-screen), Kate... There's probably more, I just can't remember all of them.
I'm sorry you were manipulated and ended up moving corpses with Jane instead of being at a campfire doing shadow puppets as a family.
Melissa Hutchison mentions HER Clem being 100% team Kenny in this article. I think about halfway down the page is where she talks about how awesome Gavin Hammond is.. then comes her 100% team Kenny comment from Clementine herself after playing the games.
I saw right through Jane in my first playthrough. After Kenny's sacrifices for Clem among other losses. Taking being beaten blind litterally for Clem and a thank you bullet to the chest in return seemed a bit sad..
Ava if you choose to save Tripp.
What happened is that he, Luke, and Sarah ended up in the trailer, with all three being hurt in some way--Sarah's having a nervous breakdown and lost her glasses after smacking into a walker, Luke's ribs were aching due to the beatdown Carver gave him and all the running they did, and Nick himself had been shot in the shoulder by Tavia's men. It was apparent that they weren't getting out of there easily in their condition, so Nick just locked the trailer's front door and tried to make a break for it to get the other two help. Unfortunately, he ran into a walker(who I call the Nick-killer) that ended up taking a fair chomp out of his neck. Nick was somehow able to get away and reach the hole in the fence Sarah used to get in, but unfortunately, he'd lost a lot of blood due to not only the gunshot wound, but also the missing chunk in his neck bleeding out. He ultimately collapsed trying to leave through the hole, getting himself stuck on the wires and eventually turned. About an hour or so later, Clementine and Jane found his walker hanging there and after apologizing for not getting there sooner, the former put him down with three swipes of her axe and the latter, after advising Clementine that the ax is risky to use due to getting stuck on the final blow, unhooked his corpse and tossed it aside so they can get in. Jane then gave Clementine a screwdriver to use instead, picking the Nick Killer out as her first target.
So ultimately, Nick took a stupid risk by blatantly ignored his own injuries to go get the necessary help to save his friends--and in a way, he succeeded.
Edith, Jane (Season 3), Kenny (Season 3), Ava (Episode 5), David García, Hector, Sarah (2nd death), Reggie, Nick (2nd death), Francine, Lonnie and Stephanie.
He save Clem though, and he died forgotten and ignored just like the homeless in our world. Ava was just lol, it was so bad that it's just funny which I don't think the intention was.
They built up Ben that he was finally going to earn his place in episode 5 and do something that would benefit the group, which he never did, which cool at least it was un predictable. But then they just did it again with Sarah. I thought teaching her how to use a gun would be payed off in a later episode by saving a character but nope lol.
Because making the character you chose at the end of episode 4 to survive more then 5 minutes would require work.
I would of felt better if I didn't know the reason why they killed him off. Laziness. It's not like he had to be in every scene in ANF, they could of worked him into the game, which would of made a second play-through worth it.
And that's what makes her treatment even worse by comparison: there was clear effort and effects given to making Ben's determinate status matter across two separate episodes, while Sarah(who was younger, weaker(?), and far less guilty than him) got the rawest deal twice in the same fucking episode.