What character had a lot of potential but was fucked over by Telltale?
For me it was Ava. Her character just concludes how bad season 3 is.
"You should be more careful."
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For me it was Ava. Her character just concludes how bad season 3 is.
"You should be more careful."
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Here's who I think had potential to be engaging and memorable characters who were either abruptly killed off in the middle of their character arc, were tossed aside and never to be seen again, or had contributed very little to the story altogether:
Season 1:
400 Days:
Season 2:
Michonne:
Season 3/ANF:
In my honest opinion
Season 2: Nick, Sarah, Rebecca and Luke
ANF:
What more can I say? I pictured her time with Clementine would sand away the rough edges and she'd blossom into a worthy character and ally for Clem.
Clementine.
A once invaluable character and complementary supporting piece of the otherwise grim and morose season 1, giving it a more offset human quality season 2 severely lacked and one that ANF tried to portray but failed at quite miserably.
Now, she is nothing but a whining baby who cries about period cramps to stab victims and has the staggering mental stupidity to haul a toddler into a dangerous area while trying to rob people of their medication and inject said toddler not but a few yards from the people who are known to be quite ruthless.
That's not even mentioning that by the time S2 was over, Clem was a subservient drag-along to Kenny and Jane's ridiculous feud and made little attempts at autonomous agency, making her character as meek and feeble as the submissive Sarita was.
As far as greater scope'd potential goes: Christa, Rebecca, Sarah, Kate, and Gabe.
Honorable Mentions: Lilly, Tavia, Michelle, Luke, Carlos, Alvin, Mike/"Ralph," Arvo and the Russian Group, Edith, Eleanor, Max, Ava, and Joan.
Clementine.
Sarah.
Nick.
Jane.
400 days cast.
Carver.
ANF cast.
Season 1 : Carley
Carley was definitely a strong woman and she had a good potential to be permanent in series. She was beside the point when it comes to technology but she was sure as hell a big help to group. She could have live longer. I liked her development I was disappointed about her death.
Season 2 : Alvin
I,for one, liked Alvin. He died in a stupid way. Telltale just wanted an emotional death but it was more way stupid in my opinion. He just unnecessarily sacrificied himself to let Clem escape. They could have escaped together or at least he could have tried. I liked his personality and development. For me, Telltale waste him in a shitty way.
Season 3 : Kenny, Tripp
Okay, the way they killed Kenny was so dumb and stupid. When they crashed, only he went through the shield and Clem stayed still that was bullshit. He didnt went away too far but somehow he broke his both legs. I saw way worst car crashes in TV or internet but people didnt broke their legs like Kenny did. Also a stubborn guy like Kenny gave up so easily in that situation. Telltale just wanted a quick emotional death for him but I didnt buy it and it was a complete bullshit in my book.
Tripp was another disappointment. He was always loyal and even you cause hell of a trouble for him, he always watched your back. I liked him and liked him even more when I see his "Abraham" side. But then, he never tried to make it to other side and let himself killed. He could have jump to helicopter and even could have made it. But here we are, another shitty emotional death.
Yeah, the way I know Kenny, it was so damn surprising to see him like that. Telltale's sense of humour is always poorly timed.
Clementine (surprised none mentioned her since it's not the Clementine we raised)
Sarah
Nick
Luke
Walter (surprised none mentioned him yet)
I dont blame Clemie for who would she become now. Its just something that cause of the experiences she went through with. You have to understand.
You forgot Eleanor.
could you even talk to sarah? I don't remember. I wanted clem to give her a hug but you couldn't hug her. You could slap her but not hug her wtf?
Eleanor and Ava are weird examples because for their seemingly minor role and/or limited screentime, they actually have huge impacts on the plot direction and/or in the backstories of other characters. So while I definitely think more should've/could've been done with them--particularly Ava--, I think they were actually used a good amount.
However, yes--Eleanor is indeed screwed over sufficiently to be on my list. Thank you coding leaks!
Yeah, you could talk to her once in the hub area with Rebecca & Kenny(in which she questions why Clementine decided to save her despite Jane's pressure and attempting to delude herself that Carlos is still alive) and a few quick times when shit happens, but that's about it.
And yes, the lack of more direct love and support options with her just goes to show how much a number of the developers and executives had it out for her.
Oh, I understand--I'm fairly forgiving and open-minded after all. Doesn't mean I have to jump on the bandwagon and pretend I like it.
I didnt say you have to like it. I dont, either. But its the truth. She was an asshole when we came across first.
That, and how they gave Sarah two identical death scenes within minutes of each other, and then made sure that everyone disregarded her existence afterwards, even someone like Kenny who was shown to have a soft spot for children.
Hell, they didn't even let her live long enough to simply have her be killed during the Russian shooting if they weren't planning on letting her survive, considering their track record of determinant characters at the time.
It's a little depressing and scary that a character such as Sarah would receive this much vitriol from the creators because of her condition (having anxiety due to her confirmed PTSD), when there's no real justification as to why Sarah would ever deserve this much hatred to the point where we're meant to celebrate her deaths.
Oh man...
St. John's
Larry
Chuck
Molly
Omid
Christa
Pete
Kennys friend
Alvin
Luke
I wish Mike Bonnie and Arvo would die but you get to kill them.
Marianna
Max
Ava
Francine
AJ, I know AJ isn't dead, but he would've been great in this season.
A few of these names you're listing are raising an eyebrow.
Uh-huh.
It's Walter, ya fool.
Agreed.
Omid and Christa: Obvious reasons.
William Carver: This guy had a lot of intrigue and hyped up a lot.
Kenny and Jane: Obvious reasons.
Sarah: You teach her to use a gun and it leads to nothing.
Max: He had the mix of good and bad which I don't think we really got.
Katjaa: Not saying she wasn't a good character...but it's disappointing they killed her off as it wa skinda out of character for her to kill herself
Edith and pretty much entire wellington.
All 400 days.
Doug: I felt like they didn't put much effort as they did to Carley. Not that he was terrible or anything but something more coulda been done.
Conrad: Glad he can survive the entire season but he was kinda glossed over in Ep 5
Rest of ANF cast weren't really wasted, they were just trash.
agree with everything you said, but I think Omid's instant death at season 2 was good in that it set the tone for the season. I think his character was the best written, along with Lee and Kenny.
Gabe, for 3 reasons and I'm gonna be very specific here and describe how they could've been fixed.
A. Making him Dislikable for some people.
This could've EASILY been fixed if his dialogues were done better. EX: "I can't be some helpless little boy anymore. I need to be man...just like my Dad was." Tbh, I don't really MIND this cliche of him wanting to be a man. But I wouldn't have had him use THOSE WORDS. Instead "I can't just sit back and watch anymore, Javi. I can't lose anyone else. If I don't step-up now...then Mariana will have died for nothing."
B. Having him SNITCH Non-Determinately.
If there's one thing I would've changed here is that if Javi doesn't directly INSULT Gabe, he'd calm down, and Clem would step in and defend Gabe by pointing out that Javi and others needed all the help they could get, and how Gabe had been helpful so far by helping find the Guns and (Determinately) managing to bail Javi out of Jail earlier.
C. Making him Determinately DEAD in the Finale.
Here, I would've just let him live regardless. Assuming Javi and Clem don't go after him, whenever they DO find him at the crash site he's fighting off walkers just around the corner. At that point, we'd have a Gabe Equivalent of "Still Not Bitten."
You know, though I agree with most of this, I've honestly felt that A is a bit on the abstract side since the beginning.
A lot of them tbh, but if I had to pick the one that disappointed me the most if would have been Nick on season 2. Really, I loved Nick both as a person and as a character, in the first 2 episodes he felt by far like the deepest character of the cabin group. Then he either dies at episode 2, or you can save him so that he has 2 lines in episode 3 before diying anyways.
Get outta here.
Gabe can actually not snitch on Javi. I don't know what triggers this.
Omid was well written but it was a waste killing him and Christa(I don't think she's coming back sadly) so early. Did it set the tone? Sure but that tone was on and off and pretty much leads to nothing. Besides, if you're going to kill off a good original character(By original I mean season 1), have his death mean something more. Maybe have killed by a good villian or at the very least have his death affect someone. .Like when Lee died, it ment a lot(you can see it's a big moment( as it showed that it's Clementine's turn to take care of herself). His death was pretty much shock value and most people were excited to see Omid and Christa's role in season 2. Abandoning the original characters was a big risk and it did not pay off. This is why most ANF characters are disliked or just meh to people.
As far as I know, only just not shooting Conrad.
Which is stupid.
No I've seen a playthrough where doesn't snitch even if you killed Conrad
Every character after S1.
To be fair, Omid's death clearly had an significant affect on Clementine and Christa.
Did the player mention the savefile being messed up? Happens sometimes when you replay Episodes. Also if you don't kill Conrad, he can STILL die in Episode 3, leaving Gabe nothing to snitch about regardless.
Really now? Wonder if Telltale saw the backlash and patched that out too.
Not really. Other than a few minutes and considering Christa is gone, we don't really explore that effect to detail.
Unlikely. My game isn't updating. It must've been an issue with the Save File.
I suppose. Still more solidified than with Nick and Sarah, though.
Chuck
Ben
Eddie
Nate
Omid
Christa
Nick
Sarah
Russian group
Damn near everyone in ANF holy shit season 3 sucked so much ass.