*Seeing the threads for Winslow and Anemone popping up..*
What on earth have I begun?
AAAAaaaaaaanyway..
Lovely fan art, 10 hours you say? wow.
I was thinking more about this last night and I really do find it interesting that in the opening duel, even though he already lost his hand, the 'Brush makes not one offensive strike or cut towards morgan. as if from the very beginning of their "Relationship" (I mean that in a professional and spacial sense) he is already trying to show her a little bit of the magic of those stories she followed.
So far, 'Tales' has been excellent for the addition of some wonderful new characters. Morgan is one, DeSinge is another, and also Anenome. And Winslow already feels like he's been part of the series for ages. I'm really impressed with these characters.
So far, 'Tales' has been excellent for the addition of some wonderful new characters. Morgan is one, DeSinge is another, and also Anenome. And Winslow already feels like he's been part of the series for ages. I'm really impressed with these characters.
I'm just happy to see that people are finally deciding to give this series a chance without complaining for the next thousand years or so.
Morgan Le Flay is amazing, and the puzzle with her is just another reason why this game could not have been made in 2D. By the next Monkey Island game, people will probably be clamoring to see Winslow, Morgan, and De Singe again instead of and/or alongside Wally, Murray, and Largo.
I was thinking more about this last night and I really do find it interesting that in the opening duel, even though he already lost his hand, the 'Brush makes not one offensive strike or cut towards morgan. as if from the very beginning of their "Relationship" (I mean that in a professional and spacial sense) he is already trying to show her a little bit of the magic of those stories she followed.
i think it's less guybrush trying to show her the magic, and more that that's just the way he is. he'd not really the type to attack a woman, even if she is trying to gut him.
i think it's less guybrush trying to show her the magic, and more that that's just the way he is. he'd not really the type to attack a woman, even if she is trying to gut him.
guybrush is a good man.
Everytime I see your avatar I hear Dominic Armato in my head going
"I love Grog.. Groggy Grog Grog. It's going down. Down to mah belly."
Niiiiice! . Very very, nice.
I like Morgan, she's a great new villian, I'd rather have her being Guybrush's wife, then Elaine, she just doesn't seem right for him.
If you have a DeviantArt page you gotta link me (If you don't feel conformable submitting the link on a public forum just send it to me via private message )
Also, I prefer the original to the cell-shaded. She just seems to fit more with the background
Funny really, first time ever i've heard people even talk about Guybrush's lovelife Him and Elaine have always been such a constant of the series it seemed almost unthinkable to consider an alternative
If you have a DeviantArt page you gotta link me (If you don't feel conformable submitting the link on a public forum just send it to me via private message )
Also, I prefer the original to the cell-shaded. She just seems to fit more with the background
i think it's less guybrush trying to show her the magic, and more that that's just the way he is. he'd not really the type to attack a woman, even if she is trying to gut him.
guybrush is a good man.
I think this whole conversation is both ridiculous and either underestimating LeFlay or overestimating Guybrush. It's just what LeFlay says, she can match him blow-for-blow.
And he DOES make an offensive strike, it's one of the alternatives. "See if you can parry THIS!".
Guybrush has to "out-think" his opponent in a fight. The whole point of that sequence was to mirror insult sword-fighting's MEANING and PURPOSE without blatantly ripping the puzzle straight from Secret and Curse, and it was done marvelously.
I think this whole conversation is both ridiculous and either underestimating LeFlay or overestimating Guybrush. It's just what LeFlay says, she can match him blow-for-blow.
And he DOES make an offensive strike, it's one of the alternatives. "See if you can parry THIS!".
Guybrush has to "out-think" his opponent in a fight. The whole point of that sequence was to mirror insult sword-fighting's MEANING and PURPOSE without blatantly ripping the puzzle straight from Secret and Curse, and it was done marvelously.
And they make the point in the 5 minute/10 minute thing that she only THINKS she can match him, it's not proven.
I didn't know about that option, I never saw it. but I'm talking the regular animations, 90% of the time he is parrying her strikes. if she was truely his equal, he woudl be attacking and she would be blocking just as much, but he doesn't.
THAT was my point. there is no over or under estimation just commenting.
And they make the point in the 5 minute/10 minute thing that she only THINKS she can match him, it's not proven.
I honestly think that she, in most respects, is far more competent than Guybrush himself.
I didn't know about that option, I never saw it. but I'm talking the regular animations, 90% of the time he is parrying her strikes. if she was truely his equal, he woudl be attacking and she would be blocking just as much, but he doesn't.
Doesn't that more imply that she had an upper hand rather than Guybrush being chivalrous(also known as belittling a person's ability based on their gender)? It seemed to me that the overall tone of the scene was that LeFlay was simply in charge. She grappled on without being detected, tied up the mate, cut off the hand, and engaged Guybrush without giving him much of a chance to strike(though he does get one in if you spend long enough messing with the puzzle). I think it was less that Guybrush was unwilling and more that he was unable.
Or Telltale only wanted to/could afford to do one set of animations.
I honestly think that she, in most respects, is far more competent than Guybrush himself.
Competency. Oh she is more than likely more competent in many aspects of life that the 'Brush, but I feel he is her match when it comes to Piratey wiles.
Doesn't that more imply that she had an upper hand rather than Guybrush being chivalrous(also known as belittling a person's ability based on their gender)?
Oh come off it, Chivalry is NOT belittling someone. It is doing something NICE for someone simply because you can. Opening a door for someone, helping them with something, what ever. It needn't be man to woman, it can be any combination of those genders.
It seemed to me that the overall tone of the scene was that LeFlay was simply in charge. She grappled on without being detected, tied up the mate, cut off the hand, and engaged Guybrush without giving him much of a chance to strike(though he does get one in if you spend long enough messing with the puzzle). I think it was less that Guybrush was unwilling and more that he was unable.
I'm not going to deny that LeFlay was in control of the overall situation, she put guybrush in a position few have even after 4 and a bit games. However go back again and watch the animation, watch guybrush. He doesn't seem to be defending in a panic, or parrying to save his life, it's somewhat blase, as if he could do it all after noon hence the "Aren't you tired yet?" comment. As if he is trying to wear her out rather than beat her. I'm not saying she isn't VERY VERY good, I'm saying in that scene, Guybrush seems to be in Easy mode. (this could very well be due to the animations and not intended, bit it is how it came across to me.) Plus I think we're Romanticizing it a bit lol
Or Telltale only wanted to/could afford to do one set of animations.
Competency. Oh she is more than likely more competent in many aspects of life that the 'Brush, but I feel he is her match when it comes to Piratey wiles.
And it seems to me that she's more competent in just about everything *but* holding her breath underwater.
Oh come off it, Chivalry is NOT belittling someone. It is doing something NICE for someone simply because you can. Opening a door for someone, helping them with something, what ever. It needn't be man to woman, it can be any combination of those genders.
He's in a life-or-death situation and someone says he's not attacking because she's a woman. I don't see how that would be anything but condescending.
I'm not going to deny that LeFlay was in control of the overall situation, she put guybrush in a position few have even after 4 and a bit games. However go back again and watch the animation, watch guybrush. He doesn't seem to be defending in a panic, or parrying to save his life, it's somewhat blase, as if he could do it all after noon hence the "Aren't you tired yet?" comment. As if he is trying to wear her out rather than beat her. I'm not saying she isn't VERY VERY good, I'm saying in that scene, Guybrush seems to be in Easy mode. (this could very well be due to the animations and not intended, bit it is how it came across to me.)
I don't think the animation itself was supposed to convey too much other than "Swordfight". And anyway, the "Aren't you tired yet?" line heavily implied to me that he was just trying to find any humorous excuse out of a situation that was impossible without a stupid situation set in place by an adventure game puzzle.
For that entire scene, I was looking for a way to get him to jump into the ocean, just as a way to beat her.
The moment I saw the Seagull with the hand, I knew the fish had to come into play somehow. wasn't sure how though.
but it does occur to me that if PoxElaine got pissed because the 'Brush said he didn't trust LeChuck, Imagine her reaction when she finds out that Morgan is a Woman and took his wedding ring lol
The moment I saw the Seagull with the hand, I knew the fish had to come into play somehow. wasn't sure how though.
but it does occur to me that if PoxElaine got pissed because the 'Brush said he didn't trust LeChuck, Imagine her reaction when she finds out that Morgan is a Woman and took his wedding ring lol
As soon as I saw the barrel of fish tied to the mast I knew it had to come into play. Otherwise there wouldn't be a barrel of fish there.
And if you try doing something at one point you hear winslow shout from the cabin something like "Do I hear someone messing with the fish barrel?"
I see a cute love story coming, a divorce from miss Threepwood, and a lot of funny love-comedy situations.
I always looked for the "enemy-becomes-lover" situations. It's pretty rare...
I see a cute love story coming, a divorce from miss Threepwood, and a lot of funny love-comedy situations.
I always looked for the "enemy-becomes-lover" situations. It's pretty rare...
I might try my (very shaky) hand at something soon.
Was just replaying Spinner Cay when I noticed a Dialouge tree I didn't discover the first time between Elaine and the 'Brush about LeChuck and the moment on the boat. interesting stuff.
I've put this in the ch3 speculation thread as well, but how's about:
A MI musical song!
The voiceover for Morgan (Nicki Rapp) is a good singer and enjoys using it where she can. I do believe Dominic has done some singy acting in the past too but his arm would have to be twisted. As would Denny Delk's.
Sorry but the manatee seems a bit empty (even with Murray and maybe Stan there) until/unless De Cava shows up. Remember "Three Sheets to the Wind" from CMI? The episode needed a first half to flesh it out from the insult swordfighting.
i think it's less guybrush trying to show her the magic, and more that that's just the way he is. he'd not really the type to attack a woman, even if she is trying to gut him.
I wasn't around for the design of that scene, but my read on it since playing it was more that Guybrush was always on the defense because Morgan was simply better with a sword than Guybrush, but Guybrush could gain the upper hand because, while he's competent enough, he'd for some reason end up combining a bucket of fish with tipping a boat with a seagull with a plank and win that way.
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What on earth have I begun?
AAAAaaaaaaanyway..
Lovely fan art, 10 hours you say? wow.
I was thinking more about this last night and I really do find it interesting that in the opening duel, even though he already lost his hand, the 'Brush makes not one offensive strike or cut towards morgan. as if from the very beginning of their "Relationship" (I mean that in a professional and spacial sense) he is already trying to show her a little bit of the magic of those stories she followed.
I'd be thrilled to see Guybrush and her end up together
I should have realized that, from the way the statues were designed. I've got to play again and take a closer look at it. :S
Isle of Eve? : )
I'm just happy to see that people are finally deciding to give this series a chance without complaining for the next thousand years or so.
Morgan Le Flay is amazing, and the puzzle with her is just another reason why this game could not have been made in 2D. By the next Monkey Island game, people will probably be clamoring to see Winslow, Morgan, and De Singe again instead of and/or alongside Wally, Murray, and Largo.
guybrush is a good man.
Everytime I see your avatar I hear Dominic Armato in my head going
"I love Grog.. Groggy Grog Grog. It's going down. Down to mah belly."
I like Morgan, she's a great new villian, I'd rather have her being Guybrush's wife, then Elaine, she just doesn't seem right for him.
If you have a DeviantArt page you gotta link me
Also, I prefer the original to the cell-shaded. She just seems to fit more with the background
you know what, Telltale?
YOU WILL DO THIS.
WHY?
BECAUSE....
Boo-wii-oop!
http://garrenh.deviantart.com/
the more the merrrier, i always say!
And he DOES make an offensive strike, it's one of the alternatives. "See if you can parry THIS!".
Guybrush has to "out-think" his opponent in a fight. The whole point of that sequence was to mirror insult sword-fighting's MEANING and PURPOSE without blatantly ripping the puzzle straight from Secret and Curse, and it was done marvelously.
And they make the point in the 5 minute/10 minute thing that she only THINKS she can match him, it's not proven.
I didn't know about that option, I never saw it. but I'm talking the regular animations, 90% of the time he is parrying her strikes. if she was truely his equal, he woudl be attacking and she would be blocking just as much, but he doesn't.
THAT was my point. there is no over or under estimation just commenting.
Doesn't that more imply that she had an upper hand rather than Guybrush being chivalrous(also known as belittling a person's ability based on their gender)? It seemed to me that the overall tone of the scene was that LeFlay was simply in charge. She grappled on without being detected, tied up the mate, cut off the hand, and engaged Guybrush without giving him much of a chance to strike(though he does get one in if you spend long enough messing with the puzzle). I think it was less that Guybrush was unwilling and more that he was unable.
Or Telltale only wanted to/could afford to do one set of animations.
Competency. Oh she is more than likely more competent in many aspects of life that the 'Brush, but I feel he is her match when it comes to Piratey wiles.
Oh come off it, Chivalry is NOT belittling someone. It is doing something NICE for someone simply because you can. Opening a door for someone, helping them with something, what ever. It needn't be man to woman, it can be any combination of those genders.
I'm not going to deny that LeFlay was in control of the overall situation, she put guybrush in a position few have even after 4 and a bit games. However go back again and watch the animation, watch guybrush. He doesn't seem to be defending in a panic, or parrying to save his life, it's somewhat blase, as if he could do it all after noon hence the "Aren't you tired yet?" comment. As if he is trying to wear her out rather than beat her. I'm not saying she isn't VERY VERY good, I'm saying in that scene, Guybrush seems to be in Easy mode. (this could very well be due to the animations and not intended, bit it is how it came across to me.) Plus I think we're Romanticizing it a bit lol
true enough.
He's in a life-or-death situation and someone says he's not attacking because she's a woman. I don't see how that would be anything but condescending.
I don't think the animation itself was supposed to convey too much other than "Swordfight". And anyway, the "Aren't you tired yet?" line heavily implied to me that he was just trying to find any humorous excuse out of a situation that was impossible without a stupid situation set in place by an adventure game puzzle.
Oh, definitely.
The moment I saw the Seagull with the hand, I knew the fish had to come into play somehow. wasn't sure how though.
but it does occur to me that if PoxElaine got pissed because the 'Brush said he didn't trust LeChuck, Imagine her reaction when she finds out that Morgan is a Woman and took his wedding ring lol
As soon as I saw the barrel of fish tied to the mast I knew it had to come into play. Otherwise there wouldn't be a barrel of fish there.
And if you try doing something at one point you hear winslow shout from the cabin something like "Do I hear someone messing with the fish barrel?"
I always looked for the "enemy-becomes-lover" situations. It's pretty rare...
She already Idolises him.
Enough to.. Oh, I don't know.. Kill Elaine to marry Guybrush Threepwood?!?
Yep. nothing more romantic. :rolleyes: Then again, this is a world of pirates...
Wait, What?
Are you implying Morgan is going to Kill Elaine?
Yes I know you are responding to the above post. I am just screwing around.
http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11469
It took me all day to make this. Literally ALL DAY. I wish I could do stuff like this faster.
cool pic tho!
I might try my (very shaky) hand at something soon.
Was just replaying Spinner Cay when I noticed a Dialouge tree I didn't discover the first time between Elaine and the 'Brush about LeChuck and the moment on the boat. interesting stuff.
also when you offer Elaine the
Not very pirate-y.
Agreed on all counts.
Call me crazy, I almost feel like things are heading in that direction, what with
A MI musical song!
The voiceover for Morgan (Nicki Rapp) is a good singer and enjoys using it where she can. I do believe Dominic has done some singy acting in the past too but his arm would have to be twisted. As would Denny Delk's.
Sorry but the manatee seems a bit empty (even with Murray and maybe Stan there) until/unless De Cava shows up. Remember "Three Sheets to the Wind" from CMI? The episode needed a first half to flesh it out from the insult swordfighting.
Just a thought.
I wasn't around for the design of that scene, but my read on it since playing it was more that Guybrush was always on the defense because Morgan was simply better with a sword than Guybrush, but Guybrush could gain the upper hand because, while he's competent enough, he'd for some reason end up combining a bucket of fish with tipping a boat with a seagull with a plank and win that way.
Morgan is pretty great, though. The weird fangirlism and ruthlessness is a fun combo.