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    Fangirl101 posted: »

    I understood the joke.

  • Blind SniperBlind Sniper Moderator
    edited November 2017

    "Piss kennyfags right off, that's for sure."

    Late to the party as it just recently got reported, but please don't use terms like "kennyfags" here.

    Louche posted: »

    Yeah, if only you actually got to BE her partner with Clementine as the lead role, eh? That would make for a fun story. Kate being Jane? Wh

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    Somebody reported me? :o
    Sorry, forgot I wasn't on such a risque forum. I won't use that term again. You know I'm not slurring gay people right? It just means people that are obsessed with Kenny and think he does no wrong.

    "Piss kennyfags right off, that's for sure." Late to the party as it just recently got reported, but please don't use terms like "kennyfags" here.

  • I'm glad to see another person agrees. Hadn't seen this brought up but it seems to me like shitty writing 101. Perfect opportunity to make up for mariana's lack of screentime before her death AND make this episode more emotional because of it.
    But nope, completely useless Gabe scene that could have been summed up with 1 line about gabe leaving a note in a different scene. The guy that's still alive the whole season doesn't exactly need more attention.

    Fangirl101 posted: »

    That was the perfect time to give Mariana more screentime, especially since her death is important in this episode, but what do we get? 2 Ma

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    It.

    I won't even justify that with a response.

    Eh...I can see why you'd say that, unfortunately.

    Yup.

    I love that opening.

    Can't imagine why. It's the most annoying of all the flashbacks.

    She always seemed pretty damn harsh about Da Rulez, even if she would occasionally break them herself. She seemed pretty rebellious of Roman, or at least mocked him a bit behind his back.

    I'm just saying Carver was a lot more intimidating than some skinhead in leather jacket who used to be in a boy band.
    Just saying you'd probably go along with whatever he says. Especially if you're a kid... unless you're forced into an improbable role of being an 11 year old protagonist savior of everyone too scared to do it themselves.

    Exactly. She naturally deserved more emphasis than all of them anyway, but that adds another layer that makes her wasted utilization more legitimate.

    Wait, I thought you hated Becca's guts. (not nearly as much as Jane though) But now you're saying you wanted to see more of her?

    I don't think it was that she literally didn't remember who he was, just that she couldn't really think/concentrate on the matter. She also could've been partially avoiding the question for the sake of keeping the group's secrets.

    Meh. I'm just going to chalk it up to inconsistent writing. One moment Sarah acts like a dumb little kid, the next she's practically snarking at Reggie about them just coming from a place with electricity.

    Meh, I guess. Then again, Clementine is not like other kids/youth, after all.

    Well, it sure makes it easier for everyone to giver her dangerous tasks when they think like that, isn't it. That theme could have been explored more.

    I didn't mean literally. Just that she gave up trying to talk him out of the issue in favor of just focusing on a positive: letting Clementine go on her own while AJ stays with them, allowing him to eventually die in relative comfort while not having Clementine get herself killed having to take care of him.

    AJ's mysterious illness sucked. There should have been a better reason. Like they just kick her out but refuse to give her a baby because they think she can't take care of it. The illness wasn't really needed, was it?

    Btw, am I the only one who thought it would be revealed that she (and/or maybe Lingard) would be revealed to have been sneaking AJ medicine under the table to help him get better?

    I did not think that, probably because I was too busy trying to figure out the writing as is.

    I had to go to class. Anyway, here's my rewrite thread if you really wanna post some stuff.

    Sure, I know it. I'm just cut out for it, yet.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Say what again. Say it one more time. I dare you. See what happens. It. I know that, I'm just saying that was some of the m

  • Thank you! I just hope for The Final Season we get a very powerful and evil villain one that the players will love to hate similar to Negan!

    Fangirl101 posted: »

    Good list. I agree, we need more prominent villains.

  • I won't even justify that with a response.

    :lol:

    Can't imagine why. It's the most annoying of all the flashbacks.

    Eh...is it? Cause I was always under the impression that the Part 2 one had a bigger issue.

    I mean we know why she didn't really get featured much in that flashback, but considering they had over 3 months of rewriting time on their hands, it's clear that that really is an egregious oversight brought on by a pretty late change.

    I'm just saying Carver was a lot more intimidating than some skinhead in leather jacket who used to be in a boy band.
    Just saying you'd probably go along with whatever he says. Especially if you're a kid...

    Eh, fair enough.

    unless you're forced into an improbable role of being an 11 year old protagonist savior of everyone too scared to do it themselves.

    Which is funny considering Kenny is the one to kill him. Where exactly did this point come from again?

    Wait, I thought you hated Becca's guts. (not nearly as much as Jane though) But now you're saying you wanted to see more of her?

    I never said that. I might've acknowledged that she isn't a very pleasant person, but there are very few characters I'd say I hate and she doesn't really come close to qualification.
    What I mean is that her status as a Shadow Archetype of Clementine naturally meant it made perfect sense for her to be utilized more over the others.

    Meh. I'm just going to chalk it up to inconsistent writing. One moment Sarah acts like a dumb little kid, the next she's practically snarking at Reggie about them just coming from a place with electricity.

    To be fair, Reggie asked when was the last time they had electricity and she answered him, so I'm pretty sure it was just her being honest at the cost of being a bit dim/ignorant to the fact that he was being rhetorical. It was funny either way.

    Though her determinately [openly] calling Jane a weirdo afterwards is a admittedly bit OOC, as hilariously random as it was.

    Well, it sure makes it easier for everyone to giver her dangerous tasks when they think like that, isn't it. That theme could have been explored more.

    Uh, ya think. Actually, they sorta did, but not to the deconstructive degree.

    AJ's mysterious illness sucked. There should have been a better reason. Like they just kick her out but refuse to give her a baby because they think she can't take care of it. The illness wasn't really needed, was it?

    For her bitterness to make more justifiable sense, it apparently was.

    I did not think that, probably because I was too busy trying to figure out the writing as is.

    lol.

    Sure, I know it. I'm just cut out for it, yet.

    K.

    Louche posted: »

    It. I won't even justify that with a response. Eh...I can see why you'd say that, unfortunately. Yup. I love tha

  • Eh...is it? Cause I was always under the impression that the Part 2 one had a bigger issue.

    Oh, blah, the "confused about what option to pick" thing? Sounds like a meme to me. Javier telling David that Kate will leave him, right? It's dumb, but it has a point. Furthering the "Dramatic" love triangle. :smirk:

    I mean we know why she didn't really get featured much in that flashback, but considering they had over 3 months of rewriting time on their hands, it's clear that that really is an egregious oversight brought on by a pretty late change.

    I don't. Because originally she was kidnapped? I dunno. But I do know this isn't 2D animation. 3 months should be enough to add a short scene of Javier having some poignant discussion with Mariana. 3D models, man. Once all the lighting and scenery is set up, you just have to puppet them. I'm not saying it's easy, but compared to how tedious and mind-numbing 2D animation was? No excuse.
    And oversights? Well, you could fill a book with them.

    Eh, fair enough.

    I actually like Roman, though. You can tell he feels bad about what he has to do, but really thinks he has to do it. But he certainly had potential to go down the same path that Carver did.

    Which is funny considering Kenny is the one to kill him. Where exactly did this point come from again?

    Only after Clem does a flying leap of super Justice onto Carver, and Luke disarms him. Not to mention Kenny needs to cripple him first. How "manly"

    I never said that. I might've acknowledged that she isn't a very pleasant person, but there are very few characters I'd say I hate and she doesn't really come close to qualification. What I mean is that her status as a Shadow Archetype of Clementine naturally meant it made perfect sense for her to be utilized more over the others.

    Yeah, I agree. I just could have sworn you said you didn't want to see more of her at some point. A long while ago.

    To be fair, Reggie asked when was the last time they had electricity and she answered him, so I'm pretty sure it was just her being honest at the cost of being a bit dim/ignorant to the fact that he was being rhetorical. It was funny either way.

    We needed more Sarah to establish her personality properly, I guess. It's funny, my first playthrough I thought she had enough screentime. Probably because she kinda annoyed me. Funny how perspectives change. Now I can see how shafted she got after episode 1. Even in episode 1, to some degree where you're forced to make small talk while Clem is bleeding to death if you want to get to know her.

    Though her determinately [openly] calling Jane a weirdo afterwards is a admittedly bit OOC, as hilariously random as it was.

    Where was that?
    More like a bit ironic, really. Considering.

    Uh, ya think. Actually, they sorta did, but not to the deconstructive degree.

    Still enjoy seeing Bonnie get her face smashed after being so coy about making Clementine do it.

    For her bitterness to make more justifiable sense, it apparently was.

    Losing her guardian again wasn't enough? Pfft.

    lol.

    I'm not joking either.

    DabigRG posted: »

    I won't even justify that with a response. Can't imagine why. It's the most annoying of all the flashbacks. Eh...is i

  • Oh, blah, the "confused about what option to pick" thing? Sounds like a meme to me. Javier telling David that Kate will leave him, right? It's dumb, but it has a point. >Furthering the "Dramatic" love triangle. :smirk:

    Yeah, "Love Triangle."

    I don't. Because originally she was kidnapped? I dunno.

    ...Well, sure, that too. But primarily, it's because she was actually written to be Gabe's cousin up until fairly late in the first two-parter's production, specifically sometime after the voices were being recorded.
    Thus, Mariana didn't really have room to say much on the topic of discussion there because it didn't really affect her. That's not to say she couldn't say anything and the 3 months of rewrites after Ties that Bind are exactly what this oddity pertains, but still.

    But I do know this isn't 2D animation. 3 months should be enough to add a short scene of Javier having some poignant discussion with Mariana.

    Ok. Um...about what? What I just mentioned kind of takes away the main thing they would've been able to talk about there. Not to mention that flashback had presumably taken place at least 3 days after outbreak.

    And oversights? Well, you could fill a book with them.

    True dat.

    I actually like Roman, though. You can tell he feels bad about what he has to do, but really thinks he has to do it. But he certainly had potential to go down the same path that Carver did.

    Yeah, he was alright. If a little too strict and harsh, if you ask me.

    Only after Clem does a flying leap of super Justice onto Carver, and Luke disarms him. Not to mention Kenny needs to cripple him first. How "manly"

    I honestly don't remember what this was about, but yeah.

    Yeah, I agree. I just could have sworn you said you didn't want to see more of her at some point. A long while ago.

    I might've said something about potentially not being very tolerant of her in person or something like that, but I honestly can't say.

    We needed more Sarah to establish her personality properly, I guess. It's funny, my first playthrough I thought she had enough screentime. Probably because she kinda annoyed me. Funny how perspectives change. Now I can see how shafted she got after episode 1. Even in episode 1, to some degree where you're forced to make small talk while Clem is bleeding to death if you want to get to know her.

    She kinda zigzags, tbh. She was always the most interesting and even complex of the Cabin Group imho and her naturally emotional temperament means she's more readable. And yet you're right that you don't really get to know her know her and there was also definitely a lot more room for development to be had.

    That's probably a factor in why she became such a Base-Breaker. ...Even if there are actually fairly few comments about her in non-related older threads I've dug threw. :confused: :

    Where was that?

    It's when Clementine first notices Jane staring at them. If you pick the silent option, Sarah will pick up on Clementine's suspicion and ask Reggie about Jane using that exact term. :lol:

    It was so fuckin out of nowhere when I accidentally discovered it(ergo, didn't decide what/if I wanted to pick in time), I couldn't help but laugh. Then again, that's not the only time she can get snippy.

    More like a bit ironic, really. Considering.

    Considering...?

    Still enjoy seeing Bonnie get her face smashed after being so coy about making Clementine do it.

    Coy? And hey, at least she doesn't make you do something for once (seriously, what the heck Luke/developers?).

    Losing her guardian(or Jane) again wasn't enough? Pfft.

    That had nothing to do with the New Frontier though. Not to mention that happened at least about a year ago for most of them.

    I'm not joking either.

    :joy: Well, it made the most logical sense either way.

    Louche posted: »

    Eh...is it? Cause I was always under the impression that the Part 2 one had a bigger issue. Oh, blah, the "confused about what optio

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    ...Well, sure, that too. But primarily, it's because she was actually written to be Gabe's cousin up until fairly late in the first two-parter's production, specifically sometime after the voices were being recorded. Thus, Mariana didn't really have room to say much on the topic of discussion there because it didn't really affect her. That's not to say she couldn't say anything and the 3 months of rewrites after Ties that Bind are exactly what this oddity pertains, but still.

    Yep, I forgot that. I said before maybe that's why he gets over her death pretty quickly. But it's probably just bad writing.
    I would swear there was a mandate this season "don't make them (the characters) too sad, then the game will be depressing. It needs to be more fun."

    Yeah, he was alright. If a little too strict and harsh, if you ask me.

    Arguably, Stephanie still deserved to die for stealing life-sustaining supplies, not to mention leaving her supposed friends Shel and Becca like that.

    I honestly don't remember what this was about, but yeah.

    Neither do I.

    I might've said something about potentially not being very tolerant of her in person or something like that, but I honestly can't say.

    Well, nothing wrong with changing your mind anyway. Look at me. I used to hate Jane's guts, and absolutely suck Kenny's dick, but now it's the reverse.

    She kinda zigzags, tbh. She was always the most interesting and even complex of the Cabin Group imho and her naturally emotional temperament means she's more readable. And yet you're right that you don't really get to know her know her and there was also definitely a lot more room for development to be had.

    At least give us a proper scene to just talk to her. There's several hubs where the game basically says "fuck you" when you try to get some sarah interaction going.

    That's probably a factor in why she became such a Base-Breaker. ...Even if there are actually fairly few comments about her in non-related older threads I've dug threw. :

    Interesting. Well, I guess it's not shocking. People would have been focused on what was up front initially, and I'm sure Kenny took the spotlight in the forums.

    If you pick the silent option, Sarah will ask Reggie about Jane using that exact term. It was so fuckin out of nowhere I couldn't help but laugh. Then again, that's not the only time she can get snippy.

    Yeah, I remember her getting snippy about something, what was it?
    As for the silent thing, it's pretty funny, huh? You never know when picking silence will produce an interesting, even better, scene (like Larry apologizing to Kenny) or when it will just make the characters skip/ignore the protagonist altogether.
    In Season 2, it can even force the adults to actually GASP make decisions on their own without advice from an 11 year old girl.
    I did a play-through with total mute Clementine, and you know? It worked really well. It felt grittier, more realistic (considering how traumatized she should be) and the adults didn't come off as complete bungling morons. Just mostly.
    It's also ironic as Lee does remark in "A New Day" that Clem doesn't talk much. Is that actually true? Well, you can decide that in season 2.

    Considering...?

    She's kind of a freak herself. Especially in episode 1, she came off a bit creepy there depending on what dialogue options you pick. Funny how no one else really acknowledges her in that way, though, besides Carlos. It would have been neat for some more characters to pick up on the irony that clem and sarah both have the reverse of what maturity their age should bring.

    Coy? And hey, at least she doesn't make you do something for once (seriously, what the heck Luke/developers?).

    "Coy."
    1.artfully or affectedly shy or reserved; slyly hesitant; coquettish.
    2.shy; modest.
    3.showing reluctance, especially when insincere or affected, to reveal one's plans or opinions, make a commitment, or take a stand:
    No, she doesn't make you, but come on. Being snide/calculating with implying that Clem should through is kind of a bitch move. Although whether it's really intentional with Bonnie is hard to tell.
    Forget Luke, How about Kenny forcing you get the radio? Or wanting you to fight armed guards? He tells you that you have no choice. This is the guy that's all about "muh family" and protecting the childruns, but he sure does love putting them in danger. Luke never really made such proclamations explicitly, I'll give him that much.

    Losing her guardian(or Jane) again wasn't enough? Pfft.

    I see what you did to my post, you sneaky bugger

    That had nothing to do with the New Frontier though. Not to mention that happened at least about a year ago for most of them.

    So? I broke my favorite headphones a year ago, and I'm still not over it. And that's a thing, not a person.

    Well, it made the most logical sense either way.

    The human brain can only take so much, well the average one at least.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Oh, blah, the "confused about what option to pick" thing? Sounds like a meme to me. Javier telling David that Kate will leave him, right? It

  • I mean there s ... David... and ... David... WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHAT OTHER CHARACTER BESIDES GABE GOT DEVELOPED AFTER DAVID APPEARED IN EPISODE 3?

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    Yeah, those two and Conrad are the only characters who got any real, notable development in ANF.

    That's not to say the other characters didn't have any, it's just that those three immediately stand out due to getting the proper focus and screentime.

    Though in hindsight, I think you could probably swap David with Clementine since he isn't that particularly layered and she actually does have something to take away from the story, as increasingly slapdash as it was.

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    I mean there s ... David... and ... David... WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHAT OTHER CHARACTER BESIDES GABE GOT DEVELOPED AFTER DAVID APPEARED IN EPISODE 3?

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