Chapter 4 Completed Thread - Spoiler Alert

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  • edited October 2009
    I liked how they pulled Miss Shittywhiskers into the game. Everyone of us thought for sure the blindfolded Club 41 fight just had an out-of-context, humorous, clichéd meow voice... but there was actually a cat!

    Also Krebbs came out of nowhere pretty much but kinda worked.

    The ending was just so epic. I had goose bumps ever since the Sponge got big ('Finally!', I thought) and flashed and removed the pox. Not to speak of the actual ending.

    Then, did LeChuck turn bad when the pox - I might presume his voodoo and evilness in general - got absorbed off normal folk amidst whom LeChuck's evil was spread? Or did the Voodoo Lady confess/hex him in jail? Was he evil all along? I don't think so. I think she hexed him, because she wanted Stan to be the lawyer for both of them in the first place. Also LeChuck's facial expression and tone changed whenever Guybrush was telling him about the sponge... And who killed Morgan? I don't think it was De Singe, and I don't think it was Jacques. A pox-ridden Elaine? Or maybe she even killed herself because she was sorry for everything and wasn't - after all - happy with her life as seen many times in her facial expressions on the previous episodes whenever Guybrush yells to her about that.

    I have a funny feeling that Jacques, though, might be a key to this 'larger scheme' there seems to be (Pirate Godness?). I don't think Voodoo Lady is the mastermind, either. Or, rather, she is, but she's got no choice. Remember how she thought being manipulaTED for once was 'strangely liberating'? Like, she didn't have to do her job for a second, to stress about what's becoming of this world if she doesn't fulfill her hoodoo-shmoodoo that's meant for her...
  • edited October 2009
    Kroms wrote: »
    - DeSinge not being French.

    I didn't really get the joke there. I guess it could be a reference to Agatha Christie's fictional detective Hercule Poirot, who was a French-speaking Belgian and always got annoyed when people took him for French. But there's nothing else to make that connection, and DeSinge doesn't react the same way Poirot did -- Poirot would explain that he was Belgian, not just say he was offended.
  • edited October 2009
    I thought the joke was that DeSinge was offended that Guybrush assumed that he was French. Gee, I wonder what tipped Guybrush off :D
  • edited October 2009
    TimMann wrote: »
    I didn't really get the joke there. I guess it could be a reference to Agatha Christie's fictional detective Hercule Poirot, who was a French-speaking Belgian and always got annoyed when people took him for French. But there's nothing else to make that connection, and DeSinge doesn't react the same way Poirot did -- Poirot would explain that he was Belgian, not just say he was offended.
    The joke is that DeSinge is a huge French sterotype...but is not actually French, and treats the idea as absurd.

    Funny thing is, turbans actually were popular for upper-class western European men of the late 18th century! In a relaxed setting when they weren't wearing their powered wigs, that is.
  • edited October 2009
    Fronzel wrote: »
    The joke is that DeSinge is a huge French sterotype...but is not actually French, and treats the idea as absurd.

    Yes, I suppose that's all there is to the joke. He's got a thick French accent and a French name and served (IIRC) at the court of a French king, but is totally baffled and offended that you'd imagine he was French. Ha ha.

    I understood all that but didn't find it funny, so was looking for more there. Guess there wasn't any more.
  • edited October 2009
    He also has a great wig, painted his face white, wears lipstick, and wears pink pants. I thought the joke was hilarious.
  • edited November 2009
    After I completed Chapter Four, I just had one thing to say...
    Oh my god, they killed Guybrush!! You bastards!!!
    :eek:

    Still, it was the best chapter so far, it had awesome puzzles, awesome humor, and lots of suspense! And finally, Chapter One's cliffhanger has been topped!

    Now I really can't wait to find out what will happen in Chapter Five. Like,
    is Guybrush really dead? Or will he be brought back to life? Will we get to play Elaine for as long as Guybrush is "dead"? Will the whole Pox of LeChuck thing start over, now that LeChuck released it again?

    Gosh, I'm still paralysed! :eek:
  • edited November 2009
    did anyone else notice that Elaine said at the end: i knew that he was bad all along... SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT HE'S GOOD NOW!!!
  • edited November 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    did anyone else notice that Elaine said at the end: i knew that he was bad all along... SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT HE'S GOOD NOW!!!
    She did say she should keep an eye on LeChuck in the end of Chapter Two. While she thought he was good in the beginning of said chapter, she actually suspected he was still evil in the end.

    By the way, what does this mean, in the end of the walkthrough (I only read it after finishing the game):
    As we hang our head in reverence, our story has one last chapter to unfold.

    ...or does it?


    "...or does it?"?!? Will they or won't they release a fifth chapter?
  • edited November 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    did anyone else notice that Elaine said at the end: i knew that he was bad all along... SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT HE'S GOOD NOW!!!

    Well, she has a bit of a history with hypocrisy. Remember MI2 where she took credit for killing LeChuck?
  • edited November 2009
    BeeKay84 wrote: »
    By the way, what does this mean, in the end of the walkthrough (I only read it after finishing the game):
    As we hang our head in reverence, our story has one last chapter to unfold.

    ...or does it?


    "...or does it?"?!? Will they or won't they release a fifth chapter?

    Maybe there are actually
    two more chapters!
    Well, maybe not, but a girl can dream.
  • edited November 2009
    Wow, I was really surprised with the direction they took with this.
    I suppose that Elaine will be the player character for most, if not all, of the next episode? The "How appropriate, you fight like a... cow!" seems to indicate that she'd be taking up Guybrush's role.

    I'm a little annoyed that ghost pirate LeChuck is back with his current character model. He looks like a frog
  • edited November 2009
    I really doubt we will control anyone other than Guybrush
  • edited November 2009
    how could guybrush die OHHHH TTG you better bring him back to life in chapter 5
  • edited November 2009
    I find this episode too grim, too depressing -- which, depending on how you look at it, means that it is emotionally affecting as well.
  • edited November 2009
    That's what you get for playing the game is sections we are in the part of the story right before the climax and conclusion... the part where it all looks really grim for our heroes... its all pretty common story telling stuff and it was inevitable.

    You really cant judge each as its own story, you need to consider it all together.
  • edited November 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    You really cant judge each as its own story, you need to consider it all together.
    Sometimes, that's hard to do, but you're absolutely right.
  • edited November 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    I really doubt we will control anyone other than Guybrush
    But we already did - remember the Voodoo lady in episode 3? ;)
  • edited November 2009
    There are limitless possibilities with the death of Guyrbrush. First of all since every episode has featured recurring Monkey island themes like Murray, Stan, holding breath for 10 mins and lots more, it's my guess we'll return to Monkey Island (of course) next chapter.

    I think we'll have to escape out of hell ending up on the isle.

    Controlling Elaine looks doubtful to me: after all it was still Guybrush piloting the Voodoo Lady.

    Having said that, I think Telltale have created a great story worthy of the series.
  • edited November 2009
    The shocking revelation was that De Singe is actually North African, not French!
  • edited November 2009
    apenpaap wrote: »
    Well, she has a bit of a history with hypocrisy. Remember MI2 where she took credit for killing LeChuck?

    Only the Voodoo Lady did that, to my knowledge
    Byakko wrote: »
    Personally, I wouldn't mind playing as Elaine, at least in the front part of the last chapter until invariable GB gets back.

    <insert getting to see what's in Elaine's pants/inventory joke>

    I know what I'd be doing if I posessed her :D
  • edited November 2009
    PainDealer wrote: »
    The shocking revelation was that De Singe is actually North African, not French!

    Nah he is from Quebec
    tbm1986 wrote: »
    I know what I'd be doing if I posessed her :D

    Playing Monkey Island?
  • edited November 2009
    On cleaner thoughts for the chapter past and the one ahead...

    Mike Stemmle stated in an interview for a magazine recently when talking about ch5 (anyone have a link? I only saw the snapshot in the wallpaper thread) that it would be taking place (at least in part) in the Land Of The Undead.

    So one possibility is this is beyond Big Whoop, so he could go through the wrong way and into Monkey Island (no prizes for guessing where LeChuck will be taking Elaine).

    Also, it's possible LeChuck really had relented, having been freed of the Voodoo Lady's curse (remember how she reacted when you told her in ch1 he was human now, plus she couldn't track him now?). This would mean she re-hexed him while in jail.

    As to the thought she's a pawn too ("I felt...liberated."), maybe the monkeys really are behind everything (which echoes Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy for me).

    Morgan's killer? Really dead? etc.
    If it were herself, she would have either done it in the street or in the water (besides, the room had been trashed). DeSinge was my first thought, but he ran like a girl at the sight of blood, he confessed. Jacques? She'd have warned Guybrush to get out if it were him. His bretheren? Possibly (even probably). Elaine? Doubtful, seeing as she was seen heading into the jungle before that. Nobody else on the island would have been anywhere near capable of beating her in a swordfight, I feel.

    Feelings on ch4
    Excellent, beyond words.

    Feelings on ch5
    It'll probably be cheesy, Sam & Max cheesy. I'm still looking forward to it, but I doubt they can beat ch4 for me.
  • edited November 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    tbm1986 wrote: »
    I know what I'd be doing if I posessed her :D
    Playing Monkey Island?

    Let's just say that Guybrush jiggling the Voodoo Lady's boobs was mild
  • edited November 2009
    Only the Voodoo Lady did that, to my knowledge
    The woman in the LeChuck suit who keeps you out if you have no invitation says she says she destroyed him.
  • edited November 2009
    Well, I've nothing more to add than was said before in this thread, but I just wanted to give my 2 cents. :D

    - Thanks Telltale for one of the best episodes of TOMI!!

    - Wonderful job of getting Earl Boen back!!!!! Thanks!

    - I really loved Elaine's larger role in this game.

    - I also was sucked right into the climatic ending of this chapter. LeChuck killing Guybrush: I didn't see that coming! Elaine's reaction was so awesome, I hoped to see she cut LeChuck into a thousand pieces, but than we didn't have a chapter 5. :p

    - hope Elaine plays an even bigger role in Chapter 5 and kicks some butt!

    It would be nice if you can play Elaine in the first part of Chapter 5. But I'm just dreaming and hope to see if Telltale will make some of this wishes come true. But then again... will just have to wait! And I can't wait!! :D
  • edited February 2010
    MarcoPollo wrote: »
    I liked the use of the word 'embiggen' on the sponge recipe.

    And, maybe I need to turn off my computer and go to sleep on this one, but the background music around the giant wind instrument statue reminded me of the music to World of Goo. I think.

    I also liked Guybrush's mental train of thought after seeing Morgan LeFlay's body- 15 seconds later: "Ooh! Severed legs! I think I'll take a batch of them!"

    I just searched the entire forum and this is the only place I found somebody reference "embiggen"! Was it a reference to the Simpsons...?
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