Ending to Chapter 4...

edited November 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
Put up your flame shield, Telltale. It's going to get pretty nasty.
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  • edited October 2009
    You bet it will
  • edited October 2009
    Yeh I agree a bold move BIG MASSIVE SPOILER!!!
    Killing Guybrush, maybe we take control of his ghost and he somehows gets back into his body, I don't know just clutching at straws here
  • edited October 2009
    Yeh I agree a bold move BIG MASSIVE SPOILER!!!
    Killing Guybrush, maybe we take control of his ghost and he somehows gets back into his body, I don't know just clutching at straws here

    All I can say is that they better have a good reason. Otherwise, they basically committed suicide as far as Monkey Island fans are concerned.
  • edited October 2009
    Yeh I agree a bold move BIG MASSIVE SPOILER!!!
    Killing Guybrush, maybe we take control of his ghost and he somehows gets back into his body, I don't know just clutching at straws here

    It could happen.
    Could be like the ending of Ghosthunter on the PS2 (the lead dies and you float around as his ghost for a while before magically returning to life.)
  • edited October 2009
    If guybrush stays dead.... i dont even know.... I just dont know what I would do.
  • edited October 2009
    Turok wrote: »
    It could happen.
    Could be like the ending of Ghosthunter on the PS2 (the lead dies and you float around as his ghost for a while before magically returning to life.)

    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather him be dead than float around as a ghost pretending to be dead. There are limits to how far I'll go with an idea like that before I lose interest.
  • edited October 2009
    If guybrush stays dead.... i dont even know.... I just dont know what I would do.

    We would all be sad :( I think we should hold a eulogy for Guybrush, :D to show how much he all ment to us lol :)
  • edited October 2009
    caenicus wrote: »
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather him be dead than float around as a ghost pretending to be dead. There are limits to how far I'll go with an idea like that before I lose interest.

    Same here. Then Morgan becomes the lead. :) Or Elaine and you have to evade LeChucks advances...
  • edited October 2009
    Turok wrote: »
    Same here. Then Morgan becomes the lead. :) Or Elaine and you have to evade LeChucks advances...

    Hmmm. No. I do really like Morgan and I hope she does return in some form or fashion, but I think the only way to play Monkey Island is by playing as Guybrush. To me, it's like playing Leisure Suit Larry as his nephew. It just doesn't work. But hey, I could be wrong.
  • edited October 2009
    caenicus wrote: »
    Hmmm. No. I do really like Morgan and I hope she does return in some form or fashion, but I think the only way to play Monkey Island is by playing as Guybrush. I just don't think an entire episode playing as Elaine would hold my interest long enough, but hey, I could be wrong.

    Well you maybe right, but it would make a change. They could do it as a one off just to end the season leaving you thinking that Guybrush is dead then BAMN season 2 (if there is one *crosses fingers*) hes back in some Voodoo related way.
  • edited October 2009
    Turok wrote: »
    Well you maybe right, but it would make a change. They could do it as a one off just to end the season leaving you thinking that Guybrush is dead then BAMN season 2 (if there is one *crosses fingers*) hes back in some Voodoo related way.

    Hmmm... As much as I'm hoping for Season 2, I just don't know. The last minute of this episode really rubbed me the wrong way and made me question the point of this episode. I just hope it all makes sense next month.

    Maybe I just need a glass of water to cool off. I shouldn't be this disappointed. It's just a game.
  • edited October 2009
    Is it just me or do most of you sound like a bunch of women nether realms? It's not something we couldn't have expected, it was the number one most popular theory on the last episode.
  • edited October 2009
    caenicus wrote: »
    The last minute of this episode really rubbed me the wrong way and made me question the point of this episode.

    The point was "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood". Wouldn't make any sense to name the chapter "execution of Guybrush" if he wouldn't die, wouldn't it? :p
  • edited October 2009
    Honestly, I'm surprised at you people. I was shocked and scared when Morgan died. Then Guybrush did too and I was quite relieved, because what with the whole "immortality" thing going on in the game already, the hints the Voodoo lady drops about things being more complicated than they seem, and, well, the whole "protagonist death" thing, it became pretty clear what's going to happen. Well, more or less.

    They're not gonna stay dead. I mean, duh, anyone?

    Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of afterlife make an appearance.
  • edited October 2009
    Maratanos wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm surprised at you people. I was shocked and scared when Morgan died. Then Guybrush did too and I was quite relieved, because what with the whole "immortality" thing going on in the game already, the hints the Voodoo lady drops about things being more complicated than they seem, and, well, the whole "protagonist death" thing, it became pretty clear what's going to happen. Well, more or less.

    They're not gonna stay dead. I mean, duh, anyone?

    Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of afterlife make an appearance.

    Could end like Monkey Island 2.
  • edited October 2009
    ...and thus Guybrush finally wakes up from the fall in Monkey Island 2, realising it was all a dream and uncover the real Big Whoop. That's part five. Cue Ron Gilbert's Monkey Island 3. A big budget adventure game published by LucasArts, developed by Ron Gilbert (story and characters) and Telltale Games. :D

    Seriously though, it was an utterly fantastic episode, and I can't wait to see what happens next. Also, I guess the Voodoo Lady's true role was the big and shocking revelation?
  • edited October 2009
    StarEye wrote: »
    ...and thus Guybrush finally wakes up from the fall in Monkey Island 2, realising it was all a dream and uncover the real Big Whoop. That's part five. Cue Ron Gilbert's Monkey Island 3. A big budget adventure game published by LucasArts, developed by Ron Gilbert (story and characters) and Telltale Games. :D

    Seriously though, it was an utterly fantastic episode, and I can't wait to see what happens next. Also, I guess the Voodoo Lady's true role was the big and shocking revelation?

    They'll pull off her mask to reveal her true identity: Kenny from the lemonade stand in Monkey Island 3.
  • edited October 2009
    Well of the top of my head

    - The hand escaped and hit under a rock (safe from voodo sucking winds) and is still full of "jui de vivre" (or how ever that is spelled/pronunced)

    - The next episode is titlede Rise of the pirate god, and while i assume it's an evil bad ass god, it could turn out to be a good & mighty pirate god.

    - The Voodo lady might still have a plan with guybrush, mastery over life and death shouldn't be beyond her.

    - Morgan vanished without a real farewell, which implies she's not dead after all (watch enough hollywood movies and you'll notice this disturbing trend) so whatever took her, could be comeing for Guybrush.

    - Guybrush is dead!!! so what? Escapeing from the underworld has been done by far less inventive people ;)

    - Guybrush is practically a licence to print money, no sane company would throw him away. :)
  • edited October 2009
    If LeChuck can come back in any form imaginable, so can Guybrush. What tells me we'll see Murray again in the final chapter.
  • edited October 2009
    Nobody can seriously believe that
    Guybrush stays dead. It´s a plot-twist to build heat for the finale, but like in a TV show: in the end, everything returns to normal. Morgan obviously is alive, and so will Guybrush be. Thank the marquise for his juice de vie! :)
  • edited October 2009
    caenicus, seriously? I was baffled and awed when it struck to me, they dared to do it!
    This was very nice plot twist imo, the only thing that would suck was if he stayed dead.
  • edited October 2009
    Flames? That was an awesome ending! I'm really looking forward to the finale now!

    And I was getting kind of annoyed with the series by episode 3.
    Fleace wrote: »
    The hand escaped and hit under a rock (safe from voodo sucking winds) and is still full of "jui de vivre" (or how ever that is spelled/pronunced)

    "Jus de Vie". "Juice of life".
  • edited October 2009
    AUGH! I typed up a post saying that Guybrush would go to hell for all the crimes he committed then walk backwards through Big Whoop, and I typed an incredibly long list of his crimes to go with it, and when I clicked "post", I got a blank page to go with it. And it was really a marvelous list of atrocities. No way am I going to try and remember it, but some of my favorites were the long lists of identities he's stolen (Mrs. Brinestoop, Captain Blondebeard, Wonton Goodsoup, Tofu Head the vegetarian cannibal, Captain LeChimp, Guybrush Q. Threepwood, the Voodoo Lady, and Jethro VanGoughderfassenson) and the contests he's cheated in (poker, drinking, diving, caber toss, spitting, pepper licking, mechanical manatee riding, and banjo duel).
  • edited October 2009
    I'm just kind of confused. It's like they did the bare minimum needed to create some dramatic tension, and I don't feel like it came off well. It's really hard for me to suspend my disbelief about Guybrush's or even Morgan's death when the game goes out of its way to deliver each with a gaudy wink.
  • edited October 2009
    AUGH! I typed up a post saying that Guybrush would go to hell for all the crimes he committed then walk backwards through Big Whoop, and I typed an incredibly long list of his crimes to go with it, and when I clicked "post", I got a blank page to go with it. And it was really a marvelous list of atrocities. No way am I going to try and remember it, but some of my favorites were the long lists of identities he's stolen (Mrs. Brinestoop, Captain Blondebeard, Wonton Goodsoup, Tofu Head the vegetarian cannibal, Captain LeChimp, Guybrush Q. Threepwood, the Voodoo Lady, and Jethro VanGoughderfassenson) and the contests he's cheated in (poker, drinking, diving, caber toss, spitting, pepper licking, mechanical manatee riding, and banjo duel).

    I made that list in anopther thread too,though it's probably incomplete: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=214690&postcount=30
  • edited October 2009
    Onkel wrote: »
    caenicus, seriously? I was baffled and awed when it struck to me, they dared to do it!
    This was very nice plot twist imo, the only thing that would suck was if he stayed dead.

    I'm still wrestling with my mixed feelings.
  • edited October 2009
    108 Stars wrote: »
    Nobody can seriously believe that
    Guybrush stays dead.

    right.
    You cannot kill your messiah.
    Not even Michael Bay would do such a thing.
  • edited October 2009
    Someone said something in here that they wouldn't be surprised if the afterlife comes into play in the next episode... Someone else was wondering how you could take control of Guybrush...(btw, I only read the firs. Page, it's my attention span, so forgive me if this has already been pointed out) 5th chapter is called Rise of the Pirate God. Afterlife? Dead Guybrush? Make sense? At least I hope I'm right!
  • edited October 2009
    Okay, I've sorted things out a little bit.
    It's not that Guysbrush is dead, and inevitably going to return to the living in Chapter 5
    that I'm upset with. What bothers me is that it's stupid.
    If Guybrush and Morgan can do it, why is death even a problem for any other character in the game? Why even have swords? Why even be pirates? Why make a game?
    Dialogue, art, and music aside, they're not being very creative here.
  • edited October 2009
    The Highway - you are right - check the Nintendo article in another thread on this forum.
  • edited October 2009
    caenicus wrote: »
    What bothers me is that it's stupid.
    If Guybrush and Morgan can do it, why is death even a problem for any other character in the game? Why even have swords? Why even be pirates? Why make a game?
    Dialogue, art, and music aside, they're not being very creative here.

    Death has never been an issue for LeChuck before. If anything, it's more of the status quo.
  • edited October 2009
    doggans wrote: »
    Death has never been an issue for LeChuck before. If anything, it's more of the status quo.

    Partially true. But with Moneky Island 2 in mind, they never really explained what happened between Monkey Island 2 and Curse of Monkey Island. Don't get me wrong, I love Curse of Monkey Island, but it's like every following game forgot the ending of Monkey Island 2. They never explained how things continued from there. Am I missing something?
  • edited October 2009
    Guybrush and Morgan must fight their way out of the fiery depths of PIRATE HELL!... or kindly ask the Pirate God of heaven to send them back to Earth.
  • edited October 2009
    Guybrush and Morgan must fight their way out of the fiery depths of PIRATE HELL!... or kindly ask the Pirate God of heaven to send them back to Earth.

    lol
  • edited October 2009
    caenicus wrote: »
    But with Moneky Island 2 in mind, they never really explained what happened between Monkey Island 2 and Curse of Monkey Island. Don't get me wrong, I love Curse of Monkey Island, but it's like every following game forgot the ending of Monkey Island 2. They never explained how things continued from there. Am I missing something?

    Really? Most people complain that they OVER-explain it.
    MI2 ends with Elaine suggesting that LeChuck has cast a spell on Guybrush to make him think that they're young brothers at a theme park. CMI reveals that LeChuck actually BUILT this theme park, and Guybrush managed to escape. LeChuck even casts the SAME spell on him again toward the end of CMI, although this time Guybrush is aware of it.
  • edited October 2009
    caenicus wrote: »
    Okay, I've sorted things out a little bit.
    It's not that Guysbrush is dead, and inevitably going to return to the living in Chapter 5
    that I'm upset with. What bothers me is that it's stupid.
    If Guybrush and Morgan can do it, why is death even a problem for any other character in the game? Why even have swords? Why even be pirates? Why make a game?
    Dialogue, art, and music aside, they're not being very creative here.
    Well, Guybrush has the Voodoo Lady on his side (probably?), so he has a bit of an advantage when it comes to the death-defying stuff. :p
  • edited October 2009
    I expect the coming back alive wouldn't be some sort of deus ex machina or some lame thing. I even am beginning to think that bringing back Guybrush will come at a severe cost, something unforseen. Or, perhaps that moment wasn't his time.

    It could also be that the rock pirate gods forsee the destruction of the world as we know it, and grant Guybrush one last time on Earth to undo the wrong, to make it right. Afterwards Guybrush expects to go back to the land of the dead, only to be given one more time on Earth.
  • edited October 2009
    doggans wrote: »
    Really? Most people complain that they OVER-explain it.
    MI2 ends with Elaine suggesting that LeChuck has cast a spell on Guybrush to make him think that they're young brothers at a theme park. CMI reveals that LeChuck actually BUILT this theme park, and Guybrush managed to escape. LeChuck even casts the SAME spell on him again toward the end of CMI, although this time Guybrush is aware of it.

    ... Damn. I for whatever reason completely forgot about that. :p

    Okay, so Escape From Monkey Island was the only one that's entirely pointless to the series now.
  • edited October 2009
    GaryCXJk wrote: »
    I expect the coming back alive wouldn't be some sort of deus ex machina or some lame thing. I even am beginning to think that bringing back Guybrush will come at a severe cost, something unforseen. Or, perhaps that moment wasn't his time.

    It could also be that the rock pirate gods forsee the destruction of the world as we know it, and grant Guybrush one last time on Earth to undo the wrong, to make it right. Afterwards Guybrush expects to go back to the land of the dead, only to be given one more time on Earth.

    Brutal Legend tie-in maybe? :p

    Totally kidding.
  • edited October 2009
    hahaha you people really think
    there is a slight possibility that Guybrush will stay dead? LOL

    Guybrush IS monkey island :p
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