Bosun Krebbs = Kate Capsize? (minor spoilers)

edited November 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
This might be completely daft, but hear me out at least. Feel free to cut this theory to shreds if you notice anything that doesn't fit.
Unless it's the spelling of Kathryn. I think that's it, but I'm not certain. I know of so many different Kathryns and Cathrines and Katherines and so on that they all blend together. :rolleyes:

I think Bosun Krebbs is a stealth cameo from Kate Capsize.

She gives her name in Club 41 as "Kathryn C Krebbs", and as far as I remember, she is only referred to as "Kathryn" or "Bosun Krebbs" in the trial, but the credits list her as "Kathryn 'Kate' Krebbs". Was she ever called "Kate" in the game? I don't recall...
It's humorously revealed at Club 41 that our Guybrush Ulysses Threepwood isn't her Guybrush Q Threepwood, but this may not be entirely true. Perhaps it's like this: our Guybrush meets Capsize, charters her boat, etc, and they go their separate ways.
Later, unknown to us, the other Guybrush meets Capsize, and does all those terrible things to her. At some point, he destroys her reputation, and she decides to start a new life as Krebbs. Much later, she ends up on Flotsam, and hears about the trial, so she decides to join in and get her revenge.

She could easily dye and cut her hair, so that wouldn't be a problem.
And if she continued to have trouble with Guybrush Q Threepwood after changing her identity, that would explain why she doesn't remind our Guybrush that she was originally Capsize - she thinks he already knows. And after the reveal, it doesn't matter, because she would think they've never met before Flotsam.


There it is, go for it!
Telltale Staff: if I'm right, do I get a prize? :)
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  • edited October 2009
    I was actually thinking the exact same thing during the game! I think it may just be a small joke though, but then again...
  • edited October 2009
    In Monkey island 2 there was a character called kate Capsize and she wasn't blonde...
    Also, in the game the blonde girl said that she seeked revenge because of Guybrush Q. Threepwood and the name of our hero is Guybrush ULYSSES threepwood... no Q in his name...

    It's just not the right guybrush she's after so its not Kate...
  • edited October 2009
    Guimero, did you actually read my post, or just the title?
  • edited October 2009
    I think they were deliberately playing with our expectations on this one - throwing in a female pirate called "Catherine" who wanted revenge on Guybrush for leaving her to rot in prison, so we'd all think she was Kate Capsize...

    ...then it turns out that she wasn't, and it was all a misunderstanding. So yeah, I'm reasonably certain that they're two entirely different people, and Telltale are just messing with us. ;)
  • edited October 2009
    Ah, but that's just it: he didn't leave her to rot. He busted her out after he framed her. Thus, she wouldn't mention it to him at the Club, it's not on her list of things hid did to her!
  • edited October 2009
    Sorry if I'm off topic, but where did Guybrush's second name "Ulysses" come out?
  • edited October 2009
    Sorry if I'm off topic, but where did Guybrush's second name "Ulysses" come out?

    EfMI.

    BTW, isn't this Krebb's gal backstory based on Designer for a Day contest winner entry?
  • edited October 2009
    Aise wrote: »
    Sorry if I'm off topic, but where did Guybrush's second name "Ulysses" come out?

    Probably named after the Greek Myth :p
  • edited October 2009
    I believe his middle name is mentioned in the fourth game

    aaaAAAnnD

    Nah its not her... TTG was playing a little trick on us... making us think it could be her until we find out she is after a different Guybrush.
  • edited October 2009
    I had exactly the same thoughts at the time. Well done by TT.
  • edited October 2009
    The very thing I thought when I heard about a second Guybrush Threepwood was "hey, they're trying to find a way to have Ron Gilbert make his own version of Monkey Island 3". See, the Big Whoop was a ticket to another dimension, so by finding Big Whoop, a second reality was suddenly created, and from there on, the original Guybrush became two different Guybrush'es. Thus two storylines were created, and so far we've only heard the CMI-Tales version. Be sure, we'll see a Monkey Island 3 someday, with Guybrush Q Threepwood as the main character (he's still the same one, just in a different reality).
  • edited October 2009
    I originally thought that Krebbs might be Captain Capsize when she'd mentioned that Guybrush was responsible for getting her stuck in jail. Except that the jail mentioned was not on Phatt Island which is where Capsize's incarceration occurred. Plus all that other stuff she mentioned didn't sound anything like what we've seen Guybrush go through.

    Besides which, how did she wind up being demoted from Captain to a mere Bosun? Surely her glass bottomed boat business was lucrative enough that she could afford another ship if the original was sunk?
  • edited October 2009
    Ah but the miracle glassblower had got stuck on Flotsam :p
  • edited October 2009
    I really enjoyed Bosun Kathryn Krebbs :)

    Well done!
  • edited October 2009
    Yeah its great there are not enough female extras in these games.
  • edited October 2009
    I gotta say though... I pity the SECOND person out there to be named Guybrush Threepwood.
  • edited October 2009
    Yeah I saw it more as a shout-out to Capsize by having this character be a sort of doppelganger to her just as Guybrush apparently has his own doppelganger running around.
  • edited October 2009
    PecanBlue wrote: »
    Yeah I saw it more as a shout-out to Capsize by having this character be a sort of doppelganger to her just as Guybrush apparently has his own doppelganger running around.

    It would actually be cool if we met this mysterious Guybrush Q Threepwood eventually. Maybe in Chapter 5, or in future seasons.
  • edited October 2009
    Nachtnebel wrote: »
    I gotta say though... I pity the SECOND person out there to be named Guybrush Threepwood.

    Don't pity him. From what Krebbs said, he seems like a bit of a jerk.
  • edited October 2009
    Guinea wrote: »
    It would actually be cool if we met this mysterious Guybrush Q Threepwood eventually. Maybe in Chapter 5, or in future seasons.
    ...maybe Guybrush Q Threepwood is a second Guybrush, born of the temporal paradox Guybrush encountered in EfMI. The Q is supposedly there to tell him apart from his temporal twin, kinda like Riker's and Kirk's accidental twins who also picked up a middle name for the sake of telling them apart.
  • edited October 2009
    sorry i dont see it. but that dosent mean im right.
  • edited October 2009
    I think they were deliberately playing with our expectations on this one - throwing in a female pirate called "Catherine" who wanted revenge on Guybrush for leaving her to rot in prison, so we'd all think she was Kate Capsize...

    ...then it turns out that she wasn't, and it was all a misunderstanding. So yeah, I'm reasonably certain that they're two entirely different people, and Telltale are just messing with us. ;)

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a joke to confuse us.
  • edited October 2009
    I also saw the relation to Kate.
    and as for a second Guybrush? Love nachtnebel's theory. I can just imagine the paradox-clone turning up to carry on the story in chapter 5. I know I sure as hell caused plenty of temporal paradoxes (is that even the right plural term??) on my first playthrough of Escape.
  • edited October 2009
    Flah wrote: »
    I originally thought that Krebbs might be Captain Capsize when she'd mentioned that Guybrush was responsible for getting her stuck in jail. Except that the jail mentioned was not on Phatt Island which is where Capsize's incarceration occurred. Plus all that other stuff she mentioned didn't sound anything like what we've seen Guybrush go through.

    Guybrush U also broke her out of Phatt's jail, so she shouldn't hold a grudge for that. She doesn't think it's worth mentioning. She could easily have been imprisoned twice, once by our Guybrush (which she forgives), and once or more by Guybrush Q. (which she doesn't forgive, because he didn't go back for her.)
    Besides which, how did she wind up being demoted from Captain to a mere Bosun? Surely her glass bottomed boat business was lucrative enough that she could afford another ship if the original was sunk?

    But that's part of my point. She is furious. Guybrush Q has ruined her to the point where she had to start from square one. Perhaps when she was found guilty of GQT's crimes, all of her possessions were sold off at Ye Bay! :p
  • edited October 2009
    MI2's Katherine was a Captain, not a mere Bosun, plus she was fairly friendly, while Krebs is mean sea-wench, but maybe it's hard times that did that to her.
  • edited October 2009
    Fronzel wrote: »
    MI2's Katherine was a Captain, not a mere Bosun, plus she was fairly friendly, while Krebs is mean sea-wench, but maybe it's hard times that did that to her.

    See above.
  • edited October 2009
    Actually, we're going to find out in Episode 5 that Kathryn's real last name is Janeway and Guybrush's name is just "Q"... :p
  • edited October 2009
    It didn't occur to me until the point where she said "You sunk my ship and left me in jail", then I went "HOLY SHIT IT'S KATE CAPSIZE!", until she went on about events that never occured and then Guybrush said "I don't remember doing any of this to you".
    I was kind of disappointed :(
  • edited October 2009
    Fronzel wrote: »
    MI2's Katherine was a Captain, not a mere Bosun, plus she was fairly friendly, while Krebs is mean sea-wench, but maybe it's hard times that did that to her.

    She isn't overly friendly when Guybrush tries to use some pick up lines on her :p
  • edited October 2009
    maybe she just needs a hug?
  • edited October 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    maybe she just needs a hug?
    I guess that depends on whether you need a knife in your intestines or not... *ouch*
  • edited November 2009
    I was actually thinking the exact same thing during the game! I think it may just be a small joke though, but then again...

    what he said! literally!
  • edited November 2009
    It would be funny if the other "Guybrush" was actually Gorbush Seepgood Mighty Flooring Inspector.... but everyone kept calling him Guybrush.
  • edited November 2009
    Skuld wrote: »
    It didn't occur to me until the point where she said "You sunk my ship and left me in jail", then I went "HOLY SHIT IT'S KATE CAPSIZE!"
    Wait, Kate's ship wasn't sunk in MI2, was it?
  • edited November 2009
    It's clear that Guybrush has the hots for her? (lame pickup lines)

    (and sadly they used the same voice actor as Voodoo Lady :( )
  • edited November 2009
    I thought that as well when they started going on about the ship sinking and the jail, but then it wasn't.

    I think Telltale was having a joke with us.
  • jmmjmm
    edited November 2009
    Maybe we should ask Brendan Ferguson. Or better yet Brendan Q. Ferguson
  • edited November 2009
    Wait, Doesn't she mention something about her husband. Maybe she changed her name to Krebbs because she got married. Also, remember that she was cursed with the pox, she may actually be friendly if not for that large detail.
  • edited November 2009
    Nachtnebel wrote: »
    ...maybe Guybrush Q Threepwood is a second Guybrush, born of the temporal paradox Guybrush encountered in EfMI. The Q is supposedly there to tell him apart from his temporal twin, kinda like Riker's and Kirk's accidental twins who also picked up a middle name for the sake of telling them apart.

    I'm pretty sure we know what he'll look like; a blonde waitress described him in detail in the fourth monkey island game! :D
  • edited November 2009
    Yeah. She didn't look much like a pale redhead though...
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