The ending, honestly, IS satisfying, but it felt a little... Well, lazy. I mean first of all there's that
final puzzle,
which instead of allowing my friend and I to actually think on it, my first thought was
"gee, what haven't we used yet for the entirety of this series?" So I'm like "the ring, right?" within literally less than ten seconds, and my friend's like "yup." And that's it, solved. To be fair it is short with very little things involved, but I can't help get that feeling where it's like "oops, we can't think of anything better for the ring, let's make it a completely obvious plot element item, where it just casually returns you to the Screaming Narwhal as a normal person specifically for some reason, with both Elaine and Winslow expecting you, as if they knew the ring would have the luxury option of making it very convenient for you."
Another thing that annoyed me was
Elaine not really explaining properly what was going on. I mean, supposedly she was working with LeChuck the whole time, and while I get that to make her not look completely stupid she was supposedly being charmed by his voodoo belt thing into trusting him, but she said she "pretended to get captured" so I am assuming she was working with him even from the very start before he turns human. So what is going on here? Maybe I'm dumb and can't pick up the plot by its pieces, but seriously? Was she really dumb enough to work with him even before being charmed and not expect him to do anything to Guybrush? What, did she make a deal with LeChuck to marry him if he helped her and that's when she formed the whole plan with the wedding ring? Maybe I'm just confused here.
As for the thingy after the credits, I'm all for
leaving Voodoo Lady's explanation a mystery and up to interpretation, or otherwise leaving it as a sequel hook, so I have no problem with that. My problem was, though, with Morgan. After all those emotional scenes, (which the only one I really cared for was her whole speech about Guybrush being a sissy, since that's the only one where she actually seemed like a tough, understanding pirate hunter and not some confused/depressed fangirl) we're just going to have her be all careless in the end? I mean, I guess maybe she doesn't know how sketchy Voodoo Lady is, but it kind of looked like she was handing remnants of LeChuck or something to her, thus making it seem like she didn't really help beat him for Guybrush, just for her own benefit on getting back to the real world. Even as someone who doesn't particularly care for Morgan, it really rubbed me the wrong way. But once again, maybe I'm just not understanding things properly.
On its good points,
man was that final battle awesome. It got a bit annoying at times when I knew what to do but couldn't do it properly and then having LeChuck throw me around the place forever until getting back to where I was, but I didn't mind so much.
Guybrush and Elaine were really cute. My two married friends enjoyed playing that final sequence with each other very much, saying that's exactly how they would talk to each other if they were trying to destroy evil together. (both of them hate chocolate/pineapple cake too) It's also really nice we get to hear one of them finally say "I love you" in spoken dialogue. Even when they're a married couple and you know they've probably said it a lot of times off-screen it's still somehow very heartwarming! Also, when my friend and I were playing the ending, in the last choice of dialogue when we both read that "you'll always be the shiver in my timbers" I was like "what?" And it took us three seconds to register what we just read and started cracking up. It was just a silly line! (and of course that's the one we picked, though if there was any option to make Elaine mad we so would have done it [because mad Elaine is funny])
We were also very happy Winslow stayed for the ending as a crew member!
I'm sad Guybrush didn't get to keep the hook, but I don't mind so much. (I'm sure a hook would be very inconvenient for his every day life, sword fighting, or sexy times anyway.) Though I'm a little concerned about him losing his own wedding ring, hahaha.
Anyway those are my thoughts on the ending. I'll probably write more about the overall game in other threads later.
EDIT: Oh and I forgot to praise the funny cop-out sponge joke. Even being spanish myself, the pronunciation never really bothered me because I thought it was on purpose so it just always made me laugh.
I thought the voodoo lady mentioned she would be returned to her physical self. The ghots pirate hunter was referring to the fact that she killed the Ghost of Mighty pirate lechuck,or so i thought
If I remember right,
she only said that she would be allowed to return to the land of the living, and Morgan was still a ghost when she walked off.
About the Club 41 door vs the treasure chest. I noticed that Guybrush was semi-transparent from his trousers upwards, so perhaps he could actually use his legs & feet (to stand, to use the raft, to walk) but not use his arms, hands or head (apart from talking) This would effectively allow him to put his head into the treasure chest, but prevent him from actually leaving Club 41.
Although that's a bit farfetched.
Nope, there's a problem with this one, and that problem is when Guybrush uses his arms to climb onto the raft when getting out of the ocean.
Guybrush can be an idiot from time to time, but I'm more inclined to call him "dolt" or "klutz".
Considering all the times he tried things that wouldn't work, he should have tried opening the door or crossing through it. His preemptive comment felt a bit out of character.
Well you see the possessed hand at the end of the credits along with some kind of unholy LeChuck goo... But the thing that bugged me was the whole thing about the ring. Suddenly he is just back and everything is well? And WHY were the voices still all echoed as if they were still in the underworld!?!?!?
Elaine not really explaining properly what was going on. I mean, supposedly she was working with LeChuck the whole time, and while I get that to make her not look completely stupid she was supposedly being charmed by his voodoo belt thing into trusting him, but she said she "pretended to get captured" so I am assuming she was working with him even from the very start before he turns human. So what is going on here? Maybe I'm dumb and can't pick up the plot by its pieces, but seriously? Was she really dumb enough to work with him even before being charmed and not expect him to do anything to Guybrush? What, did she make a deal with LeChuck to marry him if he helped her and that's when she formed the whole plan with the wedding ring? Maybe I'm just confused here.
Obviously, he charmed her with that belt from the very beginning. Of course, he didn't have the belt buckle before he turned human, so he told Elaine that he'd have it later and she went along with it because she was charmed by the belt buckle that he didn't have.
It obvious why Morgan has to become a villain. If she doesn't what point is there in Elaine and Guybrush's Marriage? :mad:
You can give them both justice. Two things would have been necessary.
A flashback during Morgan's encouragement. Give Guybrush's 180 a reason. And Elaine feeling both grateful and lucky Guybrush returned to life. (Even those who preferred Morgan would have understood)
In T&E what was so good was Elaine was not taking her relationship for granted. She may have been poxed but honestly, she was far more likeable then.
In RoPG Elaine was once again taking Guybrush and her relationship for granted and she nearly lost it.
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The ending, honestly, IS satisfying, but it felt a little... Well, lazy. I mean first of all there's that
Another thing that annoyed me was
As for the thingy after the credits, I'm all for
On its good points,
Guybrush and Elaine were really cute. My two married friends enjoyed playing that final sequence with each other very much, saying that's exactly how they would talk to each other if they were trying to destroy evil together. (both of them hate chocolate/pineapple cake too) It's also really nice we get to hear one of them finally say "I love you" in spoken dialogue. Even when they're a married couple and you know they've probably said it a lot of times off-screen it's still somehow very heartwarming! Also, when my friend and I were playing the ending, in the last choice of dialogue when we both read that "you'll always be the shiver in my timbers" I was like "what?" And it took us three seconds to register what we just read and started cracking up. It was just a silly line! (and of course that's the one we picked, though if there was any option to make Elaine mad we so would have done it [because mad Elaine is funny])
We were also very happy Winslow stayed for the ending as a crew member!
I'm sad Guybrush didn't get to keep the hook, but I don't mind so much. (I'm sure a hook would be very inconvenient for his every day life, sword fighting, or sexy times anyway.) Though I'm a little concerned about him losing his own wedding ring, hahaha.
Anyway those are my thoughts on the ending. I'll probably write more about the overall game in other threads later.
EDIT: Oh and I forgot to praise the funny cop-out sponge joke. Even being spanish myself, the pronunciation never really bothered me because I thought it was on purpose so it just always made me laugh.
If I remember right,
Nope, there's a problem with this one, and that problem is when Guybrush uses his arms to climb onto the raft when getting out of the ocean.
For those who skipped the credits
This
Does anyone even use the word "dolt" anymore?
You can give them both justice. Two things would have been necessary.
A flashback during Morgan's encouragement. Give Guybrush's 180 a reason. And Elaine feeling both grateful and lucky Guybrush returned to life. (Even those who preferred Morgan would have understood)
In T&E what was so good was Elaine was not taking her relationship for granted. She may have been poxed but honestly, she was far more likeable then.
In RoPG Elaine was once again taking Guybrush and her relationship for granted and she nearly lost it.
Yes. I meant the Guybrush-related ending. The after-credits part was only good insofar that it