Ch.5 ending: the ring? (Spoilers!)
There's one thing puzzling me that I can't figure out, even after reading in these forums:
WHY exactly is
It was the first thing in your inventory, so the first thing i tried, so i got it accidentally right and was a bit too surprised to pay attention.
Can someone please explain?
WHY exactly is
the ring the answer to the final puzzle: an anchor, courage, guide, and... uh something-something..
??It was the first thing in your inventory, so the first thing i tried, so i got it accidentally right and was a bit too surprised to pay attention.
Can someone please explain?
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Granted, it wasn't exactly in, but it's close.
[Also, just finished the game! Woopie!]
Something like:
"It represents a pure, true love. A power which is stronger than anything else."
A strange choice from the devs in my opinion, seems a bit rushed...
(otherwise the series were _awesome_ don't get me wrong, just the ending... was a bit... meh)
Yeah, that's right (good memory!) but imho; the developers shouldn't have the explanation of thís game be dependant on your memory and understanding of the previous games.
Do you mean the monkey? That joke doesn't even sense neither in italian, and infact I don't understand yet the real sense behind that puzzle.
He view it as a symbol of his love obviously, and was led on his quest for Elaine to cure her of the pox (guide).
Whenever he was down it would remind him of why he was doing it (anchor) and prompt him to keep going in the face of adversity (courage).
He sacrificed his one shred of life to save Elaine and so the ring also represented that (sacrifice). Also, I would say that he was sacrificing the ring by using it at the crossroads, but you then give it back to her so I guess not.
Monkey wrench is a "Chiave inglese", so you use the monkey as a wrench... This puzzle was impossible without a guide
Or, considering Guybrush comes back alive fully, it was the REAL solution for the spell, showing that it only works for those truely in love, the other way is just a cheap work around which is why you're back as a ghost/corpse, etc.
When I first completed it I didn't remember exactly all the ingredients/clues to the first spell so I was a little confused as to why the ring worked.
He did mention about those, in one sentence that went too fast.
See now you explained it to me, unlike the game
Then again I can also see this as something that doesn't need to be spoon fed to the player.
But I for one didn't have that information about the symbols of marriage in my head so thats probably why I didn't get it. This sort of thing varies from person to person.
well.... that and the disturbing art.
People say marriage is a symbol of a confirmation of ones love towards each other, as if it was a ship that was made stationary by an anchor. In fact, the word anchor has also the meaning of something that is held stationary, be it a car, a boat, or even something abstract like friendship or just someone who was always there for you. For Guybrush, holding on to the ring was his anchor to keep on going, no matter what.
Actually committing yourself to such a relationship requires courage, but aside from that it also gives you the courage to do things you never thought were possible. It has driven Guybrush to do stuff he normally wouldn't do.
People often see their loved ones as a guidance to happiness. It's a thriving force that brings us where we need to be, in this case, it brought Guybrush to Elaine.
And as people say, to maintain a relationship, you don't just take, you also have to give. It's about being able to make sacrifices. You can't keep on doing the things you want just because you want to be free, or else you might miss your moments of happiness with your one true love. But it's also about the willingness to make sacrifices. Here, Guybrush is willing to give up his existence in the physical world to allow everybody to live a normal life.
Careful, this is psycho:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlhZCDlEmh0
Really? I thought it was classic Monkey Island, but reversed.
Often, you make a recipe at one point in the game, and later on you have to do a hastily-crafted version of the same recipe using wordplay for replacement items. In this case, however, the replacement recipe came first, and the true solution was revealed at the end.
4. a strip of paper or other material serving as a label: a cigar band. (w.r.t. the initial spell and placing them inside the mark (or label) at the centre of the crossroads)
and
6. to unite; confederate (often fol. by together): They banded together to oust the chairman. (from band 1)
5. a plain or simply styled ring, without mounted gems or the like: a thin gold band on his finger. (w.r.t. the final solution). (from band 2) (Yes there is a giant rock on the wedding ring - but substitutions allowed in voodoo spells no?)
How would that work to our multi-lingual friends?
It's too uncomplicated, that's kind of what I'm saying. It was too much of a "clap if you believe in fairies" moment.
What else could one possibly connect to things like love and marriage, taking into account what the Monkey-Island-Universe and the majority of any modern media is like?
I don't see why you shouldn't get it immediately, even less after thinking about it.
It takes courage to become married, marriage is a tie, sacrifices must be made to ensure your loved one is happy, and you can go to them for guidance. The ring symbolised all of these things.
And MAGIC!
I don't know that Elaine knew that the ring would be part of a voodoo spell, she just had faith in the idea that a symbol of love was an important thing for Guybrush to hold with him all the time. And it proved to be an important thing.
I think this ties into the fact that Elaine, according to the Voodoo lady 'doesn't trust voodoo'. As I argued in the other thread, the Voodoo lady believes in fate and that everything is part of a larger game... and I think what she means is Elaine doesn't, she believes in free will and the individual---and also believes that love is important to that. While the Voodoo lady might think that Elaine and Guybrush being in love are them just playing roles, according to the cards... Elaine thinks its something much more than that, and that the power of love cant be explained by voodoo.
Either that , or she knew that was how LeChuck came back.. and figured at one point LeChuck would try to kill Guybrush.
I found this:
http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14102
to be very accurate. To me it all made sense.
And thanks to others for this thread. It makes a lot more sense to think that Elaine knew that her ring would bring Guybrush back to the world of the living.
After all, it had the power to bring her back to life, sort of.