I don't know why, but if you pay attention, you realize that all those who are there, are in fact, Lechuck's victim.
So Desinge isn't one of them.
The sword fighter, thief, and treasure hunter were the 3 ones who defeated Human Lechuck on spinner cay. It is revealed he came back for them as a demon zombie and slaughter them.
Pyrite parrot aren't living creatures and are somehow, a curse for Guybrush (it's the only treasure he can get, while the treasure hunter finds hundreds of pieces of gold). It's not related to the crossroads.
Then I don't know why but we can see the crossroads as a purgatory. Thus sending only recent Lechuck's victims, cauz we see with Morgan that they can replace each other.
Like, you find the biggest treasure : you become the treasure hunter. you defeat the swordmaster you take his place... etc...
It's the most logicial since there were only 4 people, all Lechuck's victim, and we do see a shift (between swordy and morgan)
Could also be that DeSinge just took his final rest quicker than other people. Science was what is important to him in life, and you cant take that with you in death, as the crossroads are spiritual and dont fall under the realm of physical, he probably just moved on because he didn't have something keeping him there.
Technically, by MI logic, since Morgan has pirate in her professions name she'd qualify. By MI logic. De Singe didn't have anything piratey in his name he was a doctor. He didn't live by the sea.
Technically, by MI logic, since Morgan has pirate in her professions name she'd qualify. By MI logic. De Singe didn't have anything piratey in his name he was a doctor. He didn't live by the sea.
Not really. Monkey Island magic is flat-out stated to take note of slight semantic differences, a la the Pox of LeChuck not infecting Morgan because she was a Pirate Hunter.
Not really. Monkey Island magic is flat-out stated to take note of slight semantic differences, a la the Pox of LeChuck not infecting Morgan because she was a Pirate Hunter.
It is a semantic difference. I just think it works both ways. Besides I think in the MI world swordfighters who sail the seas are considered "pirates". Take Carla for instance.
Maybe Morgan just came into the Crossroads because of her swordfighting skills. Like, everyone who has something to do with one or more of the "three trials" (I just call them like that as a reference to SMI ), i.e. swordfighting, thievery or treasure huntery, qualifies for the Crossroads. DeSinge had nothing to do with any of this, so, no Crossroads for him.
Or she was there because
the Voodoo Lady was probably hiding out in the Crossroads and needed Morgan, so she arranged for her to get there
It is a semantic difference. I just think it works both ways. Besides I think in the MI world swordfighters who sail the seas are considered "pirates". Take Carla for instance.
I dunno, it seems a good deal more likely to me that the Crossroads is generally the afterlife for the Monkey Island universe as a whole, or at least for privateers, adventurers, thieves, swordfighters and treasure hunters, that sort of thing. Is it ever stated that it's a "pirate" afterlife?
I dunno, it seems a good deal more likely to me that the Crossroads is generally the afterlife for the Monkey Island universe as a whole, or at least for privateers, adventurers, thieves, swordfighters and treasure hunters, that sort of thing. Is it ever stated that it's a "pirate" afterlife?
No, and hey the pyrite parrot went there. So you're probably right.
Not really. Monkey Island magic is flat-out stated to take note of slight semantic differences, a la the Pox of LeChuck not infecting Morgan because she was a Pirate Hunter.
Or Morgan, full of regret for betraying Guybrush, tried to avenge him, etc, going against the rules of being a Pirate Hunter (all for the money, baby), and become thus a Pirate.
yeah im guessing he just passed. i was really suprised that we didnt see davey tho. hearing about him being killed seemed a bit random( same with noogie). i thought him dieing was being set up for davey to be in chapter 5
Yes.
While giving Guybrush her "save Elaine" speech, Morgan herself says something like "Oh good, now you can spend a pathetic eternity in pirate afterlife." I'm not sure if that's exactly what she said, but I'm almost positive she said "pirate afterlife".
Here's another option: the Voodoo Lady may have "redirected" Morgan's spirit, with the intention of using her for her own purposes (send a pirate hunter's spirit to the pirate afterlife to get what you want -- i.e. LeChuck's essence).
It looks to me as if it was set up that we would meet more dead characters, but it was changed somewhere along the line. Like, Noogie was apparently killed, and David Nipperkin died in the fire. But, their sacrifice was in vain, as the only ones who did appear was characters who we never even knew were dead.
it is propably just the "pirate crossroads" and there are many other crossroads for all kind of people... so the "pirate crossroad" is just for thievery, swordmastery and treauser hunter---y... and de Singe may be in the "science crossroads" for sciencer---y and... idontknowery ... who knows where stan would land, if he would die? :eek:
I wonder the crossroads is THE afterlife, or a passage or a break place for pirates before going to the actual heaven or hell (or whatever after there). Since both Guybrush and Morgan had their own shreds of life that makes them struggle to remain in the reality, their presence in crossroads may be a bit delayed.
Even if there are multiple proofs that there is nothing beyond crossroads, I guess I'll believe in what I said. Crossroads is just... too small and limited and boring-after-a-while for so many pirates.
You know there were alot of dead people who didn't appear there. Maybe he was too muchof a weakiling to figure out how to get out of his grave, or maybe he had already passed through.
What if the first island is a "common" island and the boatman delivers the recently deceased to their proper afterlife.
I know you can get back to the first island, but maybe is a place that looks the same (to the person), but is really a different place (and we are only seeing Guybrush's version)
LeChuck says he wants to open the crossroads to use its voodoo energy
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I think the crossroads have to do with voodoo, not necessarily pirates. DeSinge rejected the idea of voodoo, whereas every other MI character accepts it (maybe doesn't use it, but accepts it) as part of their lives.
I need to go back to Ep. 1 to actually hear what the Voodoo Lady specifically says about the crossroads, but I'm betting it has more to do with voodoo than with pirates. That would also explain why the Pyrite Parrot was there. It was created with voodoo.
I wonder the crossroads is THE afterlife, or a passage or a break place for pirates before going to the actual heaven or hell (or whatever after there). Since both Guybrush and Morgan had their own shreds of life that makes them struggle to remain in the reality, their presence in crossroads may be a bit delayed.
Even if there are multiple proofs that there is nothing beyond crossroads, I guess I'll believe in what I said. Crossroads is just... too small and limited and boring-after-a-while for so many pirates.
Morgan didn't have a Shred of Life, only Guybrush did.
I has idea. Lechuck killed just about everyone that showed up in the crossroads, including Morgan and Guybrush. Maybe something about Lechuck's voodoo-y evil had a thing to do with whether they went there or not.
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So Desinge isn't one of them.
The sword fighter, thief, and treasure hunter were the 3 ones who defeated Human Lechuck on spinner cay. It is revealed he came back for them as a demon zombie and slaughter them.
And also killed Morgan.
What about the pyrite parrot?
Then I don't know why but we can see the crossroads as a purgatory. Thus sending only recent Lechuck's victims, cauz we see with Morgan that they can replace each other.
Like, you find the biggest treasure : you become the treasure hunter. you defeat the swordmaster you take his place... etc...
It's the most logicial since there were only 4 people, all Lechuck's victim, and we do see a shift (between swordy and morgan)
EDIT:Also, with LeChuck's apparent killing spree, it isn't that strange you only come across people murdered by him.
Hehe... I can imagine a hundred tiny DeSinges attacking Guybrush a la the Lilliputians in Gulliver's Travels.
It is a semantic difference. I just think it works both ways. Besides I think in the MI world swordfighters who sail the seas are considered "pirates". Take Carla for instance.
Or she was there because
Just speculating.
No, and hey the pyrite parrot went there. So you're probably right.
Or Morgan, full of regret for betraying Guybrush, tried to avenge him, etc, going against the rules of being a Pirate Hunter (all for the money, baby), and become thus a Pirate.
Or something.
I like the thought that not only is the afterlife conscious, it's a horrible speller.
Yes.
While giving Guybrush her "save Elaine" speech, Morgan herself says something like "Oh good, now you can spend a pathetic eternity in pirate afterlife." I'm not sure if that's exactly what she said, but I'm almost positive she said "pirate afterlife".
Even if there are multiple proofs that there is nothing beyond crossroads, I guess I'll believe in what I said. Crossroads is just... too small and limited and boring-after-a-while for so many pirates.
I know you can get back to the first island, but maybe is a place that looks the same (to the person), but is really a different place (and we are only seeing Guybrush's version)
To get to the other side!
...wait... sorry, I got confused.
You're the only one who would LIKE to think that. Theres only so much of his whiney french accent i can take!
Speak for yourself!
I love everything about De Singe, apart from the fact that he's dead.
I was going through Ep. 5 again, and
I think the crossroads have to do with voodoo, not necessarily pirates. DeSinge rejected the idea of voodoo, whereas every other MI character accepts it (maybe doesn't use it, but accepts it) as part of their lives.
I need to go back to Ep. 1 to actually hear what the Voodoo Lady specifically says about the crossroads, but I'm betting it has more to do with voodoo than with pirates. That would also explain why the Pyrite Parrot was there. It was created with voodoo.
Now you've made me want to make a video of De Singe singing this-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsqy6U3g1LQ
Thanks, Mark. Now I'll never be able to sleep until the deed is done.