I mean mechanically (the battling, the sphere grid, other little gameplay bits here and there) FFX is quite solid and interesting. (Compared to the travest that is FFXIII anyway...)
And it has great visual design. A little generic sometimes I will admit, but its a world most people wanted to go back to. (Until they actually played X-2 that is! XD)
EDIT: And you read my mind too. I was about to post a link to that theme of awesomeness!
Nobuo Uematsu departed from the series at the same time that it turned sour; coincidence? Possibly.
I'd argue that Sakaguchi is Final Fantasy, and that without him, the series just lost its soul and its purpose.
Lost Odyssey is pretty much the Final Fantasy everyone wanted but didn't get. It had some quirks, but I believe it pushed the RPG into an art form almost.
I haven't played The Last Story, but I have only heard good things about it.
I am so, so painfully tempted to pick it up everytime I see it. And I may do so now that I have the Wii re-setup, but there is a reason I only play NES games on the Wii...
Well.. These days a 360 admittadely isn't all that much better than a PS3.
In some ways the PS3 is doing better since its getting a lot of Japanese games. (The 360 is basically dead in Japan)
I just get it all on 360 for simplicity in my case. (Might get the PS3 exclusives at some point down the road)
I wonder if the WiiU will be able to bridge the gap.
(Probably won't though...)
EDIT: I'm also kind of worried that my last 360 will die at some point.
(By then hopefully I'll have a new PC. Otherwise I'll just get some more cheapo 360's off ebay and get my old man to fix them. Should last a couple of months at least (I just hope the next xbox console is more compatible than the 360 was, else things will get... complicated.... ;X))
That fuck nugget is like a kick to the balls during winter; you avoid that twat like the plague! Go shove your blitzball up your fucking jacksy, you shitting, mother fucking cunt sack, you!
Pretty much what should happen to the film prints of Prometheus.
You know I think everyone has CDI Gannon totally wrong.
He doesn't seem like a bad guy to me, in fact I'm pretty sure he was only trying to help people.
Take little Linkie for instance.
He just wanted to give the guy a makeover. Green, brown and blond? So 87!
Just wanted to jazz him up, I mean, I wouldn't be seen dead in that getup either honey.
My little doggie looked at her, now late, buddie's favorite spot to nap, and looked at me back with a "where is my friend?" kind of face. I feel so bad that her best friend is no longer with us and I feel even worse everytime she looks back there for her.
I don't think I've ever felt this bad in a long time.:(
My little doggie looked at her, now late, buddie's favorite spot to nap, and looked at me back with a "where is my friend?" kind of face. I feel so bad that her best friend is no longer with us and I feel even worse everytime she looks back there for her.
Not much you can do about it, unless you acquire a new friend for her.
I have Metal Gear Solid 1-3, Sly Cooper, and Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2.
Ace Combat 5
Black
Dragon Quest VIII
Gran Turismo 4
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Okami (also for Wii)
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
Tales of the Abyss
FFX-2 was bad, but a different kind of bad. It's bad in that it has characters (Leblanc) wearing raunchy clothes for no reason; completely redefines Yuna's personality with no explanation; the jobs system, while clever, is eye-rollingly silly; and in order to get the best ending, you require a strategy guide.
I found it to be annoying in places, but tolerable. The ability to go anywhere at will from the start of the game (allowing for different dialogue depending on the order visited) changed things up a bit which was good.
FFX is terrible because:
The gameplay is extremely linear (which is a major negative when coming after 7, 8 and 9 for PSX which had a lot of freedom to wander)
The menu colors are ugly and unable to be changed
Changing weapons and armor on a regular basis serves no real purpose other than to gain more slots
While exp required to the next level increases over time, there is no visible numbered levelling system, which means there is no way to make properly informed decisions about which way you should go first on the sphere grid;
Tidus is annoying
The plot twist about sin
(that it's Jekt)
is revealed at the beginning of the game, so that it isn't a twist at all;
The characters carry on about how they intend to complete their mission LONG after the player has already decided there must be another way;
Yuna has a ton of opportunities to
send Seymour
which she doesn't take advantage of;
The Blitzball minigame is pointless
...and more reasons which I'm sure I can think of later.
I liked Final Fantasy VIII a lot, so I was annoyed with how Spoony complained about it at ridiculous lengths for reasons which are, quite frankly, grasping at straws. However, I agree wholeheartedly with nearly everything that Spoony complains at Final Fantasy X about.
I think I have determined the reason there are people who like Final Fantasy X to be largely because they hadn't played 7 or 8 (or perhaps 9, though I didn't care for it) for PSX before playing 10, so they didn't have a proper standard by which to judge FFX's level of suck.
So coolsome, it's okay because you probably didn't know any better.
...unless you actually did know better. Then, shame on you.
I think I have determined the reason there are people who like Final Fantasy X to be largely because they hadn't played 7 or 8 (or perhaps 9, though I didn't care for it) for PSX before playing 10, so they didn't have a proper standard by which to judge FFX's level of suck.
So coolsome, it's okay because you probably didn't know any better.
FF X was my first Final Fantasy game. It's a series I ment to play sooner but it passed me buy till I got a ps2.
Final Fantasy X was my first Final Fantasy game. It turned me off not only to Final Fantasy as a series, but to Japanese RPGs as a GENRE, for a DECADE.
FF X was my first Final Fantasy game. It's a series I ment to play sooner but it passed me buy till I got a ps2.
Ah. Well, in that case I recommend FF7. You'd have to get over the dated graphics quality, but the story is fantastic. Also, I enjoyed FF8. Spoony whines and bitches about how Squall is full of angst, but I just find that to be part of his character. He's not annoying for being that way, it's just how he is. And you (the player) feel happy for how it turns out for him in the end.
My first Final Fantasy game was Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. I enjoyed it far more than anything else I've played in the series, save for Final Fantasy Tactics A2. I got the levels and combat system in Crystal Chronicles just fine, but couldn't wrap my head around the larger overall goal of the game (plus it was practically unbearable in single player, and I could never get a friend to play with me for long enough to finish the game), and Final Fantasy III was just sort of mediocre. I briefly tried Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions, but it couldn't hold me. It felt like an inferior and annoying prototype for FFTA.
FF3 is mediocre now as a remake, but keep in mind they didn't change the gameplay at all from the original when they remade it and ported the Japanese remake. The original Final Fantasy games had a really neat concept in terms of starting out as a certain class and evolving into a new class as you leveled up. It's not even remotely new or inspiring of an idea by now, but in terms of what it is, that's how I look at it.
Yup. I was spoiled on the best ones!
(I suggest starting at VI if any. Its the entire point of the series. The finest 2D Fantasy RPG ever constructed (Chrono Trigger is very close though). Play some of the other ones and get a feel for the lore, then play IX and appreciate that beautiful Swan song of a game! :') )
I didn't care for FF9. The most interesting character is Vivi, while Zidane has
an almost identical twist to his character arc
which makes Zidane's ordeal much less interesting by that point. The queen looks like a fat, ridiculous clown--in no way resembling someone directly related to Garnet
(which makes Garnet's realization that she isn't less of a revelation for us and more of a "duh" moment for Garnet)
. Also, Kuja, a man who is supposed to be one of the primary antagonists, looks like a little girl, so he looks in no way threatening to the player.
FFX-2 was bad, but a different kind of bad. It's bad in that it has characters (Leblanc) wearing raunchy clothes for no reason; completely redefines Yuna's personality with no explanation; the jobs system, while clever, is eye-rollingly silly; and in order to get the best ending, you require a strategy guide.
I found it to be annoying in places, but tolerable. The ability to go anywhere at will from the start of the game (allowing for different dialogue depending on the order visited) changed things up a bit which was good.
FFX is terrible because:
The gameplay is extremely linear (which is a major negative when coming after 7, 8 and 9 for PSX which had a lot of freedom to wander)
The menu colors are ugly and unable to be changed
Changing weapons and armor on a regular basis serves no real purpose other than to gain more slots
While exp required to the next level increases over time, there is no visible numbered levelling system, which means there is no way to make properly informed decisions about which way you should go first on the sphere grid;
Tidus is annoying
The plot twist about sin
(that it's Jekt)
is revealed at the beginning of the game, so that it isn't a twist at all;
The characters carry on about how they intend to complete their mission LONG after the player has already decided there must be another way;
Yuna has a ton of opportunities to
send Seymour
which she doesn't take advantage of;
The Blitzball minigame is pointless
...and more reasons which I'm sure I can think of later.
I liked Final Fantasy VIII a lot, so I was annoyed with how Spoony complained about it at ridiculous lengths for reasons which are, quite frankly, grasping at straws. However, I agree wholeheartedly with nearly everything that Spoony complains at Final Fantasy X about.
I thought FFVIII was one of the worst I played. I later warmed up to it, but still feel the combat is incredibly stupid. Basically every character can be everything. The same mildly applies to FFX but the distance to overlapping powers is much greater with the sphere grid.
I LOVED FFX. It created this interesting world that I just had a joy to inhabit.
I didn't care for FF9. The most interesting character is Vivi, while Zidane has
an almost identical twist to his character arc
which makes Zidane's ordeal much less interesting by that point. The queen looks like a fat, ridiculous clown--in no way resembling someone directly related to Garnet
(which makes Garnet's realization that she isn't less of a revelation for us and more of a "duh" moment for Garnet)
. Also, Kuja, a man who is supposed to be one of the primary antagonists, looks like a little girl, so he looks in no way threatening to the player.
Well, I think with Kuja you have to look at it from Japanese design perspective. The characters have always had a Yaoi look to them, that just became more obvious as the technology advanced.
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Yep, the only good thing about the game.
... oh, that too!
Amen. God bless that metallic clanger! *clank* *clank* *clank*
I don't know.
I mean mechanically (the battling, the sphere grid, other little gameplay bits here and there) FFX is quite solid and interesting. (Compared to the travest that is FFXIII anyway...)
And it has great visual design. A little generic sometimes I will admit, but its a world most people wanted to go back to. (Until they actually played X-2 that is! XD)
EDIT: And you read my mind too. I was about to post a link to that theme of awesomeness!
True, true. However, I primarily play the Final Fantasy games for their story and in that respect FFX is severally lacking.
Talk about faint praise! Consuming a festering turd is preferable to playing the shite fest that is FFXIII!
Nobuo Uematsu departed from the series at the same time that it started to turn sour; coincidence? Possibly.
I'd argue that Sakaguchi is Final Fantasy, and that without him, the series just lost its soul and its purpose.
Lost Odyssey is pretty much the Final Fantasy everyone wanted but didn't get. It had some quirks, but I believe it pushed the RPG into an art form almost.
I haven't played The Last Story, but I have only heard good things about it.
I am so, so painfully tempted to pick it up everytime I see it. And I may do so now that I have the Wii re-setup, but there is a reason I only play NES games on the Wii...
'Peep Show' is great!
Reasons that I wished I owned a 360 - #574.
Well.. These days a 360 admittadely isn't all that much better than a PS3.
In some ways the PS3 is doing better since its getting a lot of Japanese games. (The 360 is basically dead in Japan)
I just get it all on 360 for simplicity in my case. (Might get the PS3 exclusives at some point down the road)
I wonder if the WiiU will be able to bridge the gap.
(Probably won't though...)
EDIT: I'm also kind of worried that my last 360 will die at some point.
(By then hopefully I'll have a new PC. Otherwise I'll just get some more cheapo 360's off ebay and get my old man to fix them. Should last a couple of months at least (I just hope the next xbox console is more compatible than the 360 was, else things will get... complicated.... ;X))
Pretty much what should happen to the film prints of Prometheus.
Hehe. I watched that the other day... whilst sparking up a fat one!
Oh, do fuck off.
I thought I was pretty swell then I found out that drinking all that soda made me an alcoholic!
He doesn't seem like a bad guy to me, in fact I'm pretty sure he was only trying to help people.
Take little Linkie for instance.
He just wanted to give the guy a makeover. Green, brown and blond? So 87!
Just wanted to jazz him up, I mean, I wouldn't be seen dead in that getup either honey.
I don't think I've ever felt this bad in a long time.:(
I remember 80's shit! Dog turds used to be white in colour back then.
I can honestly say that I never thought that I'd be getting all nostalgic about poop!
Not much you can do about it, unless you acquire a new friend for her.
What do you guys think? I dont know if anybody else watches it
Black
Dragon Quest VIII
Gran Turismo 4
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Okami (also for Wii)
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
Tales of the Abyss
Yes.
We have a thread for that.
I found it to be annoying in places, but tolerable. The ability to go anywhere at will from the start of the game (allowing for different dialogue depending on the order visited) changed things up a bit which was good.
FFX is terrible because:
- The gameplay is extremely linear (which is a major negative when coming after 7, 8 and 9 for PSX which had a lot of freedom to wander)
- The menu colors are ugly and unable to be changed
- Changing weapons and armor on a regular basis serves no real purpose other than to gain more slots
- While exp required to the next level increases over time, there is no visible numbered levelling system, which means there is no way to make properly informed decisions about which way you should go first on the sphere grid;
- Tidus is annoying
- The plot twist about sin
(that it's Jekt)
is revealed at the beginning of the game, so that it isn't a twist at all;
- The characters carry on about how they intend to complete their mission LONG after the player has already decided there must be another way;
- Yuna has a ton of opportunities to
send Seymour
which she doesn't take advantage of;
- The Blitzball minigame is pointless
...and more reasons which I'm sure I can think of later.I liked Final Fantasy VIII a lot, so I was annoyed with how Spoony complained about it at ridiculous lengths for reasons which are, quite frankly, grasping at straws. However, I agree wholeheartedly with nearly everything that Spoony complains at Final Fantasy X about.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
So coolsome, it's okay because you probably didn't know any better.
...unless you actually did know better. Then, shame on you.
Or twice.
A month.
Give or take a few.
FF X was my first Final Fantasy game. It's a series I ment to play sooner but it passed me buy till I got a ps2.
It is that bad.
I think it may have been VI or IX.
Yup. I was spoiled on the best ones!
(I suggest starting at VI if any. Its the entire point of the series. The finest 2D Fantasy RPG ever constructed (Chrono Trigger is very close though). Play some of the other ones and get a feel for the lore, then play IX and appreciate that beautiful Swan song of a game! :') )
If anybody is going to protest in front of a Star Wars convention to bring us more Monkey Island, someone should put up a sign with that text.
That or:
"An Imperial Stormtrooper I was meant to be! Trim the sails and roam the sea!" doesn't have the same ring to it.
I thought FFVIII was one of the worst I played. I later warmed up to it, but still feel the combat is incredibly stupid. Basically every character can be everything. The same mildly applies to FFX but the distance to overlapping powers is much greater with the sphere grid.
I LOVED FFX. It created this interesting world that I just had a joy to inhabit.
Well, I think with Kuja you have to look at it from Japanese design perspective. The characters have always had a Yaoi look to them, that just became more obvious as the technology advanced.
Sephiroth (from FF7) is menacing. He might not have a very manly face, but his overall character design works a whole lot better than Kuja's.