LIES! - A Question About Missing Tarot Cards
Hey, everyone!
I have a question for Telltale. I hear that "The Scientist" and "The Sixth Sense" cards are missing from the Voodoo Card Set. According to the product page in the store (http://www.telltalegames.com/store/tomi-voodoo), the set includes "all the cards seen in the game, plus new ones." It even includes a picture of "The Scientist" as one of the sample images.
So, what gives? The Scientist and Sixth Sense cards were definitely in the game, so according to the product page, they should be in the set!
Can we get an official word on what happened, and can we please get these two cards somehow?
Thanks!
Koomazaz
I have a question for Telltale. I hear that "The Scientist" and "The Sixth Sense" cards are missing from the Voodoo Card Set. According to the product page in the store (http://www.telltalegames.com/store/tomi-voodoo), the set includes "all the cards seen in the game, plus new ones." It even includes a picture of "The Scientist" as one of the sample images.
So, what gives? The Scientist and Sixth Sense cards were definitely in the game, so according to the product page, they should be in the set!
Can we get an official word on what happened, and can we please get these two cards somehow?
Thanks!
Koomazaz
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Can't tell you for the scientist.
Er... they'd have to make them first. That would probably cost them a LOT. Don't hold your breath.
lol, reminds me of Persona. I love those games.
I'm guessing that someone at Telltale made a mistake, and no-one checked it against the game. I doubt they'd send anymore cards though, it doesn't make sense financially. That being said, it shouldn't have happened in the first place, it even shows The Scientist on the site.
They're still pretty damn cool though.
the two cards should be sent out to the people who bought the set thinking they were going to get what was advertised.. and the 6th sense card could just be a regular card... with just a flat picture.
here is some screen caps from the store in case they change the wording later. I mean comeon they even have the scientist card pictured as coming with the set....
Notice that there is NOT a card count in the description it only says that you get ALL of the cards shown in the game... by that description the card that comes with the deluxe edition should be all new.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4555/96101036.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4089/26228859.jpg
We're looking into this. The store description is getting changed, at least for the short term.
It may have been an oversight during the production process for the cards.
When we first announced the Voodoo Card Set, we had planned to include all cards from the game. Between the time that we announced the cards and when they were printed, we made a few changes, including the addition of four completely new cards created by Ryan Jones specifically for this set – The Devil, The Guide, Strength, and The Tower (these are bonuses, beyond the cards in the game). The card set description on the site is being updated to accurately describe the shipping product. The Sixth Sense hadn’t been intended for the final set (some categorize it as an “effect” more than a separate card … granted, this is somewhat debatable).
We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.
-Tom Byron, Telltale Games
So will there ever be a "The Scientist" card?
This isn't one of those instances where we didn't read the fine print... it was clearly pictured as part of the set.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4089/26228859.jpg
as of this post it still is pictured... its not like we paid a $1 for the set it was $20...
It will come as a prize in specially marked boxes of Guybrush's Mighty Pirate™ brand cereal. Other prizes include: treasure crab wind-up toy, giant manatee squirt toy, and a key.
Why did you have to say that, now im going to be wishing I had one.
I just don't think mailing a single card would be very cost-effective for them, even if they did manage to get them printed. I think at best, if they get it printed they should have it for free to people who bought the voodoo cards, but you'd still pay for shipping - like with the DVDs. Or you could order it but only grouped with something else. But I don't think they're going to print that one card, it just seems too unlikely to me.
I personally would care more about the lack of the dagger in the betrayal card. Why did it disappear? That's a bit weird.
I hereby submit a request for a photoshopped box of the aforementioned cereal, complete with prizes.
So, any chance at all of getting The Scientist card printed and mailed to purchasers?
-_-'
The cards were sold for 19.99. Of course it's not 100% profit. Shipping alone outside the US would could 17 dollars per person, negating all profits. You might think sales inside the US would make up for it enough that they'd still make some profit, but add to that production cost and I'm pretty sure each voodoo cards sale would end up being a loss for them if they did that.
I just can't see it happening.
And I'm pretty sure everyone would complain again if they had to pay shipping for that extra card, too.
But I'd have to say it is kinda poor show that even after things got changed in production the store still says all the cards from the game are included AND pictures the scientist card when it isn't in the set.
Yeah, I was wondering about that too...
Esp since people paid thinking they would get that card
Putting the card in an envelope isn't expensive. Production and shipping are expensive.
When I order something, the cheapest shipping option is 17 dollars. They don't make any profit on shipping, therefore that's what they're paying as well.
It probably involve stuff like insurance, or they have a deal with the company so they don't have to weigh everything before they can get a price. I dunno, either way it's expensive if they want to do it in a professional way.
If they just put a card in a regular envelope, even forgetting the likelihood that it would get damaged, they still have to pay people to do that.
Not to mention they'd have to actually print the cards first, which is apparently a long, complicated process, and I'm sure would cost a bunch of money.
I don't know, I can see them maaybe accepting returns for unopened decks (if you pay shipping), but even that sounds like a stretch to me.
Thing is, those people who have already purchased their cards LEGALLY have to get everything they ordered. It's false advertising otherwise. Now, I'm not too torn up about the fact of a missing card if it is simply unavailable, but I do think that Telltale must in turn do something to make up for it. I definitely think the only good way to make up for their mistake is to print the cards and mail them. They could just stick the card in a padded bubble envelope with think cardboard on either side. Write "DO NOT BEND" on the envelope, and mail it! Sure, out-of-country shipping will be a bit more costly, but mailing a small envelope surely is less than $17. As I said, in my opinion, I feel this is the only true way to correct the problem.
But this is just my opinion.
P.S. I love Telltale Games!
Back
Front - Scientist
Front - Betrayal with dagger
Here you go. The corners look a bit different but that can probably be shopped.
Where did you find these?
And yeah TTG needs to do something about it for the people who ordered before they changed the description and the picture.....
Someone posted the whole deck (as seen in-game) on the forums at some point (including the cards made out of two cards). I still had them on my computer.
I think by law (at least in the UK, and i'm sure the US too) they have to accept returns for these items. They aren't as described, making it false advertising. To liken it to something else, it's like MCDonalds saying their fries have all the nutritional value of an apple. Whilst they probably share some nutrition, they don't have all (far from it). Yes it's an extreme example, but it's still true.
They should have informed people of the changes before the order was shipped, to enquire whether they wanted to continue. Like Amazons pre-order sevice (they don't take money until they ship, and if there is a change in price, they need your confirmation again before charging&shipping)
I honestly think they will do something I have faith that TTG will not burn loyal fans and customers.
I suppose what they could do is create a second series of all new cards at some point and include the missing Scientist card in that set. Or something. I don't know.
To be clear, I absolutely agree that it was an honest mistake. But that doesn't take away their obligation to make it right.
They could for example add the scientist card to future decks, but also get enough scientist cards on their own without deck to cover all existing orders and add a flag to all the accounts that got/will get the scientist-less version then when they next order physical goods (eg not a download on its own) they can slip the card in with it.
Don't get me wrong I'm not hugely upset by it. I do like the scientist card and think given the description and picture of it its a bit wrong for it to not be included and I'd like to see telltale add it to the deck and get the extra card to everyone who missed out, but at the same time I'm not like OMG sue them false advertising it ruined the set etc.