Well Doc mentioned that the stainless steel construction had a positive effect on the flux dispersal. So I believe there is a scientific reason to stick with the delorean as well.
As far as the license plate is concerned, it'll all probably be explained. The final episode is named after the license plate. It's probably all to do with it. My guess is that it's a detail that's certainly intended and we'll all find out why sooner or later.
Maybe Telltale will handwave the whole debacle by having the games' Delorean be on a time loop - at the end, it gets sent to the start of Episode 1.
Marty: Wait... if we send it back with the letter... then... where the hell did it come from?
Doc: Marty, this is the hardest and most important thing any scientist ever has to say: I don't know.
Maybe Telltale will handwave the whole debacle by having the games' Delorean be on a time loop - at the end, it gets sent to the start of Episode 1.
Marty: Wait... if we send it back with the letter... then... where the hell did it come from?
Doc: Marty, this is the hardest and most important thing any scientist ever has to say: I don't know.
Funny thing is...I could almost see that happening.
Maybe Telltale will handwave the whole debacle by having the games' Delorean be on a time loop - at the end, it gets sent to the start of Episode 1.
Marty: Wait... if we send it back with the letter... then... where the hell did it come from?
Doc: Marty, this is the hardest and most important thing any scientist ever has to say: I don't know.
I love back to the future but I dont know every detail like some, so I know someone will have an answer to my question, is there any reason why the delorean from the trailer cant be the delorean from before Doc added the barcode number plate?
Also they only show the Delorean drive in the trailer, they dont show it fly, I guess that could be coz Marty doesnt know how to fly it so he chooses to drive
I think everyone is dismissing the BttF1 Delorean to quickly.
We see Doc Brown leave at the end of the first movie with the Delorean. Presumably it would still have the 'Outatime' license plate at this time. He states that he is traveling about 30 years in the future. He returns shortly then after to take Marty and Jennifer to the future with him in the post-modified Delorean.
However, who says that he made the trip to 2015, had the Delorean modified with Mr. Fusion and the hover conversion, and then came directly back?
This could have been a multistage trip:
1. Go to 2015
2. Installed Mr. Fusion so that more time travel jumps are easier
3. **Events of the Game happen**
4. Go back to the future to finish researching Marty's kids, and to get new license plates so that they can install the hover feature
5. Go back to 1985 to get Marty and Jennifer
The Delorean would not have the hover feature yet, but would have Mr. Fusion and it would have a reasonable explanation for this. It would also fit the time line pretty well without a paradox. We already know the Doc made a lot of time jumps in that small period of time he left Marty and Jennifer at the end of BttF1. He tells Marty at the beginning of BttF2 that he already went into the future to see how his kids turn out...
Also they only show the Delorean drive in the trailer, they dont show it fly, I guess that could be coz Marty doesnt know how to fly it so he chooses to drive
Hmmm...good point and good excuse to keep the DeLorean on the ground for first couple of eps.
@GJohanns
I posted a very similair theory in another thread. I was also to believe it could BttF1's DeLorean. Especially because we get to visit Lone Pine Mall and/or Twin Pine Mall judging from the art designs.
Twin Pine Mall could only exist if Marty's first timetravel was undone.
But what debunks this theory however is that Doc apparently has a wedding ring.
So somehow BttF3 must have taken place. Also looking at the synopsis of ep 1 the game acknowledges Marty to have seen the DeLoren being destroyed.
I think everyone is dismissing the BttF1 Delorean too quickly.
The reason why it couldn't be: The wedding ring Doc wears on the trailer (Origami beated me to it) and the fact that he says "...you've come to my rescue in the Past, or was it the Future?...". This Doc is Post-BTTF3 and wouldn't (even couldn't) use the original DeLorean (any instance in the Trilogy) for the reasons I previously stated in my "Ripple Effect" post here: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=413044&postcount=72
About the description of the 1st. Episode, I believe is written from Marty's perspective narrated from a third point of view, so when reading "Marty McFly is just getting re-acquainted with the 1980's when the DeLorean Time Machine he saw destroyed by a speeding train rematerializes before him" it's not literally the same DeLorean.
The reason why it couldn't be: The wedding ring Doc wears on the trailer and the fact that he says "...you've come to my rescue in the Past, or was it the Future?...". This Doc is Post-BTTF3 and wouldn't (even couldn't) use the original DeLorean (any instance in the Trilogy) for the reasons I previously stated in my "Ripple Effect" post here: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=413044&postcount=72
Good points.
As a tangent: Does anyone else ever meet themselves in the movies besides Biff and Jennifer? Could Doc Brown "borrow" his own car from himself?
After BTTF III Doc could have made a trip to the past and have caused some chain reaction which lead to the original Delorean to never have been destroyed.
(And maybe even a few design changes)
And worse thanks to the after effects there will be no hover car conversion in 2015.
(Thankfully Talltale still had released "Stories of Simian island" )
After BTTF III Doc could have made a trip to the past and have caused some chain reaction which lead to the original Delorean to never have been destroyed.
(And maybe even a few design changes)
Not possible, because we have a Marty who's seeing the DeLorean "he saw destroyed by a speeding train" (Marty's perspective, as in "Jesus Christ! there can't be another time-travelling DeLorean but the one I left scattered all over the railroad tracks"). So, this is a Post-DeLorean-Destruction Marty. Doc couldn't get the original DeLorean "undestroyed" and having a Marty remembering it smashed to pieces.
Yes! Yes! And the hoverboard... *tears welling up*
No, that couldn't be..items do not totally dissappear in BTTF, although the appearance of it might. For example, Biff stole the almanac from 2015 and gave it to himself in 1955, thus creating an alternate 1985. He kept the almanac stored in a safe even though he altered the future, and it never changed or faded away. BUT when Marty and Doc makes things right, the matchbook changes from Biff's Pleasure Palace to Biff's Auto Detailing and so does the newspaper..the items, however stay the same. It's still a matchbook,newspaper, hoverboard,etc.
Here's one thing. Doc MIGHT have taken the DeLorean prior to its destruction on the tracks. We never knew where he and the rest of the Brown family were off to. And there wouldn't be a paradox because Marty and Jennifer were still at the train tracks anyways, and Marty's memories wouldn't change. Remember, in BTTF1, he had no idea what was going on in the McFly house when he first woke up.
Here's one thing. Doc MIGHT have taken the DeLorean prior to its destruction on the tracks. We never knew where he and the rest of the Brown family were off to. And there wouldn't be a paradox because Marty and Jennifer were still at the train tracks anyways, and Marty's memories wouldn't change. Remember, in BTTF1, he had no idea what was going on in the McFly house when he first woke up.
The only problem with that is, the DeLorean is destroyed by the train essentially immediately when Marty returns to 1985 (there's about a minute difference, but still). In order to do what you're saying, Doc would have to land the time train, get out, get Marty out of the DeLorean, and somehow get a car with no gas off of the train tracks, all in one minute, and with a train bearing down on him.
Well, not impossible for Doc Brown, but extremely unlikely. Logically, logistically, and temporally speaking, that's the ONLY way it could be the same DeLorean and not create a major paradox. Either that or Doc is a bigger genius than we give him credit for and he was able to reconstruct the DeLorean from the parts scattered all over the train tracks.
If Doc takes that DeLorean there would be no point for Marty and Jennifer to go to the railroad intersection; but, of course, it IS the only way to avoid a paradox if you don't consider the game at all, because the game's Marty would not remember the car being destroyed.
Besides, it's messing with canon material, which is what should be avoided
If Doc takes that DeLorean there would be no point for Marty and Jennifer to go to the railroad intersection; but, of course, it IS the only way to avoid a paradox.
Besides, it's messing with canon material, which is what should be avoided
There might have been no point, however they already visited the railroad intersection. Time travel is confusing though, especially BTTF's time travel.
I chalk up the minor differences in the DeLorean equipment position/visibility to the idea that it's a new DeLorean time machine, and that the original was a prototype so Doc may have found more efficient locations/uses for certain parts considering that this is apparently his 3rd successful attempt. By now he ought to have refined his technique a bit.
Like i posted before a paradox could be avoided if this is how it happened:
1. At the end of BTTF 3 Doc and family go to the past.
2. Doc gets in trouble and sends the time machine to Marty (the time machine could have come from the 70 years it was in the mine since it wasnt being used at that time)
3. Events of the game happen where at the end Marty returns the time machine to the mine to avoid a paradox
^
That would work only if taking the Delorean out of the mine would prevent Marty go from 1955 to 1885 and thus killing Doc.
BUT thanks to you I came up with the solution FINALLY!
Doc goes back with the train to 1885 after Marty saved Doc but before traveling back to 1985.
He fixes the DeLorean and Marty can go back to 1985 without using the railroad.
The only problem with this theory would be that It should be the 4th version of the DeLorean but with a new set of wheels.
I don´t think so,because it would be way too stupid to repair the "Delgardo" DeLorean to send it to Marty and then after his Job is done he has to destroy the Time-Circuits again...
Edit:Origami´s Version is very interresting and a possible way to deal with the situation.Like it.
Doc goes back with the train to 1885 after Marty saved Doc but before traveling back to 1985.
He fixes the DeLorean and Marty can go back to 1985 without using the railroad.
But the game synopsis says that Marty saw the DeLorean destroyed by the train. And he's genuinely surprised when it reappears in the trailer.
^
That would work only if taking the Delorean out of the mine would prevent Marty go from 1955 to 1885 and thus killing Doc.
But like i wrote in my previous post, if Marty returns the DeLorean to the mine at the end of the game, it will still be there so he can travel from 1955 to 1885 to save the Doc.
@markeres:
That´s another Story, what you mean is the so called ripple-effect, but in the movie as an example this effect didn´t showed up like it should. Marty changed his own version of 1985 but he can´t remember a life with his "NEW" parents like he should if the ripple-effect takes place, same with Doc in 1885 he can´t remember the fact that he has sended Marty to 1885 in 1955.
Don´t know maybe i´m wrong with this.
But like i wrote in my previous post, if Marty returns the DeLorean to the mine at the end of the game, it will still be there so he can travel from 1955 to 1885 to save the Doc.
It doesn't work that way. Because if Marty takes the DeLorean out of the mine he can't be in 1985.
There are too many unknowns for Marty and Doc to remove the Delorean from the mine.
What if Marty took the Delorean from the mine, and then (accidentally) damaged it beyond repair? Instant paradox. He may not even need to take it out of the mine for this to happen - mine collapses are definitely possible.
If Doc actually believed they could use the Delorean from the mine, he would have done so to escape 1885 in Back to the Future III. The fact that he didn't even bring this up during Part III is a pretty good indication that the temporal rules used in BTTF prevent interfering with past Deloreans.
There are too many unknowns for Marty and Doc to remove the Delorean from the mine.
What if Marty took the Delorean from the mine, and then (accidentally) damaged it beyond repair? Instant paradox. He may not even need to take it out of the mine for this to happen - mine collapses are definitely possible.
If Doc actually believed they could use the Delorean from the mine, he would have done so to escape 1885 in Back to the Future III. The fact that he didn't even bring this up during Part III is a pretty good indication that the temporal rules used in BTTF prevent interfering with past Deloreans.
Yea ur right, the Deloreans time circuits were wrecked so it couldnt be sent back anyway.
Just realised that what I posted doesn't really make sense, since Doc couldn't use the Delorean in the mine since it was already damaged (I blame the early mornings I've been having). But I still maintain that it's just simply too dangerous to interfere with the Delgado Delorean.
For instance, after Doc blew the fuel-injection manifold with the strong alcohol, he could have gutted the manifold from the Delgado Delorean.
What bothers me about Part III is that Doc presumably buried the Delorean in the mine only days before Marty arrived. He would have drained all the gas from it before storage, and with a guy like Doc, you would have to assume that he would keep such a valuable resource. Apparently not.
Yea ur right, the Deloreans time circuits were wrecked so it couldnt be sent back anyway.
He said the flying circuits were destroyed, not the time circuits. Otherwise Marty would never have been able to go back in time to save Doc after he pulled it from the mine in 1955.
He said the flying circuits were destroyed, not the time circuits. Otherwise Marty would never be able to go back in time to save Doc after he pulled it from the mine in 1955.
Uh no...he said the time circuits were also damaged. That's why they had to do that jury-rigging in 1955 to get the time machine to work again, making it using 1955 components (that thing on the hood was the time circuit controls). And it would be VERY foolish of Doc to snatch it from another time.
Unless there's some other explanation, I STILL think it's a second DeLorean time vehicle that the Doc made sometime after he converted the old-time steam locomotive. If he can convert a steam engine in 1885 to do such, he could easily convert a second DeLorean without much trouble.
I would presume that Doc would bury the DeLorean as soon as he had determined it was unusable, which probably would have been months prior to writing the letter. Also it is apparent that Doc is still experimenting with inventions, as shown by the ice-maker, so I would hazard a bet that he would have used the gasoline in some of his experiments.
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I also approve Seither's reasons :P
Marty: Wait... if we send it back with the letter... then... where the hell did it come from?
Doc: Marty, this is the hardest and most important thing any scientist ever has to say: I don't know.
Funny thing is...I could almost see that happening.
Because it has the Mr.Fusion installed. This was done in 2015 where Doc also had the licence changed.
Also they only show the Delorean drive in the trailer, they dont show it fly, I guess that could be coz Marty doesnt know how to fly it so he chooses to drive
We see Doc Brown leave at the end of the first movie with the Delorean. Presumably it would still have the 'Outatime' license plate at this time. He states that he is traveling about 30 years in the future. He returns shortly then after to take Marty and Jennifer to the future with him in the post-modified Delorean.
However, who says that he made the trip to 2015, had the Delorean modified with Mr. Fusion and the hover conversion, and then came directly back?
This could have been a multistage trip:
1. Go to 2015
2. Installed Mr. Fusion so that more time travel jumps are easier
3. **Events of the Game happen**
4. Go back to the future to finish researching Marty's kids, and to get new license plates so that they can install the hover feature
5. Go back to 1985 to get Marty and Jennifer
The Delorean would not have the hover feature yet, but would have Mr. Fusion and it would have a reasonable explanation for this. It would also fit the time line pretty well without a paradox. We already know the Doc made a lot of time jumps in that small period of time he left Marty and Jennifer at the end of BttF1. He tells Marty at the beginning of BttF2 that he already went into the future to see how his kids turn out...
Hmmm...good point and good excuse to keep the DeLorean on the ground for first couple of eps.
@GJohanns
I posted a very similair theory in another thread. I was also to believe it could BttF1's DeLorean. Especially because we get to visit Lone Pine Mall and/or Twin Pine Mall judging from the art designs.
Twin Pine Mall could only exist if Marty's first timetravel was undone.
But what debunks this theory however is that Doc apparently has a wedding ring.
So somehow BttF3 must have taken place. Also looking at the synopsis of ep 1 the game acknowledges Marty to have seen the DeLoren being destroyed.
The reason why it couldn't be: The wedding ring Doc wears on the trailer (Origami beated me to it) and the fact that he says "...you've come to my rescue in the Past, or was it the Future?...". This Doc is Post-BTTF3 and wouldn't (even couldn't) use the original DeLorean (any instance in the Trilogy) for the reasons I previously stated in my "Ripple Effect" post here: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=413044&postcount=72
About the description of the 1st. Episode, I believe is written from Marty's perspective narrated from a third point of view, so when reading "Marty McFly is just getting re-acquainted with the 1980's when the DeLorean Time Machine he saw destroyed by a speeding train rematerializes before him" it's not literally the same DeLorean.
Good points.
As a tangent: Does anyone else ever meet themselves in the movies besides Biff and Jennifer? Could Doc Brown "borrow" his own car from himself?
About "borrowing" his car, which one, the DeLorean or the Packard? Not a chance on the DeLorean... but the Packard, just when Young Doc's not using it
After BTTF III Doc could have made a trip to the past and have caused some chain reaction which lead to the original Delorean to never have been destroyed.
(And maybe even a few design changes)
And worse thanks to the after effects there will be no hover car conversion in 2015.
(Thankfully Talltale still had released "Stories of Simian island" )
Not possible, because we have a Marty who's seeing the DeLorean "he saw destroyed by a speeding train" (Marty's perspective, as in "Jesus Christ! there can't be another time-travelling DeLorean but the one I left scattered all over the railroad tracks"). So, this is a Post-DeLorean-Destruction Marty. Doc couldn't get the original DeLorean "undestroyed" and having a Marty remembering it smashed to pieces.
I retract this statement. After reading the other DeLorean thread this would not work.
It must be a second car... I can't think of any other way at this point.
No, that couldn't be..items do not totally dissappear in BTTF, although the appearance of it might. For example, Biff stole the almanac from 2015 and gave it to himself in 1955, thus creating an alternate 1985. He kept the almanac stored in a safe even though he altered the future, and it never changed or faded away. BUT when Marty and Doc makes things right, the matchbook changes from Biff's Pleasure Palace to Biff's Auto Detailing and so does the newspaper..the items, however stay the same. It's still a matchbook,newspaper, hoverboard,etc.
Besides, it's messing with canon material, which is what should be avoided
There might have been no point, however they already visited the railroad intersection. Time travel is confusing though, especially BTTF's time travel.
1. At the end of BTTF 3 Doc and family go to the past.
2. Doc gets in trouble and sends the time machine to Marty (the time machine could have come from the 70 years it was in the mine since it wasnt being used at that time)
3. Events of the game happen where at the end Marty returns the time machine to the mine to avoid a paradox
That would work only if taking the Delorean out of the mine would prevent Marty go from 1955 to 1885 and thus killing Doc.
BUT thanks to you I came up with the solution FINALLY!
Doc goes back with the train to 1885 after Marty saved Doc but before traveling back to 1985.
He fixes the DeLorean and Marty can go back to 1985 without using the railroad.
The only problem with this theory would be that It should be the 4th version of the DeLorean but with a new set of wheels.
Edit:Origami´s Version is very interresting and a possible way to deal with the situation.Like it.
But like i wrote in my previous post, if Marty returns the DeLorean to the mine at the end of the game, it will still be there so he can travel from 1955 to 1885 to save the Doc.
That´s another Story, what you mean is the so called ripple-effect, but in the movie as an example this effect didn´t showed up like it should. Marty changed his own version of 1985 but he can´t remember a life with his "NEW" parents like he should if the ripple-effect takes place, same with Doc in 1885 he can´t remember the fact that he has sended Marty to 1885 in 1955.
Don´t know maybe i´m wrong with this.
It doesn't work that way. Because if Marty takes the DeLorean out of the mine he can't be in 1985.
What if Marty took the Delorean from the mine, and then (accidentally) damaged it beyond repair? Instant paradox. He may not even need to take it out of the mine for this to happen - mine collapses are definitely possible.
If Doc actually believed they could use the Delorean from the mine, he would have done so to escape 1885 in Back to the Future III. The fact that he didn't even bring this up during Part III is a pretty good indication that the temporal rules used in BTTF prevent interfering with past Deloreans.
Yea ur right, the Deloreans time circuits were wrecked so it couldnt be sent back anyway.
For instance, after Doc blew the fuel-injection manifold with the strong alcohol, he could have gutted the manifold from the Delgado Delorean.
What bothers me about Part III is that Doc presumably buried the Delorean in the mine only days before Marty arrived. He would have drained all the gas from it before storage, and with a guy like Doc, you would have to assume that he would keep such a valuable resource. Apparently not.
He said the flying circuits were destroyed, not the time circuits. Otherwise Marty would never have been able to go back in time to save Doc after he pulled it from the mine in 1955.
Uh no...he said the time circuits were also damaged. That's why they had to do that jury-rigging in 1955 to get the time machine to work again, making it using 1955 components (that thing on the hood was the time circuit controls). And it would be VERY foolish of Doc to snatch it from another time.
Unless there's some other explanation, I STILL think it's a second DeLorean time vehicle that the Doc made sometime after he converted the old-time steam locomotive. If he can convert a steam engine in 1885 to do such, he could easily convert a second DeLorean without much trouble.