George McFly character discussion
After reading the description of George is he gonna be some sort of villain in this game? it saids in the character description: POSSIBLE SPOILER that he is involved in with the Brown estate in ways that don't sit well with Marty.
Anyway just me speculating anyone have any thoughts or comments ?
Anyway just me speculating anyone have any thoughts or comments ?
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It seems like he executes the sale of Doc's stuff, which Marty can't like. But that bit of ambivalence is OK, as long as they don't exaggerate the "teaching" and condescending tone George has in the early speech samples. I'd find that far more of a problem concerning the character.
So far as we know, we... don't know anything about the extent of his involvement with the Brown estate or how he got involved in the first place (esp. since before now, they apparently weren't aware of Marty's friendship with Doc).
As an artist, I can get behind this theory. Unless you somehow strike it rich with overnight success, you p. much have to have a day job to support living expenses and stuff.
I could see George working at the bank during the day. Seems reasonable enough and it would explain his involvement with the Brown estate too.
We don't really get a sense of what George's "day job" is in the new timeline at the end of BTTF though, so he could work at or for a bank. I assume he still has a day job since A Match Made In Space is his first book, and he still lives in the same house as in the original timeline, so his life can't have been that different overall so far... it seems likely to me that he has the job that was Biff's job in the original timeline, but we don't know what his job was either.
Isn't that kinda weird that George didn't even seem to care one bit about the Delorean?
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Two puzzle-like segments (It was too easy), supporting cast acts weird like this issue, and not many amusing red herring hotspots (Mr. Strickland one was funny but there is not much) that would make the game feel like it was being worked on even when there isn't much of a puzzle to solve.
Or not. The car wasn't there before. I think it's obvious George isn't the bad guy. He did what he could. Nothing could stop the sale, so he took care of it, to make sure everything would be done properly. If he sees Marty wanting something that isn't known to the bank, of course he'll let him have it.
Oh, you know what ? HE DID. ...
George sees the card and the weird get-up, knows it has SOMETHING to do with Doc Brown, and understands that Marty is about to do something stupid crazy to help Doc out, somehow. That's why, whatever excuse you give, he shows Marty didn't really think it through pretty quickly and says that he doesn't want to hear anymore, and that sometimes you have to go out on a limb for those you love. How is this behavior at all strange, especially given who George has become after the events of the first film?
This. I hope before the DVD release of the game they'll make a Director's Cut of episode 1 or something. Because that segment of the game(exluding at Edna) is the only 'smir' of the episode.
-Like I mentioned earlier when the DeLorean appears shouldn't Biff and George notice it?
I hope they can include an extra scene for this.
I actually hoped to have Marty travel back in time in his 80's outfit and find himself an outfit on locaiton. It would add to the 'fish out of water' situation. But then again, it's bad character development because by this time Marty should learn to properly dress before entering a time period.
But at least what I would've like to have seen is to re-enter Doc's lab and look for the clothes there.
True. Too bad he didn't learn to go back to, like, a week or at least 3 days before the event so that he could observe the situation more throughoutly.
Then again, Marty's not always thinking about paradoxes.
Also, Tiff Tannen? To quote Biff's great-grandfather, "What kinda stupid name is that?"
I agree, it might be a girl Tannen for once. And maybe we can see her later on, when we go to the future. Maybe she's the villain of one episode.
Is it just me, or did anyone else get the impression that George McFly knew what Marty's intensions with the DeLorean were? I almost got this suspicion that George knew his son was a time traveller.
It would somewhat make sense, considering how much of a role Marty played in George's teenage years, perhaps he recognized him, or Marty even told him about his adventures between 1985 and 1986. Also, the DeLorean. It just sort of showed up. Out of nowhere.
He also has that old west picture on his bed stand, you can't tell me they wouldn't have recognized that. I think it makes for interesting plot development. Having parents know that their son is a time traveller who got them together. Or at least suspect it.
What are your thoughts?
You know, something came to my mind. Biff saw the DeLorean. Sure, he would not steal it. In the future. Not to mention that the future of BttF would be different. But in BttF2, we see Marty's still in 1955 and still travels to 1985, even when it's 1985A, right? (and when 1985A and the future are both disappeared, if one would to travel back to 1955 again, he would still see the old Biff from the future even if the new old Biff from the future most likely would never travel back to 1955). So if one would travel to October 26th 1985 he would see as Biff sees a flying DeLorean. Which then disappeared. And it's something that hasn't been erased (by the logic of the BttF time continuity).
Who knows, maybe he in shock decided to tell everybody? Like, a flying DeLorean, which suddenly disappeared, what the heck was that and why you don't believe me?
And then there it is: some pimped up DeLorean Marty gets in to, in some very strange and un-1985 clothes. Hm... who knows? Maybe George does suspect something.
I've heard people say that the McFly Seniors didn't want to create a paradox by talking to Marty about it but frankly, I don't believe that even follows the movies internal logic. Also, you talk about the picture from 1885 but seriously, if you had a son and you noticed an old looking photo of him stood in front of a clock, would your first thought be 'Oh wow, my sons travelled back in time' or would you think it was a novelty photograph?!
I'm open to people proving me wrong on this but until then I just find this theory completely illogical.
Well, I'm not saying George does know about the DeLorean. That, kind of, depends on lots of things. But I do think if he does know or suspect something, he (the new he, i.e. a good parent who respects his children, I'm not sure how the old he would act) would not act in any enforcing or snitching way. And he doesn't in the game. Of course, the way he acts in the game doesn't mean he can't act like that without knowing/suspecting anything (of course he can), but all parents (and, well, people) understand that there are a few things in other peoples' life they shouldn't really get into.
That said, I'm not declaring myself on either side of this debate. This post from a Telltale team member is an interesting read, though: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=346551&postcount=42
We also have to remember that George McFly is a science fiction writer who believes "Darth Vader" came down from "Planet Vulcan" in 1955 and told him that if he didn't take Lorainne to the dance, he would melt his brain. Star Wars and Darth Vader came out in 1977. Star Trek in the 60s.
Then a guy named Calvin Klein, whose friends call him "Marty", tries desperately to get him to date Lorainne, but not before convincing him to stand up to Biff and convince Goldie Wilson to run for mayor. This same guy disappears off the face of the Earth before telling them to go easy on their future kid when he sets fire to the living room rug. Something we may or may not assume will still happen.
30 years later they have a child who looks the spitting image of him, sounds like him, plays a guitar like him, and is friends with Doc Brown, an eccentric doctor who lives on "Who the Hell is John F. Kennedy?" drive.
His parents may be dense, but I don't think they are that stupid. They would have to be somewhat suspicious that something seems strange. Even if they don't personally believe in time travel.
It makes for better plot if they know something, but just stay quiet. Sort of like how Lucious Fox knows Wayne is Batman, but pretends to be ignorant for plausible deniability and the interests of his friend.
Somebody already said this, but Biff is unconscious. Also, he wouldn't know what to do with it. Certainly he may remember that it's a flying DeLorean, but he doesn't know it's a time machine. Old Biff only learns that by overhearing Doc and Marty in 2015.
I cant speak for Doc Brown, but if I got my time machine car stolen and had to rush around time trying to restore the timeline, I would certainly learn from the experience and put some sort of mechanism to prevent unauthorized people from using the time circuits.
Hence why Doc didn't tell Marty A about the pending Libyan attack or the bulletproof vest he was wearing, because that would have affected his thought process and jeopardized his trip back into 1955. Doc may have suspected that Marty's parents would figure things out for themselves, and to prevent them from questioning an unknowing Marty A about it, he spilled the beans so as to protect the future past.