Law & Order Los Angeles: FTW or WTF?

When I saw that Telltale had announced Law and Order, I was a bit worried about Telltale. These guys are going to work themselves into the ground if thay don't slow down soon. I'd rather have one or two good series a year than five back to back new and not-guaranteed-to-kick-off projects being announced every week or so.

Other than that, though, seriously, Telltale? Law and Order Los Angeles? I might understand a game based on the original show, but a spinoff that not a lot of people watch or care about? That's just going a little too far in my book.

I was never really a fan of the original show, but my parents watch it ALL THE FRICKIN' TIME! Looking at all these CSI-style shows they watch make me notice an odd pattern:
  • The Actors are either over the top or too subtle
  • Everything that happens is always either completely random or extremely predictable
  • All of the main characters could be interchanged with each other and nobody would notice the difference
  • and they talk WAY too quietly.

So, what do you think, guys?

Is Telltale getting in over their heads, going the right pace, or not doing things fast enough? And, as for the game, do you think it will be good, bad or just meh? Please explain.
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  • edited April 2011
    I love law and order I love telltale :) so this is great news for me!
  • edited April 2011
    Other than that, though, seriously, Telltale? Law and Order Los Angeles? I might understand a game based on the original show, but a spinoff that not a lot of people watch or care about? That's just going a little too far in my book.

    Seriously? It's a law and order spinoff; in other words, it prints money.
    I was never really a fan of the original show,
    This is not humanly possible.
    but my parents watch it ALL THE FRICKIN' TIME! Looking at all these CSI-style shows they watch make me notice an odd pattern:
    • The Actors are either over the top or too subtle
    • Everything that happens is always either completely random or extremely predictable
    • All of the main characters could be interchanged with each other and nobody would notice the difference
    • and they talk WAY too quietly.
    Procedural shows sort of call for Hammy acting or nobody actors, and the entire point is you can guess what happened before it unfolds.

    Also, how on earth did you not see the Law and Order forums I mean really

    Is Telltale getting in over their heads, going the right pace, or not doing thins fast enough? And as for the game do you think it will be good, bad or just meh? Please explain.[/QUOTE]
  • edited April 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    Seriously? It's a law and order spinoff; in other words, it prints money.

    index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=912;preview
    Ribs wrote: »
    This is not humanly possible.

    Screw being Human, I HAVE SUPERPOWERS!
    Ribs wrote: »
    Procedural shows sort of call for Hammy acting or nobody actors, and the entire point is you can guess what happened before it unfolds.

    But what's the fun of watching a show if you know what's going to happen?
    Ribs wrote: »
    Also, how on earth did you not see the Law and Order forums I mean really

    Whoops. GURU!!! Need some help here!
  • edited April 2011
    I hope it has Pre Order extras! Like a disc and case files.
  • edited April 2011
    coolsome wrote: »
    I hope it has Pre Order extras! Like a disc and case files.

    Law & Preorder? Eh? Eh??
  • edited April 2011
    ShaggE wrote: »
    Law & Preorder? Eh? Eh??

    The only reason you're getting away with that one is because you joined in '06.
  • edited April 2011
    I only liked Law and Order when Jeff Goldblum came into the picture. Cause I like Jeff Goldblum. Wasn't a big fan of the show till he came around. But that didn't last long.
  • edited April 2011
    The only reason you're getting away with that one is because you joined in '06.

    Awww yeah, constabulary immunity! *struts*

    I, uh... I mean, it won't happen again, Ms. Ten.

    *quietly struts in private*
  • edited April 2011
    I don't care if it's being developed by Telltale. I wouldn't care if it was being developed by Nintendo. When I hear "Law and Order video game", I think "shovelware." =/
  • edited April 2011
    Honestly, I can't stand any Law and Order show, so this is like a very bad idea to me. But I know people love it so more power to them. Verdict: Meh.
  • edited April 2011
    Remolay wrote: »
    Honestly, I can't stand any Law and Order show, so this is like a very bad idea to me. But I know people love it so more power to them. Verdict: Meh.

    Couldn't agree with you more.
  • edited April 2011
    Other: unsure.

    Not meh, just unsure because it remains to be seen whether L&O:LA will be akin to CSI:.
    If this is so, then "meh."
  • edited April 2011
    Whoa....what the heck? Where did this come from? At any rate I'm totally uninterested in Law & Order.
  • edited April 2011
    I just watched the first episode of Law and Order: LA I really liked it It didn't let the franchise down and now I rly wana play this game and hope we get a trailer of it soon.
  • edited April 2011
    Don't get me wrong, I like all 3 CSI: shows, and have mild interest in Law & Order, but the CSI: games are not as interesting to me as watching the shows (ie. the CSI: games are "meh.") Therefore, if the LO:LA game is as much the same, then it is also meh.
  • jmmjmm
    edited April 2011
    My two cents:

    This is another game that I will not be getting, even if it doesn't end up being shovelware, I can't stand the L&O franchise altogether.

    What got me worried, even before this announcement, was Telltale's getting a jaw larger than Max's (Maybe they're aiming for Jaws: The Game).
    The problem I have with that is quality, which has been lacking at least with the latest releases

    Anyway, I don't want to turn this thread into a *whining* thread (too late)

    My final analysis is:
    1. I don't like L&O -> I won't buy a game based on it
    2. Telltale is on the verge of a major crash & burn given the amount of licenses they're working on, the lack of improvement on gameplay (and puzzles!) and the diminishing polish the games are getting.
  • edited April 2011
    I did play one of the CSI games on Xbox out of curiosity (never seen the show. I don't watch tv.)

    Excitement! Danger! Comedy! Intrigue! Drama and heartbreak!
    It was none of these things.

    Wikipedia lists CSI as a Crime Drama... but the characters of the show didn't really provide any story or drama. It had the emotional weight of a Hidden Object game.
    Law & Order is described as a police procedural-legal drama, so I'll expect the same here.

    I'm of the opinion that anything Telltale games makes is gold, but probably only because I pretend these TV Drama games don't exist. :)

    These "TV Drama" games could just as easily have been made by any other company out there and they always end up in those bins at the store next to 2,000 Solitaire games, Bejeweled, and 20 variations of Mahjong or casino games. Since they don't stand out, I don't really consider them "Telltale" games.

    Telltale's gotta pay the bills to make all those other great games.
  • edited April 2011
    Am I the only one happy about the Law and Order game!? Cos there seems to be a massive backlash agiasnt TTG for doing it pretty much every comment about it.
  • edited April 2011
    coolsome wrote: »
    Am I the only one happy about the Law and Order game!? Cos there seems to be a massive backlash agiasnt TTG for doing it pretty much every comment about it.

    Aw, they're just miffed that it's not CSI: Ponyland..... :D
    (and that there are unlikely to be any islands with monkeys on in it, either)
  • edited April 2011
    It could very well be FTW but my first reaction was WTF in general. So many projects I fear there could be a slight drop in quality.
  • edited April 2011
    Telltale is very quickly doing a superb job of transforming from premier adventure-game producer to premier shovel-ware producer. WTF Telltale?!
  • edited April 2011
    I don't like Law and Order so this game will not appeal to my interest also no one else will like it either. WTF Telltale?!

    I'm tired of people acting like Telltale has dropped in quality. Telltale to this day have only produced one lackluster game, and that was Poker Night due to a slew of bugs and next to no incentive to keep playing, but it was fun for what it was. If none of the new projects appeal to you, that's wonderful but they don't appeal to you. Not the general population, but you. I, for one, am excited for each title coming up (possibly excluding Hector, but I'll still try it). Law and Order is one of my favorite programs on TV, although I will be the first to admit that it's been on the decline recently due to increased violence.
  • edited April 2011
    I think the games will be their usual quality so long as they have the staff to work on them. Wern't they recruiting at some conferance a few months back? I mean.... if they're expanding the size of the company it makes sence to take on a bigger worldload.

    Anywho, these guys haven't let me down yet. I have faith. :)
  • edited April 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    I'm tired of people acting like Telltale has dropped in quality. Telltale to this day have only produced one lackluster game, and that was Poker Night due to a slew of bugs and next to no incentive to keep playing, but it was fun for what it was. If none of the new projects appeal to you, that's wonderful but they don't appeal to you. Not the general population, but you.

    This! TTG hasn't even released any trailers or pics of the game yet and people are acting as if its a rushed game cos they have to many projects.
    Originally Posted by ChrisLaughlin
    I don't like Law and Order so this game will not appeal to my interest also no one else will like it either. WTF Telltale?!

    Obviously you haven't been reading the L&O forum I couldn't be happier with this announcement. So don't speak for me or anyone else in the forum! Everybody here is perfectly capable of stating if they like it or not we don't need you deciding what we like or disliked.
  • edited April 2011
    coolsome wrote: »
    This! TTG hasn't even released any trailers or pics of the game yet and people are acting as if its a rushed game cos they have to many projects.



    Obviously you haven't been reading the L&O forum I couldn't be happier with this announcement. So don't speak for me or anyone else in the forum! Everybody here is perfectly capable of stating if they like it or not we don't need you deciding what we like or disliked.

    Erm... I edited his post in the quote to exaggerate his points a bit.
  • edited April 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    Erm... I edited his post in the quote to exaggerate his points a bit.

    Oh...well that makes me look down right stupid then :p
  • edited April 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    Erm... I edited his post in the quote to exaggerate his points a bit.

    Yeah, that was a pretty dang uncool thing of you to do. Please don't do it again.

    I love Telltale and have bought every single game they've ever released, but both the new Poker Night at the Inventory and BTTF games have felt seriously, seriously lacking, in my opinion, and I'm genuinely hopeful their new games will be better. In light of the recent decline in quality, I would prefer that they focus on producing a small number of extremely good, highly polished titles than a bunch of mediocre titles. So far I don't feel that the NBC-Universal license has had a positive impact on Telltale as a company.
  • edited April 2011
    So far the majority of votes seems to be focusing mainly around "Slow down" and "WTF Telltale." Who knew that forumites could be so hateful?
  • edited April 2011
    Other, as I'm cautiously optimistic that it's Telltale, but I'm expecting it to be dismal because video game adaptations of Law & Order-type shows generally seem to suck. I DO love the original Law & Order (though I can't really stand any of the spinoffs I've seen), so here's to hoping it'll be fanfreakingtastic.
  • edited April 2011
    So far the majority of votes seems to be focusing mainly around "Slow down" and "WTF Telltale." Who knew that forumites could be so hateful?

    If you ask for patches many times, if you ask for localizations many times, if you ask for xbox conversions many times, and all you have is a new game of Law&Order, it's normal to be hateful.

    Personally I've asked many times about localizations or translations. It's been two years since TOMI and no sign of Italian language at all. TWO YEARS. And the same for all the games they did. I asked about that many times and one or two times I got their usual answer: "we are trying to do everything". Yeah. And then nothing. And nothing. And still nothing.
    I asked many times to be clear about that. But maybe Telltale is open to their fans only by facade.

    And it's the same for patches or xbox conversions.
  • edited April 2011
    Personally I've asked many times about localizations or translations. It's been two years since TOMI and no sign of Italian language at all. TWO YEARS. And the same for all the games they did. I asked about that many times and one or two times I got their usual answer: "we are trying to do everything". Yeah. And then nothing. And nothing. And still nothing.
    I asked many times to be clear about that. But maybe Telltale is open to their fans only by facade.

    So, what? They're supposed to provide translations and voice-acting in Italian now too, for the handful of people who speak Italian?
    Personally I'd rather have them focus on their new productions instead of devoting resources to unnecessary translations of their existing games.
    That, and the game would lose the majority of its jokes anyway with a translation into foreign languages and it would become a second-rate product.
  • edited April 2011
    caeska wrote: »
    Personally I'd rather have them focus on their new productions instead of devoting resources to unnecessary translations of their existing games.
    QUOTE]

    If TT says this would be ok.
    But TT doesn't even say this, and leave us in a limbo without proper answers.
    Just tell us: are they working on translations? Are they working on a patch for BTTF or Poker Night? Are they going to publish on Xbox again?
    I tell you the standard answer: "We're trying to reach the wider audience possible". So, no specific answer.

    (BTW, proper translations include jokes, 90% of them can be translated correctly. And Spanish is the biggest language in the world, but don't tell TT this!)
  • edited April 2011
    Never watched Law and Order, never a fan of ANY "police dramas" so far; I just can't sympathize with any of the characters because I never wanted to be a cop I guess.

    All I can leave here is a personal point. This license is, so far, the fourth one that I have NO interest in. I won't buy the games or drop any ideas about them on forums. This is merely disappointing. I'd like to see titles with more surreal settings, which were associated by Telltale back in the day but I guess, not anymore.

    I be crawlin' in my Sam and Max forums now.
  • edited April 2011
    (BTW, proper translations include jokes, 90% of them can be translated correctly. And Spanish is the biggest language in the world, but don't tell TT this!)

    Erm... isn't that Mandarin?
  • edited April 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    Erm... isn't that Mandarin?

    According to Torchwood it is.
  • edited April 2011
    (BTW, proper translations include jokes, 90% of them can be translated correctly. And Spanish is the biggest language in the world, but don't tell TT this!)

    That would be Mandarin, actually.

    Also, forgive me if I don't know the full story or anything, but since you seem to know English why not just, you know...play the English version? Or have you been pumping this whole thread into Google Translate?
  • edited April 2011
    Or have you been pumping this whole thread into Google Translate?

    Are you using such tricky words intentionally? Because I'm sure as hell Google will take that one word so literally it'll warp the entire sentence out of its predesired meaning.
  • edited April 2011
    Falanca wrote: »
    Are you using such tricky words intentionally?

    He has my contrafibularities.
  • edited April 2011
    That would be Mandarin, actually.

    Also, forgive me if I don't know the full story or anything, but since you seem to know English why not just, you know...play the English version? Or have you been pumping this whole thread into Google Translate?

    It's not for me: one is for my dad (he likes so much Monkey Island :) ), other copies (of TOMI and S&M season 3) I'd like to give, gift and suggest to friends and collegues that work with me. I usually told them how nice the games are, and it's a pity that they can't buy them because they're english only and - after 2 years - Telltale doesn't give a single word about *IF EVER* will be a translation.

    These lacks of communications on language, patch and console portings, along with rushed, raw and bugged episodes, are the double edge sword that could (will?) kill Telltale. Expecially now that they're trying to make "The Big Jump".
  • edited April 2011
    It's not for me: one is for my dad (he likes so much Monkey Island :) ), other copies (of TOMI and S&M season 3) I'd like to give, gift and suggest to friends and collegues that work with me. I usually told them how nice the games are, and it's a pity that they can't buy them because they're english only and - after 2 years - Telltale doesn't give a single word about *IF EVER* will be a translation.

    Yeah, but if you don't speak English in this day and age, then that severely limits which entertainment products you can enjoy. Not all computer games get translated AFAIK, and even if they do it takes time for it to happen. You can't blame the developers for that, nor can you expect time and resources to be devoted to that.
    Besides, it's less time consuming to actually learn to speak English, is it not? And more enjoyable since you get to experience movies, TV series and games the way they're meant to.
    Hey, I'm not from and English-speaking country but I learnt alot from playing text-adventure games when I was a kid. And Monkey Island!
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