What you would change about Episode 3
!Spoilers!!
-Why Carly WHYYYYYY!! Telltale your such a tease. Have a huge romance with Carly, have that soft music playing when you talk to her, have her kiss you on the cheek and tell you she thinks about you and than what? lets just remove her from the story. Not to mention she was really becoming a part of the family (aka lee and clem)
-Also, katjaa ! You didnt have to rip out my heart telltale with carly than just completely ... im at a loss of words.
-And finally I wish lilly stayed with the group, hopefully we'll see her again but doubt it... I feel like she could of redeemed herself of something.
- A funny yet serious one, when you were walking around the train trying to get it started and the FREAKING ZOMBIE WOULDNT SHUP UP !!!! WTF! and than chuck with his guitar later but atleast that wasnt terrible to listen to on repeat for a solid 10 minutes.
If you know me, you would know I guaranteed Doug/Carlys death/departure before the episode, and I dont mind the way she was killed but why!!
:(:(
Overall, brilliant episode telltale, and not to take away from it at all but I wished they did just a few things differently...
Please comment with what you think or better yet wish could of happened to make the episode better
-Why Carly WHYYYYYY!! Telltale your such a tease. Have a huge romance with Carly, have that soft music playing when you talk to her, have her kiss you on the cheek and tell you she thinks about you and than what? lets just remove her from the story. Not to mention she was really becoming a part of the family (aka lee and clem)
-Also, katjaa ! You didnt have to rip out my heart telltale with carly than just completely ... im at a loss of words.
-And finally I wish lilly stayed with the group, hopefully we'll see her again but doubt it... I feel like she could of redeemed herself of something.
- A funny yet serious one, when you were walking around the train trying to get it started and the FREAKING ZOMBIE WOULDNT SHUP UP !!!! WTF! and than chuck with his guitar later but atleast that wasnt terrible to listen to on repeat for a solid 10 minutes.
If you know me, you would know I guaranteed Doug/Carlys death/departure before the episode, and I dont mind the way she was killed but why!!
:(:(Overall, brilliant episode telltale, and not to take away from it at all but I wished they did just a few things differently...
Please comment with what you think or better yet wish could of happened to make the episode better
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Right??? I just commented on another thread but I dont understand why we couldnt yell to her have her outrun the walkers and still have time for some supplies and head off. Could of replaced carly with a charatcer in everyones game.
Edit: The option to leave Omid and whatever the hell that other thing is behind.
I think someones jumping the ship here, we just met them and I dont think there is any reason to not trust them as of right now.
Yes. Just Yes.:D
I agree, its a sausage party. And christa looks like a dude so doesnt count. Personally I dont get why TT made such a "sad" ending, not saying I didnt love every second of the episode but why just WHY couldnt carly survive. DANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
I'd love for TTG to come to the forum and openly say . "We realized Doug and Carley were going to complicate things by staying alive so we made a contrived excuse to kill them off to save ourselves room for the big Decisions you will make in episode four that we only have to carry into episode five. In Conclusion They died so Episode four and five can be awesome . Their sacrifice will not be in vain."
haha so true, maybe we will get to pick btw Omid and Christa. it would be funny if ttg is trolling us and we see a Carly/Doug walker (with the one we picked ofcourse) in the next episode just to tell us we could of let them stick around but nahhh
To be honest instead of Duck surviving I would like Katjaa and Duck to die as normal but I would have liked for Mark to be introduced in Episode 1 as that would make his death more surprising and have more of an impact and to have a new female character introduced in Episode 2 who survives into at least Episode 4 with the group. It would be good if she contrasts with Christa a bit as well.
Anyways I would have probably changed Carley's death, maybe make it into a choice where you choose to kick one out (Carley/Doug or Ben), but oh well. Still would of preferred if Carley were to stay: she was the most loyal towards Lee and usually had the best out looks on the situations, compared to everyone else who were usually arguing (Kenny and Lilly), complained but really did nothing to change the situation (Larry and Mark), too passive (Katja and Doug to an extent, but he also fits into the Carley category), or overall just don't have a voice within the group one way or another, for some simply because they choose not to speak up. (Ben, Clementine, and Duck)
Overall I'd say Carley was sort of the voice of reason, along with Katja, and with the two of them gone the group is going to twirl done even farther into dehumanization. I'd defend Doug more, I only really spent time with him in Episode 1, then he died, but if I remember correctly he simply followed orders and really didn't speak up unless he needed too, while Carley constantly has Lee thinking about morale choices he makes.
So yes, I'd probably say change the killing off Carley and Doug to the last episode, so their characters could have fleshed out better and we would have had a more emotional impact after seeing them gone, as all the characters essentially acted five minutes later like it didn't even happen. (Well they didn't appear phased that someone in their group killed their own for essentially no good reason...)
I think we can all agree there are more pros than cons if more survived. personally i think if just duck died and lilly left it still would of been great. kenny would have katjaa and carly/doug can remain that character that lee trusts the most. this is not to say the episode isnt perfect but i think it had potential to be better.
I completely agree, tt didnt really give us enough time to get to know chuck, omid or christa... so i really just dont like the vibe from the current group. i think having carly/doug OR lilly still would add to the plot
Kenny: "Oh thanks for doing that for Duck."
Or Omid
"Why'd you pick Christa first over me!?"
It's nothing too dynamic in a game the choices are tailored by how we play. Carley and Doug had extremely good potential, now they're gone. Gone before anything really major could be established from either of them.
Sorry for the lack of Doug, I've only played up till the end of episode two with him.
yep like you said, and as i was discussing in another thread the choices make only minor differences which is something that will change dramatically in 4 nd 5 since there are only two episodes left. the decision as to who to save, carly or doug seemed to be the only choice that carried significant weight into other episodes
Yeah honestly from the trailer I was really hoping we'd get to choose between Omid and Crista and then have two different determinant characters, sorta like our own survival group made. Nope, we don't get that all. Could've be great too, maybe have love triangle between Crista, Lee and Carley? Who knows, wasted potential.
i actually saw a love triangle with lee lilly nd carly... i thought lilly offed her and intentionally accused her than when she shot her and saw how angry lee was she knew lee loved carly, not her. the "will you come with me" was just a last ditch effort in which 99% said no... is that safe to say haha?
but she blames Doug too.
It's because it's the third episode. I have my own literary term for it. I call it "The valley of depression". Episode 1 is fine, kinda sad but not too bad. Episode 2 starts off sad and just goes down hill from there. Then Episode 3 starts off real bad and just gets sadder and sadder. So, after all that, there's no way but up....
right?!?
more like the check mark of depression at best
Right...I think...Im trying to see how they could make it more sad in the next episode but I honestly cant think of anything. Kenny has lost everything so his death although obviously sad wouldnt be near as sad as it was for katjaa or duck. I dont care what happens to Ben, not saying he is as bad as everyone says he is but he really hasnt done anything for the group he usually just stands there. Chuck, we just met and seems like a nice guy but lets be honest- his death wont be sad since he is leaving nothing behind. As for Christa and Omid, well they could develop them through episode 4 than make a heart breaking tradgedy at the end but if anything happens to them based off of episode 3, it really wouldnt be sad.
God forbid but the only thing that would really give telltale the win in this staring contest of sadness is if something happened to clem or lee...
I would of done anything to keep Carly around honestly since she was the only level headed one in the group who I really trusted besides clem. Alas, it would take telltale DOUBLE the amount of time to make and develop a whole other story if doug/carly stuck around. So i guess it the realm of it being "just a video game" it was for the benefit of the game I would of liked carly to die in a different matter where we could have an emotional burial or something but whatevvvvs
I think Clem would of liked a younger sister! haha no but seriously they were in a motel, the single place on earth where scandals happen and better yet in the zombie apocalypse!! I think lee and carly have done it just in between the time of episodes. I find it hard to believe they didnt. It seems everyone in the group knew they were fond of eachother
I actually thought to leave her alive for the walkers as a distraction for Kenny and myself before Kenny even suggested it! Harsh to be sure, but tactically the wise decision!
And when Katjaa took Duck off into the woods, I thought "she's going to kill herself" so when we heard the shot and walked up and saw it, it really wasnt a shock, but still a "WOW" moment!
I also sensed katjaa was going to kill herself. Just by the way she said, duck is my whole life. idk if you told katjaa that you were a convict but I did and than told her what happened in the meat locker with larry and she replied "everythings changed"... so I think she saw how Kenny has changed into a terrible human. Just one note about the suicide, how did she get the gun...didnt kenny have it? I find it hard to believe unless he put the gun down for some reason that she quickly grabbed it fast enough from him.
I don't recall seeing Kenny give Katjaa the gun, but I kinda figured that's what happened. I guess some things are just implied that maybe just don't need to be shown.
I mean, that scene was about Kat and Duck and Kenny dealing with that situation, not about how did Kat get the gun!
Also: what was the consequence of the steal decision in Episode 2. Is there any?
There were a few other strange quirks, some minor animation problems, some odd dialogue, mostly near the beginning, but overall, great episode.
I get it we all want to kill Lily after what she did to Carley..but killing her in front of Clem and the others especially after you told them you murdered someone doesn't go too well...
In 3rd person view if i was in the group and Lee came to me after all what happened and told me he murdered someone, i guess i would freak a bit but frankly glad for his honesty.....now after telling me that and killing Lily i would not be able to trust the guy at all
Killing Carley cool! (Well not cool lol) I actually cared! I was devastated and looking forward to doing a replay of the whole series! That is until I checked the forums and realized that Doug dies the EXACT same way there was nothing you could do about it and all they choices you made with the Lilly Sprite amounted to... "CORE CONTENT".... "Look you tried to help my dad don't think I will forget that..." "CORE CONTENT... No choices effect my actions... CORE CONTENT"
To bad Tell Tale I thought you guys really had something special here. Great writing for the most part however I wont be paying for any of your episodes this season unless 4 and 5 really impress me. Hopefully season 2 will learn from season 1s short falls and I will purchase that one...
R.I.P. Dead Sprites...