Do you love or hate Kenny ?

edited June 2013 in The Walking Dead
Ok theres been alot of controversy surounding Kenny some people Love him (like me) and some people hate him (like my brother) so ive created this poll so we have some oficial results his he hated or loved amongst fans ?
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  • edited June 2013
    I am one of the bigger Kenny supporters on this forums, To me he kind of reminds me of my best friend, loyal and nice to me, but kind of neutral to everyone else.
  • edited June 2013
    I guess it depends on how you played the game and how your choices affected Kenny. I have one playthrough where I sided with Kenny throughout the entire game, and I liked him when he said he would help me look for Clem with no hesitation. On another playthrough though, I was against Kenny during the entire game and I guess I didn't like him so much for other little things throughout the game. So I guess I'm neutral now.
  • edited June 2013
    In the begining (ep 1) I loved him. After ep 2 he starts annoying, but in the end I began to admire of him, after he forgives of Ben. Only strong man can forgive everything. His death was the most dumb thing in this game. Added up all these emotions, I can conclude that I am neutral.
  • edited June 2013
    Fairly netural towards him. I don't outright hate him, but I don't particular care for his bad attitude either.

    I'd like him more if he didn't leave me in serious danger a few times because I didn't consistently agree with his actions, despite me saving his life a good few times regardless of how I felt towards him. Not wanting to look for Clementine because he had a grudge against me regardless of how much I tried to help him didn't do any favours either.
  • edited June 2013
    I'd say I love Kenny, we were bros in my first game. But, then again, how you feel about Kenny depends on your choices in your main playthrough mostly. Aside from Lee's, I found his "death" (let's keep hope alive people!) the saddest. Especially since I said I'd go alone at the end of Episode 4, and he wouldn't let me.
  • edited June 2013
    I told them I should go alone as I did not want them to die, but his persistence and the bro speech just made me smile, and I agree his possible death is sad, the one with Ben to me was sadder but it's because it's the one I got first.
  • edited June 2013
    I'm in team Kenny. :D
    Of course he had his issues, but if you were a good friend to him, he returned the favor, and that is all that matters. If things go to shit you can count on him.
  • edited June 2013
    I liked him in episode one, indifferent in the beginning of episode two, skeptical / somewhat angry at Kenny at the end of the episode, hated him in episode three, despised him and wanted him dead in episode four, and really liked him in episode five.

    I'm in the middle I guess? I really thought he was a really solid character in episode five.
  • edited June 2013
    TomI021 I think should do the same type of thread here but make it a poll on how many like Lilly, I want to know how many people like her and hate her and I am pretty sure the results will be different.
  • edited June 2013
    Me and Kenny became bros the moment we met I still remember my reaction when I first saw him I said "Nice moustache dude" *sigh* memories. I sided with Kenny in every single choice even in conversation but the only time I ever sided against him was when I refused to drop Ben but I only saved him because Clem liked him so if Clem hated Ben I probably would have dropped him. I'm sad that I didn't get the bro speech at the end of episode 4 but I won Kenny back by pulling out the 'family card' and he was the only one who came with me to search for Clem because I hid the bite. I felt so happy talking to Kenny on the roof and when I missed the jump from the bell tower he pulled me up and he cut my arm off. When you think about it those weren't our best moments. I talked him down on the train, I was there for him when his family died, I did everything for him. Anyway lets get to the point since this post has gone on to long so after everything said, I have voted that I.... Hate Kenny. I'm joking of course I'm joking I voted that I love Kenny. We are bros for life even after his death.
  • edited June 2013
    *Kenny Bro-fist* Funny the first time I met him I said nice shirt, did you drink with him, because I did in the attic and on the train because it made since at time. strange as I got the bro speech on the first time and I did not steal from the car and did not drop Ben.
  • edited June 2013
    TomI021 I think should do the same type of thread here but make it a poll on how many like Lilly, I want to know how many people like her and hate her and I am pretty sure the results will be different.
    Will do :D
  • edited June 2013
    *Kenny Bro-fist* Funny the first time I met him I said nice shirt, did you drink with him, because I did in the attic and on the train because it made since at time. strange as I got the bro speech on the first time and I did not steal from the car and did not drop Ben.

    *Kenny bro-fist* to you too and yes I did drink with him on the train and in the attic because I just thought "He'll yea lets get drunk, I'm gonna die soon". That's weird you saved Ben and did not steal from the car but you got the bro speech What the hell Kenny! Why no give me bro speech! And once again *Kenny Brofist-fist* I am punching my monitor
  • edited June 2013
    Kenny was my friend.. We went through hell and had each others backs.
    Gonna miss him and that badass mustache.
  • edited June 2013
    The stashe of greatness, there is a reason every RPG I find were I can have a mustache and were a hat I name him Kenny, that stashe is now copyrighted as a Kenny mustache.
  • edited June 2013
    Kenny was the only one who had the right idea. "Shit's fucked, let's get hammered!" I wish he'd given me some of that hootch in Episode 4, I took every opportunity I could to get Lee wasted.

    And he probably didn't give you the bro speech because you disagreed with him on more than 2 things. It seems to be that, as long as you help him kill Larry, you can side against Kenny twice and still get the bro speech. Getting the bro speech on your first playthrough is, like, the best thing. After nearly 4 months of surviving together, Kenny, the only one with me from the start of it all, refused to let me go alone, even after I told him I'd been bitten. I wish there'd been a "Bro Fist" option in that dialogue.
  • edited June 2013
    I also wanted to get Lee wasted at every opportunity. I differently agreed with him at every choice (apart from Ben) I don't get it I'm so confused I did everything saved duck, defended Kenny, gave him food, gave Duck food, agreed with him in conversation when Lilly and him were arguing, help kill Larry, stole from car, agreed with him in conversation about leaving the motor inn, left the girl in the street, told him about my past, talked him down on the train, let him shoot Duck, sided with him in conversation when talking to Christa, killed the boy in the attic, hid the bite, brought him with me etc did I miss anything. Anyway did I do something wrong I really wanted that bro speech
  • edited June 2013
    When did this playthrough happen because it if was back in November then maybe it was a glitch, but then again he told me we were friends in October so I have no idea, by the way which choice was it hardest to agree with Kenny, mine would be shoot the girl as I knew he was right but it was still hard to no help.
  • edited June 2013
    It may have been shooting Duck. I elected to shoot Duck for him, and let him kill the child in the attic. In my first playthrough, I didn't steal from the car and shot the girl in the street, but still got the bro speech. I agreed with him on everything else, or at least chose the side he agreed with.

    And I'd have to say that the hardest thing to agree with him on is the meat locker. Hardest choice in the entire game for me.
  • edited June 2013
    It was so difficult so I waited until the last second, I used to be unsure if I made the right choice but After Lilly killed Carley I know I did the right thing, that and I believe he was turning.
  • edited June 2013
    Hate is too strong a word, but Kenny is a flawed character. Like Lilly, you either follow him without question or you are less than garbage to him- neither one deals in being resonable or rational. His wife and child are the most important things in the world (to him) and he is shameless about getting others on his side to act as meatshields for them. Kenny's primary reason for keeping the group together is that it acts as more interference for his family, nothing else.
    Still dont hate him though
  • edited June 2013
    Kenny....i guess I'm neutral about him. I disagreed on many of his choices, but i never hated him for any of them. I can't say i love someone who would leave companions to die over a grudge, either. He's a good guy, and i wanted to be his friend...but our differences just kept pushing that back. By the end of episode 5, though... he was a hero in my eyes.

    His main flaw was that he protected his family too much, it blinded him from many dangers and what's really important, staying together. Post-episode 5 Kenny is(or would have been) a Kenny i could side with in any situation, and we'd have each others' backs 'til the end.
  • edited June 2013
    When did this playthrough happen because it if was back in November then maybe it was a glitch, but then again he told me we were friends in October so I have no idea, by the way which choice was it hardest to agree with Kenny, mine would be shoot the girl as I knew he was right but it was still hard to no help.

    Like Rock114 said killing Larry was a hard thing to do but Kenny depended on me and I thought it was to much of a risk. I can't remember when the play through was my memory is that bad. Also deciding about Duck's fate was a hard thing to do I really liked the kid, I didn't know what to do to so I decided to let Kenny do it he was his dad after all.
  • edited June 2013
    I'm ambivalent. I think he was an interesting character, but I was always at odds with him by the end of episode 2. I saw him as someone who valued his family and those he felt he could rely on, but was prone to give in to violent spitefulness and hypocrisy.

    So I commend that the story was able to make me strongly dislike and genuinely pity him within the same story arc.
  • edited June 2013
    Well... I think those familiar with me know my position. Kenny was well-written, well developed, and just a great character! Whether you loved to love or hate him, he played his part well. I was almost always on Kenny's side, although after episode 2 we had some problems. However, we still remained bros and he continues to be tied for my third favorite character of the game (Running with Carley).

    I could easily connect to Kenny and his thought process, so I didn't get mad at the stuff he did. I respect that he put his family first, in truth that is what a man should do. He wasn't a coward, nor was he a liar; If he hated you he said it straight to your face. I understood why he would leave you, for I too would think that of a friend who risked everyone's lives in a meat locker to save someone EVERYONE didn't like and while my family was in trouble? Hell, I'd probably drop that salt lick on Lee's head(sorry Lee). Granted, the man had mistakes, but that made him human. He lost just as much, if not more, than everyone in the group. He lost his wife and child, and his entire family(as we know), his life was ruined, some in the group betray him, and (maybe) lost his life for another.

    I think Kenny was awesome, and if he could come back, that would be incredible! I'm just glad my Lee and Kenny were truly friends again by the middle/end of episode 4.
  • edited June 2013
    I can't say I'd understand Kenny leaving Lee to die over a grudge, because I wouldn't do that. That is a negative aspect of Kenny, but it's one of the things that makes him human. It's a flaw. Kenny is a flawed man, which is what makes him so realistic and a great character. Always putting his family ahead is his failing, and it's too bad he didn't realize that himself until after they'd died. Hell, I even got pissed at him for the first half of Episode 3 because he was remorseless over what he and I did to Larry. I left the food in the car and shot the girl in the street just because he would disagree. He never even thought of Lilly's feelings about what happened, which is one of the few things I actually dislike about him.

    Though I agree he is a well written and fantastic character! I feel that his character arc was second only to those of Lee and Clem, and I really hope that he made it out okay.
  • edited June 2013
    I'd say I love Kenny, we were bros in my first game.
  • edited June 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    It may have been shooting Duck. I elected to shoot Duck for him, and let him kill the child in the attic. In my first playthrough, I didn't steal from the car and shot the girl in the street, but still got the bro speech. I agreed with him on everything else, or at least chose the side he agreed with.

    And I'd have to say that the hardest thing to agree with him on is the meat locker. Hardest choice in the entire game for me.

    It might be shooting Duck. Maybe Kenny didn't give me the bro speech because he was sought of forced into shooting his own son I just thought Kenny shooting Duck was the right thing to do. But Kenny told me in episode 5 on the roof of the hospital (he was the only person there) that he was glad that he "saved him from it all" referring to Duck. I killed the boy in the attic because I didn't want Kenny to do something like that twice. I don't know why he didn't give me the bro speech but I give up. It doesn't matter he still came with me to search for Clem.
  • edited June 2013
    Well, I shot Duck and let Kenny kill the boy in the attic, and he said that he couldn't thank me enough for doing what I did for Duck, and sparing him the pain.
  • edited June 2013
    I shot Duck and killed the boy in the attic for him, I believe it's a negative if you make him do both.
  • edited June 2013
    Yes it is negative if you make him do both. So I have come to the conclusion that it was probably Kenny shooting Duck that caused Kenny to hate me. It's a small hunch.
  • edited June 2013
    You might want to try that, if that works that may have been the problem.
  • edited June 2013
    I was in episode one but when he killed Lilly's dad, stealing from the car, leaving me to die again and again, saying we should leave ben and most of all not helping me save a nine year old girl just because me an him didn't get along. yeah sure some of the cruel stuff he did was justified but nothing justified leaving clem in danger because we had a lot of fights
  • edited June 2013
    You might want to try that, if that works that may have been the problem.

    I would if game hadn't been deleted and now I can't re open it or download it again. Anyway thanks for the help trying to figure out why Kenny didn't give me the bro speech. Thanks to you to Rock114
  • edited June 2013
    most of all not helping me save a nine year old girl just because me an him didn't get along.

    Well, quite. I think that was a little out of character though.

    Across the whole series he was completely unpredictable, veering from gung-ho to cowardly at the drop of a hat and having violent emotional outbursts about stuff he wouldn't hesitate to do himself.

    I had a reasonably positive view of him until I came to think about it from the perspective of a whole series. Mostly he's too unstable for likability to matter, and by the time I had nobody else but Omid and Christa they were really making him look bad with their easy-going nature and collected reliability.
  • edited June 2013
    Kenny is the ultimate bro.
  • edited June 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I can't say I'd understand Kenny leaving Lee to die over a grudge, because I wouldn't do that. That is a negative aspect of Kenny, but it's one of the things that makes him human. It's a flaw. Kenny is a flawed man, which is what makes him so realistic and a great character. Always putting his family ahead is his failing, and it's too bad he didn't realize that himself until after they'd died. Hell, I even got pissed at him for the first half of Episode 3 because he was remorseless over what he and I did to Larry. I left the food in the car and shot the girl in the street just because he would disagree. He never even thought of Lilly's feelings about what happened, which is one of the few things I actually dislike about him.

    Though I agree he is a well written and fantastic character! I feel that his character arc was second only to those of Lee and Clem, and I really hope that he made it out okay.

    I feel he didn't help you in episode 2 is because as Lee throughout the months at the motel Kenny and Lilly fight over how things should be handled, and so you are the tie-breaker. Kenny sees you as his right-hand man, and his friend, and so he looks to you for support. When the meat locker situation goes down, you could have been sitting on the fence or not, it doesn't matter. When the time comes to make the choice, he expects you to side with him, for although it might not be the 'moral' choice, it is the right thing to do in the situation.

    If you side with Lilly, I would probably leave you too if I was Kenny. Think for a second from Kenny's eyes: Your one true friend from this apocalypse, who you saved back at the drugstore even if he was against you, was now putting everyone in the locker at risk, as well as wasting valuable time that could get everyone killed anyway, especially your wife and child who you care about more than yourself. Not to mention it is the same guy who tried to kill your son earlier, and that tried to kill Lee as well. Also, when you needed him most to help you to save everyone, he goes against you to help a woman he hates, a man he hates, and possibly get himself killed from Larry who could turn.

    So yeah, I'd be pissed, especially when you don't feel anything wrong with it. What if Larry turned? What if the time you wasted reviving the old man gave the St. Johns (Who were just coming for everyone when you escaped) enough time to stop the escape plan? What if that wasn't the case, but Larry was now stationary, ill, and unfit to move in the middle of a bad storm and with the horde of zombies coming?

    Had Kenny not 'killed' Larry, there is little chance the group would have made it out alive. Either someone would have been killed getting Larry out, Larry would have died from the walkers overrunning the farm, the St John's would have reached them before they could surprise them, or simply Larry would have eaten them all.

    I don't agree with Kenny leaving Lee for dead, but in truth I can't say I can argue it. The man had some reasoning, even if he wasn't smart enough to see it.
  • edited June 2013
    I'm not saying what Kenny did in the meat locker was wrong, because I agreed with him at the last minute. Especially looking back, I realize that while helping Kenny may not have been the nice thing to do, it was the smart thing. I helped him, and he saved my life from Danny. Then again in the drug store in Episode 3. Him leaving Lee isn't right though. In that scenario, he tells Lee that he will have his back, and that he will step in and help if he is needed. That was Kenny's plan. Then Kenny leaves Lee when Lee expects Kenny to help him, which he expects because that's what Kenny said he would do. Just doing that because Lee didn't agree on a morally ambiguous situation is wrong.

    If he had stepped in and saved Lee from Danny because Lee had been there for Kat and Duck earlier, but gave Lee a big "Fuck you" on the way back to the motel, I'd be fine with that. If he'd just said "I helped you this time, but that was for Kat and Duck. When I needed you, you were ready to fucking let us all die by trying to save that bastard. Next time you need help, you're on your own, jackass." But he just left Lee hanging after explicitly telling him he would help him. That's not cool, no matter the circumstances.
  • edited June 2013
    I kinda find it funny how during the seasons run, people where always complaining about Kenny and how they dislike him just cause he instantly hates you for not siding with him 100% which is why I hate him and always will. I'm glad he's dead, or atleast hope he is.
  • edited June 2013
    I'm still terrified that Telltale is only going to bring Kenny back in season 2 as a zombie, and then put you into a situation where you'd be forced to kill him, just for the hell of it.

    IMO, that would go way beyond "surprising" the player. That would be sadism, plain and simple; a cruel moment added merely to twist the knife. :(
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