Did anyone else feel bad for Toad and Jr?

edited February 2014 in The Wolf Among Us

I know at the beginning Toad was made out to be your typical selfish landlord with a rotten attitude but it is revealed that he does care a lot for his family, and unfortunately for me, I have a terrible weakness for puppy dog eyes, especially on cute little creatures like Toad and Toad Jr. I felt bad about him not being able to afford glamour and I felt terrible for scaring him in the interrogation since he looked so sad and defenseless and then his son came in and he hugged the cute little guy, I mean all he wanted to do was spend the afternoon with the kid. Plus he was willing to get beat up by Bigby and strong-armed for his son since the guys threatened to kill him if he told anyone.

I am likely just a sucker for a good dob story and puppy eyes but I felt really bad for Toad and even worse when I chose the option to slap the guy lol but I did laugh at the whole "Agh! JESUS!" line Also, I know Toad is far from having the worst situation in the cast, I felt the same way for Beauty, then again she did a good job giving you a guilt trip for everything she wanted. I also know that things like poverty and corruption are a huge part of this game so Toad's situation is not special but still, look at those eyes when he is sad! lol

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  • edited February 2014

    Honestly, I can't get a read on Toad yet. Sometimes he's a little shady, but he does seem to really care for his son. That little hug at the end of the interrogation scene in the first episode was such an "awww" moment. And, seriously, TJ's big sad eyes and shy demeanor just pelt me with warm fuzzies every time he turns up. He's freakin' adorable. ( "It has a weevil." )

    I feel bad for them both to be in the situation that they're in. Especially when you think of Toad's backstory and how he used to live in a grand house. You can see a picture of what's presumably Toad Hall on the wall in his apartment.

  • Oh that's true, I wonder if we will get a backstory for some of the characters before coming to fable town, I mean they do a lot of referencing of past events and situations form before coming to fabletown so I hope we get some back story on the events. I mean Toad living in the dump he is in now is sad, hell there are a lot of sad things in this game and all in all the game makes you feel sorry for everyone EXCEPT Bigby, I mean I haven't really seen anything to really make me feel for Bigby yet, but his job is tough I will give him that, and he has done the most to the other fables in the past, I mean he completely maimed one fable.They also make it hard to hate a lot of the characters, Geogie for example, I mean he was a bit of a jerk but not enough to warrant me smashing his stuff and ruining his entire club, he was too amusing lol.It made me feel like more of the bad guy. Also a little off-topic, I really hope to see a depiction of Little Red Riding hood in this game, it would seem like she would be a huge part.

    Honestly, I can't get a read on Toad yet. Sometimes he's a little shady, but he does seem to really care for his son. That little hug at the e

  • I feel bad for Toad JR

    But Toad is just irritating plus he seems a kind of crap parent

  • edited February 2014

    I did at first bit toad makes it real hard for you too like him/feel sorry for him when he's such a cunt too his son/in general infact. But then again he can have his better moments... he's a difficult book too read.

  • I agree, must be tough for him though, he's a single parent, poor and has all the stress of the threats from the guy that raided the woodsman apartment etc.

    I feel bad for Toad JR But Toad is just irritating plus he seems a kind of crap parent

  • edited February 2014

    I try to take it easy on Toad when I can.

    He can act a bit crooked, yelling at his kid along with the whole, "Dad borrows stuff from the people who live here!" comment. But like a lot of the characters, he seems like a decent guy caught up in a crap situation.

  • for T.J perhaps , but not for toad he keeps treating me as if I'm some kind of monster especially after I beat up Dee .

  • edited February 2014

    I think they would really be better off at the Farm, despite what Toad says.

    Junior wouldn't have to hide all the time, could run an play in the open without worrying about being seen, and make a lot of friends.

    If Toad keeps avoiding getting a glamour and I as a Sheriff have to decide wether I close my eyes and let him be at his place or send him to the Farm, I will definitely relocate them. It will be better both for Fabletown's interest and for Toad and Junior.

  • edited February 2014

    "toad he keeps treating me as if I'm some kind of monster "

    " I beat up Dee" gee i wonder why lol :)

    rz1986 posted: »

    for T.J perhaps , but not for toad he keeps treating me as if I'm some kind of monster especially after I beat up Dee .

  • Doesn't major describe the farm as a prison? yeah sounds like a great place for jr.

    I think they would really be better off at the Farm, despite what Toad says. Junior wouldn't have to hide all the time, could run an play i

  • Wait, who is major ?

    Doesn't major describe the farm as a prison? yeah sounds like a great place for jr.

  • To be fair, Dee threatened to hurt TJ. I thought a high-five was in order after I decked him.

    "toad he keeps treating me as if I'm some kind of monster " " I beat up Dee" gee i wonder why lol

  • I would have to agree with Virgil. Toad wasn't at the Farm. Bigby wants the best. And from the comics it looks like Bigby will eventually send Toad and Jr. to the Farm, and it will end quite well.

    Doesn't major describe the farm as a prison? yeah sounds like a great place for jr.

  • No he didn't, that was Dum. Toad keeps saying it was Dee for some reason, but it was clearly Dum.

    Mikejames posted: »

    To be fair, Dee threatened to hurt TJ. I thought a high-five was in order after I decked him.

  • Toad and TJ are awesome, IMO. TJ is just a nice little kid, and even though his dad acts like a piece of shit sometimes, I think he's just trying to protect his son deep down. I wish they weren't involved in shit like this. Especially TJ, since he saw that body and all...

  • You are wrong. Dee admits he was at Toad's. Redo the interrogation. Dee was at Toad's and Dum was at Woody's. Same building, different place.

    Kaihu posted: »

    No he didn't, that was Dum. Toad keeps saying it was Dee for some reason, but it was clearly Dum.

  • Toad obviously cares a lot for Toad Jr, but he acts like a dick sometimes. Like when Jr was telling about when he discovered the body and didn't stay underwater, Toad started yelling at him even though the kid was scared shitless

  • I do feel bad for Toad Jr. which I nick named "Little Slippy Toad." I didn't slap or give Toad any hard time instead I just called him out on all his lies. I mean the two are in a crappy situation and have a threat of death upon them. I'm not going to be a jerk and make things worse for them.

  • I wonder where is Mr.Toad's wife...

  • I don't feel sad for him. Just... I dunno. He's changed his way but everyone still treats him like he's the same old mean Big Bad Wolf. Nobody really seems to appreciate him until he helps them out, and even then they doubt his abilities. By that I mean the reaction Beauty gets when you connect all the evidence in the hotel room. That wasn't praise that was surprise.

    Slow_Dancer posted: »

    Oh that's true, I wonder if we will get a backstory for some of the characters before coming to fable town, I mean they do a lot of referencin

  • In my second save (not my original one) I chose to hit Toad when investigating in his house. Do you know how bad I feel?

  • Sorry not bloody major lol - i ment Collin - (sorry i was thinking of Animal farm at the time)

    Wait, who is major ?

  • edited February 2014

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    I wonder where is Mr.Toad's wife...

  • edited February 2014

    Oh, okay.

    Yes Colin and Toad have negative views of the Farm, doesn't mean it's actually a shitty place.
    They feel insulted to be told that they belong in the Farm because despite having animal appearances they are smart and very human-minded, while a lot (not all) of other animal-looking Fables are more animal-like in their tastes and way of thinking.
    That's why Colin protests in the approximate lines of "I don't belong with these animals !"

    But the Farm is still a nice place to live. In the Comics it has its shitty times now and then, but at this point in Fables timeline everything is fine as far as I remember.

    Colin and Toad disliking the Farm is a matter of pride rather than logical reasons. It would really be a nice environment to raise Junior. If only Toad swallowed his pride, he could see it would be the best solution as long as he can't afford glamours for him and his son.

    Besides, whatever their opinions about the place, there are rules for a good reason. Mundys can't find out about Fables. Some look human already and can move freely in the world and some must remain hidden or get glamous, this is perhaps unfair but one single Fable would be very selfish to put all others at risk just because he prefers the city.

    Sorry not bloody major lol - i ment Collin - (sorry i was thinking of Animal farm at the time)

  • edited February 2014

    Kind of hoping they both get killed off tbh...

  • You know, Bigby, Snow, and the Toad family should all go out to a nice street corner diner to have some tasty vanilla and chocolate frosted-covered milkshakes! Once this all blows over, that is, the meal's on Bigby by the way!

  • And while nobody is looking, Crane and Bluebeard show up and Crane is dressed as Yogi Bear and Bluebeard is dressed as Boo-Boo Bear and they still their dinner, run away and Bigby chases after them.

    You know, Bigby, Snow, and the Toad family should all go out to a nice street corner diner to have some tasty vanilla and chocolate frosted-covered milkshakes! Once this all blows over, that is, the meal's on Bigby by the way!

  • PLOT TWIST.

    And while nobody is looking, Crane and Bluebeard show up and Crane is dressed as Yogi Bear and Bluebeard is dressed as Boo-Boo Bear and they still their dinner, run away and Bigby chases after them.

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