You should be doing a little more research for your timeline ._. The outbreak in the game/comics continuity begins in 2003, I'm not so sure about the novels but I've heard that they don't really adhere to either the continuity of the comics or the TV-Series
I have actually been creating a timeline for the comics, novels, and games using the info given on the Walking Dead wiki, and from my own re… moreading. I am trying to mark it by days similarly to how it is done on the Wiki, or like 400 days.
(little spoiler warning for the comics and novels)
The outbreak began in the summer of 2012, sometime between July 15 to August 15. We know this because Joshua Lee Hamilton, a character from one of the novels (which is set in the same canon as the comics and the games), dies in November of 2012. His story takes place before Rick's group even meets the Governor and Woodbury. (Joshua dies around day 100 or so, while Rick's group meets Woodbury around day 200 something).
As for when it takes place in 2012, I get the July/August months from a special little snippet that was added at the end of the first Walking Dead Compendium. It is a scene of Morgan and Duane around Christmas time, and Morgan says somet… [view original content]
The outbreak in the game/comics continuity begins in 2003, around late July I believe, Episode two of Season 1 takes place in mid to late October (Notice the autumn weather), Episode 3 takes place a week or two after Ep. 2 (thanks to the dialogue between Lee, Kenny and Lily when debating about leaving the Motor Inn), Episode 4 starts two days after the beginning of Episode 3 (Episode 3 takes place over two days) and Episode 5 is one day after Ep. 4, placing the end of Episode 5 around early November.
Season Two kicks off around 5 to 8 months after Ep.5 (Depends on how far Christa was into her pregnancy during Ep.5) placing us around early May or August 2004, after (Br)Omid dies and we have a 16 month timeskip, it's around mid October to mid December 2005 (The later being more likely), we then stay with the cabin group for one night (All That Remains) only to spend the next night either in a Truck or a Shed and running through the woods (A House Divided), we then have the 5 day timeskip making it around late December once we reach the Ski lodge (Christmas decorations and what-not), we then spend 3 days at Howes Hardware (including the drive to get there), we leave late on the 3rd day and spend the night locating Parker's Run (It's around late December to early January now (Placing us in early 2006)).
We then determinately spend either one or three nights at Parker's Run, making it around early January (I'd guess the 5th or the 6th).
Bottom Line:
Apocalypse Starts: Late July 2003)
Apocalypse Currently: Early January 2006
So yeah, that's the Video Game Timeline (at least from what i can decipher.
I'm not so sure about the novels but I've heard that they don't really adhere to either the continuity of the comics or the TV-Series.
The comics avoid the issue. 2003 would work as the start of the outbreak since that is when the comic began being published. But characters mention things like playing Portal (which came out in 2007) that do not match up with it. So its best to just think of it as always sliding forward to the most current year.
Ya I think you're right now that I think about it. It might be nothing but I remember a tube screen tv in clems house that might give an indictation that its 2003. Though not everyone has a flatscreen I guess.
Even though the game is not directly canon to the comics, I believe it treats the comics as canon source material. I think the apocalypse st… morearted around 2003-2004 in the comics. If you watch carefully, you may notice some references to this in Telltale's first Season, such as the cheap gas prices in the introduction of 400 Days or the early 2000's era technology at the Pharmacy in Episode 101.
Everybody is still saying 2003/2004. Which I believed at first too. But then in one of the novels (which are canon to the games and comics) a character is given an exact death year of 2012, still in the year the whole thing started. The whole thing is co-written by Kirkman. So is it a retcon on his part, or did he just mess up? I could see it as being a mistake because in the book it also says they are a year and a half in, but it's actually supposed to be more like half a year. Sloppy sloppy
Yes I know that. They don't adhere exactly to the comics, but they are supposed to be considered in the same storyline and they give us more info on the Woodbury characters before and after the Prison arc. The stated events in the Novels are supposed to have happened to the characters. It's the reason why the Lilly from the game was retconned from being the one from Woodbury to a different character, because the one from Woodbury was given a different backstory. If the novel's continuity wasn't counted, then they really wouldn't have needed to retcon the game Lilly. I'm just now wondering if it's a mistake on Kirkman's part or if the year change is deliberate.
You should be doing a little more research for your timeline ._. The outbreak in the game/comics continuity begins in 2003, I'm not so sure … moreabout the novels but I've heard that they don't really adhere to either the continuity of the comics or the TV-Series
Keep in mind that Kirkman has said before he doesn't have a set year for the comics. So 2003 worked when the comics came out. But it has slowly shifted to 2012 on. And will continue to slowly shift as long as the comics continue.
Everybody is still saying 2003/2004. Which I believed at first too. But then in one of the novels (which are canon to the games and comics) … morea character is given an exact death year of 2012, still in the year the whole thing started. The whole thing is co-written by Kirkman. So is it a retcon on his part, or did he just mess up? I could see it as being a mistake because in the book it also says they are a year and a half in, but it's actually supposed to be more like half a year. Sloppy sloppy
Any idea on how to treat it guys?
They don't know it's Christmas time when they reach the ski lodge. It's all just a guess. Even Sarita says they just found the decorations in the storage and decided to put them up. And if it was late December at a ski lodge there would probably be snow on the ground. Enough to ski on since those kind of places are usually built in areas that have pretty reliable winters since their whole business relies on it.
Sorry if I sound like a dick by the way, I feel like I am harassing you :0
Given what I've read about in the past, Kirkman is famous for being a fairly sloppy writer (constantly contradicting the timeline of the comics and adding details that ruin other previously established details), I think he might be getting confused between the various timelines and backstories he's established in some canons, but not in others (only for them to be hastily retconned later)
I don't blame him though, guy's gotta keep up with two different universes (or three if you include the Game continuity which does differ from the comics, or four if you count the novels which seem to crossover with the comics and the TV series at some points), tis a bit of a canonical clusterfuck.
Yes I know that. They don't adhere exactly to the comics, but they are supposed to be considered in the same storyline and they give us more… more info on the Woodbury characters before and after the Prison arc. The stated events in the Novels are supposed to have happened to the characters. It's the reason why the Lilly from the game was retconned from being the one from Woodbury to a different character, because the one from Woodbury was given a different backstory. If the novel's continuity wasn't counted, then they really wouldn't have needed to retcon the game Lilly. I'm just now wondering if it's a mistake on Kirkman's part or if the year change is deliberate.
They don't know it's Christmas time when they reach the ski lodge. It's all just a guess. Even Sarita says they just found the decorations i… moren the storage and decided to put them up. And if it was late December at a ski lodge there would probably be snow on the ground. Enough to ski on since those kind of places are usually built in areas that have pretty reliable winters since their whole business relies on it.
Sorry if I sound like a dick by the way, I feel like I am harassing you :0
but the portal thing was only ever in the tv show which is in a completely different universe from the comic and game the tv show outbreak started sometime around 2010/2011
The comics avoid the issue. 2003 would work as the start of the outbreak since that is when the comic began being published. But characters … moremention things like playing Portal (which came out in 2007) that do not match up with it. So its best to just think of it as always sliding forward to the most current year.
The thing is the novels kinda mess up all those speculations. In the 3rd book there is grave of someone who died about a year after apocalypse started and the date says 2012 o 2013, I believe (can't remember now, will have to look it up). Anyway it's pretty recent date and novels are supposedly canon to both comics and game, so it's really hard to tell what the real timeline is.
Yes, this! I also remembered seeing 2012 date on a gravestone in the 3rd novel, I believe. The problem is that novels (as much as they are good story-wise) mess up continuity of universe completely. 2012 date is one thing, and like you said it's been said at the beginning of the 3rd book that 2 years have passed since the outbreak, when we know that in comics not even a year passed to the point where Rick, Glenn and Michonne stumble upon Woodbury, so there's clearly more continuity problems in the novels. Additionally in the Road to Woodbury there is a big storm that hit Georgia, whereas it was never shown or mentioned in the comic book that at the time were happening no more than 10 kilometres from Woodbury.
Everybody is still saying 2003/2004. Which I believed at first too. But then in one of the novels (which are canon to the games and comics) … morea character is given an exact death year of 2012, still in the year the whole thing started. The whole thing is co-written by Kirkman. So is it a retcon on his part, or did he just mess up? I could see it as being a mistake because in the book it also says they are a year and a half in, but it's actually supposed to be more like half a year. Sloppy sloppy
Any idea on how to treat it guys?
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You should be doing a little more research for your timeline ._. The outbreak in the game/comics continuity begins in 2003, I'm not so sure about the novels but I've heard that they don't really adhere to either the continuity of the comics or the TV-Series
The outbreak in the game/comics continuity begins in 2003, around late July I believe, Episode two of Season 1 takes place in mid to late October (Notice the autumn weather), Episode 3 takes place a week or two after Ep. 2 (thanks to the dialogue between Lee, Kenny and Lily when debating about leaving the Motor Inn), Episode 4 starts two days after the beginning of Episode 3 (Episode 3 takes place over two days) and Episode 5 is one day after Ep. 4, placing the end of Episode 5 around early November.
Season Two kicks off around 5 to 8 months after Ep.5 (Depends on how far Christa was into her pregnancy during Ep.5) placing us around early May or August 2004, after (Br)Omid dies and we have a 16 month timeskip, it's around mid October to mid December 2005 (The later being more likely), we then stay with the cabin group for one night (All That Remains) only to spend the next night either in a Truck or a Shed and running through the woods (A House Divided), we then have the 5 day timeskip making it around late December once we reach the Ski lodge (Christmas decorations and what-not), we then spend 3 days at Howes Hardware (including the drive to get there), we leave late on the 3rd day and spend the night locating Parker's Run (It's around late December to early January now (Placing us in early 2006)).
We then determinately spend either one or three nights at Parker's Run, making it around early January (I'd guess the 5th or the 6th).
Bottom Line:
Apocalypse Starts: Late July 2003)
Apocalypse Currently: Early January 2006
So yeah, that's the Video Game Timeline (at least from what i can decipher.
I'm not so sure about the novels but I've heard that they don't really adhere to either the continuity of the comics or the TV-Series.
So yeah... Ramble over...
The comics avoid the issue. 2003 would work as the start of the outbreak since that is when the comic began being published. But characters mention things like playing Portal (which came out in 2007) that do not match up with it. So its best to just think of it as always sliding forward to the most current year.
Ya I think you're right now that I think about it. It might be nothing but I remember a tube screen tv in clems house that might give an indictation that its 2003. Though not everyone has a flatscreen I guess.
Everybody is still saying 2003/2004. Which I believed at first too. But then in one of the novels (which are canon to the games and comics) a character is given an exact death year of 2012, still in the year the whole thing started. The whole thing is co-written by Kirkman. So is it a retcon on his part, or did he just mess up? I could see it as being a mistake because in the book it also says they are a year and a half in, but it's actually supposed to be more like half a year. Sloppy sloppy
Any idea on how to treat it guys?
Yes I know that. They don't adhere exactly to the comics, but they are supposed to be considered in the same storyline and they give us more info on the Woodbury characters before and after the Prison arc. The stated events in the Novels are supposed to have happened to the characters. It's the reason why the Lilly from the game was retconned from being the one from Woodbury to a different character, because the one from Woodbury was given a different backstory. If the novel's continuity wasn't counted, then they really wouldn't have needed to retcon the game Lilly. I'm just now wondering if it's a mistake on Kirkman's part or if the year change is deliberate.
Keep in mind that Kirkman has said before he doesn't have a set year for the comics. So 2003 worked when the comics came out. But it has slowly shifted to 2012 on. And will continue to slowly shift as long as the comics continue.
They don't know it's Christmas time when they reach the ski lodge. It's all just a guess. Even Sarita says they just found the decorations in the storage and decided to put them up. And if it was late December at a ski lodge there would probably be snow on the ground. Enough to ski on since those kind of places are usually built in areas that have pretty reliable winters since their whole business relies on it.
Sorry if I sound like a dick by the way, I feel like I am harassing you :0
Given what I've read about in the past, Kirkman is famous for being a fairly sloppy writer (constantly contradicting the timeline of the comics and adding details that ruin other previously established details), I think he might be getting confused between the various timelines and backstories he's established in some canons, but not in others (only for them to be hastily retconned later)
I don't blame him though, guy's gotta keep up with two different universes (or three if you include the Game continuity which does differ from the comics, or four if you count the novels which seem to crossover with the comics and the TV series at some points), tis a bit of a canonical clusterfuck.
Nah it's fine, I like to think of it as trying to piece together the timeline as a community rather than a solo effort
They say life imitates art, they just sent the first case of Ebola Virus to a hospital in Atlanta, like yesterday.
or that hyundai in the show...damn its so clean...
So if its based in 2003 does this mean Clem is 18 based in our present day year being 2014?
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but the portal thing was only ever in the tv show which is in a completely different universe from the comic and game the tv show outbreak started sometime around 2010/2011
no she would be 20 she turned 9 in 2003 and 11 in 2005 so that would mean she was born in 1994 come on man its simple math
The thing is the novels kinda mess up all those speculations. In the 3rd book there is grave of someone who died about a year after apocalypse started and the date says 2012 o 2013, I believe (can't remember now, will have to look it up). Anyway it's pretty recent date and novels are supposedly canon to both comics and game, so it's really hard to tell what the real timeline is.
Yes, this! I also remembered seeing 2012 date on a gravestone in the 3rd novel, I believe. The problem is that novels (as much as they are good story-wise) mess up continuity of universe completely. 2012 date is one thing, and like you said it's been said at the beginning of the 3rd book that 2 years have passed since the outbreak, when we know that in comics not even a year passed to the point where Rick, Glenn and Michonne stumble upon Woodbury, so there's clearly more continuity problems in the novels. Additionally in the Road to Woodbury there is a big storm that hit Georgia, whereas it was never shown or mentioned in the comic book that at the time were happening no more than 10 kilometres from Woodbury.