"And We're More Alike Than You Think."
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So a majority of people are like "my Clementine isn't like Carver, she would never be like him" however if you are one of the people who left Sarah at the trailer park or didn't try to save her at the observation deck then you are indeed like Carver, think about it
"Killing one in order to save many is part of survival, It's one of the tough decisions that a weaker person couldn't make, its why it falls to people like us to lead them to safety." - Carver
You killed Sarah so others can survive, which makes you like Carver.
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lol I did all of that, I want her to be like carver because people like becca are out there
At the same time, did those who left Sarah to be eaten alive really intend to 'save others', or did they just not want to deal with a burden?
As far as I'm concerned, Carver was a weak and deluded man. He lost control over his emotions and impulses, and was pathetic enough to murder a man over a basket of berries. Clem definitely isn't like him.
ok fine I got nick killed on purpose then saved him to see if nuke would happen then it didn't got sarah killed then saved sarah for clarah to happen but it did not so..
I don't see how Nick getting capped was Clems fault
Leaving Sarah to die...
Letting Nick get eaten...
Not trying to save Alvin...
If anyone's Clementine did this, I think their Clementine may possess some traits similar to Carver.
No. In the observation deck, i grabbed Jane's hand because she was falling from a ledge, and i had no intentions of letting a kid die.
The deck fell, and someone was going to get killed. Just because i chose Jane, it doesn't mean i wanted to get rid of the weak. Now if Clem leaves Sarah at the trailer park, i can agree with you.
If you tell walter that nick is just like everyone else in Ep 2 not 4
Because by telling Walter that Nick was 'like everyone else', she broke Walter's spirit completely and turned him into a killer. Walter's idealistic enough to trust a little girl's outlook on her friend, even if he murdered Walter's lover.
Walter does not shoot Nick, he just lets him die.
Like I said above, Walter does not shoot Nick, he just leaves him to die, the only time Nick gets shot is when Tavia shoots him when he and Luke run through the herd
If someone jumps off a cliff and you are unable to save them, did that mean you killed them? No.
That's what Sarah did.
By refusing to save someone when given the chance, you may as well have killed them. That's why leaving Sarah to be eaten alive is the same as murdering her, or letting Nick be eaten when Walter had a clear shot meant that he'd become a killer.
I focus my attention on those who can't survive on their own, it's obvious that Jane can handle herself and that she was gonna leave, which is why I tried to save Sarah... but for some reason only Jane could try...
Sarah was alive, but if you refused to help her in any way, then you did indeed kill her to save others, not direct murder, but indirect, like Walter, he has the choice to save Nick but determinantly will let him die, Walter still killed him, just indirectly
Sarah didn't jump off a cliff. She was in a state of grief and needed to be woken up.
Unless you're talking about her second death, in which case she didn't "do that."
I see what you mean, but I don't think so. Despite the "determined" status on Sarah, I knew she was going to die one way or another. I could think of a 100000 possible worse deaths in a ZA than the one she suffered in the trailer, which is why I left her. In a way, I was sparing her from a worse death.
I have no idea why I laughed at this..its not because its wrong its because its so true
If you're referring to leaving her in the trailer park, that's not true.
Your analogy relies on the words 'If you're unable to save them'. You ARE able to save Sarah in the trailer park.
While Carver was a sadistic psycho murderer he had a point. He was so smart that he... didn't have a thick skull
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Yeah I do agree with you, and I suppose the Nick thing is true, but im pretty sure Clementine didn't have the intention of Nick dying when telling Walter what she thinks of him, she herself couldn't save Nick cause she was out of ammo
I have no idea why but I didn't want to save her.. she was like that piece of shit on the back of your shoe that is soo annoying
I don't think you really can think of deaths that are much worse than being betrayed by people you thought were your friends and left to be eaten alive.
Seriously, what mental gymnastics do you have to go through to rationalize that kind of death as "merciful?" A bullet in the head's much better than having your flesh ripped off your bones and rotting teeth tearing through your fingers and chest and tearing you limb from limb.
Give me a 'worse death' than that, and I'll give you a flying pig.
With that kind of attitude you'll go far in life. Please never talk to a kid.
"Im not going to kill you... but I dont have to save you..." ~Batman
Walter is the Batman
Agreed, being eaten alive slowly seems way worse than getting shot or falling and being impaled
far I will go no one knows
The point is that Walter only lets Nick die if Clem refuses to tell him that Nick is a good man. In a way, you can see Walter's optimism as a cover for the deep-seated anger and cynicism he harbored about human nature. If Nick isn't a good man, then the world in Walter's eyes is fucked.
Besides, if a guy wielding a knife is asking me whether or not my friend's "like everyone else" or a good guy, I'd go with the latter.
Just watch Day of the Dead. The death scenes in that movie are drawn out and truly gruesome. I'd only wish that shit on someone like Carver.
Now I think I see it, it's not completely Clementine's fault, it is those who influences her decision to do so that carry the fault
I read the observation deck one wrong. I thought it was Save Sarah and Jane dies or Grab my hand and Jane dies. I also didn't think they were dialogue options at first.
To be honest, I'd rather have had that actually be the case. Jane's hypocrisy got on my nerves. Sarah's kindness was a relief.
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To be fair I don't think Carver was sadistic, just crazy. Carver stated that he wished he didn't have to kill people, but he surely didn't give to many shits that's for sure.
Carver didn't kill Becca. Also, Becca is just a young teen, she's bratty, yeah, but if you give her the gun to kill Stephanie she'll immediately back down, she just puts on the tough act because she thinks that's what you need to survive the ZA. Doesn't help that she was stuck in one dictator's camp and then another.
I agree
I ain't into romantic relationships, but part of my fondness for Sarah involved my belief that Clementine deserved to have a young girl as a her companion. They both deserved friends.
Feel free to explain what you mean when you call Jane a hypocrite.
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He says that to make his victims feel bad for "making him" hurt/kill them. But I do agree that he broke when it came to the cabin group - his grudge became personal and he started doing things that broke his followers' trust in his stability.