She speaks of how important it is to never make attachments and remain independent, then offers Luke a chance to have sex. She then leaves him because she doesn't want to get emotionally attached, though it's evident through her interaction with Clem that she already has.
I dislike her for espousing a misanthropic, fatalist ideology but then not even being strong enough to stick to it.
Why do you think that Jane thinks that sex equals emotional attachment? What if she views it as something that'll make her feel better, and nothing more? Obviously Luke thought differently, which is maybe why you think Jane is the same?
She struggles with her relationship with Clem because of her past, which she is very honest about. The hypocritical thing to do would be to stick with the group/ask Clem to come with her. But no, she leaves because she needs to be alone, as she stated from the very beginning. Nothing hypocritical about that to me.
But of course there are different ways to interpret characters, and I'm glad you explained why you felt like that ^^ Thanks for that!
She speaks of how important it is to never make attachments and remain independent, then offers Luke a chance to have sex. She then leaves … morehim because she doesn't want to get emotionally attached, though it's evident through her interaction with Clem that she already has.
I dislike her for espousing a misanthropic, fatalist ideology but then not even being strong enough to stick to it.
You're welcome. I'm fine with disagreements as they open the way for proper dialogues.
Anyway, I find her casual approach to sex as showing a lack of empathy to Luke's emotional state, or even the group's current predicament. I'm sure she herself "needed" to have human contact as much as Luke did, but she never considers the idea that not everyone finds it easy to let go. It's irritating that the writers don't allow Clem to call her out on it. It was a mutually selfish act on her and Luke's part.
I guess her unlikable aspects are what makes her fascinating to me. Just as Lilly is someone who I initially hated, but have now grown to pity.
Hmm, alright.
Why do you think that Jane thinks that sex equals emotional attachment? What if she views it as something that'll make her … morefeel better, and nothing more? Obviously Luke thought differently, which is maybe why you think Jane is the same?
She struggles with her relationship with Clem because of her past, which she is very honest about. The hypocritical thing to do would be to stick with the group/ask Clem to come with her. But no, she leaves because she needs to be alone, as she stated from the very beginning. Nothing hypocritical about that to me.
But of course there are different ways to interpret characters, and I'm glad you explained why you felt like that ^^ Thanks for that!
Yes I can agree that Jane is a flawed character in some ways, just not what I'd call a hypocrite.
She's very capable and determined, like Clem, but she also has major trust issues and does not allow herself to lean on others or make any real connections anymore. So in that regard she's selfish. Obviously this is something that will bug a lot of people. I did not agree with her, as I feel you need to be able to lean on each other and will do much better in a group. But I can see her reasoning and accept it without it bugging me too much.
I have not been able to change my opinion about Lily yet, though... If she shows up in episode 5... I'm not sure how I'd react.
You're welcome. I'm fine with disagreements as they open the way for proper dialogues.
Anyway, I find her casual approach to sex as show… moreing a lack of empathy to Luke's emotional state, or even the group's current predicament. I'm sure she herself "needed" to have human contact as much as Luke did, but she never considers the idea that not everyone finds it easy to let go. It's irritating that the writers don't allow Clem to call her out on it. It was a mutually selfish act on her and Luke's part.
I guess her unlikable aspects are what makes her fascinating to me. Just as Lilly is someone who I initially hated, but have now grown to pity.
I don't actually care much for seeing Lilly again this Season, even though I'd have preferred having her return over Kenny. But I bet she'd end up much like Jane - a caring person who struggles very hard to act detached, but is truly miserable because of it.
Yes I can agree that Jane is a flawed character in some ways, just not what I'd call a hypocrite.
She's very capable and determined, like… more Clem, but she also has major trust issues and does not allow herself to lean on others or make any real connections anymore. So in that regard she's selfish. Obviously this is something that will bug a lot of people. I did not agree with her, as I feel you need to be able to lean on each other and will do much better in a group. But I can see her reasoning and accept it without it bugging me too much.
I have not been able to change my opinion about Lily yet, though... If she shows up in episode 5... I'm not sure how I'd react.
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cmon guys if that fucking stuff from the others games "etc; rellie" can be shipped why not Clarah?
lol
She speaks of how important it is to never make attachments and remain independent, then offers Luke a chance to have sex. She then leaves him because she doesn't want to get emotionally attached, though it's evident through her interaction with Clem that she already has.
I dislike her for espousing a misanthropic, fatalist ideology but then not even being strong enough to stick to it.
Because of creepy fan-art?
Point still stands: Clem needs to care about people, not just tools. That's the difference between her and Carver.
Monsters aren't born, we are created.
oh yeah the fan-art shiver
That is murder anyway.
Hmm, alright.
Why do you think that Jane thinks that sex equals emotional attachment? What if she views it as something that'll make her feel better, and nothing more? Obviously Luke thought differently, which is maybe why you think Jane is the same?
She struggles with her relationship with Clem because of her past, which she is very honest about. The hypocritical thing to do would be to stick with the group/ask Clem to come with her. But no, she leaves because she needs to be alone, as she stated from the very beginning. Nothing hypocritical about that to me.
But of course there are different ways to interpret characters, and I'm glad you explained why you felt like that ^^ Thanks for that!
You're welcome. I'm fine with disagreements as they open the way for proper dialogues.
Anyway, I find her casual approach to sex as showing a lack of empathy to Luke's emotional state, or even the group's current predicament. I'm sure she herself "needed" to have human contact as much as Luke did, but she never considers the idea that not everyone finds it easy to let go. It's irritating that the writers don't allow Clem to call her out on it. It was a mutually selfish act on her and Luke's part.
I guess her unlikable aspects are what makes her fascinating to me. Just as Lilly is someone who I initially hated, but have now grown to pity.
Yes I can agree that Jane is a flawed character in some ways, just not what I'd call a hypocrite.
She's very capable and determined, like Clem, but she also has major trust issues and does not allow herself to lean on others or make any real connections anymore. So in that regard she's selfish. Obviously this is something that will bug a lot of people. I did not agree with her, as I feel you need to be able to lean on each other and will do much better in a group. But I can see her reasoning and accept it without it bugging me too much.
I have not been able to change my opinion about Lily yet, though... If she shows up in episode 5... I'm not sure how I'd react.
I don't actually care much for seeing Lilly again this Season, even though I'd have preferred having her return over Kenny. But I bet she'd end up much like Jane - a caring person who struggles very hard to act detached, but is truly miserable because of it.