That's easy to say. I'm not going to tell you that Kenny had it worse or was more right, but it was the choice I was most comfortable with.
Just like i bet you choosing Jane felt more right to you.
That's easy to say. I'm not going to tell you that Kenny had it worse or was more right, but it was the choice I was most comfortable with.
Just like i bet you choosing Jane felt more right to you.
So you got nothing for Kenny's defense so instead you make it about Jane's shortcomings.
Its clearly everyone else fault he flies off the handle whenever someone disagrees with him.
Kenny is just the victim CLEARLY.
The Kenny love is so strong with some of you people that simple logic escapes you.
Jane was just as shocked at how it ended as much as Clem was. Jane did not want it to go that badly but Kenny flat out refuses to listen to reason. He honestly reminded me of the dog back in episode one. Rabid and attacking me for no reason.
okay we've had enough of kenny lets talk about jane shall we ?
firsti said she is why all of this started why the russian is after us ...… more second she couldn't shut up in the car she made him angry and tried to abandon him in the snow while he was searching for gas .... made clem kill kenny FOR A POINT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME WTF
No wonder why jane sister left her
defending her self ? by telling hin she sacrficed the baby ? (kenny thought she sacriced the baby why ? because she's a loner) she a loner who care about her self left her sister sooner or later she will leave clem like she intended to leave sarah
Stopping Kenny from murdering Jane felt right to me.
If it were Jane being the bloodthirsty one trying to kill Kenny I'd side with him. She was merely defending herself from him.
defending her self ? by telling hin she sacrficed the baby ? (kenny thought she sacriced the baby why ? because she's a loner) she a loner who care about her self left her sister sooner or later she will leave clem like she intended to leave sarah
I think that's too simple. For me they were equal in that fight, Jane provoked it, Kenny started it, Jane brought the knife into it and someone died.
One was in a blinding rage, the other manipulating that rage to appear. I'm not going to discuss "what if's" such as if it had been Clementine loosing the child since she hadn't been taunting Kenny in the car nor would she have left the baby what that would have made is anyones guess. Jane had also made her position on the baby clear many times over, so there are a lot of elements that are into the play.
"Kenny murdered Jane" is too simple, that was an event that had been building since episode 4 and we just chose the one we felt we could trust.
Stopping Kenny from murdering Jane felt right to me.
If it were Jane being the bloodthirsty one trying to kill Kenny I'd side with him. She was merely defending herself from him.
of course he doesn't hear her even you if u were as much as angry as him you will do the same now u will say u won't but if u put ur self in the situation you may do the same
lol the entire time Jane is trying to tell him it was an accident. He doesn't even hear her. He is going for the kill.
Whatever I know my words are lost on you.
Only thing that matters is Kenny.
Yah but you can't go and remind him of them with the first ocasion you get , and in some cases say he could have saved them ( like Jane did in the car ) . Think of it this wey , how would Clem react is there was someone telling her that Lee is dead because of her ? Or even better , telling her that she could have saved him but she didn't try hard enouf .
Just because your pain is understandable, doesn't mean your behavior is acceptable. You can't keep using "o but he lost ppl!!! ):" as an excuse for the shit Kenny did.
All i know is Kenny was obsessed with getting to Wellington "for the baby" sounded way to similar to the boat situation back in season 1. History repeats itself. Only this time he's not just getting angry at people for disagreeing with him he's getting violent. We get back to Carver's compound and Jane says when we look at Carver's corpse "I cant believe you saw that" and Clem can say "I'm glad I did" and I sure am because it helped me see what Kenny is capable of.
Its not as simple as that yes but the Kenny fans like GAMExLIFE acts like Kenny is incapable of having being at fault. Jane provoked Kenny? What about Luke? Who simply disagreed with him in episode 4? Or hell anyone who simply disagrees with him is provoking him apparently. I'm not saying Jane was in the right. That was a stupid move pretending the baby was dead but that was going to happen eventually. And people acting like Kenny is perfect is ridiculous.
I think that's too simple. For me they were equal in that fight, Jane provoked it, Kenny started it, Jane brought the knife into it and some… moreone died.
One was in a blinding rage, the other manipulating that rage to appear. I'm not going to discuss "what if's" such as if it had been Clementine loosing the child since she hadn't been taunting Kenny in the car nor would she have left the baby what that would have made is anyones guess. Jane had also made her position on the baby clear many times over, so there are a lot of elements that are into the play.
"Kenny murdered Jane" is too simple, that was an event that had been building since episode 4 and we just chose the one we felt we could trust.
I agree that Jane shouldn't have said what she said to Kenny, but Kenny began by telling her that she's nothing, that nobody cares about her which makes her nothing. They both said things that shouldn't have been said.
of course he will she saw him when sarita died he was fucking pissed anyway when they were in the car she says you coulda saved sarita ... w… morehat would you do if someone reminded you of your died friend/family ?
even so she started all of this when she stole arvo
Clem's lost just about everyone in her life since the outbreak. Including her parents.
She even had to kill Lee, and she's holding up far… more better than Kenny. Not to say that I would hold up well in his position, but like the girl in the TV version (I've forgotten her name) not everyone is suited to this new world, and they cause danger to others as much as themselves. Maybe Kenny's mind just couldn't handle the stress of losing those around him so often. That had caused him to become a danger to those around him, and ultimately those he wanted to protect.
He forgot all about freezing little Clem to beat on Arvo.
Kenny was far gone, that was obvious. Which is why I think Jane was insane to make that decision "to prove a point" that was the deal sealer for me.
They were both right and wrong in several of their points towards the other, which is why I think we will have to settle on that the choices are perfectly viable depending on what kind of person you would trust more.
All i know is Kenny was obsessed with getting to Wellington "for the baby" sounded way to similar to the boat situation back in season 1. … moreHistory repeats itself. Only this time he's not just getting angry at people for disagreeing with him he's getting violent. We get back to Carver's compound and Jane says when we look at Carver's corpse "I cant believe you saw that" and Clem can say "I'm glad I did" and I sure am because it helped me see what Kenny is capable of.
Its not as simple as that yes but the Kenny fans like GAMExLIFE acts like Kenny is incapable of having being at fault. Jane provoked Kenny? What about Luke? Who simply disagreed with him in episode 4? Or hell anyone who simply disagrees with him is provoking him apparently. I'm not saying Jane was in the right. That was a stupid move pretending the baby was dead but that was going to happen eventually. And people acting like Kenny is perfect is ridiculous.
OK, not in the place where Arvo runs, that indeed wasn't the smartest idea. But that doesn't change the fact that being around a person who constantly wants to beat you up is not a good scenario.
of course he doesn't hear her even you if u were as much as angry as him you will do the same now u will say u won't but if u put ur self in the situation you may do the same
Are you saying I would lose my mind if someone tried to tell me a baby died during a zombie apocolypse?
My god I wish I could show you how ridiculous you sound right now.
Bottom line is her saying it was an accident was a flat out lie. She did nothing more than try and manipulate Clem into siding with her. However I honored her wish of "no matter what happens, stay out of it." And end in the end all those people claiming Kenny would come unhinged and eventually hurt Clem were proven wrong when he delivered Clem and AJ to Wellington and then begged for them to be allowed to stay.
lol the entire time Jane is trying to tell him it was an accident. He doesn't even hear her. He is going for the kill.
Whatever I know my words are lost on you.
Only thing that matters is Kenny.
But see, you can't use the "He lost people" argument because everyone has lost people. Jane lost her sister. Clem lost everyone. Luke lost all his friends. The most predictable thing about Kenny was his unpredictability and his raging temper and his temper always got the best of him which is why I had to kill him.
Guys Come Give him a fucking break lost 2 wife's and a son he was protect a new born child put yourself in that situation for real and you will defnielty do the same and i think kenny though he sacrfice him because you know she's a loner n stuff
Are you saying I would lose my mind if someone tried to tell me a baby died during a zombie apocolypse?
My god I wish I could show you how ridiculous you sound right now.
Why Everyone is begging mean to Jane?!! rebbeca,Kenny, and the rest of the group kept saying that they can't trust her.. forgotten.. She is the one who gave them the idea to get out of carver place,she is the one who helped Rebecca with the "cow catcher" plan and she opened the gift shop for them so Rebecca can feel safe to put her baby and she killed that Russian guy to save KENNY and the rest of them,and if she only care about her self why did she help Clem to get out of the frozen lake and Kenny is the one who started the fight and after all carver camp was the best place for all of them,She deserve some respect
Arvo had little choice but to agree with them. I mean... what was the alternative? He got a good deal out of it, which he most definitely did not deserve even a little.
She has some respect. But lost most of it when she decided to manipulate people, insulted Kenny's dead family and girlfriend, pretended to let a baby die to prove some point while theres tons of walkers around, leaving the baby in a car with an OPEN window and said walkers. The baby only needed to cry to serve as a dinner bell.
She messed up completely. And to keep forcing us to prefer being alone... I don't get it. Its allways better to be in a group imo. Strength in numbers, taking watch, how is Clem (if she took the solo ending) going to protect AJ if she sleeps? No one around to protect her...
Why Everyone is begging mean to Jane?!! rebbeca,Kenny, and the rest of the group kept saying that they can't trust her.. forgotten.. She is … morethe one who gave them the idea to get out of carver place,she is the one who helped Rebecca with the "cow catcher" plan and she opened the gift shop for them so Rebecca can feel safe to put her baby and she killed that Russian guy to save KENNY and the rest of them,and if she only care about her self why did she help Clem to get out of the frozen lake and Kenny is the one who started the fight and after all carver camp was the best place for all of them,She deserve some respect
Bottom line is her saying it was an accident was a flat out lie. She did nothing more than try and manipulate Clem into siding with her. How… moreever I honored her wish of "no matter what happens, stay out of it." And end in the end all those people claiming Kenny would come unhinged and eventually hurt Clem were proven wrong when he delivered Clem and AJ to Wellington and then begged for them to be allowed to stay.
Why Everyone is begging mean to Jane?!! rebbeca,Kenny, and the rest of the group kept saying that they can't trust her.. forgotten.. She is … morethe one who gave them the idea to get out of carver place,she is the one who helped Rebecca with the "cow catcher" plan and she opened the gift shop for them so Rebecca can feel safe to put her baby and she killed that Russian guy to save KENNY and the rest of them,and if she only care about her self why did she help Clem to get out of the frozen lake and Kenny is the one who started the fight and after all carver camp was the best place for all of them,She deserve some respect
You're entitled to your opinion, but the "elusive" Wellington? How can it be elusive when it was an actual fact. Wellington exits and Kenny cave up his own position and safety so two young children with futures ahead of them could have a better chance in the world. That takes really heart, he owned up to his flaws as well and that takes a lot of courage. He knows he's done a lot of bad, where as Jane- she's just cold.
He loses his temper whenever anyone questions his decisions. Yes its so easy to blame Jane but he's been doing this from the start.
Look… more I get it. The Kenny fanclub is legion and I'm probably going to get lynched for saying this but Kenny is insane. Yes he lost a lot but who the fuck hasn't? This elusive Wellington just became the next boat. Kenny cannot accept that he might be wrong about something and I honestly don't blame everyone for getting scared of him.
Hyperbole much? Hes not perfect but he sure as shit doesn't manipulate you and cost people their lives just to prove a point. Btw I was just doing as Jane asked when she told me to "stay out of it. "
Yes but still he didn't have to tell his group that he stole the medicine , but he could have told them to put the guns down because someone else robbed him not Clem . So i don't know if he was just a prick or simply an idiot but because of him Clems group got in a realy shity situation . Again i'm not here to prove that befriending Arvo is a bad thing i'm simply presenting my oppinion .
Arvo had little choice but to agree with them. I mean... what was the alternative? He got a good deal out of it, which he most definitely did not deserve even a little.
She wanted to prove how dangerous Kenny was, so of course she wasn't goint to attack first. She needed to make herself look like the victim.
What an awful timing to prove a point though. Deliberately leaving a helpless baby that could easily attract walkers, taunting a broken man knowing the consequences that would bring and manipulating you into potentially killing him just to make you know this man is dangerous? which is complete and utter bullshit, if you get his ending you'll realize Kenny wanted NOTHING but yours and AJ safety.
Can you say that about Jane?. No. She was crazy, manipulative, cold and deserved what she got.
She had to prove to Clem how dangerous he was and boy did she ever. More than even she expected. Do you make a habit of blaming murder victims for getting murdered?
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Alright but think about who's fault is that
who intended to leave sarah ?
who wanted to steal arvo ?
who provoked kenny to fight ?
sooner or later she will leave clem like she left her own sister
Stopping Kenny from murdering Jane felt right to me.
If it were Jane being the bloodthirsty one trying to kill Kenny I'd side with him. She was merely defending herself from him.
And yet she came back and saved them from the russians... Funny how that parts suddenly forgotten.
So you got nothing for Kenny's defense so instead you make it about Jane's shortcomings.
Its clearly everyone else fault he flies off the handle whenever someone disagrees with him.
Kenny is just the victim CLEARLY.
The Kenny love is so strong with some of you people that simple logic escapes you.
Jane was just as shocked at how it ended as much as Clem was. Jane did not want it to go that badly but Kenny flat out refuses to listen to reason. He honestly reminded me of the dog back in episode one. Rabid and attacking me for no reason.
defending her self ? by telling hin she sacrficed the baby ? (kenny thought she sacriced the baby why ? because she's a loner) she a loner who care about her self left her sister sooner or later she will leave clem like she intended to leave sarah
lol the entire time Jane is trying to tell him it was an accident. He doesn't even hear her. He is going for the kill.
Whatever I know my words are lost on you.
Only thing that matters is Kenny.
I think that's too simple. For me they were equal in that fight, Jane provoked it, Kenny started it, Jane brought the knife into it and someone died.
One was in a blinding rage, the other manipulating that rage to appear. I'm not going to discuss "what if's" such as if it had been Clementine loosing the child since she hadn't been taunting Kenny in the car nor would she have left the baby what that would have made is anyones guess. Jane had also made her position on the baby clear many times over, so there are a lot of elements that are into the play.
"Kenny murdered Jane" is too simple, that was an event that had been building since episode 4 and we just chose the one we felt we could trust.
of course he doesn't hear her even you if u were as much as angry as him you will do the same now u will say u won't but if u put ur self in the situation you may do the same
Yah but you can't go and remind him of them with the first ocasion you get , and in some cases say he could have saved them ( like Jane did in the car ) . Think of it this wey , how would Clem react is there was someone telling her that Lee is dead because of her ? Or even better , telling her that she could have saved him but she didn't try hard enouf .
All i know is Kenny was obsessed with getting to Wellington "for the baby" sounded way to similar to the boat situation back in season 1. History repeats itself. Only this time he's not just getting angry at people for disagreeing with him he's getting violent. We get back to Carver's compound and Jane says when we look at Carver's corpse "I cant believe you saw that" and Clem can say "I'm glad I did" and I sure am because it helped me see what Kenny is capable of.
Its not as simple as that yes but the Kenny fans like GAMExLIFE acts like Kenny is incapable of having being at fault. Jane provoked Kenny? What about Luke? Who simply disagreed with him in episode 4? Or hell anyone who simply disagrees with him is provoking him apparently. I'm not saying Jane was in the right. That was a stupid move pretending the baby was dead but that was going to happen eventually. And people acting like Kenny is perfect is ridiculous.
I agree that Jane shouldn't have said what she said to Kenny, but Kenny began by telling her that she's nothing, that nobody cares about her which makes her nothing. They both said things that shouldn't have been said.
Someone else gets it! The Kenny lovers acting like he's the only one whose lost people in this apocolypse.
Come on! Give Lilly a break she just lost her dad and... Oh wait who killed him before even losing anyone?
Lets face it Kenny was never that stable even before he lost people he loved.
Kenny was far gone, that was obvious. Which is why I think Jane was insane to make that decision "to prove a point" that was the deal sealer for me.
They were both right and wrong in several of their points towards the other, which is why I think we will have to settle on that the choices are perfectly viable depending on what kind of person you would trust more.
And I suppose that's where the two of us differ
It just.... it just isn't the same without a boat
OK, not in the place where Arvo runs, that indeed wasn't the smartest idea. But that doesn't change the fact that being around a person who constantly wants to beat you up is not a good scenario.
Are you saying I would lose my mind if someone tried to tell me a baby died during a zombie apocolypse?
My god I wish I could show you how ridiculous you sound right now.
"i wish ma boat was here"
wow so much kenny hate so much xDD lol
Bottom line is her saying it was an accident was a flat out lie. She did nothing more than try and manipulate Clem into siding with her. However I honored her wish of "no matter what happens, stay out of it." And end in the end all those people claiming Kenny would come unhinged and eventually hurt Clem were proven wrong when he delivered Clem and AJ to Wellington and then begged for them to be allowed to stay.
Boat Jr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8T095mFdW8
But see, you can't use the "He lost people" argument because everyone has lost people. Jane lost her sister. Clem lost everyone. Luke lost all his friends. The most predictable thing about Kenny was his unpredictability and his raging temper and his temper always got the best of him which is why I had to kill him.
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not "a baby"!
The baby you promised to watch out for!
Why Everyone is begging mean to Jane?!! rebbeca,Kenny, and the rest of the group kept saying that they can't trust her.. forgotten.. She is the one who gave them the idea to get out of carver place,she is the one who helped Rebecca with the "cow catcher" plan and she opened the gift shop for them so Rebecca can feel safe to put her baby and she killed that Russian guy to save KENNY and the rest of them,and if she only care about her self why did she help Clem to get out of the frozen lake and Kenny is the one who started the fight and after all carver camp was the best place for all of them,She deserve some respect
Arvo had little choice but to agree with them. I mean... what was the alternative? He got a good deal out of it, which he most definitely did not deserve even a little.
She has some respect. But lost most of it when she decided to manipulate people, insulted Kenny's dead family and girlfriend, pretended to let a baby die to prove some point while theres tons of walkers around, leaving the baby in a car with an OPEN window and said walkers. The baby only needed to cry to serve as a dinner bell.
She messed up completely. And to keep forcing us to prefer being alone... I don't get it. Its allways better to be in a group imo. Strength in numbers, taking watch, how is Clem (if she took the solo ending) going to protect AJ if she sleeps? No one around to protect her...
I don't hate Kenny. I just think its nuts to think he's perfect in everyway when the game went out of its way to show you he's not.
The baby he latched onto because he can't over Duck and sees the baby as his last chance at having something to care about.
Oh cool! So he didn't become unhinged and kill Jane. Awesome. I was wrong about him all along!
She did something that Kenny fans disagree with.
Therefore she is literally worse than Hitler :P
well you started the jane thing i didnt refer anything with it and Poof u came and said kenny is ********
why so hate ?
toad just because u went to the farm do pull ur hate on kenny go to bigby he made you go to the farm
Oh he killed her. Turns out he was justified.
Oh..... I see
Kenny can never do anything wrong
Good to know.
Its what Kenny would've wanted. All he wanted was Clem to be safe...
You're entitled to your opinion, but the "elusive" Wellington? How can it be elusive when it was an actual fact. Wellington exits and Kenny cave up his own position and safety so two young children with futures ahead of them could have a better chance in the world. That takes really heart, he owned up to his flaws as well and that takes a lot of courage. He knows he's done a lot of bad, where as Jane- she's just cold.
Hyperbole much? Hes not perfect but he sure as shit doesn't manipulate you and cost people their lives just to prove a point. Btw I was just doing as Jane asked when she told me to "stay out of it. "
Yes but still he didn't have to tell his group that he stole the medicine , but he could have told them to put the guns down because someone else robbed him not Clem . So i don't know if he was just a prick or simply an idiot but because of him Clems group got in a realy shity situation . Again i'm not here to prove that befriending Arvo is a bad thing i'm simply presenting my oppinion .
She wanted to prove how dangerous Kenny was, so of course she wasn't goint to attack first. She needed to make herself look like the victim.
What an awful timing to prove a point though. Deliberately leaving a helpless baby that could easily attract walkers, taunting a broken man knowing the consequences that would bring and manipulating you into potentially killing him just to make you know this man is dangerous? which is complete and utter bullshit, if you get his ending you'll realize Kenny wanted NOTHING but yours and AJ safety.
Can you say that about Jane?. No. She was crazy, manipulative, cold and deserved what she got.