Does anybody feel like Mike and Bonnie's betrayal are out of charcter?

13»

Comments

  • That isn't "one thing" it's horrible. Sh knew Carver before he became like that, I don't blame her for not seeing or notwanting to see how he is, he showed he can be really charismatic when he needs to, like in Ep2. Many of us said we're loyal to Kenny even though he is changing like that . It isn't stupid making friends with her as it's part of what Telltale intended. There's no stupid choice in the game, it's all player preference

    Gomu posted: »

    Nothing Lee did was on Bonnie's level so they can't be compared. Killing someone out of anger or fear is one thing, but lying and scheming w

  • No, Mike wasn't acting out of character, it's just that we hadn't seen him for what he really was until now. He is coward-ish at the very least.

    Remember how desperate he was to get away from Carver? He felt exactly the same way near Kenny. He, like many other people at this point, also believed that Kenny was becoming much like Carver.

    Don't forget that the little he had seem from Kenny was a show of hostility (when Kenny pinned him against the wall) and brutality (when Kenny killed Carver and beat up Arvo multiple times). He was legitimately afraid of Kenny. He didn't know Kenny's good traits like Clementine did, his only impression of Kenny was that he was a violent, hostile tyrant who would hurt anyone that might get on his bad side.

    Even though he still had humanity, fear got the best of him, so he chose to leave ASAP with the only people he had interacted enough to trust - Bonnie and Arvo - (unlike Jane) and who had nothing to do with Kenny (Clementine and the baby).

  • edited September 2014

    This is going to be my personal analysis of Bonnie. I'll have a TL;DR at the end if it gets too long. I really don't like Bonnie, and I still do think aspects of her character in the finale was out of character, but this is me trying to understand her actions. I could be totally off base, but hey. I gave it a shot.

    From the very beginning of her own personal story, we see her attach herself to these alpha male, strong leaders. There's Leland, who's there when she's struggling with her drug addiction. Someone who tells her that she's been doing well, will continue to be this strong, and has kept her safe thus far. This support system falls apart when Dee begins to suspect a romance between them, Bonnie accidentally kills her, and Bonnie either convinces Leland to come with her or stay behind only to die. If she convinces him to come with, she will either be abandoned by him (as mentioned in the epilogue) or she will abandon him for being too possessive and controlling. Either way, she loses him and is on her own. Where does she jump to next at first invitation? Carver's community, run by a manipulative leader. This place, again, offers her solace from any issues that the cabin group will come to find on their own (hunger, lack of supplies and resources, etc.) She rejects any notion that Carver is as evil as people say he is - even chooses him and the safety he provides over running off to be with Luke and their friends. She'll continue to argue that he's only stressed and does things out of necessity until Reggie's death snaps her out of it.

    This boils down to Luke and Kenny. Having had some sort of history prior to his breakout, Bonnie looks to Luke to be their capable leader. She's ultimately disappointed to find him hooking up with Jane. She's sad by this, as evident by multiple moments where she's turned away from him and lets her emotions show, but tries not to show it. Luke drowns after falling through thin ice, leaving her alone with the remainder of this group she's struggling to trust. It's important to note that Bonnie, by now, is extremely bitter about her experiences with the men in her life. All of them have let her down in some sort of way eventually, and she tells Clementine to her face that she's let men control her life for far too long. She wants to be independent, to be strong, but has failed to do so by depending on these males for so long.

    She distrusts Kenny, doesn't see him as the type of person she wants to be around anymore. Not only does she not trust Kenny, but if you had only covered Luke, she distrusts Clementine. She's not only projecting the anger towards herself for not saving Luke onto Clementine, but sees Clementine as another person to let her down. Possibly even sees Clementine as another potential Kenny (a line you can get from Jane if you tell her to stop antagonizing Kenny in the car). She thinks Clementine would never abandon her old group member and so she leaves. Her leaving is to counter her frustration with leaving her life in the hands of men for so long - asserting her independence. Her taking of all the supplies, leaving two children to starve and freeze to death, can either come from her grudge (if Clementine had not saved Luke) or from impulsiveness (which has been shown by her not thinking through things clearly enough, like leading Carver to the ski lodge or walking towards Luke on already breaking ice).

    TL;DR: Bonnie seeks security from the men in her life in such a desperate time (Leland, Luke, Carver). She depends on these guys and is selfish in that she'll hurt others to keep herself save. When she's inevitably abandoned or let down by them, she'll rant bitterly about it to Clem. Kenny threatens that safety she wanted, as well as possibly reminds her of the alpha males she so strongly hates now, and she leaves. She's also incredibly impulsive, never thinking her plans or actions through enough. Her ignorance lead Carver to kill members of the cabin and ski lodge, Luke drowning, and leaving Clementine to die with no supplies. She so badly wants security but is also fed up with the alphas. A good person.. but selfish.

Sign in to comment in this discussion.