Trust her to do what? Sit in a corner and cry more? If Sarah actually cares she would actually try to be useful and not just do nothing and get people killed.
Trust her to do what? Sit in a corner and cry more? If Sarah actually cares she would actually try to be useful and not just do nothing and get people killed.
She stood up for Clementine a lot, did you forget that?
She went against her dad to get help for Clementine.
There are tons of times she did something risky for Clem.
She stood up for Clementine a lot, did you forget that?
She went against her dad to get help for Clementine.
There are tons of times she did something risky for Clem.
I prefer someone that is "useless" than someone that is unreliable , a liar that would let people die only because she doesnt want to help and ony cares about her own ass
More so of a choice of do you want to be with liability who would only get you killed or someone actually useful and who does something helpful instead of sitting and crying.
I don't dislike Jane because I think she's broken in the same way so many other people are. She's not the stone cold badass a lot of forumites are but simply a young girl like Clementine who learned some bad lessons.
I still pick Sarah but I wish I could help Jane recover.
Instead, I picked Kenny at the end because he's family.
On a serious note, I'll agree with the majority here. Jane was a very unsympathetic and incompetent character, despite Telltale's attempts to convince us otherwise. Personally, Christa was a far more likable 'strong female character' who didn't abandon children, threaten disabled kids provoke psychotic men or do other hair-brained aggressive manuevers in order to convince an audience that she was "tuff."
I'd much rather deal with the burdens of taking care of a kind if ineffectual person over having to tolerate a self-pitying, cold-blooded idiot.
I'm surprised by the amount of Sarah's. I would also saver her, we were friends and I want to teach her how to be strong and survive without her dad. Fuck Jane, she just uses Clem as a replacement for her dead sister.
If it was in the case of the last choice where Sarah dies anyway; that you could save her but Jane would be sacrificed I would still choose to save Sarah (try to)
If it was a clear cut choice where I had to choose one or the other similar to the Doug/Carley one, and I had no meta knowledge of future events; I would probably save Jane.
Yeah, a couple of replays made me realize just what an idiot Jane really is. She has some useful tricks for dealing with the dead (most of which Clem already knew) but when it comes to living, she's fucking clueless. Even though I agreed with her Kenny was losing it, constantly egging him on is just like pouring fuel on the fire. If you don't decide anything during the Arvo scene, Jane actually LETS HIM GO, then she says Clementine is letting supplies walk away because Clem couldn't make a decision...
What the fuck bitch? You're the one who started the robbery, Clem isn't objecting, what the fuck? Jane's really a coward at heart. She doesn't get close to people, but only because she's afraid of losing them. She's not brave enough to stand up and help people, but nor does she actually have the nerve to be ruthless and just take what she wants/need. So she has the dubious dishonor of being an unlikeable scumbag, but with none of the actual perks that come with it. She acts like a tough guy, but can't actually deal, which makes everything worse.
If she had just killed Arvo and robbed him, well then at least that's one less thing to worry about. If she had just talked to him after disarming him, they probably could find out more about his people, maybe even get an idea of where they are so they could be avoided, or hell, maybe even convince them to help. Instead she threatens to kill him, then let's him go so he can tell everybody about the crazy assholes he ran into. It's like Jane is pushing Clem into doing things Jane won't actually do herself, and it's really sick. Like she needs an eleven year old to do her dirty work. Like how she looks surprised when Clem sends that family packing in the Howe's ending. She's advocating that, but doesn't actually want to do it so she's hoping Clem will.
Her writing off Sarah and Jamie is weird considering how she'll instantly save Clem from stupid things like the lake. Again, it makes it seem's like she has some weird fixation on this little girl she just met. And again it seems hypocritical to tell Clem to leave Sarah, but Jane herself will jump into a frozen lake to save Clem from her own stupidity. I'm starting to think Jane's previous groups fell apart because she kept telling them one thing and doing another. Her fucking Luke also seems pretty careless unless the Parker's Run gift shop sold condoms. How ironic if miss lone survivor got pregnant because she had careless unprotected sex.
It would have really been nice to turn the Sarah thing around on Jane. You get the "Would you leave me behind?" option but something more dramatic would have been better. If Sarah gets left in the trailer park and you're hearing Jane bullshit on about Jamie, it'd be awesome if you could have Clem actually point a gun at her own head. Then coldly ask what Jane is going to do about it. "What if I don't feel like going on without Sarah? You gonna drag me with you or just leave me?" Finally call Jane out on her stupid nonsense.
Christa.
On a serious note, I'll agree with the majority here. Jane was a very unsympathetic and incompetent character, despite Telltale… more's attempts to convince us otherwise. Personally, Christa was a far more likable 'strong female character' who didn't abandon children, threaten disabled kids provoke psychotic men or do other hair-brained aggressive manuevers in order to convince an audience that she was "tuff."
I'd much rather deal with the burdens of taking care of a kind if ineffectual person over having to tolerate a self-pitying, cold-blooded idiot.
I've been given this choice before, it was fake but it appeared to be the same choice, I chose Sarah 3 times (Actually 6 since I thought Jane was going to die in the trailer park too), because the damn game asked me 3 times and while I won't pretend it wasn't hard as hell, in fact each time it asked me I hesitated more but it was very clear that my choice was Sarah, so Sarah, I don't have to explain why since it doesn't matter the choice was made and that's what matters.
I think the intention behind her character is that she's tragic BECAUSE she doesn't have the 'guts' to fully commit to being a monster. If you tolerate her long enough to return to Howes with her, she regains her humanity by allowing a starving family in if Clem doesn't decide - something which a lot of posters here lack the decency to do because THEY'RE DEFINITELY ROBBERS AND AWW ISN'T CLEMENTINE BADASS FOR THREATENING TO KILL A CHILD BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE SHARING?
But her rough treatment of Arvo was wholly unnecessary and doubtlessly contributed to the grudge he carried against Clem's group. They could have easily hidden, or even taken the chance of cooperating with him rather than making an enemy. Then in the next episode, she has the audacity to 'defend' him against Kenny without ever apologizing to Arvo or recognizing her role in starting the grudge that led to the gunfight in the first place. And unlike Luke, she doesn't have the excuse of constant days of sleeplessly pursuing her friends, getting her ribs cracked, or just recently losing her best friend, to explain why she does something as impractical as screw a complete stranger.
Yeah, a couple of replays made me realize just what an idiot Jane really is. She has some useful tricks for dealing with the dead (most of w… morehich Clem already knew) but when it comes to living, she's fucking clueless. Even though I agreed with her Kenny was losing it, constantly egging him on is just like pouring fuel on the fire. If you don't decide anything during the Arvo scene, Jane actually LETS HIM GO, then she says Clementine is letting supplies walk away because Clem couldn't make a decision...
What the fuck bitch? You're the one who started the robbery, Clem isn't objecting, what the fuck? Jane's really a coward at heart. She doesn't get close to people, but only because she's afraid of losing them. She's not brave enough to stand up and help people, but nor does she actually have the nerve to be ruthless and just take what she wants/need. So she has the dubious dishonor of being an unlikeable scumbag, but with none of the actual p… [view original content]
Wow, I look at these comments and a majority of people are saying Sarah.
What are the Jane apologists talking about when they say Sarah h… moreasn't got a fanbase?
I'd save Sarah within in a heartbeat.
I'd happily leave Jane to die, as she's a dumb person with no morals, and even looks like a monkey
Trust her to do what? Sit in a corner and cry more? If Sarah actually cares she would actually try to be useful and not just do nothing and get people killed.
Without Sarah disobeying her father and giving Clem peroxide, even when Clementine can be a complete douche to her, Clem's arm would have gotten infected.
By determinantly saying that it was her fault in the first place about the photo. If anything Clementine was standing up for Sarah by trying to take the blame for it.
There was also that one determinant scene where Carver slaps Clem and Sarah says leave her alone.
She stood up for Clementine a lot, did you forget that?
Nope, only in that one instance. Two if you really want to count the picture thing. The rest of the game she just went back to sitting and crying.
She stood up for Clementine a lot, did you forget that?
She went against her dad to get help for Clementine.
There are tons of times she did something risky for Clem.
You dodged just about all the responses that gave you a clear reason as to why Sarah is more trustable.
Let's not be a hypocrite, shall we?
And they didn't dodge the question. CreepyCake gave a clear response as to why.
I'd rather someone with a personality, who I know won't leave me behind, is reliable and teachable, will have my back basically all the time, than someone who wants to hide babies to start a fight.
More so of a choice of do you want to be with liability who would only get you killed or someone actually useful and who does something helpful instead of sitting and crying.
Stood up for Clementine? For what?
By determinantly saying that it was her fault in the first place about the photo. If anything Clementi… morene was standing up for Sarah by trying to take the blame for it.
There was also that one determinant scene where Carver slaps Clem and Sarah says leave her alone.
She stood up for Clementine a lot, did you forget that?
Nope, only in that one instance. Two if you really want to count the picture thing. The rest of the game she just went back to sitting and crying.
He and the other replies just made silly responses which were dodging the question.
What? I made myself clear. Here is my response if you need to read it again
Because people like Sarah's personality more than Jane's. Jane is cold hearted and nobody can relate to her, or agree what she believes. Even by the end of the game she still is cold hearted by hiding AJ and getting Clementine to kill Kenny out of her own selfish desires.
What was to respond to? Silly posts of characters that were not even intended to be answers? The pictures were to show in a situation where in one a person was leading a child and a pregnant woman to safety and in the other a person causing a panic with no regards to anyone around which could have caused the death of everyone around her.
Don't try to play dumb, you know exactly what I'm talking about. He clearly responded to you;
Because people like Sarah's personality more than Jane's. Jane is cold hearted and nobody can relate to her, or agree what she believes. Even by the end of the game she still is cold hearted by hiding AJ and getting Clementine to kill Kenny out of her own selfish desires.
And you clearly ignored.
Please, next time, don't be such a hypocrite. Okay, sweetie? Okay.
What was to respond to? Silly posts of characters that were not even intended to be answers? The pictures were to show in a situation where … morein one a person was leading a child and a pregnant woman to safety and in the other a person causing a panic with no regards to anyone around which could have caused the death of everyone around her.
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Trust her to do what? Sit in a corner and cry more? If Sarah actually cares she would actually try to be useful and not just do nothing and get people killed.
She stood up for Clementine a lot, did you forget that?
She went against her dad to get help for Clementine.
There are tons of times she did something risky for Clem.
Exactly
This.
I prefer someone that is "useless" than someone that is unreliable , a liar that would let people die only because she doesnt want to help and ony cares about her own ass
I don't dislike Jane because I think she's broken in the same way so many other people are. She's not the stone cold badass a lot of forumites are but simply a young girl like Clementine who learned some bad lessons.
I still pick Sarah but I wish I could help Jane recover.
Instead, I picked Kenny at the end because he's family.
Christa.
On a serious note, I'll agree with the majority here. Jane was a very unsympathetic and incompetent character, despite Telltale's attempts to convince us otherwise. Personally, Christa was a far more likable 'strong female character' who didn't abandon children, threaten disabled kids provoke psychotic men or do other hair-brained aggressive manuevers in order to convince an audience that she was "tuff."
I'd much rather deal with the burdens of taking care of a kind if ineffectual person over having to tolerate a self-pitying, cold-blooded idiot.
Sarah, she is someone who hasn't lost her humanity, who hasn't succumbed to the dark intentions of the world and everything that surrounds her.
I'm surprised by the amount of Sarah's. I would also saver her, we were friends and I want to teach her how to be strong and survive without her dad. Fuck Jane, she just uses Clem as a replacement for her dead sister.
Sarah
If it was in the case of the last choice where Sarah dies anyway; that you could save her but Jane would be sacrificed I would still choose to save Sarah (try to)
If it was a clear cut choice where I had to choose one or the other similar to the Doug/Carley one, and I had no meta knowledge of future events; I would probably save Jane.
Yeah, a couple of replays made me realize just what an idiot Jane really is. She has some useful tricks for dealing with the dead (most of which Clem already knew) but when it comes to living, she's fucking clueless. Even though I agreed with her Kenny was losing it, constantly egging him on is just like pouring fuel on the fire. If you don't decide anything during the Arvo scene, Jane actually LETS HIM GO, then she says Clementine is letting supplies walk away because Clem couldn't make a decision...
What the fuck bitch? You're the one who started the robbery, Clem isn't objecting, what the fuck? Jane's really a coward at heart. She doesn't get close to people, but only because she's afraid of losing them. She's not brave enough to stand up and help people, but nor does she actually have the nerve to be ruthless and just take what she wants/need. So she has the dubious dishonor of being an unlikeable scumbag, but with none of the actual perks that come with it. She acts like a tough guy, but can't actually deal, which makes everything worse.
If she had just killed Arvo and robbed him, well then at least that's one less thing to worry about. If she had just talked to him after disarming him, they probably could find out more about his people, maybe even get an idea of where they are so they could be avoided, or hell, maybe even convince them to help. Instead she threatens to kill him, then let's him go so he can tell everybody about the crazy assholes he ran into. It's like Jane is pushing Clem into doing things Jane won't actually do herself, and it's really sick. Like she needs an eleven year old to do her dirty work. Like how she looks surprised when Clem sends that family packing in the Howe's ending. She's advocating that, but doesn't actually want to do it so she's hoping Clem will.
Her writing off Sarah and Jamie is weird considering how she'll instantly save Clem from stupid things like the lake. Again, it makes it seem's like she has some weird fixation on this little girl she just met. And again it seems hypocritical to tell Clem to leave Sarah, but Jane herself will jump into a frozen lake to save Clem from her own stupidity. I'm starting to think Jane's previous groups fell apart because she kept telling them one thing and doing another. Her fucking Luke also seems pretty careless unless the Parker's Run gift shop sold condoms. How ironic if miss lone survivor got pregnant because she had careless unprotected sex.
It would have really been nice to turn the Sarah thing around on Jane. You get the "Would you leave me behind?" option but something more dramatic would have been better. If Sarah gets left in the trailer park and you're hearing Jane bullshit on about Jamie, it'd be awesome if you could have Clem actually point a gun at her own head. Then coldly ask what Jane is going to do about it. "What if I don't feel like going on without Sarah? You gonna drag me with you or just leave me?" Finally call Jane out on her stupid nonsense.
Jane.
I would pick Jane, mainly because I lover her character, but my Clem would rather have Sarah.
I've been given this choice before, it was fake but it appeared to be the same choice, I chose Sarah 3 times (Actually 6 since I thought Jane was going to die in the trailer park too), because the damn game asked me 3 times and while I won't pretend it wasn't hard as hell, in fact each time it asked me I hesitated more but it was very clear that my choice was Sarah, so Sarah, I don't have to explain why since it doesn't matter the choice was made and that's what matters.
Wow, I look at these comments and a majority of people are saying Sarah.
What are the Jane apologists talking about when they say Sarah hasn't got a fanbase?
I'd save Sarah within in a heartbeat.
Interesting question because both are pretty damn flawed. But I'd pick Jane. Sarah is more of an albatross than Jane would possibly ever be.
I think the intention behind her character is that she's tragic BECAUSE she doesn't have the 'guts' to fully commit to being a monster. If you tolerate her long enough to return to Howes with her, she regains her humanity by allowing a starving family in if Clem doesn't decide - something which a lot of posters here lack the decency to do because THEY'RE DEFINITELY ROBBERS AND AWW ISN'T CLEMENTINE BADASS FOR THREATENING TO KILL A CHILD BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE SHARING?
But her rough treatment of Arvo was wholly unnecessary and doubtlessly contributed to the grudge he carried against Clem's group. They could have easily hidden, or even taken the chance of cooperating with him rather than making an enemy. Then in the next episode, she has the audacity to 'defend' him against Kenny without ever apologizing to Arvo or recognizing her role in starting the grudge that led to the gunfight in the first place. And unlike Luke, she doesn't have the excuse of constant days of sleeplessly pursuing her friends, getting her ribs cracked, or just recently losing her best friend, to explain why she does something as impractical as screw a complete stranger.
If they don't like Sarah therefore no one likes Sarah.
Sarah can't defend herself. Jane can. When it comes down to it, Jane should be able to save herself.
logic101 with jane apologists
I think I see why
You just did that to @CreepingCake 's comment. You know, where he completely shut you down?
Without Sarah disobeying her father and giving Clem peroxide, even when Clementine can be a complete douche to her, Clem's arm would have gotten infected.
Honey, I trust walkers more than I trust Jane.
I do not see in any way his comment shut me down. He and the other replies just made silly responses which were dodging the question.
You dodged just about all the responses that gave you a clear reason as to why Sarah is more trustable.
Let's not be a hypocrite, shall we?
And they didn't dodge the question. CreepyCake gave a clear response as to why.
lol I've been waiting for his/her response for hours.
Stood up for Clementine? For what?
By determinantly saying that it was her fault in the first place about the photo. If anything Clementine was standing up for Sarah by trying to take the blame for it.
There was also that one determinant scene where Carver slaps Clem and Sarah says leave her alone.
Nope, only in that one instance. Two if you really want to count the picture thing. The rest of the game she just went back to sitting and crying.
Also dodged mine too.
I'd imagine so.
Can I get a clap for hypocrisy?
Looks like they're dodging mine right now. But, I won't jump to conclusions.
I'd rather someone with a personality, who I know won't leave me behind, is reliable and teachable, will have my back basically all the time, than someone who wants to hide babies to start a fight.
Did you ignore her going against her dad to get Clem supplies?
She stands up for Clem to Carver, she trusts Clem with the gun she found, she went against Carver while trying to chat with Carver.
There are many examples but you are ignoring them, why?
They must be like Greg, probably cheered at her death.
They are ignoring all the times she helped and only remembering the times when her perfect image of her father was broken and when her father died.
To be fair, every fanbase has their share of idiots.
Walkers will at least follow you and not run away when things get hard.
What? I made myself clear. Here is my response if you need to read it again
What was to respond to? Silly posts of characters that were not even intended to be answers? The pictures were to show in a situation where in one a person was leading a child and a pregnant woman to safety and in the other a person causing a panic with no regards to anyone around which could have caused the death of everyone around her.
Don't try to play dumb, you know exactly what I'm talking about. He clearly responded to you;
And you clearly ignored.
Please, next time, don't be such a hypocrite. Okay, sweetie? Okay.