Like Metallica said, it's the one who leads the group of writers for the project, they take care of the most of the work while they let their colleagues take care of portions of the story while the lead writer will observe/suggest/improve the others' scripts, something like an editor would do.
Yes, he overlooked the season, but Mark Darwin was the one who wrote 102 and created the St. Johns, along with Sean's approval. So basically 99.50% of the credit of the those villains in 102 goes to Mark for the creation while 0.50 % goes to Sean for the approval.
grabs a boy and holds a gun to his head to attempt to coerce the other Russian in giving up. Then later later the same day he nearly beats the boy to death with his hands.
Carver basically does the same thing with Alvin, for what it's worth
I didn't think Carver was a "villain" There aren't any good guys/ bad guys anymore. He reminded me a lot of my dad, like how he would be nic… moree one moment call me Sport, then the next moment he pushes someone off a roof. You learn not to piss him off, for your own self preservation. He was a mean old sunofabitch, but at least he taught me respect. Why didn't anyone ever try to befriend Carver, he was obviously a good leader/provider for his group, he just needed some counseling to be a little bit more understanding, and things would of been golden.
Kenny is more of a villain than Carver. was, throughout the episodes he would get progressively worse. If Carver was such a bad guy why didn't he just shoot them all during the escape attempt. There was always that part of him that held back , that Kenny Lacked. Kenny destroyed the mans face, then grabs a boy and holds a gun to his head to attempt to coerce the other Russian in giving up. Then later later the same day he nearly beats the boy to death with his hands.
It's hard to compare the St. Johns and Carver because they're completely different in a number of ways. For example, before the apocalypse I doubt the St. Johns were already cannibals (even if they were a bit strange), whilst I'd imagine Carver had always been hard and ruthless in everything he did. See, Carver was a really bad guy through and through whilst the St. Johns had just adapted to their environment.
Besides, trying to build up to how bad Carver is (like they did with the St. Johns) would be stupid, since when we join the group in Season 2 they've already ran away and know what he's like. Telltale try their best to disguise his character by ignoring him for the majority of the first and second episodes of Season 2, but anyone can guess that if they've ran away from safety to get away from this one guy then he must be pretty bad. So right from the first time we hear his name we know he's a villain, and try to disguise that fact would be impossible. The real tension is created by not knowing what he looks like, which is why I'm not that big a fan of the scene in the lodge in season 2: Carver's smart and knows the group will be looking out for him, so why did he go there alone and risk getting perhaps shot by them?? It would have been better if he'd sent another character (maybe Troy) to look over the place, and then later on we saw who Carver really was and that Troy was only working for him.
With the St. Johns its different- we of course have no idea who they are so Telltale can then build up there characters and our understanding of them, climaxing at the point when we find Mike (is that his name?) with his legs cut off.
Good point, and I must agree that it is very cruel to give someone false hope only to crush it. I must be honest though, I never saw Reggie dying so suddenly when I first saw him, though on reflection it makes sense. I mean, I expected him to die, but for him to die so suddenly and brutally was a brilliant bit of story telling from Telltale- I personally had not seen that coming. It may sounds odd to say this, but I hadn't been that much against Carver when I first encountered him; he was smart and a survivor, two qualities I can respect. Even after he shot Walter I was still more on the fence- Walter was always going to die so I didn't really care about him, plus I reasoned that Kenny had just killed one of his guys. It was only when he killed Reggie, who was completely defenceless and an ok guy, that I really hated Carver.
Maybe I am the only one who saw it this way but I always saw Reggie as the fall guy (hah, get it?). He was the one who got left behind but w… moreas still involved with the escape plan. Call me a sadist, but if I wanted to punish someone for that I would give them hope they had a chance to return to my good graces but the second they are done licking my boots and right before they "get back in" you murk 'em. That to me is the cruelest thing someone could do, and it was the feeling I got the second I saw Reggie begging for Carver's approval. He kept him around to make an example of him once he got everyone back. The way he secretly offs him though doesn't really insinuate this though. Maybe it was because I wanted Carver to be cynical and calculating. But they kinda flushed that down the pooper.
grabs a boy and holds a gun to his head to attempt to coerce the other Russian in giving up. Then later later the same day he nearly beats the boy to death with his hands.
Carver basically does the same thing with Alvin, for what it's worth
Andy shows humanity when lost his entire family. he is sick and crazy, But at least care for someone. Danny was the one who made me feel afraid, besides anger. The way he treats the gun, his psycho face. looked like he was going to kill me anytime. I had some sympathy for Andy at the end, i feel sad about him. Of course im not advocating canibalism, but andy could have been a good guy
Carver was just the typical crazy and inhuman villain. he did not even scared me. I was just waiting to kick your ass.I only had anger and nothing else. Troy was worse, Only the idiot right hand of Carver. I was very angry and laughed when Jane killed him
I disagree, he cared about his group, his unborn child, making his place better to live for his community. Rebecca just ran off with his kid, that child was important to him.
Like Metallica said, it's the one who leads the group of writers for the project, they take care of the most of the work while they let thei… morer colleagues take care of portions of the story while the lead writer will observe/suggest/improve the others' scripts, something like an editor would do.
Yes, he overlooked the season, but Mark Darwin was the one who wrote 102 and created the St. Johns, along with Sean's approval. So basically 99.50% of the credit of the those villains in 102 goes to Mark for the creation while 0.50 % goes to Sean for the approval.
Carver only cared about power and dominance
I disagree, he cared about his group, his unborn child, making his place better to live for his community. Rebecca just ran off with his kid, that child was important to him.
It certainly was predictable, but I don't agree that they were evil, they generally did seem like they used to be good folk until the apocalypse hit, and even then when they were revealed, Brenda and Andy did somewhat show some SOME signs of not really enjoying what they were doing, except for Danny, but he's an exception, because he had that creepy and unsettling factor to him instead of being a cartoon like Carver.
The St. Johns looked evil from the start.
Telltale didn't learn to be more subtle with Carver either. I wish our first encounter with him was more neutral - no evil music, a more vibrant color scheme, no Sarah cowering in terror.
Yes, he overlooked the season, but Mark Darwin was the one who wrote 102 and created the St. Johns, along with Sean's approval. So basically 99.50% of the credit of the those villains in 102 goes to Mark for the creation while 0.50 % goes to Sean for the approval.
Nice. You work at Telltale? how is it in there?
It's nice to get confirmation from Telltale that Mark Darin 99.50% SURELY created those villains even though they were already in the "Next time on The Walking Dead" of Episode 1 created by Vanaman.
Like Metallica said, it's the one who leads the group of writers for the project, they take care of the most of the work while they let thei… morer colleagues take care of portions of the story while the lead writer will observe/suggest/improve the others' scripts, something like an editor would do.
Yes, he overlooked the season, but Mark Darwin was the one who wrote 102 and created the St. Johns, along with Sean's approval. So basically 99.50% of the credit of the those villains in 102 goes to Mark for the creation while 0.50 % goes to Sean for the approval.
I'm embarrassed to admit, but it actually took me a while to figure out that the St. Johns were evil. (Granted, I didn't think the dairy wou… moreld be completely safe.) It wasn't until Brenda refused to let Lee see Mark that I caught on. With that said, I thought they were great villains, and they really made the episode for me. There's really nothing to say about Carver; he was just your stock psychotic dictator. TellTale could have handled him a lot better, but I guess it just boils down to lazy writing.
I'm embarrassed to admit, but it actually took me a while to figure out that the St. Johns were evil. (Granted, I didn't think the dairy wou… moreld be completely safe.) It wasn't until Brenda refused to let Lee see Mark that I caught on. With that said, I thought they were great villains, and they really made the episode for me. There's really nothing to say about Carver; he was just your stock psychotic dictator. TellTale could have handled him a lot better, but I guess it just boils down to lazy writing.
Hey now, no need to be hostile, my friend. I'm just making an assumption with the percentages, but the knowledge I gathered here n the forums is what helped me understand what a Lead writer is. I maybe entirely right, or somewhat right. And besides, you can't always give Vanaman all the credit every time, he had a creative team, likely one of partners came up with the St. Johns, an early idea concept so it can be in the preview.
Yes, he overlooked the season, but Mark Darwin was the one who wrote 102 and created the St. Johns, along with Sean's approval. So basically… more 99.50% of the credit of the those villains in 102 goes to Mark for the creation while 0.50 % goes to Sean for the approval.
Nice. You work at Telltale? how is it in there?
It's nice to get confirmation from Telltale that Mark Darin 99.50% SURELY created those villains even though they were already in the "Next time on The Walking Dead" of Episode 1 created by Vanaman.
1- Because he wanted to turn clem into Carver 2.0. when he start shooting at everybody, clem and the others would attack him furiously and kick his ass. even with 2 or 3 deaths in the group, I doubt he could kill everyone before he got killed by clem. he kept almost everyone alive to continue the atmosphere fear, with psychological torture and etc.he was fascinated with clem. 90% of his cruel acts were to torture clem. You can see this when he kill Regie
2- He wanted to turn AJ into carver 3.0, so he could not kill rebecca.
basically, everyone was alive only to be tortured by Carver gradually and killed after
Carver is a psychopathic killer, torturer. Kenny just beat Arvo because he was Angry, he almost died for the ambush that the Russian group began, including Arvo. Kenny didnt even know the russians, But they tried to kill him. For something that Jane and Clementine (determinant) did. I forgive Jane for this, even more because she saved Kenny life. Imagine if Kenny had died in the shooting. It would be all because the russians
When arvo " Atacked " first Kenny has every right to be angry with him
I didn't think Carver was a "villain" There aren't any good guys/ bad guys anymore. He reminded me a lot of my dad, like how he would be nic… moree one moment call me Sport, then the next moment he pushes someone off a roof. You learn not to piss him off, for your own self preservation. He was a mean old sunofabitch, but at least he taught me respect. Why didn't anyone ever try to befriend Carver, he was obviously a good leader/provider for his group, he just needed some counseling to be a little bit more understanding, and things would of been golden.
Kenny is more of a villain than Carver. was, throughout the episodes he would get progressively worse. If Carver was such a bad guy why didn't he just shoot them all during the escape attempt. There was always that part of him that held back , that Kenny Lacked. Kenny destroyed the mans face, then grabs a boy and holds a gun to his head to attempt to coerce the other Russian in giving up. Then later later the same day he nearly beats the boy to death with his hands.
Hey now, no need to be hostile, my friend. I'm just making an assumption with the percentages, but the knowledge I gathered here n the forum… mores is what helped me understand what a Lead writer is. I maybe entirely right, or somewhat right. And besides, you can't always give Vanaman all the credit every time, he had a creative team, likely one of partners came up with the St. Johns, an early idea concept so it can be in the preview.
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Like Metallica said, it's the one who leads the group of writers for the project, they take care of the most of the work while they let their colleagues take care of portions of the story while the lead writer will observe/suggest/improve the others' scripts, something like an editor would do.
Yes, he overlooked the season, but Mark Darwin was the one who wrote 102 and created the St. Johns, along with Sean's approval. So basically 99.50% of the credit of the those villains in 102 goes to Mark for the creation while 0.50 % goes to Sean for the approval.
Carver basically does the same thing with Alvin, for what it's worth
Almost single-handedly... within three days.
Carver ragequit after the first crowbar hit
It's hard to compare the St. Johns and Carver because they're completely different in a number of ways. For example, before the apocalypse I doubt the St. Johns were already cannibals (even if they were a bit strange), whilst I'd imagine Carver had always been hard and ruthless in everything he did. See, Carver was a really bad guy through and through whilst the St. Johns had just adapted to their environment.
Besides, trying to build up to how bad Carver is (like they did with the St. Johns) would be stupid, since when we join the group in Season 2 they've already ran away and know what he's like. Telltale try their best to disguise his character by ignoring him for the majority of the first and second episodes of Season 2, but anyone can guess that if they've ran away from safety to get away from this one guy then he must be pretty bad. So right from the first time we hear his name we know he's a villain, and try to disguise that fact would be impossible. The real tension is created by not knowing what he looks like, which is why I'm not that big a fan of the scene in the lodge in season 2: Carver's smart and knows the group will be looking out for him, so why did he go there alone and risk getting perhaps shot by them?? It would have been better if he'd sent another character (maybe Troy) to look over the place, and then later on we saw who Carver really was and that Troy was only working for him.
With the St. Johns its different- we of course have no idea who they are so Telltale can then build up there characters and our understanding of them, climaxing at the point when we find Mike (is that his name?) with his legs cut off.
Good point, and I must agree that it is very cruel to give someone false hope only to crush it. I must be honest though, I never saw Reggie dying so suddenly when I first saw him, though on reflection it makes sense. I mean, I expected him to die, but for him to die so suddenly and brutally was a brilliant bit of story telling from Telltale- I personally had not seen that coming. It may sounds odd to say this, but I hadn't been that much against Carver when I first encountered him; he was smart and a survivor, two qualities I can respect. Even after he shot Walter I was still more on the fence- Walter was always going to die so I didn't really care about him, plus I reasoned that Kenny had just killed one of his guys. It was only when he killed Reggie, who was completely defenceless and an ok guy, that I really hated Carver.
Big difference from beating a child to beating a adult who you have a history with,
Andy shows humanity when lost his entire family. he is sick and crazy, But at least care for someone. Danny was the one who made me feel afraid, besides anger. The way he treats the gun, his psycho face. looked like he was going to kill me anytime. I had some sympathy for Andy at the end, i feel sad about him. Of course im not advocating canibalism, but andy could have been a good guy
Carver was just the typical crazy and inhuman villain. he did not even scared me. I was just waiting to kick your ass.I only had anger and nothing else. Troy was worse, Only the idiot right hand of Carver. I was very angry and laughed when Jane killed him
So.....
Andy - Sad
Danny - Fear
Carver - Angry
Troy - Angry (x10)
Andy>Danny>>>>>>>>>>>Carver>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Troy
Kenny cared about the people closest to him, Carver only cared about power and dominance.
I disagree, he cared about his group, his unborn child, making his place better to live for his community. Rebecca just ran off with his kid, that child was important to him.
Was Mark named after Mark Darwin? Coincidence? I think not.
If he cared about the group then he wouldn't have forced them to be prisoners in his community.
It certainly was predictable, but I don't agree that they were evil, they generally did seem like they used to be good folk until the apocalypse hit, and even then when they were revealed, Brenda and Andy did somewhat show some SOME signs of not really enjoying what they were doing, except for Danny, but he's an exception, because he had that creepy and unsettling factor to him instead of being a cartoon like Carver.
Nice. You work at Telltale? how is it in there?
It's nice to get confirmation from Telltale that Mark Darin 99.50% SURELY created those villains even though they were already in the "Next time on The Walking Dead" of Episode 1 created by Vanaman.
I agree I was suspicious of them but I didn't automatically think that they were evil. The Saint Johns were way better written villains than Carver
Don't worry I think thats when most people caught on.
Hey now, no need to be hostile, my friend. I'm just making an assumption with the percentages, but the knowledge I gathered here n the forums is what helped me understand what a Lead writer is. I maybe entirely right, or somewhat right. And besides, you can't always give Vanaman all the credit every time, he had a creative team, likely one of partners came up with the St. Johns, an early idea concept so it can be in the preview.
Ever heard of psychopathy? Carver was one.
1- Because he wanted to turn clem into Carver 2.0. when he start shooting at everybody, clem and the others would attack him furiously and kick his ass. even with 2 or 3 deaths in the group, I doubt he could kill everyone before he got killed by clem. he kept almost everyone alive to continue the atmosphere fear, with psychological torture and etc.he was fascinated with clem. 90% of his cruel acts were to torture clem. You can see this when he kill Regie
2- He wanted to turn AJ into carver 3.0, so he could not kill rebecca.
basically, everyone was alive only to be tortured by Carver gradually and killed after
Carver is a psychopathic killer, torturer. Kenny just beat Arvo because he was Angry, he almost died for the ambush that the Russian group began, including Arvo. Kenny didnt even know the russians, But they tried to kill him. For something that Jane and Clementine (determinant) did. I forgive Jane for this, even more because she saved Kenny life. Imagine if Kenny had died in the shooting. It would be all because the russians
When arvo " Atacked " first Kenny has every right to be angry with him
he did care about his group, as in Troy, Tavia and everyone else.
I watched that film only yesterday.