If he would of taken the five minutes to hide his supplies, maybe things would of ended differently for him. He can shift the blame to Kenny all he wants, but in reality your family's safety is your responsibility.
From my perspective, the passenger door is open, not closed. So whatever happened, happened a few hours ago. The car battery light is still on, so we know it was just shortly abandoned maybe a few hours.
Personally i believe his wife ran off, trying to escape him, and he killed her and cut her head off, and placed it in that bag. I didn't see any evidence of him having a child.
So because the door was open its totally fine that we screwed over the family that was already troubled with losing their son in the woods no less then a few hours ago and caused them to fall apart even more?
And seriously what is with you and claiming certain people never existed in the game because they were only mentioned by a character. Even though there was evidence of there being a childs hoody in the car.
Do you understand what i am trying to say?
If he would of taken the five minutes to hide his supplies, maybe things would of ended differ… moreently for him. He can shift the blame to Kenny all he wants, but in reality your family's safety is your responsibility.
From my perspective, the passenger door is open, not closed. So whatever happened, happened a few hours ago. The car battery light is still on, so we know it was just shortly abandoned maybe a few hours.
Personally i believe his wife ran off, trying to escape him, and he killed her and cut her head off, and placed it in that bag. I didn't see any evidence of him having a child.
And seriously what is with you and claiming certain people never existed in the game
Gee, hrm.... I am just going to believe what he tells me. That makes absolute sense. He has what we call zero credibility.
He doesn't seem odd or out of touch at all, I know i must be the odd one here, mean MOST NORMAL PEOPLE walk around with their wives head in a bowling bag. I forgot.
Even though there was evidence of there being a childs hoody in the car.
I have a nephew who is four years old. He leaves his shirt in my car. I do not have a child.
So because the door was open its totally fine that we screwed over the family that was already troubled with losing their son in the woods n… moreo less then a few hours ago and caused them to fall apart even more?
And seriously what is with you and claiming certain people never existed in the game because they were only mentioned by a character. Even though there was evidence of there being a childs hoody in the car.
The group did I didn't. Its really his own fault that any of this occurred, he left his car in the middle of nowhere with the doors open and the lights on. Of course someone was gonna take it, especially if they're starving to death slowly.
Besides what the group did to him, doesn't justify his actions by kidnapping a 9yr old.
You're looking way too much into this, sorry but where was any indication he was lying other than his mental health which wasn't exactly effecting his conversation with Lee when he tells you about having kids? what proves he was lying and he doesn't even have kids? what reason does he have to lie about having kids? What use would that even do?
Telltale would not put a childs size hoody in a family car, you know the cars that are suited with families which have kids, for the player to go "oh wait I have a nephew who is four years old. He leaves his shirt in my car. I do not have a child. This man obviously does not have kids what so ever!"
Even if it was a hoody that was just left there why would he keep it? it's not like he could fit in it.
And seriously what is with you and claiming certain people never existed in the game
Gee, hrm.... I am just going to believe what he… more tells me. That makes absolute sense. He has what we call zero credibility.
He doesn't seem odd or out of touch at all, I know i must be the odd one here, mean MOST NORMAL PEOPLE walk around with their wives head in a bowling bag. I forgot.
Even though there was evidence of there being a childs hoody in the car.
I have a nephew who is four years old. He leaves his shirt in my car. I do not have a child.
When he started talking to CLementine, in secret. Why would a normal adult do this?
Do people randomly want to speak to someone's ten year old? My creep meter went off, makes me think of a pedo. Then he convinced Clementine to meet him outside so he could abduct her.
Even if it was a hoody that was just left there why would he keep it? it's not like he could fit in it.
You don't keep Rags in your car, for car maintenance? Maybe he didn't know it was in there, or it was just another thing stuffed in the trunk. Lots of reasons or possibilities, doesn't mean i believe anything a psychopath would say.
You're looking way too much into this, sorry but where was any indication he was lying other than his mental health which wasn't exactly eff… moreecting his conversation with Lee when he tells you about having kids? what proves he was lying and he doesn't even have kids? what reason does he have to lie about having kids? What use would that even do?
Telltale would not put a childs size hoody in a family car, you know the cars that are suited with families which have kids, for the player to go "oh wait I have a nephew who is four years old. He leaves his shirt in my car. I do not have a child. This man obviously does not have kids what so ever!"
Even if it was a hoody that was just left there why would he keep it? it's not like he could fit in it.
Im on the fence tbh, on play through with lee I dont think ive enjoyed killing anyone as much in a game as the stranger, that was the art of S1, I just wanted to hunt the dirt bag down and end him before lee turned, which I did with much glee...
But..
On reflection after playing S1, it does get you thinking, loosing you family in such a way would effect you greatly and with the world going hell being totally alone...... we all need a reason to carry on, finding the group who he blamed for his wifes childs death was that thing..... then clem became that thing... somthing to protect and be a reason to live the next day...
Was it right? Not at all, did he turn slightly macabre? Yes... and this is where I sit on the fence on this...
I think he was a troubled man before the ZA..... I wrecon his marriage wasnt the best to start with, possibly having control issues, loosing his son in the woods is awful on all accounts, but you have to ask yourself why his wife left with the 2nd child, I think he had issues with reality, forcing himself to believe everything was ok, that he had a good marriage, was a good farther, while the reality was somthing very different... I think thats why he took his wifes head..... and spoke to her in such a manner, what happened with his family just strengthened an already out of ballance personality...
As you hear alot on these forums, we all deal with things differently... because we are all different....
Kenny had issues right from the beginning, it was plain to see, kenny was already a damaged man, he had anger issues.. explosions of temper, and guess what happens when you put a man like that in a ZA.. ?.. and boy did TT play on this for S2..
So yea its hard to say how I feel about the stranger tbh... so I just have to look through lees eyes on it... and boy did lee enjoy watching that guy take is last breaths. LoL...
It was a CHILDS hoody telltale implemented into the game so the player would obviously realise it's a car from a family with kids, not for you to have an impression that it must have something to do with him using a hoody for maintenance, that just sounds incredibly idiotic and way too overspeculated.
where was any indication he was lying
When he started talking to CLementine, in secret. Why would a normal adult do this?
Do peop… morele randomly want to speak to someone's ten year old? My creep meter went off, makes me think of a pedo. Then he convinced Clementine to meet him outside so he could abduct her.
Even if it was a hoody that was just left there why would he keep it? it's not like he could fit in it.
You don't keep Rags in your car, for car maintenance? Maybe he didn't know it was in there, or it was just another thing stuffed in the trunk. Lots of reasons or possibilities, doesn't mean i believe anything a psychopath would say.
The only thing I feel bad about is how we didn't get to give him a more brutal death.
He's a sick piece of crap, he chopped his wife's head off AND PUT IT IN A BAG!!!
The only thing I feel bad about is how we didn't get to give him a more brutal death.
He's a sick piece of crap, he chopped his wife's head off AND PUT IT IN A BAG!!!
When I first saw him kinda, but later when he gave me shit about how I raise Clem and what I've done (choices) I was real angry at him especially calling MY LEE A MOSNTER. I know he lost his family but that doesn't excuse everything he does.
I find this funny, I don't believe a psychopath's story, who cuts their Wife's head off and places it in a bowling bag, manipulates and kidnaps children. I guess people, who carry their spouse's head around in a bag, those people still have credibility, in your opinion.
and i'm being the idiotic one. LOL Want to explain that one?
It was a CHILDS hoody telltale implemented into the game so the player would obviously realise it's a car from a family with kids, not for y… moreou to have an impression that it must have something to do with him using a hoody for maintenance, that just sounds incredibly idiotic and way too overspeculated.
I find this funny, I don't believe a psychopath's story, who cuts their Wife's head off and places it in a bowling bag, manipulates and kid… morenaps children. I guess people, who carry their spouse's head around in a bag, those people still have credibility, in your opinion.
and i'm being the idiotic one. LOL Want to explain that one?
Dexter the Serial Killer from Showtime is my next door neighbor. Sure i saw blood and body parts all over the place, in the hallway but he said he was redecorating. I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt,. The other day he had a new lady friend come over. I keep hearing screaming, that leads into a slight moaning.
I don't feel bad for pedophiles. It's safe to assume that he is a pedophile. For example, he was so hell bent on keeping Clem with him. He even said to Lee, "I'll be with her and you'll be rotting in the streets." If this guy weren't a pedophile, he would have said something like "She'll be under my care while you'll be rotting in the streets." I have no sympathy for what happened to him and his family. Pedophiles are menaces to this world and they don't deserve to have any sympathy. They don't even deserve to live.
I don't feel bad for pedophiles. It's safe to assume that he is a pedophile. For example, he was so hell bent on keeping Clem with him. He e… moreven said to Lee, "I'll be with her and you'll be rotting in the streets." If this guy weren't a pedophile, he would have said something like "She'll be under my care while you'll be rotting in the streets." I have no sympathy for what happened to him and his family. Pedophiles are menaces to this world and they don't deserve to have any sympathy. They don't even deserve to live.
You know, I've seen a lot of people say The Stranger had this pedophilic vibe coming off of him, but that is completely misinterpreted. The Stranger means that he wanted to raise Clementine as his own daughter, that's what he meant by, "We can be a family." He wanted to replace his daughter Elizabeth with Clementine, that's why he said to his wife's head, "She's not Lizzie but she's sweet."
I don't feel bad for pedophiles. It's safe to assume that he is a pedophile. For example, he was so hell bent on keeping Clem with him. He e… moreven said to Lee, "I'll be with her and you'll be rotting in the streets." If this guy weren't a pedophile, he would have said something like "She'll be under my care while you'll be rotting in the streets." I have no sympathy for what happened to him and his family. Pedophiles are menaces to this world and they don't deserve to have any sympathy. They don't even deserve to live.
You know, I've seen a lot of people say The Stranger had this pedophilic vibe coming off of him, but that is completely misinterpreted. The … moreStranger means that he wanted to raise Clementine as his own daughter, that's what he meant by, "We can be a family." He wanted to replace his daughter Elizabeth with Clementine, that's why he said to his wife's head, "She's not Lizzie but she's sweet."
I'm not trolling. What kind of normal person becomes so hell bent on taking a kid that is not even his/her child and has no other family or friend relations with that kid? Last time I checked, no normal person becomes that obsessed with taking a kid. He even implied it when he said that he'll be with her while Lee rots in the streets.
I'm not trolling. What kind of normal person becomes so hell bent on taking a kid that is not even his/her child and has no other family or … morefriend relations with that kid? Last time I checked, no normal person becomes that obsessed with taking a kid. He even implied it when he said that he'll be with her while Lee rots in the streets.
Yeah, I feel bad for what happened to him. That kind of pain is unbearable, and nobody should be forced to go through that. That said I was still plenty willing to kill him, because no matter how much pain he was in it doesn't give him the right to inflict that pain on others, and no way would Clem have been better off with him.
I find this funny, I don't believe a psychopath's story, who cuts their Wife's head off and places it in a bowling bag, manipulates and kid… morenaps children. I guess people, who carry their spouse's head around in a bag, those people still have credibility, in your opinion.
and i'm being the idiotic one. LOL Want to explain that one?
Yeah, so? Larry was a piece of shit. It don't matter anyways. They're fictional. I wouldn't actually enjoy killing someone. That's wrong. It's different with video game characters. They're not real.
What I'm saying is that I sensed a pedophillic vibe on him because for one, when you first hear him talking on the walkie talkie, he clearly sounds like a child molester. It didn't make things any better when he said "I'll be with her while you'll be rotting in the streets." I know it sounds far-fetched, but that's just my opinion that doesn't carry any weight in this discussion.
You know, I've seen a lot of people say The Stranger had this pedophilic vibe coming off of him, but that is completely misinterpreted. The … moreStranger means that he wanted to raise Clementine as his own daughter, that's what he meant by, "We can be a family." He wanted to replace his daughter Elizabeth with Clementine, that's why he said to his wife's head, "She's not Lizzie but she's sweet."
Only as bad as anyone else in the game. I wonder though, if Lee hadn't been on his last couple hours I wonder how the community would have reacted to the situation, to me it felt like things need to be extreme. It's like: Lee you are dying; balls to wall. I think way more people would have left him alive (ie Clem shoots him) if Lee wasn't severely crippled from his bite. The fact that Lee was more vulnerable had an effect, and if he died from his bite the guy could just come in and scoop Clem up. Nobody wanted that.
I did at first, but then I stopped. This genius left his car OPEN and unlocked in the middle of the woods, lights on, and car making lots of noise. He blames Lee for doing (determinately) something that anyone could've done. He then kidnaps Clem because she's in "danger." She would be in danger no matter what. He was too irresponsible to realize that it was all his fault. He got my friend Ben killed, and led to the downfall of Omid because of it. I choked him out every time, leaving him to reanimate.
So the ZA happened and his life went to shit. He lost his child and came home without him. He might very well but shit fucked up for him. His wife was giving him lots of grief and turmoil. He alledgedly decapitates his wife and keeps her head. But then he hears a child and wants to try again.
I feel for his situation. I would even be sympathetic about his situation if he were more clear how he found his wife and daughter. I just don't trust his intentions so fuck him.
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Do you understand what i am trying to say?
If he would of taken the five minutes to hide his supplies, maybe things would of ended differently for him. He can shift the blame to Kenny all he wants, but in reality your family's safety is your responsibility.
From my perspective, the passenger door is open, not closed. So whatever happened, happened a few hours ago. The car battery light is still on, so we know it was just shortly abandoned maybe a few hours.
Personally i believe his wife ran off, trying to escape him, and he killed her and cut her head off, and placed it in that bag. I didn't see any evidence of him having a child.
So because the door was open its totally fine that we screwed over the family that was already troubled with losing their son in the woods no less then a few hours ago and caused them to fall apart even more?
And seriously what is with you and claiming certain people never existed in the game because they were only mentioned by a character. Even though there was evidence of there being a childs hoody in the car.
Gee, hrm.... I am just going to believe what he tells me. That makes absolute sense. He has what we call zero credibility.
He doesn't seem odd or out of touch at all, I know i must be the odd one here, mean MOST NORMAL PEOPLE walk around with their wives head in a bowling bag. I forgot.
I have a nephew who is four years old. He leaves his shirt in my car. I do not have a child.
The group did I didn't. Its really his own fault that any of this occurred, he left his car in the middle of nowhere with the doors open and the lights on. Of course someone was gonna take it, especially if they're starving to death slowly.
Besides what the group did to him, doesn't justify his actions by kidnapping a 9yr old.
Course I did. We ruined his life.
But I hate him more because creeps me out and he kidnapped Clem. No one take my Clemmy and gets away with it. >:(
As Lee, no. But me personally, yes. Losing family the way he did, would corrupt any mind.
You wanna take my child? OH HELL NAHHH!
You're looking way too much into this, sorry but where was any indication he was lying other than his mental health which wasn't exactly effecting his conversation with Lee when he tells you about having kids? what proves he was lying and he doesn't even have kids? what reason does he have to lie about having kids? What use would that even do?
Telltale would not put a childs size hoody in a family car, you know the cars that are suited with families which have kids, for the player to go "oh wait I have a nephew who is four years old. He leaves his shirt in my car. I do not have a child. This man obviously does not have kids what so ever!"
Even if it was a hoody that was just left there why would he keep it? it's not like he could fit in it.
When he started talking to CLementine, in secret. Why would a normal adult do this?
Do people randomly want to speak to someone's ten year old? My creep meter went off, makes me think of a pedo. Then he convinced Clementine to meet him outside so he could abduct her.
You don't keep Rags in your car, for car maintenance? Maybe he didn't know it was in there, or it was just another thing stuffed in the trunk. Lots of reasons or possibilities, doesn't mean i believe anything a psychopath would say.
Good topic this....
Im on the fence tbh, on play through with lee I dont think ive enjoyed killing anyone as much in a game as the stranger, that was the art of S1, I just wanted to hunt the dirt bag down and end him before lee turned, which I did with much glee...
But..
On reflection after playing S1, it does get you thinking, loosing you family in such a way would effect you greatly and with the world going hell being totally alone...... we all need a reason to carry on, finding the group who he blamed for his wifes childs death was that thing..... then clem became that thing... somthing to protect and be a reason to live the next day...
Was it right? Not at all, did he turn slightly macabre? Yes... and this is where I sit on the fence on this...
I think he was a troubled man before the ZA..... I wrecon his marriage wasnt the best to start with, possibly having control issues, loosing his son in the woods is awful on all accounts, but you have to ask yourself why his wife left with the 2nd child, I think he had issues with reality, forcing himself to believe everything was ok, that he had a good marriage, was a good farther, while the reality was somthing very different... I think thats why he took his wifes head..... and spoke to her in such a manner, what happened with his family just strengthened an already out of ballance personality...
As you hear alot on these forums, we all deal with things differently... because we are all different....
Kenny had issues right from the beginning, it was plain to see, kenny was already a damaged man, he had anger issues.. explosions of temper, and guess what happens when you put a man like that in a ZA.. ?.. and boy did TT play on this for S2..
So yea its hard to say how I feel about the stranger tbh... so I just have to look through lees eyes on it... and boy did lee enjoy watching that guy take is last breaths. LoL...
Great post and topic
It was a CHILDS hoody telltale implemented into the game so the player would obviously realise it's a car from a family with kids, not for you to have an impression that it must have something to do with him using a hoody for maintenance, that just sounds incredibly idiotic and way too overspeculated.
The only thing I feel bad about is how we didn't get to give him a more brutal death.
He's a sick piece of crap, he chopped his wife's head off AND PUT IT IN A BAG!!!
I can't say I expected better from someone named Carverhater123
lol no
When I first saw him kinda, but later when he gave me shit about how I raise Clem and what I've done (choices) I was real angry at him especially calling MY LEE A MOSNTER. I know he lost his family but that doesn't excuse everything he does.
Haha, felt so bad for him that his death was my favorite scene in S1. He caused Lee's death!
I find this funny, I don't believe a psychopath's story, who cuts their Wife's head off and places it in a bowling bag, manipulates and kidnaps children. I guess people, who carry their spouse's head around in a bag, those people still have credibility, in your opinion.
and i'm being the idiotic one. LOL Want to explain that one?
He stole the bowling bag from Niko and Roman that bastard.
Dexter the Serial Killer from Showtime is my next door neighbor. Sure i saw blood and body parts all over the place, in the hallway but he said he was redecorating. I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt,. The other day he had a new lady friend come over. I keep hearing screaming, that leads into a slight moaning.
OH DEX YOU SLY DOG YOU!
Question - Did you feel bad for the stranger?
Answer - No.
I don't feel bad for pedophiles. It's safe to assume that he is a pedophile. For example, he was so hell bent on keeping Clem with him. He even said to Lee, "I'll be with her and you'll be rotting in the streets." If this guy weren't a pedophile, he would have said something like "She'll be under my care while you'll be rotting in the streets." I have no sympathy for what happened to him and his family. Pedophiles are menaces to this world and they don't deserve to have any sympathy. They don't even deserve to live.
Are you trolling or being genuine?
You know, I've seen a lot of people say The Stranger had this pedophilic vibe coming off of him, but that is completely misinterpreted. The Stranger means that he wanted to raise Clementine as his own daughter, that's what he meant by, "We can be a family." He wanted to replace his daughter Elizabeth with Clementine, that's why he said to his wife's head, "She's not Lizzie but she's sweet."
I think people stumbled on the "We can have a family" line
I'm not trolling. What kind of normal person becomes so hell bent on taking a kid that is not even his/her child and has no other family or friend relations with that kid? Last time I checked, no normal person becomes that obsessed with taking a kid. He even implied it when he said that he'll be with her while Lee rots in the streets.
You're the same person to have admittedly enjoying killing Larry...
Yeah, I feel bad for what happened to him. That kind of pain is unbearable, and nobody should be forced to go through that. That said I was still plenty willing to kill him, because no matter how much pain he was in it doesn't give him the right to inflict that pain on others, and no way would Clem have been better off with him.
Yes that is what I said.
Yeah, so? Larry was a piece of shit. It don't matter anyways. They're fictional. I wouldn't actually enjoy killing someone. That's wrong. It's different with video game characters. They're not real.
What I'm saying is that I sensed a pedophillic vibe on him because for one, when you first hear him talking on the walkie talkie, he clearly sounds like a child molester. It didn't make things any better when he said "I'll be with her while you'll be rotting in the streets." I know it sounds far-fetched, but that's just my opinion that doesn't carry any weight in this discussion.
Only as bad as anyone else in the game. I wonder though, if Lee hadn't been on his last couple hours I wonder how the community would have reacted to the situation, to me it felt like things need to be extreme. It's like: Lee you are dying; balls to wall. I think way more people would have left him alive (ie Clem shoots him) if Lee wasn't severely crippled from his bite. The fact that Lee was more vulnerable had an effect, and if he died from his bite the guy could just come in and scoop Clem up. Nobody wanted that.
I did at first, but then I stopped. This genius left his car OPEN and unlocked in the middle of the woods, lights on, and car making lots of noise. He blames Lee for doing (determinately) something that anyone could've done. He then kidnaps Clem because she's in "danger." She would be in danger no matter what. He was too irresponsible to realize that it was all his fault. He got my friend Ben killed, and led to the downfall of Omid because of it. I choked him out every time, leaving him to reanimate.
Clementine likes killing,
From Angel to Murdering Machine. How?
So the ZA happened and his life went to shit. He lost his child and came home without him. He might very well but shit fucked up for him. His wife was giving him lots of grief and turmoil. He alledgedly decapitates his wife and keeps her head. But then he hears a child and wants to try again.
I feel for his situation. I would even be sympathetic about his situation if he were more clear how he found his wife and daughter. I just don't trust his intentions so fuck him.