I'm a satisfied user of almost ALL Tellale games...They work great on my computer!
If you are not satisfied with TellTale products you don't have only to blame programmers: are you sure that your hardware is fully working? That you have quality components on your PC?
I know many people that complained about games having poor framerate and then discovered they have Antialias 16x enabled and also Anisotropic 16X by default....
And I know people who bought a NVIDIA 280GTX graphic card and mounted it on an old AMD 4800+ core.....
You just have to be sure to buy QUALITY components, and have a decent hardware.
I tried Telltale games on various hardware, even on an integrated graphic card, and it always worked great, with only some adjustments to the detail.
And, at last, if YOU want your games performs well, just buy some recent components. With few € / $ you can buy a decent hardware to play TOMI....
A 9500GT costs less than 50€ and provides you the best graphic!
At last, I believe the contrary: Telltale graphic looks too old!!! Let's add polygons, smoothings, realtime shadows, fog, and others effects!!! Heavy Rain set a new standard, you have to catch up now!!!
Telltale, don't be late on the graphic quality run!!!
Is it just me, or is it possible that the mouse lag is happening with people because of a dodgy mouse? I have an HD 4850 and I have to run the game windowed for good mouse speed. I suspect it might be mouse related, because maybe some mice can't handle certain games, idk. The olny current game that I have without mouse lag at all is A Vampyre Story.
Is it just me, or is it possible that the mouse lag is happening with people because of a dodgy mouse?
It should not matter what mouse you use, unless maybe if you use special drivers for it. The Mouse doesn't know whether you run windowed or full screen.
You could try using the standard Microsoft drivers for a test.
Let's look at something different. Open up the Catalyst Control Center, In the Menu Select "Graphics/Information Center", Select the "Graphics Hardware" Tab, right click on the information and "copy all" to a reply post.
Ok, here it is:
Primary Adapter
Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Device ID 9442
Vendor 1002
Subsystem ID 2266
Subsystem Vendor ID 1787
Graphics Bus Capability PCI Express 2.0
Maximum Bus Setting PCI Express 2.0 x16
BIOS Version 011.022.007.005
BIOS Part Number 113-AAXXXXX-XXX
BIOS Date 2009/09/08
Memory Size 1024 MB
Memory Type GDDR3
Core Clock in MHz 625 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 950 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth in GByte/s 60.8 GByte/s
Also, yes I think I'm using special drivers for it. Its an MK300 wireless optical mouse from Logitech, if that helps. Its also in a keyboard/mouse set.
Ok, here it is:
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Also, yes I think I'm using special drivers for it. Its an MK300 wireless optical mouse from Logitech, if that helps. Its also in a keyboard/mouse set.
Everything looks normal with your graphics card. What is your cpu load like while playing fullscreen?
If you think it's your mouse, you can just try a cheap wired one.
Everything looks normal with your graphics card. What is your cpu load like while playing fullscreen?
If you think it's your mouse, you can just try a cheap wired one.
I have no idea about the CPU. How do you check that? And about the mouse, i don't think we have any wired ones around, and I'm not about to buy one if it turns out that isn't the problem.
Okay, that looks fine too. I can't notice anything wrong with your hardware.
Can you upload a fresh dxdiag log?
Also try a clean boot.
Booting clean in Windows Vista / 7:
1. Click Start --> Run --> Type MSCONFIG --> Click OK
2. On the General tab, choose Selective Startup
3. Uncheck Load Startup Items
4. Select the Services tab
5. Check Hide all Microsoft services
6. Click Disable all
7. Click on OK
8. Click Restart.
9. After reboot, run the game to see if it works.
After performing the necessary steps, restore your system by doing the following:
1. Click Start --> Run --> Type MSCONFIG--> Click OK
2. On the General tab, choose Normal Startup
3. Click Ok
4. Click Yes, when asked to restart your computer
Okay, that looks fine too. I can't notice anything wrong with your hardware.
Can you upload a fresh dxdiag log?
Also try a clean boot.
Booting clean in Windows Vista / 7:
1. Click Start --> Run --> Type MSCONFIG --> Click OK
2. On the General tab, choose Selective Startup
3. Uncheck Load Startup Items
4. Select the Services tab
5. Check Hide all Microsoft services
6. Click Disable all
7. Click on OK
8. Click Restart.
9. After reboot, run the game to see if it works.
After performing the necessary steps, restore your system by doing the following:
1. Click Start --> Run --> Type MSCONFIG--> Click OK
2. On the General tab, choose Normal Startup
3. Click Ok
4. Click Yes, when asked to restart your computer
I'll try the system boot clean. I hope it helps this time, cause so far it has never helped with anything.
I hope so. I sadly can't find any reasonable cause for your slowdown in fullscreen. That's why we should try some less obvious stuff.
You could try disabling your sound devices in the device manager.
You could also make a fresh windows install to a different partition/harddisk and test if it works smoothly there after installing windows updates, service packs, DirectX updates and graphics drivers only. If it works we know there's some software issue in your original installation.
I hope so. I sadly can't find any reasonable cause for your slowdown in fullscreen. That's why we should try some less obvious stuff.
You could try disabling your sound devices in the device manager.
You could also make a fresh windows install to a different partition/harddisk and test if it works smoothly there after installing windows updates, service packs, DirectX updates and graphics drivers only. If it works we know there's some software issue in your original installation.
Well, the boot clean didn't work, just as I expected. Unfortunately I only have one harddrive in my computer, so I don't think the fresh windows install is going to happen. Is monitor size a problem? Also, is there anything at all that could be bottlenecking my pc?
Is monitor size a problem? Also, is there anything at all that could be bottlenecking my pc?
The Monitor size doesn't matter. What matters are the resolution and the quality settings in the game.
Also important are the 3D settings in the graphics cards control center.
Make sure you have "Adaptive Antialiasing" disabled.
In fact you can try my settings. Make them in the Catalyst Control Center, From the Menu "Graphics/3D" in the "All" tab from top to bottom:
8x Box AA, 16x AF, Disable Catalyst A.I., Mipmap High Quality, Vertical Refresh always on, Adaptive AA disabled, No Triple Buffering.
The Monitor size doesn't matter. What matters are the resolution and the quality settings in the game.
Also important are the 3D settings in the graphics cards control center.
Make sure you have "Adaptive Antialiasing" disabled.
In fact you can try my settings. Make them in the Catalyst Control Center, From the Menu "Graphics/3D" in the "All" tab from top to bottom:
8x Box AA, 16x AF, Disable Catalyst A.I., Mipmap High Quality, Vertical Refresh always on, Adaptive AA disabled, No Triple Buffering.
Ok, I've tried your settings, and its better, but still very draggy.
EDIT: I went back to windowed mode, and the mouse is even better than it was before. i'm fine running it windowed, but I am still quite puzzled at the lag on fullscreen. Pretty much every game I own has mouse lag on full screen. Only a few are an exception. When I said before that the only 'current' game I own was lag free, I didn't mean 'what I own currently' I meant 'recently released', so I don't have mouse lag on MI1, 2 or CMI. If that happened, then I would have something to worry about.
Also, seeing as I don't really know what smooth mouse speed is on Tales, I don't really know how to tell. A YouTube video isn't going to help, because
1. Fraps recording boosts your mouse speed anyway and
2.I can't feel the mouse myself, so I don't truly know the speed.
Also, seeing as I don't really know what smooth mouse speed is on Tales, I don't really know how to tell.
I made a little test. On my System I can't notice any difference in the mouse reaction between windowed mode and Fullscreen. It's not quite as smooth as the windows cursor, but i don't notice that if i don't compare it directly to it.
Still 1920x1200 Quality 9, ToMI 101
Comments
I like this good cop / bad cop thing.
Don't worry, we love you the best. (Any other member of Telltale's team, please disregard that)
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If you are not satisfied with TellTale products you don't have only to blame programmers: are you sure that your hardware is fully working? That you have quality components on your PC?
I know many people that complained about games having poor framerate and then discovered they have Antialias 16x enabled and also Anisotropic 16X by default....
And I know people who bought a NVIDIA 280GTX graphic card and mounted it on an old AMD 4800+ core.....
You just have to be sure to buy QUALITY components, and have a decent hardware.
I tried Telltale games on various hardware, even on an integrated graphic card, and it always worked great, with only some adjustments to the detail.
And, at last, if YOU want your games performs well, just buy some recent components. With few € / $ you can buy a decent hardware to play TOMI....
A 9500GT costs less than 50€ and provides you the best graphic!
At last, I believe the contrary: Telltale graphic looks too old!!! Let's add polygons, smoothings, realtime shadows, fog, and others effects!!! Heavy Rain set a new standard, you have to catch up now!!!
Telltale, don't be late on the graphic quality run!!!
You could try using the standard Microsoft drivers for a test.
Let's look at something different. Open up the Catalyst Control Center, In the Menu Select "Graphics/Information Center", Select the "Graphics Hardware" Tab, right click on the information and "copy all" to a reply post.
Primary Adapter
Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Device ID 9442
Vendor 1002
Subsystem ID 2266
Subsystem Vendor ID 1787
Graphics Bus Capability PCI Express 2.0
Maximum Bus Setting PCI Express 2.0 x16
BIOS Version 011.022.007.005
BIOS Part Number 113-AAXXXXX-XXX
BIOS Date 2009/09/08
Memory Size 1024 MB
Memory Type GDDR3
Core Clock in MHz 625 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 950 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth in GByte/s 60.8 GByte/s
Also, yes I think I'm using special drivers for it. Its an MK300 wireless optical mouse from Logitech, if that helps. Its also in a keyboard/mouse set.
If you think it's your mouse, you can just try a cheap wired one.
I have no idea about the CPU. How do you check that? And about the mouse, i don't think we have any wired ones around, and I'm not about to buy one if it turns out that isn't the problem.
You can look in the Performance tab of the Task Manager or log it to a file e.g. using CoreTemp. Run the game for 2-3 minutes for logging.
Logging your CPU activity
Download Core Temp. Start it and activate logging in the menu under "Tools/Logging on".
The log file created is called similar to "CT-Log [TIME][DATE].csv".
Zip the file and attach it to a reply in this Thread.
Ok, I've attached the file Hope this helps.
Okay, that looks fine too. I can't notice anything wrong with your hardware.
Can you upload a fresh dxdiag log?
Also try a clean boot.
Booting clean in Windows Vista / 7:
1. Click Start --> Run --> Type MSCONFIG --> Click OK
2. On the General tab, choose Selective Startup
3. Uncheck Load Startup Items
4. Select the Services tab
5. Check Hide all Microsoft services
6. Click Disable all
7. Click on OK
8. Click Restart.
9. After reboot, run the game to see if it works.
After performing the necessary steps, restore your system by doing the following:
1. Click Start --> Run --> Type MSCONFIG--> Click OK
2. On the General tab, choose Normal Startup
3. Click Ok
4. Click Yes, when asked to restart your computer
Based on Will's post
Ok, here we go. I'll try the system boot clean. I hope it helps this time, cause so far it has never helped with anything.
You could try disabling your sound devices in the device manager.
You could also make a fresh windows install to a different partition/harddisk and test if it works smoothly there after installing windows updates, service packs, DirectX updates and graphics drivers only. If it works we know there's some software issue in your original installation.
Well, the boot clean didn't work, just as I expected. Unfortunately I only have one harddrive in my computer, so I don't think the fresh windows install is going to happen. Is monitor size a problem? Also, is there anything at all that could be bottlenecking my pc?
Also important are the 3D settings in the graphics cards control center.
Make sure you have "Adaptive Antialiasing" disabled.
In fact you can try my settings. Make them in the Catalyst Control Center, From the Menu "Graphics/3D" in the "All" tab from top to bottom:
8x Box AA, 16x AF, Disable Catalyst A.I., Mipmap High Quality, Vertical Refresh always on, Adaptive AA disabled, No Triple Buffering.
Ok, I've tried your settings, and its better, but still very draggy.
EDIT: I went back to windowed mode, and the mouse is even better than it was before. i'm fine running it windowed, but I am still quite puzzled at the lag on fullscreen. Pretty much every game I own has mouse lag on full screen. Only a few are an exception. When I said before that the only 'current' game I own was lag free, I didn't mean 'what I own currently' I meant 'recently released', so I don't have mouse lag on MI1, 2 or CMI. If that happened, then I would have something to worry about.
Also, seeing as I don't really know what smooth mouse speed is on Tales, I don't really know how to tell. A YouTube video isn't going to help, because
1. Fraps recording boosts your mouse speed anyway and
2.I can't feel the mouse myself, so I don't truly know the speed.
I made a little test. On my System I can't notice any difference in the mouse reaction between windowed mode and Fullscreen. It's not quite as smooth as the windows cursor, but i don't notice that if i don't compare it directly to it.
Still 1920x1200 Quality 9, ToMI 101