Jane AND Kenny, honestly I feel safe with either, they're both driven and have shown to care for Clementine and even AJ in numerous occasions, they've both made mistakes but they are only human but regardless of how Clementine treats them, they still do their best to help Clementine survive.
Jane is a survivalist, she has taught Clementine how to survive and have saved the group on multiple occasions and they treat her as though she automatically has to prioritize the group.
Kenny is caring, he truly wants the safety of Clementine and AJ as they are all he has left, he does allot for the group and steps up as the leader when he needs to, doesn't necessarily make him the perfect leader but he's done allot more than some group members, and the group treats his misery as a sign of insanity, they look at him and see him to be aggressive, so he sees himself the way others see him.
Both these characters are really used by others and forced to come to terms with the consequences of all the good they attempt to do, it's quite sad actually. I wished they both lived, Jane X Kenny lol
"...." because silence is a valid option.lol I say Clementine is in good hands with Kenny just like Allstate. Because ya know..you Gotta kee… morep away from mayhem.... like Jane.
Honestly in truth I could see Jane actually leaving/ditching Clementine and AJ to their death as walker bait, only to escape being trapped with a horde of zombies herself, if it came to that..as such a extreme life or death situation and as the stone-cold hardcore survivalist she is. Yeah she'll likely feel awful and guilty, then get over it.. being the cold loner type and all which would just make her even colder. This would be an interesting approach should they actually decide to shockingly kill Clementine off midway into season 3.. to show the possibly horrendous consequences of the Jane finale followers. But I see the exact opposite as opposed to Kenny whom may not think twice to lay down his life, especially if it meant to save the lives of Clementine and AJ. Pe… [view original content]
Maybe Kenny is a leprechaun.
I couldn't resist. xp
Kenny: (to the Lucky Charms commercial jingle) Ducks, beards, and babies, clovers and saltlicks! Hot pizza and crowbars, and me sinking ships!
Eh, maybe it's just the way I personally look at that scene, but I wouldn't say he necessarily abandons her. It's more of Clementine just getting cut off and separated from him and Mike. Given the chaos of that entire sequence, I never really held anyone responsible for 'abandoning' someone else. Sure, maybe you could blame them for not keeping a better eye on the people around them, but no one, not even Kenny, was straight-up like "lol you're on your own motherfucker"
Hahaha. Except he did abandon her. In a walker herd. Surrounded by zombies. After screaming and unfairly blaming her for Sarita's death and … morepotentially traumatizing Clem, and attracting even more walkers towards her with all his screaming. Oh and that was actually canon too, unlike the gif above, so yeah. ^_^
Jane 100%, but I hate them both. I used to be somewhat of a Jane fanboy, but now I realise they're both way too fucking crazy to be anywhere near Clem. If I could change my original choice, I WOULD still go with Jane and let the family in, just because that feels like the least dangerous choice to me and being alone as a kid that age is bordering suicidal.
He separated himself from her in an extremely dangerous imminently life threatening situation with no care for Clementine's safety. He did abandon her, canonically too.
Eh, maybe it's just the way I personally look at that scene, but I wouldn't say he necessarily abandons her. It's more of Clementine just ge… moretting cut off and separated from him and Mike. Given the chaos of that entire sequence, I never really held anyone responsible for 'abandoning' someone else. Sure, maybe you could blame them for not keeping a better eye on the people around them, but no one, not even Kenny, was straight-up like "lol you're on your own motherfucker"
Jane 100%, but I hate them both. I used to be somewhat of a Jane fanboy, but now I realise they're both way too fucking crazy to be anywhere… more near Clem. If I could change my original choice, I WOULD still go with Jane and let the family in, just because that feels like the least dangerous choice to me and being alone as a kid that age is bordering suicidal.
Could be because Kenny is like 15 to 20 years older than Jane and was a parent once. Parents don't usually ask their children what do they think. They indeed do just bark orders like Luke said the same thing. Also Kenny is just hot headed at times like he was in season 1 and in his debates with Lilly. Kenny when he feels he knows what is best for the group or Clementine won't back down and stands his ground. Like with the boat and wellington. Had Kenny just asked Clem what she thought at the gates of Wellington then their might not have been a choice and Clementine would just went back with Kenny so as to not leave him alone and for her not to be alone inside the mysterious Wellington where it MIGHT be safer with only a baby.
Clementine isn't really adult age even though she acts as an adult so she doesn't have full maturity to always be asked what she thinks about everything because she likely wouldn't know much of any better any how. Jane is sort of like that big sister that would let you get away and do a bunch of stuff when mom and dad are gone on vacation like driving the family car which she sort of let Clem do as well in the season finale when she doesn't know how to drive that was a bit funny.
So in short Kenny see's Clem as still just a kid and like most parents view on kids doesn't believe they have the maturity or knowledge on what choices are best and better for them. And its true Clementine does still need some sort of adult supervision in what she does. She isn't all that much older since her season 1 self. That'd be like Lee always asking Clem what she want to do. Like "hey sweetpea do you think you want to go to dangerous Crawford town with us." Or "Do you think that creep on the walkie talkie actually truly has your parents with him?" "Do you want to go with that new weird docter Vernon, instead of keeping on with me and the rest of the group?"
So no it doesn't always work to ask a child what they want and thinks is best for themselves. Now if Clem in the game was at least 17 or 18 or ya know close to Ben's age, then maybe she would know a bit more but even still teenagers can be very immature too and naive depending on the situation..
And even if Jane does let Clem do whatever she wishes. Doesn't mean she won't get the idea of ditching her at the drop of a hat when danger surfaces.
Jane 100%, but I hate them both. I used to be somewhat of a Jane fanboy, but now I realise they're both way too fucking crazy to be anywhere… more near Clem. If I could change my original choice, I WOULD still go with Jane and let the family in, just because that feels like the least dangerous choice to me and being alone as a kid that age is bordering suicidal.
So yeah I'm just originally saying it would be interesting if they went with what was in character based on the characters past history of noble deeds and misbehaviors.
Except you're not being fair about it, the way you're assuming that Jane's story would end in a negative way with her resorting to her old ways when it's been proven again and again that she obviously has grown a lot ever since she first argued to leave Sarah behind. You're saying that Kenny's story would end with his "noble deeds" and Jane's story would end with her "misbehaviors" when you're conveniently forgetting that Kenny also has gross misbehaviors (his violent and irrational tendencies which he hasn't gotten past), and Jane has performed noble deeds, and she is getting past her "misbehaviors" as well, moreso than Kenny is (she saves Clem from the ice, she goes to save Sarah on her own if the timer runs out at the observation deck, she lets the family in at Howe's.) There's no doubt in my mind that you are absolutely wrong that Jane's story will conclude with her abandoning Clem again. I bet you a million Internet cookies that that won't happen in Season 3. You keep track of this comment and if I'm wrong once Season 3 comes around, I'll pay up. But I won't be wrong.
Not necessarily, I'm saying since Jane has such a cold personality and has a history of leaving relatives and groupies behind to die like Ja… moremie and Sarah. Then I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it came down to her survival to just ditch Clem and AJ to buy her sometime out of a horde attack. She seems to put her surivival above all else and anything else and doesn't believe groups can last long together. So Jane doing that to Clem sounds sort of in character for her to do judging from all she has done thus far, she can be cold and manipulative if she desires in order to accomplish what she wants to achieve. She reminds me a bit of Lilly too. Just a** BIT **now.. there is that key adjective again.LOL
Kenny believes in family and not quiting he has also sacrificed himself on a couple occasions which is kind of the opposite of Jane it would seem.
They could go a different route though for those who chose Kenny finale. They could say K… [view original content]
I don't think Jane had problems. As much as I despised her, she just wanted someone to be with. Someone to replace her sister. Jane is selfish and just wanted Clementine as a person she could have. Oh and Jane telling Clementine about her eating glass doesn't mean she has problems lol.
I don't think Jane had problems. As much as I despised her, she just wanted someone to be with. Someone to replace her sister. Jane is selfi… moresh and just wanted Clementine as a person she could have. Oh and Jane telling Clementine about her eating glass doesn't mean she has problems lol.
Really? Because as an adult I don't think letting an eleven year old risk her life countless times getting a walkie-talkie (the whole group) is the best idea. I also don't think blaming an eleven year old for someone's death (Bonnie) is the most adult thing to do. Telling a child that you don't know who the father is (Rebecca) isn't something children should hear either. Clementine shouldn't be hearing a lot of things. A story about you accidentally eating glass is harmless.
Again, you say this like it's a good thing. Howes got overrun with zombies and going back could've easily resulted in Clem getting killed by said zombies, survivors from Carver's group angry at her for what she and her group did, or bandits that found the place.
Jane always complimented Clem and told her she doesn't give herself enough credit
She also left Clem and the group because she didn't really believe in Clem. She said that she didn't want to see "it" happen to Clem, by which I guess she means getting killed or dying. But if she really didn't want that to happen to Clem, she would've stuck around and made sure it didn't happen. Instead she leaves because she thinks it's gonna happen anyway, meaning she didn't have as much faith in Clem as she said she did. You can even ask to leave with her and she tells you "no".
Kenny is belittling her
When? You mean in one episode when his girlfriend dies, and Clementine can potentially be responsible for it? Kenny doesn't do this in any other episode, and depending on your choices, Kenny can either snap out of it and realize Clem is the only capable one in the group, apologize to Clem, or get even more angry, but of course you'll only mention that third outcome because you want to make Kenny look bad.
shoving her to the ground if you get in between Jane and Kenny
Jane does the exact same thing if you get in her way during the fight.
Lilly didn't trust the St. Johns either. She wanted her dinner to go, not at the dinner table.
Jane:
* Taught the others how to disg… moreuise themselves in walker guts
* Lead Clementine and Rebecca safely out of the herd
* Taught Clementine survival skills (Lee and Jane are the only two to do so)
* Found Rebecca a safe place for the baby
* Wanted to steal medicine from Arvo to help the entire group; which she mentions those by name who need it
* Saved Kenny and the group from Arvo's gang
* Wanted to follow Arvo back to the house, because the possibility of there being food was worth the risk, and there was food
* Saved Clementine from the freezing water
* Wanted to go back to Howes to escape the cold, and because food and baby formula was certain to be there, which she was correct
* Also, Jane always complimented Clem and told her she doesn't give herself enough credit, all the while Kenny is belittling her, nudging into her, and … [view original content]
You can reject the nail file and either way it has no baring on the plot, the fire is started without it if you don't take it.
Wanted to leave with Clem and AJ while they had the chance while Kenny went to get gas, knowing he'll never give AJ up
And again, you say this like it's a good thing, but all it does is show Jane's true selfish nature. Whereas Kenny wanted them to stay in the truck where it's safe while he gets fuel, Jane just wants to leave him behind even though Clementine can't even drive. Jane is always trying to convince Clem that abandoning people is a good thing to do whereas Kenny wants others to survive even if it kills him.
Jane also:
* Saved Sarah and Luke at the trailer; even when her past was starting to haunt her
* Gave Clem her nail filer; "Versatilit… morey is not overrated." Lol
* Lit the fire for Clem to get warm while Kenny was yelling at Arvo
* Wanted to leave with Clem and AJ while they had the chance while Kenny went to get gas, knowing he'll never give AJ up
Kenny was in 9 episodes vs Jane's 3 episode appearance. So, naturally, Kenny had more opportunities, but Jane made a huge impact in the short amount of time she had.
Kenny.
* Saves Lee's life at the drugstore when Larry leaves him for dead
* Refuses food from Lee unless Lee feeds his son first
* Wa… mores right about the St. John's (everybody was willing to trust them except Kenny)
* Saved everyone in the meat locker by killing Larry before he could turn
* Got the RV working which saved everyone at the motel when the bandits attacked
* Led the group in finding a boat even after losing his wife and son
* Helps Lee rescue Clementine even if you didn't initially get him to come with you
* Was willing to sacrifice his life to help Ben even though Ben got his family killed
* Took the blame for stealing the radio to protect Clementine and almost got killed for it
* Pulled himself together to help Rebecca deliver the baby even though his girlfriend just died
* Was the only one with the common sense to distrust Arvo who just tried to rob the group and almost got everyone killed
* Was completely right ab… [view original content]
Really? Because as an adult I don't think letting an eleven year old risk her life countless times getting a walkie-talkie (the whole group)… more is the best idea. I also don't think blaming an eleven year old for someone's death (Bonnie) is the most adult thing to do. Telling a child that you don't know who the father is (Rebecca) isn't something children should hear either. Clementine shouldn't be hearing a lot of things. A story about you accidentally eating glass is harmless.
I dont think I answered the intial question but I havent trusted Kenny since he refused to help Lee look for Clementine. It still makes me mad that she doesnt know about that. I really believe Jane would have protected Clem with her life.
Well no.. I do not believe I'm calling Kenny Jesus either (well there is comic book character Jesus but back to the main point), he is imperfect as well like all humans, but he has a history of putting himself on the line to save others more often than Jane which would leave me to believe that he'd try a bit harder to protect Clem from danger or sacrifice his life to save Clementine. He's done feats Like saving Christa (season 1 finale) or Ben (whom he really hated season 1 finale), and he took a near death beatdown for Clementine from Carver and sacrifices his own safety for the well being of AJ and Clem (determinately of course season 2 finale).
And I think Kenny probably cares about Clem just as much as his son Duck (not counting the time he was pissed at Lee and didn't want to help search for Clem) and has more experience with children.
However Jane has a history (from what little is known of it) of leaving folks to their death more often, Other than sacrificing her life except for that one time with Clem on the lake, Jane is remembered for pointing out what is wrong with each individual in the group and flaws of each character of the other group members besides herself and she wanted to leave Clem and Rebecca in the horde when they felt distraught about making it out. But helped when she heard the whimpering of Rebecca, and left the likes of Jamie, then Sarah (twice determinately), She left the whole group to face the russians alone (kind of came back to make herself look good and save them from that one last guy. Which it isn't even likely unless she had been following them and tracking them all that time to that very point, but that goes more to the overall plot holes of the game than character development), And left the infant child AJ to be potentially killed from walkers in the dangerously freezing cold to prove a already known point to another child.
Jane does have the potential of doing great deeds which anybody could do given the chance and choice.. but is it more or less likely that the said person would do what is right? Carver had the ability and potential to do good but didn't and Troy technically has done a good deed by saving Clementine from being killed by a walker one time.. but isn't Troy also more likely to just be that asshole to push Clem down a small cliff severely injuring her while out scavenging or something... for no reason other than she looked at him the wrong way? So given the known history of Troy, he has a history of doing bad deeds, almost as big a bastard as Carver.. so it is likely he'd continue to be a bad dude unless he had a drastic change of heart to do better.
And I'd be willing to take on that bet, however in truth it is probably highly unlikely that Jane or Kenny will not have much significance to season 3 beyond the first episode. Even Clem might be possibly replaced as protagonist which would destroy season 3, if they did do that with Clementine. So these wild speculation theories may or may never be realized in the final confirmed plot.
So yeah I'm just originally saying it would be interesting if they went with what was in character based on the characters past history of n… moreoble deeds and misbehaviors.
Except you're not being fair about it, the way you're assuming that Jane's story would end in a negative way with her resorting to her old ways when it's been proven again and again that she obviously has grown a lot ever since she first argued to leave Sarah behind. You're saying that Kenny's story would end with his "noble deeds" and Jane's story would end with her "misbehaviors" when you're conveniently forgetting that Kenny also has gross misbehaviors (his violent and irrational tendencies which he hasn't gotten past), and Jane has performed noble deeds, and she is getting past her "misbehaviors" as well, moreso than Kenny is (she saves Clem from the ice, she goes to save Sarah on her own if the timer runs out at the observation deck, she lets the family in at Howe… [view original content]
He separated himself from her in an extremely dangerous imminently life threatening situation with no care for Clementine's safety. He did abandon her, canonically too.
I like to imagine that he just sees you as a formidable equal that's on the other side of the coin
He's like the Joker to your Batman
Or like the Neil McCauley to your Vincent Hanna
The more logical choice would be Jane, as Kenny is mentally unstable, but with that being said I hate Jane after the end of season two, and am glad I stuck with Kenny. Kenny actually wants the best for you, and wants to help you, while Jane is not above using you to get what she wants.
I guess if someone put a gun to my head and said I had to pick one or the other I'd have to take the bullet because at least I'd be put out of my misery by how much of a headache both these terrible, shitty characters gave me. THE PAIN IS GONE ♥♥♥
Because as an adult I don't think letting an eleven year old risk her life countless times getting a walkie-talkie (the whole group) is the best idea.
Its a Video game, not real life. No adult would treat Clementine like that. It isn't realistic at all. That is more unbelievable than, the ZA.
I also don't think blaming an eleven year old for someone's death (Bonnie) is the most adult thing to do.
Yeah because adults always are cool under fire,
Telling a child that you don't know who the father is (Rebecca) isn't something children should hear either.
Well the writing was Season two worthy. Do we really need to go there?
I agree, I don't see what harm it did. it sounded more like a cautionary tale.
I guess if your that stupid to be need to told not to eat glass, then yeah. I have drank Aftershock the Alcohol Jane was talking about, i just don't believe it. Its a stupid story.
Hehe, let's just say this place would be very boring if we didn't have opposite opinions. It's just when i hear negative comments about the stache king, naturally i'd want to defend him and disagree with you, no offence but i'm sure you understand and do the same
Or sheriff Steve Geraci to my Rust Chloe.
Nah, he's not all bad I guess. Even though he likes Kenny, we all have faults so I can't rag on him for that I assume.
Kenny. Because Jane is currently dead in my game so... Can't really feel safe around a corpse, can you?
On a side note, even if Jane was alive I'd still say Kenny because I've known him a lot longer, and he'll do everything he can to protect me and AJ. And I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who never really got on the wrong side of him aside from the obligatory Sarita thing, but I can forgive him for that. Since, y'know, I did cut off her arm which caused her death. You can't really expect him not to be angry, and hee forgave me in the long run.
Though, I can see why people would say Jane, since she isn't as unstable as Kenny, but I hate Jane and I don't think I could trust her after she lied about AJ. I didn't trust her to begin with tbh.
I hate them both soo much but for some reason I can't ever force myself not to hate Jane. Telltale tried to make her so sympathetic and dark character and not a good one. Just something about her personality makes me grind my teeth and my hands shake.
Lol when we were kids, my sister used to pick through the cereal box and eat all the lucky charms marshmallows, leaving only the oat cereal behind for me. She was a butt lol. XD
If this was real, I have a weird feeling that the salt-lick would be the most delicious marshmellow of the group
It's funny because you actually can have little saltlick-shaped marshmallows lol, as some marshmallows are sold in little cube shapes. XD
And life-size saltlick marshmallows are extra lethal in smashing people's heads in because they kill people with hypernatremia, diabetes, and head-squishing-with-something-soft all at once lol.
If this was real, I have a weird feeling that the salt-lick would be the most delicious marshmellow of the group
And yeah, when I was a kid, there was always a marshmellow that reigned supreme over the rest, and I always hoped I'd get it the most
Because as an adult I don't think letting an eleven year old risk her life countless times getting a walkie-talkie (the whole group) is the … morebest idea.
Its a Video game, not real life. No adult would treat Clementine like that. It isn't realistic at all. That is more unbelievable than, the ZA.
I also don't think blaming an eleven year old for someone's death (Bonnie) is the most adult thing to do.
Yeah because adults always are cool under fire,
Telling a child that you don't know who the father is (Rebecca) isn't something children should hear either.
Well the writing was Season two worthy. Do we really need to go there?
I agree, I don't see what harm it did. it sounded more like a cautionary tale.
I guess if your that stupid to be need to told not to eat glass, then yeah. I have drank Aftershock the Alcohol Jane was talking about, i just don't believe it. Its a stupid story.
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Jane AND Kenny, honestly I feel safe with either, they're both driven and have shown to care for Clementine and even AJ in numerous occasions, they've both made mistakes but they are only human but regardless of how Clementine treats them, they still do their best to help Clementine survive.
Jane is a survivalist, she has taught Clementine how to survive and have saved the group on multiple occasions and they treat her as though she automatically has to prioritize the group.
Kenny is caring, he truly wants the safety of Clementine and AJ as they are all he has left, he does allot for the group and steps up as the leader when he needs to, doesn't necessarily make him the perfect leader but he's done allot more than some group members, and the group treats his misery as a sign of insanity, they look at him and see him to be aggressive, so he sees himself the way others see him.
Both these characters are really used by others and forced to come to terms with the consequences of all the good they attempt to do, it's quite sad actually. I wished they both lived, Jane X Kenny lol
Still jane ask's clem's what she thinks kenny does't he just gives orders jane lets clem try her hand this way clem can grow with exp.
I couldn't resist. xp
Kenny: (to the Lucky Charms commercial jingle) Ducks, beards, and babies, clovers and saltlicks! Hot pizza and crowbars, and me sinking ships!
Technically, Kenny wouldn't reanimate
He'd just get his fully-dead corpse eaten by the reanimated Jane
If this was real, I have a weird feeling that the salt-lick would be the most delicious marshmellow of the group
And yeah, when I was a kid, there was always a marshmellow that reigned supreme over the rest, and I always hoped I'd get it the most
Eh, maybe it's just the way I personally look at that scene, but I wouldn't say he necessarily abandons her. It's more of Clementine just getting cut off and separated from him and Mike. Given the chaos of that entire sequence, I never really held anyone responsible for 'abandoning' someone else. Sure, maybe you could blame them for not keeping a better eye on the people around them, but no one, not even Kenny, was straight-up like "lol you're on your own motherfucker"
Jane 100%, but I hate them both. I used to be somewhat of a Jane fanboy, but now I realise they're both way too fucking crazy to be anywhere near Clem. If I could change my original choice, I WOULD still go with Jane and let the family in, just because that feels like the least dangerous choice to me and being alone as a kid that age is bordering suicidal.
He separated himself from her in an extremely dangerous imminently life threatening situation with no care for Clementine's safety. He did abandon her, canonically too.
I dont think Jane is crazy. A bit neurotic maybe but who wouldnt be in that situation,
Could be because Kenny is like 15 to 20 years older than Jane and was a parent once. Parents don't usually ask their children what do they think. They indeed do just bark orders like Luke said the same thing. Also Kenny is just hot headed at times like he was in season 1 and in his debates with Lilly. Kenny when he feels he knows what is best for the group or Clementine won't back down and stands his ground. Like with the boat and wellington. Had Kenny just asked Clem what she thought at the gates of Wellington then their might not have been a choice and Clementine would just went back with Kenny so as to not leave him alone and for her not to be alone inside the mysterious Wellington where it MIGHT be safer with only a baby.
Clementine isn't really adult age even though she acts as an adult so she doesn't have full maturity to always be asked what she thinks about everything because she likely wouldn't know much of any better any how. Jane is sort of like that big sister that would let you get away and do a bunch of stuff when mom and dad are gone on vacation like driving the family car which she sort of let Clem do as well in the season finale when she doesn't know how to drive that was a bit funny.
So in short Kenny see's Clem as still just a kid and like most parents view on kids doesn't believe they have the maturity or knowledge on what choices are best and better for them. And its true Clementine does still need some sort of adult supervision in what she does. She isn't all that much older since her season 1 self. That'd be like Lee always asking Clem what she want to do. Like "hey sweetpea do you think you want to go to dangerous Crawford town with us." Or "Do you think that creep on the walkie talkie actually truly has your parents with him?" "Do you want to go with that new weird docter Vernon, instead of keeping on with me and the rest of the group?"
So no it doesn't always work to ask a child what they want and thinks is best for themselves. Now if Clem in the game was at least 17 or 18 or ya know close to Ben's age, then maybe she would know a bit more but even still teenagers can be very immature too and naive depending on the situation..
And even if Jane does let Clem do whatever she wishes. Doesn't mean she won't get the idea of ditching her at the drop of a hat when danger surfaces.
What happens to them after I left them to rot doesn't matter to me
Anyone that would tell a eleven year old they ate glass, to make conversation has problems.
Except you're not being fair about it, the way you're assuming that Jane's story would end in a negative way with her resorting to her old ways when it's been proven again and again that she obviously has grown a lot ever since she first argued to leave Sarah behind. You're saying that Kenny's story would end with his "noble deeds" and Jane's story would end with her "misbehaviors" when you're conveniently forgetting that Kenny also has gross misbehaviors (his violent and irrational tendencies which he hasn't gotten past), and Jane has performed noble deeds, and she is getting past her "misbehaviors" as well, moreso than Kenny is (she saves Clem from the ice, she goes to save Sarah on her own if the timer runs out at the observation deck, she lets the family in at Howe's.) There's no doubt in my mind that you are absolutely wrong that Jane's story will conclude with her abandoning Clem again. I bet you a million Internet cookies that that won't happen in Season 3. You keep track of this comment and if I'm wrong once Season 3 comes around, I'll pay up.
But I won't be wrong.
I don't think Jane had problems. As much as I despised her, she just wanted someone to be with. Someone to replace her sister. Jane is selfish and just wanted Clementine as a person she could have. Oh and Jane telling Clementine about her eating glass doesn't mean she has problems lol.
As a adult you don't tell children that.
Really? Because as an adult I don't think letting an eleven year old risk her life countless times getting a walkie-talkie (the whole group) is the best idea. I also don't think blaming an eleven year old for someone's death (Bonnie) is the most adult thing to do. Telling a child that you don't know who the father is (Rebecca) isn't something children should hear either. Clementine shouldn't be hearing a lot of things. A story about you accidentally eating glass is harmless.
You say this like it's a good thing.
Again, you say this like it's a good thing. Howes got overrun with zombies and going back could've easily resulted in Clem getting killed by said zombies, survivors from Carver's group angry at her for what she and her group did, or bandits that found the place.
She also left Clem and the group because she didn't really believe in Clem. She said that she didn't want to see "it" happen to Clem, by which I guess she means getting killed or dying. But if she really didn't want that to happen to Clem, she would've stuck around and made sure it didn't happen. Instead she leaves because she thinks it's gonna happen anyway, meaning she didn't have as much faith in Clem as she said she did. You can even ask to leave with her and she tells you "no".
When? You mean in one episode when his girlfriend dies, and Clementine can potentially be responsible for it? Kenny doesn't do this in any other episode, and depending on your choices, Kenny can either snap out of it and realize Clem is the only capable one in the group, apologize to Clem, or get even more angry, but of course you'll only mention that third outcome because you want to make Kenny look bad.
Jane does the exact same thing if you get in her way during the fight.
You can leave Sarah behind.
You can reject the nail file and either way it has no baring on the plot, the fire is started without it if you don't take it.
And again, you say this like it's a good thing, but all it does is show Jane's true selfish nature. Whereas Kenny wanted them to stay in the truck where it's safe while he gets fuel, Jane just wants to leave him behind even though Clementine can't even drive. Jane is always trying to convince Clem that abandoning people is a good thing to do whereas Kenny wants others to survive even if it kills him.
We can think whatever we want about Kenny. You telling us "we're objectively wrong" won't change my opinion of him. Which is me thinking he is "bad".
I agree, I dont see what harm it did. it sounded more like a cautionary tale
Kenny. Easy.
I dont think I answered the intial question but I havent trusted Kenny since he refused to help Lee look for Clementine. It still makes me mad that she doesnt know about that. I really believe Jane would have protected Clem with her life.
Well no.. I do not believe I'm calling Kenny Jesus either (well there is comic book character Jesus but back to the main point), he is imperfect as well like all humans, but he has a history of putting himself on the line to save others more often than Jane which would leave me to believe that he'd try a bit harder to protect Clem from danger or sacrifice his life to save Clementine. He's done feats Like saving Christa (season 1 finale) or Ben (whom he really hated season 1 finale), and he took a near death beatdown for Clementine from Carver and sacrifices his own safety for the well being of AJ and Clem (determinately of course season 2 finale).
And I think Kenny probably cares about Clem just as much as his son Duck (not counting the time he was pissed at Lee and didn't want to help search for Clem) and has more experience with children.
However Jane has a history (from what little is known of it) of leaving folks to their death more often, Other than sacrificing her life except for that one time with Clem on the lake, Jane is remembered for pointing out what is wrong with each individual in the group and flaws of each character of the other group members besides herself and she wanted to leave Clem and Rebecca in the horde when they felt distraught about making it out. But helped when she heard the whimpering of Rebecca, and left the likes of Jamie, then Sarah (twice determinately), She left the whole group to face the russians alone (kind of came back to make herself look good and save them from that one last guy. Which it isn't even likely unless she had been following them and tracking them all that time to that very point, but that goes more to the overall plot holes of the game than character development), And left the infant child AJ to be potentially killed from walkers in the dangerously freezing cold to prove a already known point to another child.
Jane does have the potential of doing great deeds which anybody could do given the chance and choice.. but is it more or less likely that the said person would do what is right? Carver had the ability and potential to do good but didn't and Troy technically has done a good deed by saving Clementine from being killed by a walker one time.. but isn't Troy also more likely to just be that asshole to push Clem down a small cliff severely injuring her while out scavenging or something... for no reason other than she looked at him the wrong way? So given the known history of Troy, he has a history of doing bad deeds, almost as big a bastard as Carver.. so it is likely he'd continue to be a bad dude unless he had a drastic change of heart to do better.
And I'd be willing to take on that bet, however in truth it is probably highly unlikely that Jane or Kenny will not have much significance to season 3 beyond the first episode. Even Clem might be possibly replaced as protagonist which would destroy season 3, if they did do that with Clementine. So these wild speculation theories may or may never be realized in the final confirmed plot.
For me it's Kenny. I'm not a Jane fan.
I hope to god Kenny number 2 character or whoever is in season 3 so he can piss you off
Why?
Why are you so vindictive to people who don't want Kenny in even more of the game? And even so, how does that relate to my post?
I like to imagine that he just sees you as a formidable equal that's on the other side of the coin
He's like the Joker to your Batman
Or like the Neil McCauley to your Vincent Hanna
Or sheriff Steve Geraci to my Rust Chloe.
Nah, he's not all bad I guess. Even though he likes Kenny, we all have faults so I can't rag on him for that I assume.
The more logical choice would be Jane, as Kenny is mentally unstable, but with that being said I hate Jane after the end of season two, and am glad I stuck with Kenny. Kenny actually wants the best for you, and wants to help you, while Jane is not above using you to get what she wants.
I guess if someone put a gun to my head and said I had to pick one or the other I'd have to take the bullet because at least I'd be put out of my misery by how much of a headache both these terrible, shitty characters gave me. THE PAIN IS GONE ♥♥♥
Its a Video game, not real life. No adult would treat Clementine like that. It isn't realistic at all. That is more unbelievable than, the ZA.
Yeah because adults always are cool under fire,
Well the writing was Season two worthy. Do we really need to go there?
I guess if your that stupid to be need to told not to eat glass, then yeah. I have drank Aftershock the Alcohol Jane was talking about, i just don't believe it. Its a stupid story.
Hehe, let's just say this place would be very boring if we didn't have opposite opinions. It's just when i hear negative comments about the stache king, naturally i'd want to defend him and disagree with you, no offence but i'm sure you understand and do the same
And i don't hate you, you are actually one of the better, honest TTG forum posters, despite "your" faults
I appreciate that.
And you're the "dan-iest" of any of the forum members. Although, mark my words, I'll turn you over to the good anti-Kenny side yet.
Kenny. Because Jane is currently dead in my game so... Can't really feel safe around a corpse, can you?
On a side note, even if Jane was alive I'd still say Kenny because I've known him a lot longer, and he'll do everything he can to protect me and AJ. And I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who never really got on the wrong side of him aside from the obligatory Sarita thing, but I can forgive him for that. Since, y'know, I did cut off her arm which caused her death. You can't really expect him not to be angry, and hee forgave me in the long run.
Though, I can see why people would say Jane, since she isn't as unstable as Kenny, but I hate Jane and I don't think I could trust her after she lied about AJ. I didn't trust her to begin with tbh.
Haha! If Kenny had saltlicked Lee or had killed Clem, then you can bet your ass i'd have hated him then!
I hate them both soo much but for some reason I can't ever force myself not to hate Jane. Telltale tried to make her so sympathetic and dark character and not a good one. Just something about her personality makes me grind my teeth and my hands shake.
Lol when we were kids, my sister used to pick through the cereal box and eat all the lucky charms marshmallows, leaving only the oat cereal behind for me.
She was a butt lol. XD
It's funny because you actually can have little saltlick-shaped marshmallows lol, as some marshmallows are sold in little cube shapes. XD
And life-size saltlick marshmallows are extra lethal in smashing people's heads in because they kill people with hypernatremia, diabetes, and head-squishing-with-something-soft all at once lol.
One of the worst
So it is not a shitty thing for Bonnie to BLAME a 11 year old, but it is HORRIBLE for Jane to tell a little girl she ate glass?
Seriously?