Christa isn't getting enough credit from either the fans or Telltale as a protector of Clem.
Christa kept Clem alive single-handedly for 16 months. That is incredible. Lee managed a quarter of that time, to give some perspective.
And yet, her role as guardian has been largely ignored by the fans and telltale. Telltale gave her two tiny mentions after her disappearance and then completely forgot about her.
When we talk to Luke about our past in the apocalypse we don't mention her at all, and to Sarah we can say 'lee protected more more than anyone else in the world. I understand that she needed slightly more protecting with Lee than Christa, but Christa protected her for four times as long! She is a big part of who Clem is right now, and telltale is completely focusing on Lee rather than her.
Sorry for the rant, just needed to get that out of my system.
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Well tbh probably at a certain point Clementine could protect herself, but yeah I get what you mean.
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At the very beginning of season 2 she didn't seem much more capable than season 1. She's only much more capable after christa has taken care of her for a year and a half.
Christa actually kinda spoiled Clem during most of that time when you inspect her dialogue in S2E1 with the fire. Lee taught her basically everything she needed to know to survive.
Actually, you are right. Christa protected Clem more than anyone else and she was alone. I think Christa was the new Lee.
Yes.
I don't think Clementine and Christa would have been very close on a personal level at all after what happened to Omid. Christa protected Clementine, therefore fulfilling Lee's wish, but I'm not so convinced she loved her like he did... Perhaps she always placed the blame on Clem for what happened in the restroom on that dire day.![:( :(](https://community.telltale.com/resources/emoji/frowning.png)
I'm not sure, honestly. That's sort of the vibe I got from the way in which they spoke with each other. But I don't disagree with you, that's for sure - I think Christa absolutely needs to make some form of appearance in the finale otherwise that's some pretty poor writing on Telltale's behalf.
Wow, 'spoiled' Clem? Thats extremely harsh![:p :p](https://community.telltale.com/resources/emoji/tongue.png)
You say that, but being with someone for 16 months would always form a close personal connection.
In addition, the way Christa lied to defend clem at the very end shows that she definitely did care for her.
They cared for each other, but had too many painful memories to really be intimate. That was the vibe I got. Christa definitely 'toughened' up Clem, but at the cost of making her a miserable person.
Yep. If you try to run away from the scavengers Christa takes a spear in the leg for Clementine.
when the pimp is in the crib drop it like its hot
We should appreciate Christa more. During the time they were together she taught Clem how to:
But she didn't teach her how to make and sustain a fire, so points off for that.
True. I've no doubts that Christa loved Clem, but I get the impression she never really showed it. That's pretty much the only explanation I can come up with to justify Clem never mentioning her. but meh, I suppose you could say it's bad writing. Clem never seemed particularly bothered by losing Christa either, other than in that one specific moment with Kenny you see in A House Divided.
Anything could have happened in those months to put strain on their relationship... Maybe there were disagreements? Clementine never properly accepted Christa as her new carer and always dwelled on Lee? Interesting to think about for sure.
And judging by her cry of pain following the gunshot in the event that you distract Winston, she gets shot in the leg.
Either way, we'll probably see her with an injured leg. I even wonder if she's the "sick sister" that Arvo was talking about...
Christa is Lee 2.0
I'm pretty sure Arvo's sister is Maude, the blonde woman. But that's interesting, I never heard her cry out.
We would give Christa credit if we knew how exactly hard it was.
Did Christa go through a horde of zombies with Clementine ? Nope, when they do this in s2 Clementine only mentions having doing it with Lee back then.
I even doubt they encountered that many zombies since Clementine learned so many new things regarding close-combat fight with walkers from Jane. She was not that much more experienced at beginning of s2 than what she was at the end of s1.
When with Christa they probably kept low profile and avoided any confrontation or risky situations to get stuff, hence their starving and desperate situation at the campfire.
Not that I blame Christa. Making your way through places where you risk encountering zombies is something you do when with a larger group, with weapons, of if you're on your own and know hot to sneak in like Jane. Not with a child.
Christa probably was very concerned with Clementine's safety (and her own baby's while she had it) and probably played hide and seek all this time, fled at the first sight of walkers, etc...
Must have been miserable moments. So they had it very rough, but Christa probably never took as many risks as Lee did.
Maude may be a drug addict going through withdrawal, but I was inclined to believe that if Arvo did indeed have a sister, she would be safe with the other Russians in the woods. Interestingly enough, if you ask Arvo about his sister he replies "Not so good..."
After replaying the season this week, I was just thinking this. She's brushed aside and dropped so quickly, it makes me wonder why they kept her alive at all, much less gave her this significant history with Clem. It's a real shame, I think the character deserved a lot more than that, and I would've much rather had her continue on in the season than have Kenny reappear, tbh.
And she taught Clem how to stitch up the wounds.
I blame the writer of Amid The Ruins for forgetting Christa's existence. The token mention of Lee in the museum seems to conveniently ignore the fact that Omid was a Civil War fanatic, and the only way I can try to justify Clem not knowing anything about helping Rebecca give birth is that she's repressed the memory/Christa left her alone and had the stillborn baby by herself.
I just don't really care for her character that much.
Lee was bit when he went through the horde of zombies. Plus we don't know what happend in the 16 month time-skip. I don't think anyone can take risks anymore because anything can happen.
maybe they wanted to aim to develop new characters instead of focusing on the time skip?
If Arvo was telling the truth about his sister, it would make no sense for her to be with them at the shootout because she is sick. They probably have a camp back in the woods with more people.
That, or he does have a sister but she isn't sick, and in that case she could be Maud.
Or he's completely lying and has no sister at all.
I think those are the only options.
Look, I don't say Christa had it easy, far from it, but I disagree with people saying she was the new Lee. You just can't compare.
You know what, I feel jealous. Because of that timeskip bullshoot. Lee and Clem spend hardly 4 months together where as Clem and Christa spend 2 years together (8 months with Omid and Christa, 16 months with only Christa) That event as a player proves that all I've done for Clem as Lee is pointless. Don't deny it. It is pointless now. I asked Gavin Hammon the same question and he said;
But I don't know. Thanks Telltale for making a character we barely knew for 2 days spending more time with Clem than anyone EVEN more than the main character himself. Like; why didn't they let us to play as Christa in S1 if she's gonna spend so much time with Clem?
I always had the feeling Clementine was really miserable around Christa. After Omid's death and her (possible) miscarriage, I don't think the two of them talked a lot.
It's pretty much impossible to be spoiled during the ZA.
Nah no prob. Everyone got his opinion. It just sounded really weird![:D :D](https://community.telltale.com/resources/emoji/lol.png)
Take an upvote for voicing and edgy opinion.
Gavin Hammon makes a very solid point. Lee showered Clementine with love and advice on survival during their short time together, whereas it seems Christa only bothered with the latter.
Yeah, you're right. I went full shitbird there. Sorry...
Look, I don't know. A lot of people are assuming she is so I'm going with it. You're probably right, but as of now you can't be certain. It's not realistic given what we know, but the group suddenly have baby formula isn't realistic either. Regardless, that's getting a bit off topic. I highly doubt Christa would join the Russians.
I think Christa was more cold toward Clementine not because she didn't care for her at all, but because she lost Omid and presumably her baby. Christa has been through some traumatic events and she seems sort of broken (for lack of a better word...) but I don't know if she specifically blames Clementine for what happened or resents her in some way. It is certainly possible.
Maybe there will be a DLC on the timeskip or something like the 400 Days game. (What does DLC even stand for? .-. )
And the difference between Lee and Christa is that Lee was the first caretaker Clementine had in the apocalypse and he taught her the basic stuff when she knew practically nothing. (Like keeping her hair short and how to shoot a gun. Chuck told Lee to teach her that stuff but still.) Christa definitely deserves some recognition but Clementine was very vulnerable when Lee had her, and with Christa she was already somewhat capable. Christa did teach her a lot of survival stuff too though, for example if Clem never learned to sew up her arm from Christa she could have died in the shed.
Sorry, but no one will ever replace what Lee was to clem. Accept it. It honestly didnt seem like christa and clem had a close relationship after omids death anyways
By spoiled I mean, of course, she looked after Clementine too much and seem like she didn't show her new survival skills other than basic instincts of surviving and gathering food/drink. Clementine didn't want to keep that fire lit and kinda wanted Christa to handle it and handle her.
It's only until she is alone that she realizes she needs to kick it into high gear and really learn how to survive.
I'll give you an explanation as to why that is, we didn't see any of it. lol